View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
SexiCal
02-09-2014, 06:24 PM
^^^That is exactly what they are trying to do. Get a rise out of you or hope that you will be desperate enough to prove to them that you are not "boring".
MissQuirk
02-09-2014, 08:08 PM
What I actually said was "then leave.." and he did. so it worked out, lol.
minniesoporno
02-10-2014, 01:46 AM
So if you have read the model manual from streamate clearly says no nudity below the belt but OMG the amount of girls that break that rules just really boils me.
GlamourRouge
02-10-2014, 02:06 AM
So if you have read the model manual from streamate clearly says no nudity below the belt but OMG the amount of girls that break that rules just really boils me.
...In general? I'm sure every girl on the entire site has gotten nude before below-the-belt...
But i don't wear belts ;p hehe
I'm sure Minniesporno you mean free chat just couldn't help myself with the cheesy joke. in a more serious tone it really irks me too.
minniesoporno
02-10-2014, 02:11 AM
it clear says n the streamate rules no nudity below the belt then then there are huge amount of girls just giving it away. so I sent streamate a few screen shots and ask them do they really want this happening and how come they are doing nothing about it plus why have it in your rules when you just sit back and have it happen.
GlamourRouge
02-10-2014, 02:16 AM
it clear says n the streamate rules no nudity below the belt then then there are huge amount of girls just giving it away. so I sent streamate a few screen shots and ask them do they really want this happening and how come they are doing nothing about it plus why have it in your rules when you just sit back and have it happen.
But don't most girls do toy shows? Why would they have that rule...? This is the first time I have heard of that rule.
Do you mean in free chat? In free chat, Streamate does not enforce anything really, but that is nothing new. They aren't on MFC's level though.
can't wait to hear their response to that. if they even give one. support is such a crap shoot.
jessajames
02-10-2014, 03:05 AM
SM does enforce no pussy or vagina or kitty or whateverthefuck you want to call it show in free chat. If you get caught you will be suspended. and rightly so.
jessajames
02-10-2014, 03:08 AM
sorry if that was abit harsh let me explain. the more you show for free the more they expect and the more they expect the less EVERYONE including yourself will make.
Staples
02-10-2014, 03:13 AM
I know plenty of girls who have been given suspensions for below the belt nudity in free chat. It's just a matter of them getting caught.
BritishBecky
02-10-2014, 03:20 AM
Is part of what you are seeing the $0 gold shows? If you are logged in you can see the entirety of those shows as if they were in free chat, though free chatters can't see it and the rule is not infringed. Confusing!
Sunnylexie
02-10-2014, 04:59 AM
THere is a difference between a $0 gold show and showing it in free chat. Once you check the "explicit content" box in a $0 gold show, it becomes invisible to the free/guest chat viewers. Technically it's free, but you need to have your credit card on file to enter and view it. Once the model is in such a show, it looks like she's doing a regular goldshow, so noone can tell she's giving it away for free before getting into the paid chat (at least from what I know). So, it isn't the same.
Speaking of nudity in free chat: the fact that it's easy to get away with something doesn't mean it's ok to do it. It's against the minor protection laws and against the professional ethics.
BritishBecky
02-10-2014, 06:07 AM
^No it doesn't look like a regular gold show to people who are signed in, it looks like free chat. You are right that free guys can't view it. But, if you are signed in then you can see the show as soon as you enter the room, no need to click anything else at all. You don't have to go into 'paid chat', just enter the room from the main page like you would normally go in to free chat.
So, my question was really just wondering if some of this is being able to see shows when logged in to members accounts, rather than below the belt nudity in actual free chat (ie the type you are talking about where the free guys can see)
TheBrownFox
02-10-2014, 10:41 AM
So these free chat members who never tip...I wonder if they're the same people who dine in at restaurants and don't tip their server.....
Or if they're only like this with us cam girls because they refuse to "pay for pussy."
Hmmm.
kortneykay
02-10-2014, 10:49 AM
It sucks when browsing and you notice girls breaking the rules but the best thing to do is to focus on your own room. If guys bring up other models and what they do, remind them that you run your room differently (by the rules). They are either going to buy from you, or not. I see a lot of things when I occasionally browse rooms but I remind myself that it's none of my business what others do in their rooms, and that what they do in their said rooms doesn't have any bearing on me and my room.
I understand that it pisses a lot of people off, (if you let it) but what is more annoying to a lot of us is all of the brownosing and tattletelling. Unless it's mind blowingly illegal (like a child being exposed to lascivious acts, or someone making crack cocaine in their kitchens during a GS), is all the print screening necessary? I guess I just don't understand how so many models have time to stalk rooms, print screen, and run back to SM when they could be banking in their own rooms. Is it jealously, or are you you afraid that what they do will harm your paycheck...eventually? The reason I ask is because I still make great money and the sky has yet to fall on me on SM because some other model is showing her cooter in free chat. Maybe that's just me though.
IvyRose
02-10-2014, 10:59 AM
The only thing you can do, when you see it is to make a screenshot and send it to support (with a picture of the below belt nudity and her name stated at her chatroom clearly in your screenshot). Without a screenshot (proof) they dont do a thing.
I have reported some girls, because it annoys me too, especially when there is a friggin stilshot of a pussy as profile picture. Support mailed me back they are "going to investigate it and take measurements".
Dont know if they really take action though, bec I reported the same girl allready for 6 times I think, she it always breaking the rule, and she is still there on page 1.
Oh well they are only hurting there own income. I dont see her that much last weeks, and she fails to start up her goldshows too the last couple of times I was checking in. Thats what you get from showing everything! Guys will adventually find them cheap, or they are tired of seeying the same old over and over again.
Best thing is though, to not even look at it since it will only give you negative energy/fibe (at least it does that with me).
kortneykay
02-10-2014, 11:05 AM
Oh well they are only hurting there own income. I dont see her that much last weeks, and she fails to start up her goldshows too the last couple of times I was checking in. Thats what you get from showing everything! Guys will adventually find them cheap, or they are tired of seeying the same old over and over again.
Best thing is though, to not even look at it since it will only give you a negative energy.
I don't agree. If they were only hurting themselves, why did it bother you enough to go tell SM? Is it because you feel they are hurting your earnings? Also, you don't know anything about her income so you don't know if it's suffering or not. Guys like free shit, and just because someone couldn't start a GS doesn't mean she isn't doing well, or that she never starts them. To each their own I suppose.
Holly_xoxo
02-10-2014, 12:11 PM
It's really annoying me when guy's come in to my room, with no intention of spending money. They're just bored and figure you'll talk to them and help them kill time. There's a man that went private with me twice back in March of 2013 and has never done it again since but he'll pop in my room when bored or he'll pop in and out. My guess is he's hovering from outside, then accidentally clicks and gets put in my room, then jumps out when he realizes what happened.
Anyway, today he came in and I just told him straight out (but not abrasive) that it's a bit rude that he doesn't at least tip when he comes in and my room isn't where you go if you're just bored and want to talk about your day. He said he was sorry and then left.
This is one of the times when I wish I had more traffic because a lot of men can tell that there's isn't many in there so they expect you to talk with them. At least if there was more, my conversations would be spread out.
Don't get me wrong, I"m friendly, I don't jump down people's throats if they don't spend money on me but if you're coming in just to kill time, then you better be really entertaining for me. Not the other way around.
IvyRose
02-10-2014, 12:30 PM
Kortney you made a point, I dont know about her income thats for sure. =)
I did reported her, not because I thought it would hurt my money, but because I think when there are rules, everyone should follow them... and it angrivates me that not eveyone is treated the same.
My own experiences do let me know, in my case, more skin is less money:
when I wear only a bra I make most of the time less, than when I am wearing a top above it and a boxer on top of my thong
when I dance around I make less, I should just sit on my butt and wiat patiently
showing all my body makes me less than when I show only my face and torso (just beneath breast or party stomach and little bit of hips)
So for me, showing more means less money. hell they can allready cum when we are doing nothing at all XD, but the guys who are seeking for that will keep seeking and get their fix with an girl who is showing to much or in free vids or anywhere else on the net. The begging part is hard sometimes, and it sucks that they think veery girl will show them x for $ in free chat.. I dont even show anything in free chat- even not for tips. Got tipped 100 gold once in free chat, but didnt flashed below belt, bec it was rude as hell that the guy just assumed I would do that without asking first, and bec I respect rules and the thought behind the rules.
I have been watching top girls to learn, and I do notice that over time, there prices tend to get lower and lower, and the videos get more and more. They have to sell more for less to get their buyers.
In my own experience; when I started goldshow I could get away with 20$ buy ins, in a 8min countdown for a 15 min show. When I do them now people complain like hell and I would probally not make it (maybe it has to do with the 0gold buy ins too), but they tend to ask for a cheaper show everytime I repeat, so I dont do goldshows at all at this point.
Lets hope that bec of the girls giving it away for free, lets the guys keep there couple of dollars in their pockets for us! ;)
I honestly dont think they keep the high spenders away
I have not seen streamate in the good old days before goldshows, I am used to cheapos beggars and whiners, and i still make money even though girls are showing their moneymakers. Its to bad it has to be this way, but we have to work with what we got. =)
minniesoporno
02-10-2014, 03:21 PM
SM does enforce no pussy or vagina or kitty or whateverthefuck you want to call it show in free chat. If you get caught you will be suspended. and rightly so.
I've sent them several screen shots of girls who are naked or wearing no underwear in free chat, and I have this feeling its from the same cam studio in one of those countries. because everyday there is a new girl doing it.
Reason why I do it it's because I feel Iam in a small niche being a black perform and Iam old school don't give away the milk for free. Plus many years ago when I started out someone reported and got my account shut down for a week when sites actually followed what they say their rules are.
Spinnerette
02-10-2014, 04:15 PM
Free chat pisses me off. Pretending that I'm bubbly when I'm not (I'm really not) as part of the free chat hustle pisses me off. I'm going back behind the curtain.
Via Flaminia
02-10-2014, 10:18 PM
Is this midterm exam week? lol I'm seriously wondering because traffic dropped off a cliff today and tonight :(
eta: $2 in 4 hours of work. Jaw-dropping-want-to-quit-now-fml. Time for beauty sleep. Tomorrow is a new, better day.
Fitandpretty
02-11-2014, 05:45 AM
I don't understand why people think they need to be the Camgirl police. I knew a girl who was suspended because she had her dog in view for like 5 seconds.
Yes! If people would focus on their own rooms and worry about themselves then maybe they can make more money. I never care about what other girls are doing because I got my own kids to worry about lol.
Marina Starr
02-11-2014, 06:08 AM
It is because it somehow makes them feel less inadequate? A sense of "power"?
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I don't understand why people think they need to be the Camgirl police. I knew a girl who was suspended because she had her dog in view for like 5 seconds.
kortneykay
02-11-2014, 10:52 AM
Also, being black and in porn is NOT a small niche anymore. I'm looking on SM right now and see 123 other girls who look just like you and myself. I'm pretty sure they busted that "niche" wide open, lol.
anonymous camgirl
02-11-2014, 11:23 AM
IE 11 is completely useless for camming!! .. it keeps reloading the damn page.. I gave up on it and using firefox to cam til my camming computer comes back from repair land!! I made sure to tell her .. please put IE9 back on there that computer doesn't like 10 nor 11..haha cuz it doesn't .. I tried one time to upgrade to 10 and had to many problems maybe cuz it's a win7
Sabihah
02-11-2014, 11:35 AM
I just had a guy with only a couple mutual friends add me on Facebook (my real account), and immediately start off on some really boring flirting. "Let me ask you fifty bajillion questions about yourself so you think I care" style.
It's so funny how camming changes your perspective. Now I'm like "Wait, how much am I getting paid to put up with you? Zero dollars? YEAH NO."
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SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
02-11-2014, 12:58 PM
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg gg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is all.
Holly_xoxo
02-11-2014, 01:06 PM
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg gg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is all.
I had a few guys coming in my room yesterday asking for free shit and when I said no, they told me about not caring because they can get free pussy on there now...Lol...fuckkkkkk
On another note of what pisses me off. I was seeing how busy SM was earlier and noticed a few ladies doing g/g shows and the guys were all rating and going on about one being hotter than the other....etc....that annoys me so badly when they do that. Let's put them in a group of men to rate and compare them. So rude!!
minniesoporno
02-11-2014, 02:09 PM
What really annoys me is people thinking because I am a mod I have power I don't have shit. I get annoying emails called mod reports that honestly don't really warrant anything to be moderated. they gave me access to one small section on this site other work. Not a thing is happening in that section.
I am tired of the PMs I get about site issues because I can't do anything about it. IF you have an issue with your account or username or whatever I can not do anything about it.
I post in camming connection because I need access to info, resources and maybe support from there because I am trying to cam regularly. as for me being "cam model police" sites need to stick with their damn rules why have them if they aren't going to enforce them. the only reason they got those emails from me about girls breaking the rules it's because they aren't doing their job. Camming isn't what it use to be and girls giving it away for free are really ruining it for others. Each and everytime some guy comes in my room claimining XYZ is doing that why can't I, it actually makes my work harder.
I should be happy it's my birthday today - no don't send me birthday wishes I only want them from family and true friends. but honestly this site starting to become a drain in more ways then one.
Incantatious
02-11-2014, 02:22 PM
What really annoys me is people thinking because I am a mod I have power I don't have shit. I get annoying emails called mod reports that honestly don't really warrant anything to be moderated. they gave me access to one small section on this site other work. Not a thing is happening in that section.
I am tired of the PMs I get about site issues because I can't do anything about it. IF you have an issue with your account or username or whatever I can not do anything about it.
Can't you just step down from this "role" if you aren't even really a fully-fledged mod and it's irritating you?
Don't blame regular members like us for assuming you have mod powers if you have that title. We rely on moderators to help keep this place up to standard. It's not at all unreasonable for members here to assume you have mod powers if you have the word "Moderator" right underneath your username.
Ms.Lacey
02-11-2014, 02:29 PM
Minni why not just um stay in your section if we are draining... Maybe search and find the answers you need... Thank the girls that help you... Stop being a bitch to those that help you...
You came here for help and figured girls wouldn't jump on your threads which is very bizarre.
kortneykay
02-11-2014, 02:45 PM
^^^^Minnie, if you are a mod, and you've just admitted that you can't do everything, why do you think SM has that same power? Just like in real life, people are always going to break the rules. There are life rules enforced daily like drinking and driving, indecent exposure, robbery, dealing and consuming drugs, etc. We all know it's illegal to do those things (in most places) but people still do them no matter how many taxes working people pay to keep people locked up. People will always break the rules so why not just worry about yourself, instead of what so and so is doing in their rooms? SM is in the business of making money, not patrolling rooms.
I don't mean to offend but since I've been on SW (2 years) all of your camming posts seem to talk about the good old days and how you're getting back into camming, and how it's not what it was. Since you are a veteran, you should know the ropes as well as the ups and downs of the industry. I understand that camming isn't the way it was, but nothing is the way it was, and nothing ever stays the same. You need to pull out everything you can and bring it to the table instead of worrying about what other models are doing. Honestly, camming can only be ruined for you if you let it. There are several sites out there, including free video sites with nudity and free cam sites yet I, and many others don't have any problems with their earnings and earning potential.
By the tone I'm getting from you (and always have), you seem really sour. Your insecurities are most likely causing you to act/feel this way, and it's probably messing with your earnings as well. It boggles my mind that you want SM to do their job, yet here you are complaining about modding here (which I'm guessing you volunteered to do) and aren't "doing your job" on cam. Instead, you're bitching and reporting other models who are doing their jobs, which is staying in their rooms and making money for themselves. If you don't want to help SW then drop your modding position. No one is holding a gun to your head to do it, and I suppose your "true" friends could use your time since you seem to have so much of it.
minniesoporno
02-11-2014, 02:50 PM
i've sent many messages about not being a mod, it hasn't happened. can a person vent without people commenting on it.
kortneykay
02-11-2014, 02:54 PM
^^^ Not when you're disrespecting other models you can't. So far, I've gotten these things from your post which are highly offensive.
1. You don't like modding here anymore and the site, and people here are draining you.
2. You mention it's your birthday, but only want "true" friends to remind you that they are glad you were born. Really?
All I can say is: BYEEEE!!!! Good luck, and good riddance!
Fitandpretty
02-11-2014, 02:54 PM
Minnie the money is there no matter how many chicks are showing the puss for free. Sometimes you just gotta have a better attitude and step your game up. Just a thought
minniesoporno
02-11-2014, 02:58 PM
^^^ Not when you're disrespecting other models you can't.
I never said this before but I am going to say it now. I really don't care about other models feelings or this whole BS online community crap. I've been on this site long enough where I just don't give a rat's ass anymore.
and as for my attitude it is just fine at the end of the day no one really cares what other people are doing. they just want to hear them selves talk and give uninvited advice.
CurvyWinona
02-11-2014, 02:59 PM
I never said this before but I am going to say it now. I really don't care about other models feelings or this whole BS online community crap. I've been on this site long enough where I just don't give a rat's ass anymore.
and as for my attitude it is just fine at the end of the day no one really cares what other people are doing. they just want to hear them selves talk and give uninvited advice.
Some things like this should keep to themselves. =/ Sucks that you feel that way and maybe it is time for a time out from the internet and to cool off.
kortneykay
02-11-2014, 03:02 PM
I never said this before but I am going to say it now. I really don't care about other models feelings or this whole BS online community crap. I've been on this site long enough where I just don't give a rat's ass anymore.
and as for my attitude it is just fine at the end of the day no one really cares what other people are doing. they just want to hear them selves talk and give uninvited advice.
What I said was really mean. I'm sorry that you feel the way you do, good luck.
Fitandpretty
02-11-2014, 03:03 PM
Why post if you don't want advice? Don't say bitchy things if you don't want backlash.
SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
02-11-2014, 04:31 PM
On another note of what pisses me off. I was seeing how busy SM was earlier and noticed a few ladies doing g/g shows and the guys were all rating and going on about one being hotter than the other....etc....that annoys me so badly when they do that. Let's put them in a group of men to rate and compare them. So rude!!
I know, like any of them could get either girl !! lol but yes when there is more than one woman in a room, camming or otherwise, they automatically feel the need to have a favorite. Or make one better than the other.
caramelcraze
02-11-2014, 06:20 PM
Ok, I have some major venting to do!
A. mygirlfund hasn't approved me yet and it's been days. sent them an email yesterday and still haven't heard back from them.
B. Someone has been spamming my cb feed with lots of racial slurs and general buttmunching when i'm on and I'm about to go nuts. I wish when you blocked someone it was their IP address, not just their username.
C. The place I want to get my implants is dragging ass on whether or not they accept MFI money. So I'm DOA right now >:(
D. A lot of top girls on CB are getting away with trading things for amazon gc, which you aren't allowed to do. I probably wouldn't care too much, but I see them ban newer members for doing the same. The girls with 30k+ followers seem to be immune to this rule though. I know they don't want to lose $ as a company, but if you have a rule, you should really enforce it with everyone, not just the new cammers.
TheBrownFox
02-11-2014, 07:10 PM
@Minnie: In the 3+ years I've been on SW I've never seen a moderator give off such a negative vibe, and bite people's heads off like this. In the past couple of days I've seen this in a few different threads. I'm sorry that your SW mood is listed as 'lonely', and that you find this place so draining, and don't even want us to wish you a happy birthday. You might need a break from the forum and/or camming? I don't know. Whatever you're going through...I hope it resolves itself soon. Good luck.
JaneBurgess
02-11-2014, 10:06 PM
I don't see why they care if an animal is on cam in the background. Sometimes animals get in your room and run by your camera. It's not like you were doing show or anything horrible with them.
I don't understand why people think they need to be the Camgirl police. I knew a girl who was suspended because she had her dog in view for like 5 seconds.
JaneBurgess
02-11-2014, 10:15 PM
Then don't post on here. You have had that attitude for years and you know damn well it pisses people off. They told you that on other adult forums and you still went on there and basically insulted people.
At the end of the day people do care about others and we try to support each other on here. We may not always agree, but we sure as hell don't go out of our way to be a dick to each other. Honestly this industry may not be for you anymore and there is nothing wrong with that. Find something that makes you happy.
I never said this before but I am going to say it now. I really don't care about other models feelings or this whole BS online community crap. I've been on this site long enough where I just don't give a rat's ass anymore.
and as for my attitude it is just fine at the end of the day no one really cares what other people are doing. they just want to hear them selves talk and give uninvited advice.
Procrasturbator
02-11-2014, 11:37 PM
Whyyyy do I take breaks? Why?
OK, I know why, I'm tired and hungry and it gets slow. But then I never get back on. Blech. I'm $15 away from goal, too, and I told a guy (in pvt) that I'd be on around this time... but... nope.
Spinnerette
02-11-2014, 11:44 PM
Sites glitches, those piss me off. First I couldn't get my webcam video to connect via my preferred browser for them (audio showed up as an option just fine). And then on top of that, I could have blown past my high goal for the evening quite easily if the site hadn't decided to DISCONNECT ME in the middle of a private show that was pushing the 20 minute mark. That guy was such a sweetheart too. :( Hope I run into him again tomorrow so I can apologize even though it wasn't my fault.
EbonyAlana
02-12-2014, 12:17 PM
two hours on sm and not one prvt :( not sure whats going on. I need to make my 500 goal this week and so far im only at 30. I try to log back on in a few. Is it because it's Wednesday?
caymarie2140
02-12-2014, 12:39 PM
Have a full room and no one is saying a thing! WTF....boring