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Melonie
03-02-2015, 08:10 AM
^^^ I hadn't read the comments earlier ... but after reading them I still think most of those 'fans' love my huge breast implants, and really don't care all that much about the person they're connected to !!! An 'occupational hazard' in the huge boobs niche I suppose. At any rate, as long as they keep spending money on my videos and CD's, I'm not going to worry about it !
Heid009
03-03-2015, 08:16 AM
I love the Marilyn-ish hair and and red nails!
nattyfetish
03-03-2015, 08:18 AM
Does any of you girls have experience with this site when it comes to taking down videos? Which were uploded without your permission/ recorded without your permission. And how do you search yourself for this types of videos?I found this videos on some stupid forums. Sent 10 emails and report abuses to rapidgator: nothing !
Now I saw there is another DMCA thread, can my message be moved there? So it's not like 2 seperate threads. I wanna now about rapidgator, it is diffrent but on the same subject i think hmm....
MissJu
03-03-2015, 08:38 AM
I used to work on MFC for a bit and recently searched my username and found a few sites that have videos of my webcam shows.
I did not watermark my stuff stupidly.
So, I sent DMCA notices to all of them and one of the sites told me that I am not the lawful copyright holder, that the guy who recorded my video is.
WTF?!?!
Anyone have experience with this?
To be honest...you can do literaly NOTING!you will contact mfc send them links, cuz those mfc fuckers need all links cuz(one by one) themself fuckers are so useless. That site will take vids down...for like 5 mins and after upload them again!And again!and AGAIN!
audritwo
03-03-2015, 10:05 AM
report your thread for the mods to see
nattyfetish
03-03-2015, 11:00 AM
Thank you for moving it ! It is frustrating to see that members take advantage of your image (i know for sure it is not the site i work on that posted them, i asked). And this upload site loves to ignore me. I will keep reporting it maybe i am in luck.
Oh, another thing, there was this guest telling me to search myself on google images because there are 3 videos of me. He described what i was wearing in them. From all 3 i found only 1. One was from file-guide.com & i understood that the site was taken down. But the third one i can't find it. That is why i asked you : how do you find yourself ?
Oh, if only they would have asked nicely before ( if they can record me and put it). Assholes.
Melonie
03-08-2015, 05:42 PM
Oh, if only they would have asked nicely before ( if they can record me and put it). Assholes.
Again, this is something which many webcam hosts and video producers consider themselves to be 'entitled' to these days ... thus no need or reason to ask for the model's permission to post her adult content in unexpected places. Because of the inclusion of copyright ownership verbage in webcam host terms of service and model releases, the risk of a camgirl / model's adult content appearing in unexpected places ... and the resulting nearly non-existant legal ability for that camgirl / model to get said adult content taken down if the webcam host / video producer choose not to co-operate, thus allowing said adult content to remain posted in unexpected places to be discovered by others ... has now effectively become 'part of the job'.
Putting this bluntly, these days, every new camgirl should count on the fact that adult content which she creates will wind up floating around the internet forever. And that 'uncontrolled' adult content is likely to be increasingly vulnerable to improving search technologies which may 'out' the camgirl to friends and acquaintances, to future 'straight' job employers, etc. If this will comprise a major 'problem', the girl may want to think twice before they begin camming ( and begin creating 'uncontrolled' adult content )
bugfix
07-19-2015, 07:30 AM
Hi i think its time now for everyone to know how useless the support teams are at enforcing DMCA on all these cam sites. As a performer on most of them i was always under the impression they cared about out privacy, but clearly no one gives two shits!!! Only us the performers have the power to change the industry and not act like puppets to these cam companies.
Most sites i will list are exploiting models and violating there DMCA and they are not always hosted on offshore servers but are simply masking there real IP's thru Cloudflare dns this makes it difficult to find there hosting companies and remove these webs. Google doesn't seem to care as well seeing as these sites are searchable. The only way to stop this is by everyone that is being used and abused by these webs is to keep annoying support for all the cam sites that you so comfortably work at. Keep in mind it should be there responsibility to stop these criminals and not yours. We need to make lots of noise otherwise this will only get worst.
Here are a list of some of these webs and you can search your Nicks/name to see if you are effected by this. I have already tracked a few of these sites and am actively trying to stop so any support from the community would be of help. Pm me if your interested in fighting for your rights!!
PM ME FOR THESE LINKS
Prussia
07-19-2015, 08:06 AM
You should delete the links in your post. It's not logical to post those links in a public forum for anyone to see. Private message them to girls that ask for them.
Also, it's not always that the cam site doesn't care, it's more about where the content is being hosted. You can't go after anyone anywhere with DMCA. There are limits to what cam sites can do for you. Don't you think a million girls have written cam sites reporting these sketchy sites already? Even if they can take this stuff down all the guy is going to do is reupload it again. These guys know exactly what they are doing. Sad truth is thems the breaks when you're a camgirl.
audritwo
07-19-2015, 08:07 AM
Gee thanks for putting these sites out there on a public forum. We get enough lurkers as it is, and posting these links just leads them to it. Please delete those links OP. We have a anti-piracy group: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/group.php?groupid=128
Post them there. Message the group moderator to add you. You may need to get verified first. IDK.
bugfix
07-19-2015, 08:15 AM
Gee thanks for putting these sites out there on a public forum. We get enough lurkers as it is, and posting these links just leads them to it. Please delete those links OP. We have a anti-piracy group:
Post them there. Message the group moderator to add you. You may need to get verified first. IDK.
I think this problem is out of hand and everyone that broadcasts should know of it. We need to make people aware of this issue otherwise a small group of people will not make enough noise about it. The links are now hidden.
audritwo
07-19-2015, 08:17 AM
Okay, but just so you know links get deleted all the time. Out of respect, could you please delete them. Plus majority of us on this board know of these sites existence so we are not all in the dark.
Regardless, reported. If you're not gonna delete them, our mod will more then likely edit it out.
bugfix
07-19-2015, 08:17 AM
[QUOTE=Prussia;2781890]You should delete the links in your post. It's not logical to post those links in a public forum for anyone to see. Private message them to girls that ask for them.
good advise i will PM anyone interested in these links
hyori
07-19-2015, 08:18 AM
I don't know, I think it's free marketing exposure for me. I don't bother with DMCAing any of my content anymore. It hasn't made a difference in my earnings, if anything I'm earning more now.
audritwo
07-19-2015, 08:20 AM
I don't know, I think it's free marketing exposure for me. I don't bother with DMCAing any of my content anymore. It hasn't made a difference in my earnings, if anything I'm earning more now.
Yeah, plus I choose to work on sites that don't have public show options, so the chances of me being recorded are slashed. I still do, but if I find one on a tubesite, I post my cammodels link.
Prussia
07-19-2015, 08:22 AM
Yeah, plus I choose to work on sites that don't have public show options, so the chances of me being recorded are slashed. I still do, but if I find one on a tubesite, I post my cammodels link.
This. I'm on a couple of those sites with me in my open room only... I have a few privates posted on tube sites. Honestly, 99% of my private shows are posted by that annoying live violet (?) studio from SM.
bugfix
07-19-2015, 08:22 AM
I don't know, I think it's free marketing exposure for me. I don't bother with DMCAing any of my content anymore. It hasn't made a difference in my earnings, if anything I'm earning more now.
They are selling your videos and you make no money? that doesn't sound like smart marketing to me, give it away is not the way to make money online and only hurts you in the end. Besides a lot of us don't want to feel more ripped off then we do already.
Prussia
07-19-2015, 08:29 AM
They are selling your videos and you make no money? that doesn't sound like smart marketing to me, give it away is not the way to make money online and only hurts you in the end. Besides a lot of us don't want to feel more ripped off then we do already.
lolol I'm pretty sure the amount of money I've lost to those sites is not only laughable, but not worth my time stressing over. Personally to me it's more the principle. It's the same as when guys buy the profile vids for $3 on SM. This drives some girls mental. Why? If that's what you want to buy instead of going private with me, amazing. Thanks for not wasting my time captain cheapo. If they buy that video and then decide to take me private, thanks for hosting that shit for me, gladly keep your $5 and I'll enjoy my much higher cut.
hyori
07-19-2015, 08:33 AM
lolol I'm pretty sure the amount of money I've lost to those sites is not only laughable, but not worth my time stressing over. Personally to me it's more the principle. It's the same as when guys by the profile vids for $3 on SM. this drives some girls mental. Why? If that's what you want to buy instead of going private with me, amazing. Thanks for not wasting my time captain cheapo. If they buy that video and then decide to take me private, thanks for hosting that shit for me, gladly keep your $5 and I'll enjoy my much higher cut.
Amen.
Also, it's not the price of the video that you sell, it's how many! It's Walmart mentality with vids. For private, live, shows however, completely different story.
nolita_xoxo
07-19-2015, 04:55 PM
Here to add that on a number of the websites where my content's been stolen, instead of actually taking down the content they blocked my IP, rendering my page 'forbidden'. It didn't hit me until recently that they'd probably just made it forbidden to me. Visit your links on TOR to see that they're still up/active.
bugfix
07-20-2015, 04:44 AM
A bit of light in the tunnel seems like google is trying to help in there own way
please have a look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-USYmiPLfQ
We need to send DMCA takedown requests!!!!
CatBBW
07-20-2015, 06:36 AM
I thought guys couldn't read this section of the forum?
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?202171-In-relation-to-the-Chaturbate-and-DMCA-thread-in-Cam-Connnection-area
Luna66
07-20-2015, 07:37 AM
^It was my understanding they can read but not post here.
audritwo
07-20-2015, 08:04 AM
They can read it if they don't log in. They can't post. Can someone summarize that up for me, I'm on my phone, and this site ain't mobile friendly
hyori
07-20-2015, 08:37 AM
Anyone can read anything on this site without a membership except group forums. The free membership let's you search, sort, create a profile/group and mark as read and join some groups. Some groups require some sort of verification or invitation to join. The Verified Camgirls group is probably one of the most secure groups but, it's not foolproof because the login and password can be given to another person. However, the IP is logged.
pinklemonade0
09-29-2015, 12:50 AM
hi,
im really sorry to do this as i know the information is out there on the forum but ive just searched for about half an hour and i cant find the thread which was a step by step guide on how to send a dmca.
i have found thousands of pictures and videos of myself online and i want to try, as best is possible, to get as many of them as possible taken down. people selling them and making profit as well.
i dont understand how to do the dmca and i know there was a thread on here that walked people through it. dont understand how im not finding it in my searches.
if anyone has a link like that ... i would be forever grateful.
im sure its probably easy just i dont understand... is it a simple form i email to the site?
thank you :(
pinklemonade0
09-29-2015, 01:22 AM
just found this - http://www.camgirl-nation.com/stealing-content-understanding-dcma/
with sample letter. is this good enough?
caramelcraze
09-29-2015, 02:49 AM
I'm not going to be a ton of help sadly, but depending on the site, some have awesome dmca services you can use. I know cb and c4s have them. If you're going to file dmca's, try to get w/e site originally hosted the content to send it on your behalf, otherwise it kind of leaves you exposed.
misspaige1991
03-12-2016, 06:06 AM
Hello Ladies!
I apologize if any of these questions have been answered elsewhere on SW, but I have been looking to start camming for a little over a month now and have done plenty of research both here and on ACF. I've learned so much for which I am very grateful, but there's still some questions I have and I can't seem to find the answers I'm looking for.
My first question is whether or not any of you think investing in a DMCA protection plan is worth it. Throughout all the research I've done, I've heard many different facts/opinions and honestly it's just been sort of confusing. I've heard some cam sites will offer free takedowns and will submit the request for you, but I've also heard some others won't bother to help you at all. I've been looking into the protection pro plan at for $10/month, but I've also seen some models suggest/swear by with plans from $70 to $270 a MONTH! I definitely won't be jumping into a cammodelprotection plan any time soon, but I'm just wondering what your input is on this, and what makes this service that much better to justify paying so much more per month.
On another note, I've seen plenty of DMCA badges at the bottom of profile pages, but only a small percentage ever have the logo appear directly on their live stream. Does this make a difference? I have heard that many porn/tube sites won't allow videos to be uploaded if they have a logo or watermark, which is why I'm confused as to why only a small percentage of models who use the DMCA badge do this. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I can only assume that the girls who do have the DMCA logo (or any logo) on their stream are using manycams to achieve this? I downloaded the free version of manycams the other day, and the resolution is awful and you're unable to remove the manycams watermark. It's $50 to buy the pro version which allows you to stream in HD/remove watermark. I have been considering buying this as well, but again - not sure it's it's really worth it. I recently bought an HD webcam, but I have an iMac and turns out the driver isn't compatible with mac so I'm unable to adjust any settings. Would the pro version of manycams allow me to do this, or at least improve my feed?
I was thinking that if it is true about tube sites not allowing watermarked videos to be uploaded, I could at the very least add my own logo to my stream. Does manycams allow you to upload an image, and change the size/location/transparency? I've obviously seen that you can add text, but I have been working on making a nice logo for myself and would much rather use that instead.
Gahhh so many questions, again I'm sorry if these have been asked before. Thanks in advance for any advice you have for me!
Sally Says
03-12-2016, 06:11 AM
Where do you plan to cam? Many sites don't allow you to watermark your feed which is why you will find shows without watermarks, this is generally because the site itself will be selling the recorded shows, or using them for promo etc. Each site will have something about what you are allowing them to do in the terms of service.
Manycam is good for watermarking a feed but it uses up a lot of processor power, which unless you have bought a laptop specifically for camming, is something that many of us need more of!
misspaige1991
03-12-2016, 10:15 AM
The sites I've been considering are Chaturbate, Cam4 and Streamate. I've definitely seen watermarks and logos on both CB and cam4 but not so much on SM. I have seen girls on SM with physical posters in the background with info like their name or a tip menu, but I haven't seen it often or paid much attention to details. I've been a little on the fence of camming on SM because of hearing how they have a reputation for selling shows. I think I need to dig a little deeper in my research before I decide to cam with them.
Sally Says
03-12-2016, 10:41 AM
You have to assume you will be recorded wherever you cam to be honest, and if that bothers you then this isn't going to suit you as work.
Some people spend hours searching for their content and getting it removed, others treat it as promotion and just shrug it off
TheBrownFox
03-12-2016, 03:40 PM
I don't really cam on there anymore, but I realized one day that my favorite MFC regular had been recording me (I don't think he was posting me on websites though) when he e-mailed me a mini video clip of me telling an MFC member "Yup!" in public chat. Yes, you read that right. It's like a 1 or 2-second clip of me on cam saying "Yup!" *scratches head* I found it a bit odd, and I thought to myself "Wow, has he really been sitting there recording my every word and movement in public chat???" It was also weird to me, because I didn't do cum shows in public chat. So I figured it he had been recording me just in public chat, I KNOW he must've been recording the true privates we did together (I used a dildo in true private only)...though I think MFC records those anyway and saves them for the member to watch over and over again.
misspaige1991
03-12-2016, 04:30 PM
Yeah that's just it. I don't plan on being a non-nude model, but I've decided I don't want to fully take my clothes off (let alone use toys or masturbate) unless I'm in a paid chat. The last thing I want is to lose a potential paying customer because they've found videos of me for free on some stupid tube site.
CanadianRuby
03-12-2016, 07:11 PM
You can contact DMCA Defender, if you're looking into something like that. Their plans are per year, (99/year, 199/year, or 299/year). The websites can do monthly, weekly, or daily content searches on porn/tube websites, and they allow you to pick up to 100 keywords you want them to be looking for. For example "Sally123, Sally123 cam show, sally123 porn video...", etc.
They are the cheapest DMCA / Reputation management website I have come across. I think that type of thing would be useful for cam models that have fairly unique usernames / stage names.
Hi girls,
Well this is my first post, and even though I have been reading for a time this forum I never wrote until now. I decided to do it, and as I was checking I saw a lot of info regarding the DMCA, but I couldn’t find a thread which summarized how we have to deal with the piracy and the content leaks on the net we all suffer day after day. I have been a cam model for a time now, and also have suffered from this copyright infringement issue and honestly I am tired of it. So this is what I would try to do in my first thread, create like a quick guide about the DMCA, as this is an important matter for all camgirls nowadays, and I’ll show my personal experience on how I manage it so new camgirls and the ones that still doesn’t know how to deal with this annoying situation have some basics about it.
Well going right to the point, first I have to disagree when I read some girls that are living with the: “well these are the rules of the game: take it or leave it…” “We can't do anything about it...” “Just watermark your streaming and at least you are promoted…”
I have to totally disagree and we shouldn't resign with these statements, kind of normalizing this situation, because that resignation is simply becoming dangerous for all camgirls. We need to get together against this people, cause we are not seeing any cent from them or a percentage from what these "guys" are making thanks to us, (I am always talking about those kind of sites that upload almost instantly our full streaming and put it available to be downloaded for $2 or $3). In our model release there is nothing stating that our content is gonna be leaked all around the net and that besides of that, its gonna be available for downloads in exchange of some cash, cash that no one of us is touching!
How to know if my videos are leaked and uploaded on the net?
Check it out by yourself and search in Google for your camgirl name to know if your videos have been uploaded. If you usually broadcast in CB or MFC, the reality is that you are in G Index both text and images with a 99% probability, and in videos index as well if you are becoming popular. These pirate sites have your content uploaded and available to be downloaded in exchange of money. If you usually broadcast in only private sites, the truth is you are putting a barrier, but it doesn’t mean that your streaming isn’t recorded. You just have to check in the porn tubes to see that there are thousands and thousands of uploaded private sessions, most of them from sites like Streamate.
How to protect my content?
There is something that I would call the DMCA Protected badges myth or illusion... The DMCA Protected in your profile, simply doesn’t help to stop the people we must be focusing our fight. Yes, obviously it has a psychological effect on some, but not the important ones. I want to get this clear because some girls could think that they won’t be uploaded when they set the DMCA protected badge on the profile or that they have more rights against infringers if they are uploaded maybe? You have same rights displaying or not the DMCA badge. Reality is that Nothing can be done to stop yourself from being leaked on the net when you are streaming. That you should be aware about if you are thinking to start camming because that is how Internet works nowadays sadly.. everything is leaked. But precautions can be taken to takedown your pirated content from those sites, and no, precautions are not watermarking your live streaming, but the use of the best tool available to fight against copyright infringement on the net, the DMCA takedown notices.
You can read more about DMCA and how to file a DMCA notice .
Filing or not filing a DMCA takedown by myself?
This is an important issue, so I hope I could help to get things a little more clear. After reading about how this worked and later with my personal experience, my recommendation for you is that the best thing is to forward the DMCA notifications to a third party professional service or directly to the DMCA support from the sites, or using both even better. Thing with DMCA is, everytime we file a DMCA takedown notification we must always put our real data, this information then is read by the infringer. I don’t know about you, but I don’t like the idea that the infringer has available my real name, address and phone, besides of having all my records available. DMCA is a legal procedure, and sometimes we could be asked to show that we are real owners of the content. So this is why we need to remain anonymous as much as possible, and leave the procedure to third parties like the DMCA support from sites, or external services. I recommend you to use an external service besides of using the DMCA supports of sites like CB, MFC or SM because it will be like adding an extra security layer to protect all your content that is leaked everytime you are streaming and also in my experience, they save a lot of time and money.
Regarding these 3rd party services that handle the DMCA takedowns I have tried several during this time, but I will recommend you 2: and.
Copyprotection is a DMCA takedown service for $29 monthly and the good thing is that they monitor all the net for your content thefts all time, so when they detect it they report the infringement, meaning you don’t have to let them know where you saw your content (most of the time). Everything is on automatic pilot and they include unlimited DMCA takedowns per month, so that protection its well worth the price. Also there is DMCA.com, which are the owners of the famous DMCA Protected badge. When you subscribe you have available 1 FREE takedown when a theft is detected by yourself. They also have a $10/month subscription which is a DIY takedown service, however they don’t do it on your behalf for that price, (professional takedowns are $199) and that’s the snag for us.
Conclusion
In my opinion, we must put an end to this issue or at least try to put things much more complicated to these thieves, as we are the ones who are most affected out of all this. While these thieves have these pages open illegally, we will be losing money, because why to pay me when for $2 or even nothing they can have 1 hour length videos of mine??? We have to stop this , and shut down all these sites. At least today as a result of my personal experience I hardly find myself on Google searches, and I know at least that when I’m online it won’t take long since the content disappears. But that is not enough, and this fight is far from over yet. Hopefully one day Google will stop this, but if we resignate and normalize something that is simply illegal obviously it doesn't help too much to face this fight.
I hope girls that are looking for this info have a better understanding about DMCA and how is the situation right now for camgirls in regards of it. Hopefully this could be a valuable source of info for all of you.
Thanks
XOXO
alexalexx
06-20-2016, 05:10 PM
I like the idea of stopping them, but it's going to happen only when the money they make will be less than the money they invest. They cannot stop movies from being posted, nobody will give a shit about us.
I like the idea of stopping them, but it's going to happen only when the money they make will be less than the money they invest. They cannot stop movies from being posted, nobody will give a shit about us.
The good news is that it doesn’t depend only on the sites, this is the good thing with DMCA law. When reading more about this, I found that this doesnt depend on the sites, but more on the hosting where these sites are, so when they receive DMCA reports, I guess repeatedly, then they can even shutdown the entire site! I believe a couple of them were shutdown recently probably because they were reported. Its almost sure that the more times a site is reported with DMCA, easier that it is pushed to shutdown. I think we have more power than we think regarding this.
Sinistress
06-21-2016, 11:55 PM
I have never paid for a DCMA, or even had contact with a lawyer. I just often email the site myself with DCMA info and normally the videos are removed within an hour.Which is nice
My real concern is with torrent sites and what to do about those,because that is now where the majority of my content lies.And there's never any info on who to email, or what you can even do about when it winds up there.
nattyfetish
06-22-2016, 12:58 AM
I think it's harder with torrent sites. Try contacting the uploader of the torrent maybe. Torrent sites kinda break the dmca all the time. You can find tv shows, movies,music, everything in there. And people from countries with less strict rules can download them easy. The good thing, if it makes you feel better, is that most torrent sites get shut down. Proably because everybody is tryin to stop the sharing.
xCamLovex
07-06-2016, 05:06 PM
I searched high and low for info on removing my chaturbate vids off affiliate sites. I contacted support via the contact form, and received a copy paste response that had nothing to do with my question.
so who is the contact for DMCA removals?
I remember being sent a guardlex contact email but I literally never got a response.
any advice?
hunniebee
12-06-2016, 06:35 AM
I found two of my sessions online recorded and posted without my authorization, 2 times on Streamate whitelabel sites listed under "Free Videos" and another time with an account impersonation of me on Pornhub. The contact email addresses for their whitelabel sites tryebony.net and shegotass.com are absolutely bogus and it's impossible to issue a proper DMCA takedown notice. Their email address
[email protected] is a fake, and they provide a fake p.o. box address based out of Vegas. I checked the website owner info for tryebony, and their I.P. is based out of Seattle where SM's base is.
I contacted Vanessa and Liz from streamate (are their email addresses still
[email protected] and
[email protected]?) I also reached out to Vanessa on twitter because I know she helps with DMCA issues, she has helped me in the past with other issues, but neither Vanessa nor Liz has answered.
Before the first video of my paid session was posted, got several Top spot gold show requests from the producers, I didn't take the first one and refused the second one on a separate occasion, the next thing I know, a recording of my paid session is posted on their whitelabel and on pornhub (which is the worst site for intellectual property being spread like wildfire, whomever posted the video on pornhub added a tryebony logo to MY video and even went so far as to make a fake account of my with my pictures, I notified pornhub of this).
So, my question is, are they not replying to my mail or assisting me with the removal of my content because SM had a hand in this? Even with Trademarked brands clearly visible in my camfeed, whomever it was had enough enough balls to proceed with their piracy.
When people choose to record our paid sessions, it takes money out of our pockets, cam models are not porn stars and most of us don't want our content stolen and posted online, especially if we do not receive compensation for it.
SoloDesire
12-06-2016, 08:07 AM
The contract we sign with Streamate pretty much states that THEY own all of our live streaming to their site. So unfortunately they can do whatever they want with it. You can opt out of advertising by emailing them but it will cut down on the traffic they send to you...and you still might find your live streams uploaded on other sites. Basically, if you don't want your videos public then don't cam for a big box site who ultimately owns everything you stream through them.
hunniebee
12-06-2016, 08:22 AM
That is very unforntunate. I was under the impression that tradmarked brands can't be used unless you have the expressed written permission of that company. No? I will attempt to email Vanessa about opting out and refrain from using streamate as one of my main sites. My private and exclusive rates there are around $7-$10 per minute so it is obviously the customers arent the ones who've been recording my paid sessions. I will still ask them to politely remove the content and update later. It's hard to get in touch with streamate, the phone number they have available I was told is only for customers and not the models. I know other models have had luck getting their content removed but Has anyone ever had any luck reaching streamate directly via phone? I could never find a contact number for them.
KarmaKitten
12-06-2016, 09:38 AM
I had something similar happen to me but not as bad. I have accounts on several sites but some, like SM, I have yet to stream on. With SM, my profile pic, screen name, and brief bio appeared on one of the sites you mentioned and many others BEFORE I had ever did any streaming.
I have since deleted my old account with them and have signed up for a new account... after fully reading and accepting what their terms of service entails. They basically own your content. I don't know if I'll ever stream with them in the future but since they have high traffic, didn't want to lose the option.
If opting out of advertising is the same as opting out of geoblocking your traffic will go to shit. Weird how that works.
KatyBoleyn
12-06-2016, 11:10 AM
If opting out of advertising is the same as opting out of geoblocking your traffic will go to shit. Weird how that works.
A lot of guys, even with an account, will browse the site first without bothering to log in. If they see something they like, they'll then log in before or after going in your room. How much that effects you is anyones guess, could be 1%, could be 50%.
The same when advertisers and affiliates use your stuff. The client may already have a good account (most porn browsers have already signed up for everything, its a saturation issue), but he'll still see what he likes in the popup or ad profile, which takes him directly to your room and then he logs in to spend. Again, only SM would know the real numbers on that, and it could be anything from 1 to 50%+ of your traffic.
Turning on geoblock and/or getting out of affiliate advertising means only people logged in to the site can see you. Even worse is abusing the external stream feature to sit in private only, where only your logged-in favorites will see you at the bottom of their list.
minniesoporno
12-06-2016, 12:31 PM
The contract we sign with Streamate pretty much states that THEY own all of our live streaming to their site. So unfortunately they can do whatever they want with it. You can opt out of advertising by emailing them but it will cut down on the traffic they send to you...and you still might find your live streams uploaded on other sites. Basically, if you don't want your videos public then don't cam for a big box site who ultimately owns everything you stream through them.
This is why running aorund freaking out your image is on different websites is pretty much useless. running around trying to get your image taken down when you already signed and agreed to the site using your image and feed for their purposes.
If you don't want to be everywhere stick with phone sex no cam, or customs or skype shows.
the minute you jump on a big box site you are exposing yourself to the public and any of their affiliates.
You don't own the image on the big box site you basically go into an agreement renting space on the site and they own the building.
Marina Starr
12-06-2016, 12:41 PM
It doesn't make it right but when you broadcast yourself on the internet your content will be stolen and get posted online no matter what sites you work on. It comes with the territory.
IvyAdams
12-06-2016, 01:16 PM
That is very unforntunate. I was under the impression that tradmarked brands can't be used unless you have the expressed written permission of that company. No? I will attempt to email Vanessa about opting out and refrain from using streamate as one of my main sites. My private and exclusive rates there are around $7-$10 per minute so it is obviously the customers arent the ones who've been recording my paid sessions. I will still ask them to politely remove the content and update later. It's hard to get in touch with streamate, the phone number they have available I was told is only for customers and not the models. I know other models have had luck getting their content removed but Has anyone ever had any luck reaching streamate directly via phone? I could never find a contact number for them.
While it's true that federally trademarked brands are protected, any big box cam site that you sign up for will have you sign over the rights to anything that happens on their platform. That's just the way of it. You do not own your content (and that includes any pictures etc. that you upload onto your profile) you are virtually the brand that is promoting THEIR product while you are on their platform. It doesn't matter if you are using Streamate, Myfreecams, Chaturbate or any other site that you can think of. They will all require this. So technically, the second you sign the agreement, you ARE giving them expressed written permission. If you don't, then you won't be allowed to cam with them. Period.
It's also very common for white labels to create a "pornstar profile" for a model that they are uploading. This is a simple fix, if you send an email to the tube site they will transfer over ownership of those pages to you. I've gotten it done without any fuss on both xvideos and Pornhub.