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SarahTime
06-26-2012, 07:46 PM
Just to set the record straight, on a 'stand alone' basis, NOTHING that AMD currently offers can equal an Intel I7. On the other hand, the Intel I7 is at least $100 more expensive than an AMD processors ... and in a multi-tasking environment involving heavy graphics like camming, the new AMD FX series 8 core processors come damn close to I7 performance. Similarly, the AMD A series quad core processors pretty much replicate the performance of an Intel I5 in a camming environment.

With that said, any AMD dual core processor that is still available is going to be VERY slow, even compared to the Intel I3. As a personal opinion, I would not consider investing in an AMD dual core processor based computer today, nor would I consider investing in an Intel Celeron based computer. Both are essentially 'two generations' behind the times.

What I was trying to emphasize is that you don't have to run out and buy an Intel just because someone at Streamate told you that you have to have an "i7". What I have is darn close to an "i7" performance, what exactly it is called I'm not sure as my husband built the computer and not me, he built it to have the best available performance. I run two, sometimes three, instance of the encoder and yahoo, Skype screen sharing, and never see any issues.

So, while there may not currently be an exact equivalent to an i7 you can get pretty darn close if you know what you are doing.

But I assume it's much easier for most cam girls to run out and buy an Intel machine off the shelf rather than build it to meet their specific needs.

PrincessLuna
06-26-2012, 08:07 PM
I have the AMD Phenom II X6, which is a 6 core processor. I've had it for about a year now, its performance is only slightly lower than the i7 and is several hundred dollars cheaper. I have an i7 in my laptops and one desktop and the X6 in my other desktop and can say that unless your need is to run like a TON of programs at once, they're very identical in performance.

Glasses
06-26-2012, 08:24 PM
I'm running an AMD dual core (some 2.6Ghz x2) untill the new one arrives. Before the new settings I ran the encoder, my cammodels link, music and at least another window for websurfing. My CPU usage was around 30%. With the new settings it went up to 80% without the extra sites, however I was still not laggy. But the sm email said something like they didn't even switch fully to those settings so I expected it to get even worse. I still run those settings except for the fps that's at 20, I get no complaints, but when I asked a regular he said, very rarely I freeze but apart from that it's good. But I can still be fucked totally tomorrow or the day after that. I also have no idea about my placement, hd icon or anything since I have geoblocking.

+I have like 20-25ish upload speed, probably that's also helpful agains the lag.

I second Melonie, upgrading to something that's outdated already is not a really good idea. (If someone is thinking about dual cores)

However I wanted to buy the fx 8150 8 core processor, but my amd-fan friend told me that his heart was bleeding but I should go with the i5 3570k instead ( I was hesitating between those two) because the 8150 cannot be compared to that at all. I always had amd, I guess I could run everything fine on it, but he said the intel will be better for what I need. (I game too, and he works in 2 regular eastern eu studios as an operator that means 15ish sites at the same time, +google translate, music, 3/4 cams, yadayada and the "intel inside" pcs do a lot better) Also the i5 I ordered is like 45$ more expensieve than the 8150, but the motherboard is 20$ cheaper so it's not a big deal at the end. My pc is old, now if I upgrade, I upgrade pretty well, I will spend around 1000+ on it, that 20$ extra is nothing if it is really so much better.

Btw here is what I found about the multi-tasking thingie:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/05/01/intel-core-i5-3570k-cpu-review/5

I read so many tests, and it just cannot fuckin get in my head, how the hell is it so much worse in nearly everything while it's specs seem to be insane compared to those which always outperform it..

Incantatious
06-26-2012, 08:38 PM
Encoder 3.2 seems to hate me. So I run version 3.1... Anyone else?
Does it change anything? :/ I don't think it really does in terms of placement unless settings are different?

Melonie
06-27-2012, 01:44 AM
I read so many tests, and it just cannot fuckin get in my head, how the hell is it so much worse in nearly everything while it's specs seem to be insane compared to those which always outperform it..

... because there are like 100 different variables that can affect overall system performance besides processor speed and clock speed, and particularly so where graphics are concerned. AMD does most graphics right in the processor chip while Intel has to buss it over to separate graphics chips ... forcing graphics to compete with all other functions requiring the buss. And AMD FX has 8 cores available, which allows for greater multitasking efficiency if your application actually utilizes 8 different tasks ( versus an Intel quad core having to switch between tasks if the same 8 tasks are required). Thus attempts to benchmark expected performance in a camming application by comparing benchmarks based on other applications are only as 'applicable' as the similarity of the benchmark test conditions.

Also note that the I5-3570 is a 'hand picked' I5 with much superior performance to 'off the shelf' I5's. If you want to get into those sort of details, AMD also has 'hand picked' Black versions of its processors that also outperform the 'off the shelf' processors.

Cam_Model_Jess
06-27-2012, 12:44 PM
Encoder 3.2 seems to hate me. So I run version 3.1... Anyone else?
Does it change anything? :/ I don't think it really does in terms of placement unless settings are different?

Actually, if you look at the site, they are now recommending that PC users run 3.1 and Mac users run 3.2. However, I found that I could not get an HD icon with 3.1. I think you should use whichever version works best for you.

To clarify what I said about Intel vs AMD processors, someone on this site mentioned that she worked on another webcam site that was Intel-specific. I am not saying that I bought an Intel over an AMD b/c I know it's better and I know I need it. However, I'm SICK of buying new stuff for work, and figured if I'm going to drop hundreds on a new computer (when my other computer is still practically brand new), I might as well buy the one that SM says I need.

Also, considering how their tech people often respond to e-mails, I figured it a VERY real possibility that if I had an AMD processor, I could never get a straight answer from them regarding possible future issues. I was having nightmares in my head about them responding to every request with "we told you to get an i7" regardless of the fact that the issue would likely have NOTHING to do with my PC and everything to do with their site.

If you're using AMD and it's working for you, awesome. I have no doubt it is. It was just my personal preference to spend an extra $100 and get the i7 so I'm "covered".

That's all :)

Glasses
06-27-2012, 06:10 PM
Also, considering how their tech people often respond to e-mails, I figured it a VERY real possibility that if I had an AMD processor, I could never get a straight answer from them regarding possible future issues. I was having nightmares in my head about them responding to every request with "we told you to get an i7" regardless of the fact that the issue would likely have NOTHING to do with my PC and everything to do with their site.)

Haha that's what I've thought when I first read their email. They'll be just washing their hands saying, well we told you the problem is on your end...

whiteheat
07-08-2012, 05:11 AM
Sooo
like I previously mentioned my laptop is not an i7 etc etc but I had no problems using the new encoder settings till last week.
The browser runs slow it takes ages to type (I never type thou), everything act slow, fortunately no lags, and CPU usage goes super high as well, some guys told me the video/audio acts jerkily.
My placement is pretty good (always in the top rows) and the HD icon is showing up, earnings are as usual, nice traffic, but I feel like I'm missing some potential guys and maybe low rating for these tech issue, so I'm ready to buy a new laptop tomorrow morning ;]
Researching nowwww

whiteheat
07-08-2012, 07:10 AM
^^^ as is somewhat similar to Canada, heavily regulated Italian 'consumer' ISP's are reluctant to invest big money to upgrade their bandwidth capability for 'residential' customers since the regulated rates they are allowed to charge are unlikely to provide any 'payback' on such an investment. However, there is 'business class' service available, for example, from CDLAN which can provide much greater bandwidth ... at an increased price of course.

So if I call my provider and tell them I need to upgrade to a business plan they could give me this option? hmmm
Ima call them now and see what they say and what upload speed I could reach with that

bigbootyjudy1
07-08-2012, 05:10 PM
How do you guys see the HD symbol.Is it through the external encoder?

bubblegumbitch
07-11-2012, 07:39 PM
hey you guys, my friend just gave me this site http://www.crucial.com/ - it scans your computer and tells you exactly what you need for your RAM! totally cool.

laurielegs
07-11-2012, 11:40 PM
How do you guys see the HD symbol.Is it through the external encoder?

You have to view the SM site and look for that little HD symbol on the feed on the main page. You'll see it beside your name above the pic with a little square with HD in the middle.

Marina Starr
07-11-2012, 11:43 PM
I finally get my HD icon to pop back on, yay!

Incantatious
07-12-2012, 04:41 AM
My HD icon has gone and even though I have checked and re-checked that the encoder settings are all perfectly in line with their new shtick, I am getting the smaller streaming video and no HD icon... I was streaming in HD last night but it seems to not want to let me stream in HD today. Annoying as fuck.

I'm getting a little bit bored going online, checking my HD icon, checking encoder settings, and going offline again.

AliceFun
07-12-2012, 06:30 AM
I am soo angry with how site works lately, this new pc has to produce money (got a loan to buy it), they required us to get new pc's and now they mess up with traffic, hd icon, placement, i fucking hate this! Tried to splitcamm but i am limited by connection if i wanna keep the new settings on sm, if i go lower who knows what will happen, i anyways loose the hd icon now and again even i work with the recommended settings, arghhh!

CourtneyRaine
07-12-2012, 06:42 AM
^ Exactly why I haven't spent the money to upgrade my computer just for SM when no other site I'm on requires it. I must say, I think it's remarkably crappy that girls who have the "right" hardware and are using the encoder are still having so many issuse with their HD icon and placement. I am making less than I used to since I've stopped using the encoder but I ask myself, if I spent all this money on upgrades but still had issues then what would be the point?

Marina Starr
07-12-2012, 07:12 AM
I'm sorry some of you are having so much issues with the new Encoder. I just a Mac i5 laptop and couldn't get my HD icon to come on but I finally fixed it. I'm hoping it will stay on. My old laptop couldn't handle the encoder. It was stalling and got so hot!

whiteheat
07-12-2012, 08:45 AM
Soo I upgraded my laptop (intel 7 quadcore 8GB ram etc) since Monday and wooo loving it ;D
little hours and moar paper running :]

This morning (night for US) was really sucky thou, HD icon kept going on and off and I disappeared costantly from the pages, then I started having issues with the "loading interface page" D:

AliceFun
07-12-2012, 08:45 AM
I wanted a new pc since a while now cause my son also wanted my old pc as he had a very slow one, till SM came up with their system requirements ('ATLEAST i7', ha!) i did not have the urge to go for a new pc but then i said to myself 'Ok, now is time to upgrade' (i had people in/ out my room like crazy and nobody talking); i really believed this will help with traffic just like they said in emails/ messages 'in order to be seen by all our members bla bla'.
They doing a lousy job over there, really bad management :((

Marina Starr
07-12-2012, 10:16 AM
Hi Alice, I want to give you a big HUG! I just wanted to tell you that nothing is permanent so keep your heads up!


I wanted a new pc since a while now cause my son also wanted my old pc as he had a very slow one, till SM came up with their system requirements ('ATLEAST i7', ha!) i did not have the urge to go for a new pc but then i said to myself 'Ok, now is time to upgrade' (i had people in/ out my room like crazy and nobody talking); i really believed this will help with traffic just like they said in emails/ messages 'in order to be seen by all our members bla bla'.
They doing a lousy job over there, really bad management :((

SweetPinkCupcake
07-12-2012, 01:32 PM
Hey girls,

I'll post a screenshot of the settings that are working for me right now. I can now cam from my Windows i5 laptop (and that i5 has a LOT of junk and memory filled up on it). These settings worked for me. I hope I am posting this screenshot right.. lol. . and in the advanced settings, do a frequency of 1 second.

31080

kinkydirtybitch
07-12-2012, 01:42 PM
Hey girls,

I'll post a screenshot of the settings that are working for me right now. I can now cam from my Windows i5 laptop (and that i5 has a LOT of junk and memory filled up on it). These settings worked for me. I hope I am posting this screenshot right.. lol. . and in the advanced settings, do a frequency of 1 second.

31080

FACK the settings ER... YUMMMY BABE ALERT

#lesbian

/threadjack

That is all

naughtycamgirl
07-12-2012, 03:04 PM
I am desperate ! I am using the encoder, my upload is about 2Mb (can't get more in my area) + a killer i7 laptop ( fortunatelly I bought it 4 months ago before sm asks for an i7, if I upgraded it just for sm I would be pulling my hair now) all this and my placement is not good at all, I can stay for like 5 min with no one in my room or just 2 to 5 guys maximum (most of them freeloaders) it is taking me ages to reach my goal, sometimes I am giving up.
the best thing is new girls from my country charging very very very little and doing very cheap gold shows even when they only reach a quarter or less of their target !! WTF
BTW y stream seems good when I check it but traffic is terrible

I took a screenshot of my encoder stats, can anybody tell me if they are good ? pls 31081

then I was in a looooong pvt tonight at a certain point the guy stopped answering, but he was still in my paid chat, then I got a message saying ''system error'' and got kicked, and when I checked my earnings I realized that I only earned 4$ ( it means that he wasn't in my room all the time that I was showing) GRRRRRRR

Glasses
07-12-2012, 03:12 PM
I am desperate ! I am using the encoder, my upload is about 2Mb (can't get more in my area) + a killer i7 laptop ( fortunatelly I bought it 4 months ago before sm asks for an i7, if I upgraded it just for sm I would be pulling my hair now) all this and my placement is not good at all, I can stay for like 5 min with no one in my room or just 2 to 5 guys maximum (most of them freeloaders) it is taking me ages to reach my goal, sometimes I am giving up.
the best thing is new girls from my country charging very very very little and doing very cheap gold shows even when they only reach a quarter or less of their target !! WTF

I took a screenshot of my encoder stats, can anybody tell me if they are good ? pls 31081

BTW y stream seems good when I check it but traffic is terrible

Same here. I never "banked" on smate, but THIS? If I didn't have this regular, I'd make average 2$/hour. Something is messed up for me this week. I aint got no freeloaders either. At least very little of them. I get NOONE LOL.

Marina Starr
07-12-2012, 03:20 PM
Can you take a screen shot of your encoder before you click 'Start'?


I am desperate ! I am using the encoder, my upload is about 2Mb (can't get more in my area) + a killer i7 laptop ( fortunatelly I bought it 4 months ago before sm asks for an i7, if I upgraded it just for sm I would be pulling my hair now) all this and my placement is not good at all, I can stay for like 5 min with no one in my room or just 2 to 5 guys maximum (most of them freeloaders) it is taking me ages to reach my goal, sometimes I am giving up.
the best thing is new girls from my country charging very very very little and doing very cheap gold shows even when they only reach a quarter or less of their target !! WTF
BTW y stream seems good when I check it but traffic is terrible

I took a screenshot of my encoder stats, can anybody tell me if they are good ? pls 31081

then I was in a looooong pvt tonight at a certain point the guy stopped answering, but he was still in my paid chat, then I got a message saying ''system error'' and got kicked, and when I checked my earnings I realized that I only earned 4$ ( it means that he wasn't in my room all the time that I was showing) GRRRRRRR

naughtycamgirl
07-12-2012, 03:26 PM
31082
Can you take a screen shot of your encoder before you click 'Start'?
profile : main
level:3.0
keyframe frequency :1sec

Marina Starr
07-12-2012, 03:31 PM
This is EXACTLY how I had mine. Does your HD icon comes on when you cam with the encoder? I don't think you're doing anything wrong, it could be that SM is slow. Try working on another site?



31082
profile : main
level:3.0
keyframe frequency :1sec

naughtycamgirl
07-12-2012, 03:53 PM
Thank u martina, yes I think the problem is not on my end, the HD icon doesn't show immediately when I start broadcasting, but it shows like after 10 min

tinydancer23
07-17-2012, 08:21 AM
for what it's worth, i stopped having problems with the new settings when i turned off anti-flicker on the logitech...my hd icon was dropping with anti-flicker on and i wasn't getting the right fps. it works really well for me now. usually if my hd icon drops, it's back within a few minutes, and it only happens once or twice a shift.

Cam_Model_Jess
07-17-2012, 09:03 AM
I don't see an anti-flicker option on the Logitech controls. I also don't see anything to tell me what my fps is. I know that you can get a flickering image in low-light settings, but I don't see any way to adjust frames.

The C910 has a RightLight option, an AutoFocus option, and Auto Gain. Am I missing something? Or are you talking about a different version of cam?

tinydancer23
07-17-2012, 09:08 AM
frames per second is fps...when you stream, it's on the right side under your picture. you should be getting between 27-31 fps on average with the new settings. you can't adjust it, but if your settings are incorrect even if you have tried to set it to 29.97 before you stream, you'll only get 25 or some other number.

with the logitech 9000 controller, click "webcam options" then "advanced settings" (under autofocus), then at the bottom left there is an option for anti-flicker (pal or ntsc). turn it off. sorry, i don't know if it looks the same for the c910 or not - i've never used it.

Cam_Model_Jess
07-17-2012, 09:18 AM
HA! I totally missed that. Yeah, I have it set to NTSC. Hmmm... that's very interesting. I just bought new C910 b/c the old C910 was doing this flickering thing. I thought it was an issue with the cam or something. I'll have to try turning this off and see what happens.

And thanks for letting me know about the fps. I knew what it stood for and that people were probably reading it from the encoder, but I thought they were saying there's a way to adjust it. I get it now.

Thank you :)

tinydancer23
07-17-2012, 09:22 AM
mine flickers a lot, whether i have anti-flicker turned on or not...depends on the day though. i've learned to accept it, lol. i use a lot of lights. anti-flicker doesn't really make a difference, but it can fuck up your settings and make your hd icon drop, so my theory is better to go without it.

and you're welcome! fps can be confusing. the issue i've seen is if you have your settings set to 29.97 but another setting is off, when you actually stream you won't get 29.97 which will make streamate "think" you are not in hd. so your icon drops. or at least mine does :)

Cam_Model_Jess
07-17-2012, 09:38 AM
Wow, that's really helpful info. I'll fool around with some things and see what happens. As far as I can tell, my stream has been ok, but maybe it's just periodically bad b/c my icon is still dropping sometimes & I've been getting some crappy ratings.

That makes a lot of sense though. I'll specifically watch the fps and see what it's doing.

I just kind of blindly put my settings where SM told us to put them, assuming that they should be at the highest settings recommended, and rode with that. I was too afraid to experiment too much with it, but it looks like some of you ladies are having good results deviating from the recommendations.

Cam2cam
07-17-2012, 10:36 AM
I stop using the encoder point blank period. Guess what? I make more money then i ever have and keep making it to the top of my category and front of streamate. ( no HD sign either, shit makes my cam lag) Maybe the girls on the encoder are getting frustrated and moving to other sites.

I cant tell if the encoder is really necessary as streamate makes it, or its there way of scaring girls off.

the point of my post is to say im making money regardless off that stupid ass encoder. Is anyone else?

Cammi
07-17-2012, 10:46 AM
and you're welcome! fps can be confusing. the issue i've seen is if you have your settings set to 29.97 but another setting is off, when you actually stream you won't get 29.97 which will make streamate "think" you are not in hd. so your icon drops. or at least mine does :)

My FPS is set in the encoder at 25 (15 on bad bandwidth days) and I've never had problems with losing my HD icon, so I don't think that's the problem for everyone. Good thing you've got yours sorted though! :D

tinydancer23
07-17-2012, 11:11 AM
My FPS is set in the encoder at 25 (15 on bad bandwidth days) and I've never had problems with losing my HD icon, so I don't think that's the problem for everyone. Good thing you've got yours sorted though! :D

awesome! it might not be the problem for everyone. the issue i've seen is when i set it to 29.97 and only get 25 for some reason - it won't go any higher when i'm streaming. if i set it to 25 and i get 25 everything is fine. but if i set it to one thing and i'm getting another, that's when i have a lot of problems.

Marina Starr
07-17-2012, 12:29 PM
I'm happy to report that over a week of using my new Mac i5, the Encoder has been wonderful. My video feed is like silk. I'm still gonna upgrade it to an i7 though I think what I have now is more than enough.

bubblegumbitch
07-18-2012, 06:30 AM
glad some of you are doing fine w/o the encoder... lately since i have not been able to even switch to the new settings, it has been taking me like 5 hrs to make $50. i am finally able to go down to the store and get my ram today. i cannot pay my bills like this.