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mariegolden
07-01-2013, 03:03 PM
Me too!
PrissyDolls
08-03-2013, 11:01 AM
I wonder if some females will take this into consideration and learn from it but god knows im blessed and I THANK him!!! Thanking you too....You have excellent thoughts..;-D
91ShadesofGrey
08-04-2013, 09:55 PM
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willowp
09-19-2013, 02:11 PM
exactly what i needed! you guys are fantastic :) :) :)
VeronicaLane
10-04-2013, 07:00 PM
I use a different formula for webcamming. what formula? mind pm-ing me?
minniesoporno
04-26-2014, 09:26 PM
1) Security Must be a Priority
You must value your safety and freedom above the incremental income of seeing another client who cannot comply to your screening process. The added costs of making a screening mistake are never worth the sum total of the lost incremental income from one client. Further, now more than ever, ladies must leverage technology and other systems to protect their true identities, and to take advantage of anonymity whenever and wherever possible.
2) You are Special & Unique
You and all your many qualities combine to make you truly unique. Every man understands this when asked what turns him on or what attracts him most, some are leg guys, others are boob men, and others prefer blondes. But it doesn't stop there, most have a combination of attributes that draw them more-so than others. Do not try to be all things to all men, if you try, you will at best be mediocre to most. Instead, look for those who resonate with the qualities that make you unique. These men will feed your self confidence, and in turn fuel the passions that make you a better you.
3) There is NO Competition - Just Variety
In addition to your being a unique and special creature, do not fall into the trap of evaluating other providers as your "competition". While some men will argue vehemently in opposition to reduce what makes you special as an abundant commodity. It's ok. Just remember, most men have never been able to master their libido as they thrive on variety.
You do not "own" your clients, and never believe a client that says he only sees you - instead, see your fellow provider as sisters and "co-workers", thrive to build them up, create value for the community and karma will take care of the rest.
4) There is an Abundance of Ready, Willing Potential Clients
Be careful not to get sucked into a scarcity mentality. Scarcity relies on fear, lack and desperation. It feeds aggressive and often foolish competitive tactics that create more danger, more fear and in the end, never pay off with the success that was coveted.
The truth is: There is an abundance of potential business just waiting for you. In our Blog (http://flirtywife.com/blog--blo--understanding-the-hobby-market-size-2806.phtml?module_id=82982#82982)*, we reveal the sources along with the math & statistics that demonstrate this simple fact:
There are fewer than 900 providers here in Phoenix just waiting to entertain 79,000+ employed, generous, adult gentlemen creating a minimum annual income of over $38,000.
The good news is that this is an estimated "bare-minimum". If you are not feeling success far and above this minimum then it might be time for you to consider some radical alternatives. We will cover some of these ideas in our boot-camp series and in our online community.
5) Listen to Your Clients - But Discern What They are REALLY Saying
Unless you have experience in conducting market research and have assembled balanced, representative focus groups, designed surveys and have established empirical controls to yield accurate results, you must always take your client's feedback with a massive grain of salt - no matter how sincere and how honest it appears on the surface.
Example: Some men will contact you, feed your ego a little, and develop some chemistry with you. He may then tell you he saw someone else who offers X or whose rates were only Y, and then ask if you would you match them. Bottom line, this man called you FIRST, he WANTS YOU! Not the other girl (which might not even exist). Sure, if you stick to your guns, you might miss out, but if you use these and other suggestions, you can be assured someone else will see you and pay your rates.
6) Eliminate Desperation and Addiction
Permitting these 2 conditions any foothold in your life will severely compromise your ability to do any of the items on this page effectively. Please seek out help from qualified professionals, and strive to live beneath your financial means. To enjoy success means to stop playing the role of a victim and taking charge and control over your life NOW. It's never too late to take your life back, and go somewhere positive with it.
7) You are the Most Valuable Asset in Your Business
As with any asset, you must do everything to protect it, care for and nurture it. Whether you adopt a new fitness regimen, or change your diet. Remember you need to feed all the facets of yourself, your intellect, your spirit, your soul. Strive to learn something new or rediscover a hidden talent. Keep improving yourself as doing so improves the "asset" of you.
8 ) Run Your Business as a Business - Not a Job
Even if you escort part-time, you must realize that you are now a business owner and to enjoy maximum success, you'll need to operate as a business. You should understand your costs, your investments, your time and your revenues. When you do, you'll see it gets easier to make decisions about your business that result in more success within your business.
9) Surround Yourself With Other Successful People
Many top success coaches & speakers suggest that your income will be the average of the income of the top 5 people you spend most of your time with. While we don't necessarily believe this to be 100% true, we do know that when you surround yourself with other successful people you instinctively elevate your "game". Surrounding yourself with other successful people creates an environment where you are more apt to find answers and solutions that could positively impact your success as a business owner.
10) Help Others
Steven Covey has implied that the best way to actually learn something is to teach it. Call it Karma, positive energy or just putting your learning to practice. We know this business can be unusually isolated and lonely - thus we cannot stress how important this principal is, and how powerful it is to influence your success, your happiness and your future as an independent woman.
We have applied these principals to our business since our beginning back in 2008.
In doing so, we've seen record earnings regularly and consistently nearly every month, and every year. We've enjoyed many incredible adventures, and have made some pretty awesome friendships along the way.
We have always made a conscious effort to be givers, teachers and helpers to anyone who needs it.
Moving forward we plan to put more and more effort into creating tools, and opportunities to share with those who choose this profession and are looking to enrich themselves in the process.
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cbrandy
04-26-2014, 10:12 PM
You always have such great advice and insight-thanks so much for all you do for us on this forum!;D
Moxxy Minx
04-27-2014, 07:03 AM
Let me put that formula in action. How much do I want to make in a year? Let's say $1,000,000? How many guys do I wanna meet per week for say 2 hours each. Hmmm, each working day one...so 5 per week...so 5x48 per year if I take 4 weeks off. So my hourly rate using the formula is $1,000,000/(2x5x48 hours)=$2,083. I will make this my rate now and I immediately make $1 million a year, right? NOPE, because it is not that easy with supply and demand. Setting a desired rate is one thing, getting sufficiently booked with that rate another thing. The flaw in that formula is that the number of hours per year depends on the rate and that means you cannot independently choose the desired value for both rate and hours your work.
minniesoporno
04-27-2014, 09:54 AM
The rate calculator is a guideline in helping you decide in the type of escort you want to price yourself as then it gives you an idea of the type of clients you want to attract, If you are priced above $300 then creative planning and advertising is more important to keep your earning goals on track which also goes for any price point you are at.
dixievista
05-01-2014, 03:15 PM
Excellent advice!!!!
monroe2go
05-05-2014, 04:19 PM
Great advice for any girl. I'm reading it as a dancer and I take it all to heart. Mahalo for the lovely post.
palebluedot
05-11-2014, 07:15 PM
This is great! #3 definitely rings true to me -- there is absolutely no one ideal and no one provider can possibly fulfill every client's interests. Love it.
SerenaBH
05-21-2014, 07:40 AM
Love that! Very clear and very true in my experience also. Wish I knew you guys when I first started!
abarrett
07-27-2014, 05:21 PM
Link is dead.
Also, I'm pretty sure Amanda Brooks really wants people to buy her books - it's like $20 for both of them via Kindle, no real excuse for not doing it.
miss1dancypants
07-14-2015, 11:02 PM
Question to independent escorts that do outcalls--do you take your own car? If not, what do you do? I'd be worried about someone taking down my plate info. Renting a car for a day, not sure if that seems like a feasible option every time.
Elektra Luxx
07-16-2015, 12:19 PM
Question to independent escorts that do outcalls--do you take your own car? If not, what do you do? I'd be worried about someone taking down my plate info. Renting a car for a day, not sure if that seems like a feasible option every time.
I take my own car because my clients are outcall regulars and are usually at night. Renting cars are fairly cheap, but the time to pick it and return it is a hassle.
BTW, make your out calls worth your while and make them 2 hour minimum if you can get away with it. You have to consider mileage and travel time. Just adding my 2 cents worth.
Guineverevanpierre
08-09-2015, 07:06 PM
"These men are not your friends, no matter how sweet and kind they may be!!"
Loved this one especially bc I know many girls who hire their clients as lawyers or don't set their boundaries between work and private life strong enough.
I always found them pretty naive and feel very uncomfortable going to a doctor who was my client. I have to say, it happened to me twice that I lost it and did the same, mainly because I saw other girls doing it and thought I might be too paranoid.
Both times didn't went well. Those guys will never see your whole potential, you will always be kind of damaged gut to them, even if it's unconscious.
Well, in many ways I think men never see the whole potential of a woman anyway….there are some but very few :-))))) Oh Goood I'm becoming really negative towards men.
I AM SURE IT'S THE JOBBBB LOLOLOL.
That's what a man would say now.
suzi_suzi
08-28-2015, 07:01 AM
I have an emergency question. My agency asked me to give them my ID so they can advertise for me on EROS. Is it ok?
Guineverevanpierre
08-28-2015, 09:37 AM
i wouldn't do that
suzi_suzi
08-28-2015, 09:42 AM
i wouldn't do that
Hi ! does that website request to everyone one? Do you know any website will help to marketing in the industry? I sent you an email btw ;)
annietrix
11-20-2015, 12:00 AM
Thanks for the useful information!!! :):)
Daisy1970
12-06-2015, 10:56 AM
I see many escorts advertise as no men under a certain age, I am an older woman and I believe there is a market for the MILF, role play stuff with older women - younger men. I also live in an area with a large population of younger men.
Can someone give me insight on the negativity with the younger population?
Starting out is backpage your best option for advertisung?
I am going to do this on a very limited basis and am only scheduling by appt. I wanted first contact by email, does anyone have any ideas on this?
And lastly I want to accept credit cards (Is anyone else doing this?)
Thank You!
Samso
12-09-2015, 01:49 AM
I understand your safety rule about not discussing services. But as a user, I don't want to make an appointment without knowing that what I want will be provided. How do you recommend getting past this impasse. I certainly don't want to invite a girl to come out only to send her backhome because she doesn't provide what is needed. Escort ads typically include things like 'xoxoxoxo', 'guaranteed satisfaction', and a sexy, enticing pic -- nothing that really gives any hint to what services are being offered. I know specifically what I want and will call/text providers until I convince myself that I have found the right one. I want to know that I will get what I want at an appropriate fee before I invite someone over. While the provider does not want to talk about her services until after she gets here. For instance, if what I want is specifically 4play (such as daty, dfk, fiv, fia, tongue kissing, hugging, etc.) finished with bbbjtcs at a mutually acceptable rate how would a provider want me to communicate that to her before making an appointment? I have tried asking about gfe, but almost everyone has their own personal definition of what that is.
CFMNH44
12-16-2015, 05:00 PM
Your question is off topic since this thread is for escorts but I'll answer because it may be useful for them. ANY discussion of sex acts for money should result in an immediate hang-up of the phone! As should any discussion meeting face to face. Ladies that fail to follow this rule will get arrested. (and you're putting yourself at risk also...) Review sites, while despised by many, are one way to answer your question.
Daisy1970
12-17-2015, 07:29 AM
also @Samso I have done TONS OF RESEARCH and I get your concerns. I have hired an attorney to become a licensed escort in my area and to have him on retainer. I mean you never know.
I speak to my clients as far as "fantasy context" It is perfectly legal to speak about your fantasies. You can do this via email (BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT I FANTASIZE ABOUT THIS..... not WITH HER, just fantasize) I respond with what I fantasize about. I use this as a way "to get to know my clients before meeting".
Phone Sex and Sykpe sex are also perfectly LEGAL. So sometimes I will have a small session OF phone stuff.
This was information I found online but also information my attorney researched as well. ALSO, on my website I have "cryptic" ways of detailing things without actually detailing them outright. Ask if she has a website, almost everyone does now a days.
AubreyDabi
05-24-2016, 12:14 PM
I would also suggest getting a good booking agent, it changed my life. It saved me tons of wasted time and money and my booker knows all the ins and outs of the escorting business. phonestarzzz.com
Exxotica
06-22-2016, 05:09 PM
I would also suggest getting a good booking agent, it changed my life. It saved me tons of wasted time and money and my booker knows all the ins and outs of the escorting business. phonestarzzz.com
Thanks for the tip. I'm not against bookers. I think they are especially useful when its a slow season or when one is touring. Personally, I love having complete control over my business from the web design, to emailing to even taking my own pics (half of those so called photo shoots girls take on Instagram were done with really good selfie sticks and excellent photoshopping skills)
The less hands in my pockets, the better.. but I am considering trying out a booker
Exxotica
06-22-2016, 05:13 PM
BTW, make your out calls worth your while and make them 2 hour minimum if you can get away with it. You have to consider mileage and travel time. Just adding my 2 cents worth.
I've done plenty of 1 hour outcalls because many girls in my area don't offer them. In the end, a guy may overlook you for the girl doing an hour session just for that but to each his own. It doesn't take much for me to get ready for a quick hour session. I look better without make up on and don't overdo it with lingirie
RunawayNymphet
11-02-2016, 05:17 PM
Accountkiller.com (Shows you how to actually delete/erase account instead of just disabling it.)
Skyscanner.com (Searches flight by date, budget, and price)
BaileyGV
02-06-2017, 01:27 AM
" Furthermore, calling your fees a "donation," "diamonds," "kisses," or any other childish name screams, "I'm a cheap (and stupid) hooker." If you're not a hooker, don't advertise like one!"
Then what to put??
Aurora_Sunset
03-02-2017, 11:58 PM
" Furthermore, calling your fees a "donation," "diamonds," "kisses," or any other childish name screams, "I'm a cheap (and stupid) hooker." If you're not a hooker, don't advertise like one!"
Then what to put??
I just say "rates." Or fees. I don't think there's anything wrong with the word donation. But I agree that silly words like "diamonds," "roses," or "kisses" are kinda unprofessional and it's not like they're fooling anyone.
BlkSharpie
03-18-2017, 01:53 PM
Yeah, I say rates. Donation doesnt bother me, but I dont personally use it only because it implies the amount is a choice...lol But definitely, I hate those roses, kisses, whatevers... and whenever a guy asks me how many roses, I already just know the date isnt going to happen...most guys who see girls who charge "roses" dont pass my screening.
On that note, I have stopped saying "Yup, Im free to see you!" Because one guy got stupid with me and tried to say that meant at no cost vs available and said he wont be paying me anything then and got a bit snide. Im sure he just had a really bad sense of humour, but I was in no joking mood, cancelled the date and from that moment on, I always make sure to never say Im free, and say available instead. Semantics.
BaileyGV
03-25-2017, 10:31 PM
So guys, can more than one person verify that a booking agent is worth it? I see a service that is $300 per week...it's pricey but if it can get me even just one client.... I'm looking at phonestarz..legit?
T3beautyTara
04-06-2017, 01:54 PM
Edited. I see what the link was, that I was asking about. ;)
T3beautyTara
04-06-2017, 02:25 PM
I understand your safety rule about not discussing services. But as a user, I don't want to make an appointment without knowing that what I want will be provided. How do you recommend getting past this impasse. I certainly don't want to invite a girl to come out only to send her backhome because she doesn't provide what is needed. Escort ads typically include things like 'xoxoxoxo', 'guaranteed satisfaction', and a sexy, enticing pic -- nothing that really gives any hint to what services are being offered. I know specifically what I want and will call/text providers until I convince myself that I have found the right one. I want to know that I will get what I want at an appropriate fee before I invite someone over. While the provider does not want to talk about her services until after she gets here. For instance, if what I want is specifically 4play (such as daty, dfk, fiv, fia, tongue kissing, hugging, etc.) finished with bbbjtcs at a mutually acceptable rate how would a provider want me to communicate that to her before making an appointment? I have tried asking about gfe, but almost everyone has their rpersonal definition of what that is.
Omg, I know that this was posted in 2015, but I MUST respond to this! I've actually contemplated blogging on this. Hobbyist's and the clients looking for the perfect fit must realize that they have to stay legal TOO. I understand that, you want what you want, but what it boils down to, is that it's just not legal to ask those types of questions. I wish there was a way to scream to the masses....... If you want a legal Escort, spend your money on a woman that you thing you may connect with and then bring up your fantasies, get to know her. If it's not a right fit, then oh well, oh hell. That's part of the world. There have been many men and couples who have contacted me, while listing specifics in their e-mail or text and I CANNOT respond or they throw it in, in the middle of a perfectly legal, conversation. In that 3 seconds of type, they negated, everything and even though I would have adored to have that type of fun, once we got together and became fast friends and then made a legal adult decision, I couldn't take the call. I am a swinger, and so for me, Escorting is just another taboo part of my life, that I love. When a person contacts you and then speaks of sex, not only is that person requesting illegal services, he puts himself in the position of loosing time with a wonderful companion! Imho, if a woman is staying legal in her business, then she is also, most likely, one of the top notches that is taking her business seriously. It's all about, whether or not the seeking is willing to partake in the legal world of the Escort Business and I don't think that many of them take the time to understand, what they are actually, seeking out, to begin with........
For me, that has been a frustrating part of this business. If men and couples can take the time to understand what the Escort Business really is and realize that it's not just a quick fix, where you detail exactly what you want. That is called, seeking out a prostitute. That is Illegal. you may have to seek out some women, for a good fit, but you can't just jump online and send a girl a request about greek. Thats just stupid. I want to strangle them, sometimes, but on the same token, I also understand, that many of them are thinking, like, Samso, and just do not realize, what jeapordy they are putting themselves possibly in. A high end companion cannot legally answer those questions. There is not an easy way around it.
I danced for 9years and then ran a successful companion business, from gaining VIP customers on the inside and then moving on to the outside with them for nearly 5yrs. I have now just started Independent Escorting, online in the last 5 months, because I am now homeschooling my son. I am still maneuvering my way around it, but this, right here, that Samso said, (And, I'm glad that you said it, Samso, because you aren't alone in your questions!) is 1 of the biggest hurdles that can get so frustrating. Very good arrangements can be made if society understands what a Legal Escort truly is and how to prepare for one...
I'm on here with many questions that I have come across, and am seeing if I find the answers before duplicating questions. I must say, though, that seeing Samso's response on this, fits in very well, with what Independent Escorts deal with on some occasions and it just SUCKS... Because I'd much rather be able to check out the customer and when he clears, we meet and have a good time, and he spoils it when his penis starts talking. Those penis's.......... ya can't live with em, and ya can't live without em.. geeze....... sometimes, tell your penis to HUSH! If you would not say it to a woman that you just met an hour ago, just don't say it to the Escort that you don't even know.
Said with kindness
T3beautyTara
04-06-2017, 02:37 PM
Yeah, I say rates. Donation doesnt bother me, but I dont personally use it only because it implies the amount is a choice...lol But definitely, I hate those roses, kisses, whatevers... and whenever a guy asks me how many roses, I already just know the date isnt going to happen...most guys who see girls who charge "roses" dont pass my screening.
On that note, I have stopped saying "Yup, Im free to see you!" Because one guy got stupid with me and tried to say that meant at no cost vs available and said he wont be paying me anything then and got a bit snide. Im sure he just had a really bad sense of humour, but I was in no joking mood, cancelled the date and from that moment on, I always make sure to never say Im free, and say available instead. Semantics.
I have read that using the word Rate is illegal..... But my thoughts on that was, why is using the word, "rate," illegal if I'm not selling sex? I am selling my time and companionship, which is very valuable. I even read, that we should not list donation rates. That is an odd thing, to me, as well. It is legal to Escort and offer our companionship, which would include, obvious rates and yet we are instructed not to use the word, "rates" or "price" and call them donations............... ughhhh gurrr
T3beautyTara
04-06-2017, 02:41 PM
also @Samso I have done TONS OF RESEARCH and I get your concerns. I have hired an attorney to become a licensed escort in my area and to have him on retainer. I mean you never know.
I speak to my clients as far as "fantasy context" It is perfectly legal to speak about your fantasies. You can do this via email (BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT I FANTASIZE ABOUT THIS..... not WITH HER, just fantasize) I respond with what I fantasize about. I use this as a way "to get to know my clients before meeting".
Phone Sex and Sykpe sex are also perfectly LEGAL. So sometimes I will have a small session OF phone stuff.
This was information I found online but also information my attorney researched as well. ALSO, on my website I have "cryptic" ways of detailing things without actually detailing them outright. Ask if she has a website, almost everyone does now a days.
Hi Daisy. Can I Pm you? I'm not sure how to do that, yet. Do you have references to the research that you have done on discussing fantasy with customers? How do you keep it, just fantasizing, when the individual is wanting you to come out to meet them? Doesn't that fall under, discussing sexual acts within our being hired as their Escort? This would be SUPER HELPFUL for me to understand.
Since I started independent escorting, I have always stopped responding to the customer or told them, that due to their questions, I would have to decline their invite.
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08-06-2017, 07:43 PM
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NYC.Bianca
09-05-2017, 04:55 AM
This is all very good information! I have researched escorting off and on for a couple years, I find it interesting.. and have been propositioned more times dancing and even not dancing than I can count. My biggest questions when coming from dancing to escorting with a desire to increase income, is what do you ladies feel is more mentally/emotionally draining & damaging?? Dancing or escorting??
I would not be comfortable sleeping with just anyone, so can I make my decision of what clients to take on based on the screening and the introduction period??
I want to make this very safe, and fun and enjoyable for myself. But I also don't want to just take on anyone and I want to make sure I am the right match for them as well, it's like building clientele in any industry really.
Any seasoned escorts please dm me with any newbie advice! I am more and more seriously considering this... thank you!!!
AnthonySanderson
08-24-2020, 11:55 AM
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Elektra Luxx
08-25-2020, 06:13 AM
Hey Mods, I'm seeing three different headings in the posts in this thread, was this done to consolidate similar threads?
queenelayliah
11-11-2020, 07:26 PM
*note to self to read this thread
indiegirl
11-12-2020, 12:51 PM
" Furthermore, calling your fees a "donation," "diamonds," "kisses," or any other childish name screams, "I'm a cheap (and stupid) hooker." If you're not a hooker, don't advertise like one!"
Then what to put??
Lol or ladies who call themselves upscale, elite, high-end and they have poorly photographed selfie photos with cheap prices. Sometimes I think being more mysterious and select with your words is beneficial. I hired a woman to write my text for my website and ad back when I started. Now I am going a different route and focusing more on school/future.