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GlamourRouge
07-05-2012, 08:46 PM
I just think its really petty and one just screams "HI I'M REALLY INSECURE!" when they worry what other people think of them. If you're happy with yourself, then good. If you're not happy with yourself, then make changes til you are.

But overall, you can't change your body type without some serious body-altering surgery (or perhaps if you're currently overweight). So you just have to live with it, or start a surgery fund.

BringOnTheMen
07-05-2012, 10:22 PM
I just think its really petty and one just screams "HI I'M REALLY INSECURE!" when they worry what other people think of them. If you're happy with yourself, then good. If you're not happy with yourself, then make changes til you are.

But overall, you can't change your body type without some serious body-altering surgery (or perhaps if you're currently overweight). So you just have to live with it, or start a surgery fund.

The one caveat is in the sex industry, looks matter. I see a lot of people on this board tell girls who are SUPER overweight (not like I think I'm overweight, I'm talking 170+ lbs) that all they need is confidence to make money. That is just wrong, and encouraging girls who are going to be getting naked for strangers on a daily basis to be happy with their obese body is just going to promote more BDD and insecurity than just encouraging healthy eating habits. But aside from that, yeah, if you're happy then awesome.

Me and a lot of other girls on this forum are unhappy with our bodies so we're at the gym and making healthy, low cal meals. It's so rude when someone criticizes us for that. Just because someone is fine weighing 130 doesn't mean I am fine with that. But then again, I'm not just bitching about it; I'm actively working out and dieting and slowly losing. And I also have a surgery fund going. If I can't lose all of the weight I want to lose (~20 lbs) by April of next year, then I'll get some lipo. NBD.

michele11
07-06-2012, 07:42 AM
^ Do not get lipo. I had a girlfriend who had a perfect body the whole time I traveled with her was 5' 95-105. She gained a little weight( 8 pounds) and was unhappy and got that smart lipo, I swear she looked worse after. Every girl I know who got lipo( I know around 15) all looked worse a few years after. I saw a prominent plastic surgeon saying he doesn't even perform it anymore because the fat comes back else where and looks ridiculous. One girl I know has tree trunk legs and a weird bulging on top of her sides of ass because that is were the fat came back. That's just what I've seen from it but if I were you I would just do the hcg diet instead if you can't get were you want from diet and exercise. Or hire a trainer that can get you were you want to be.

MyButter
07-06-2012, 09:23 AM
Every girl I know who got lipo( I know around 15) all looked worse a few years after. I saw a prominent plastic surgeon saying he doesn't even perform it anymore because the fat comes back else where and looks ridiculous.

^True this. I've seen this too and yes, I totally agree that it looks ridiculous.

GlamourRouge
07-06-2012, 03:19 PM
The one caveat is in the sex industry, looks matter. I see a lot of people on this board tell girls who are SUPER overweight (not like I think I'm overweight, I'm talking 170+ lbs) that all they need is confidence to make money. That is just wrong, and encouraging girls who are going to be getting naked for strangers on a daily basis to be happy with their obese body is just going to promote more BDD and insecurity than just encouraging healthy eating habits. But aside from that, yeah, if you're happy then awesome.

Me and a lot of other girls on this forum are unhappy with our bodies so we're at the gym and making healthy, low cal meals. It's so rude when someone criticizes us for that. Just because someone is fine weighing 130 doesn't mean I am fine with that. But then again, I'm not just bitching about it; I'm actively working out and dieting and slowly losing. And I also have a surgery fund going. If I can't lose all of the weight I want to lose (~20 lbs) by April of next year, then I'll get some lipo. NBD.

I think its completely different to be unrealistic vs realistic though. And thats what this is about. "Curvy" (I'll probably get shot for writing that, but really its a truthful word) or titty-heavy hip-heavy idk whatever word you people want me to use wanting bodies of runway models and vice versa. It just can't happen, so people are going to extremes trying to get there, pushing their bodies past its limits. Of course, obviously, this is a looks-based industry, and a body-based forum section, but looks can only take you so far in sales.

Obviously the potential newbies are posting because they aren't in the industry and are seeking advice from someone in the industry to see if they can do it too. But IMO its still pointless unless they state which region they live in (or want to work in) and if girls from that region comment because regions are all completely different.

Its just pointless to worry about what other people think of your body. Worrying about what someone else thinks. There will always be someone who thinks you're ugly, thinks you're way too fat, and probably someone who thinks you're way too thin. It should only matter what YOU think assuming you're in a healthy weight range. And assuming you're generally toned if you're a dancer. Aside from that, people put wayyyy too much emphasis on the little things, when in fact they make little difference- especially if one is not willing to attempt change them via surgery. (No, this, and my other comment are not directed at you or even anyone specific).

I'm not criticizing people who being in the gym and eating low cal meals lol. I am doing those same things (well with what I can concerning meds I'm on), and I'm one of the ones who jumps in saying some bodies can't handle more than like 1000 cals a day or it turns to weight gain. And I never said I was "fine" happy, unhappy, whatever with my weight? What does MY weight even have to do with this?? I just don't put a big emphasis on it because I'd rather let a doctor be in control of my body than pushing it past its limits. I'm fine with how I look yeah, but I'm not unrealistic. And I sure as hell am not going to push my body past its limits while under doctor care. And again, what does this even have to do with my body, let alone me?

Dorien
07-07-2012, 09:50 AM
^ Do not get lipo. I had a girlfriend who had a perfect body the whole time I traveled with her was 5' 95-105. She gained a little weight( 8 pounds) and was unhappy and got that smart lipo, I swear she looked worse after. Every girl I know who got lipo( I know around 15) all looked worse a few years after. I saw a prominent plastic surgeon saying he doesn't even perform it anymore because the fat comes back else where and looks ridiculous. One girl I know has tree trunk legs and a weird bulging on top of her sides of ass because that is were the fat came back. That's just what I've seen from it but if I were you I would just do the hcg diet instead if you can't get were you want from diet and exercise. Or hire a trainer that can get you were you want to be.

^
This

Dorien
07-07-2012, 09:54 AM
The kind of surgery I want is not even available: I want to be 6 in. taller. Without heels.

J.D.
07-07-2012, 09:58 AM
I had lipo a few years ago and I am very happy with my results.

Kat w
07-07-2012, 12:47 PM
^^ I just lost 10 lbs and I think I want to lose 10 more but I was actually looking at Dr. Johnson in Dallas for lipo. Am I remembering correctly that he was your lipo guy JD?

Sorry, threadjack.

tempest666
07-07-2012, 07:14 PM
I think lipo, like any other surgery should be researched thoroughly. I am considering it but only as a last resort.

J.D.
07-07-2012, 09:10 PM
^^ I just lost 10 lbs and I think I want to lose 10 more but I was actually looking at Dr. Johnson in Dallas for lipo. Am I remembering correctly that he was your lipo guy JD?

Sorry, threadjack.

Yep! I can hook you up with a really good price, let me know, I will put you in contact with my guy in Dallas that runs that practice.

J.D.
07-07-2012, 09:11 PM
^^ I just lost 10 lbs and I think I want to lose 10 more but I was actually looking at Dr. Johnson in Dallas for lipo. Am I remembering correctly that he was your lipo guy JD?

Sorry, threadjack.

Yep! I can hook you up with a really good price, let me know, I will put you in contact with my guy in Dallas that runs that practice.

Kellydancer
07-07-2012, 09:38 PM
The one caveat is in the sex industry, looks matter. I see a lot of people on this board tell girls who are SUPER overweight (not like I think I'm overweight, I'm talking 170+ lbs) that all they need is confidence to make money. That is just wrong, and encouraging girls who are going to be getting naked for strangers on a daily basis to be happy with their obese body is just going to promote more BDD and insecurity than just encouraging healthy eating habits. But aside from that, yeah, if you're happy then awesome.

Me and a lot of other girls on this forum are unhappy with our bodies so we're at the gym and making healthy, low cal meals. It's so rude when someone criticizes us for that. Just because someone is fine weighing 130 doesn't mean I am fine with that. But then again, I'm not just bitching about it; I'm actively working out and dieting and slowly losing. And I also have a surgery fund going. If I can't lose all of the weight I want to lose (~20 lbs) by April of next year, then I'll get some lipo. NBD.

Agreed. I have seen some way too large newbies post and I want to be blunt and tell them they are too fat to dance. However I can't find myself to be mean so I'll just tell them to lose weight. The reality is in most clubs you have to have a great figure. What is considered great varies, but I am a bit on the curvy side (large chest, but small hips and butt)and this was perfect some clubs, too fat in others, and still others wanted me to have more butt.

I have worked in clubs with a few larger girls and for the most part many customers made fun of them. I'll never forget being on stage while the other three dancers were heifers and these guys came in, looked at me and said "why do they only have one girl?" as they walked out.

J.D.
07-07-2012, 10:25 PM
^^^^ Someone's gotta be the bitch and tell those newbies to sit this one out on the bleachers!

tempest666
07-08-2012, 02:07 AM
My plan: Bust my ass using BOTM's treadmill tips, Level III Paleo diet, ab workouts galore. If I don't see any results by Sept, I'm going under the knife.

sammii
07-08-2012, 02:17 AM
My plan: Bust my ass using BOTM's treadmill tips, Level III Paleo diet, ab workouts galore. If I don't see any results by Sept, I'm going under the knife.
I'm going to try her treadmill tips tomorrow. Can't wait.

Naida
07-08-2012, 03:43 AM
I think the issue is gender dialect. To guys, words like "thick" and "curvy" are compliments. In woman-speak, they're words that have been stolen by fat chicks to make themselves feel better about themselves. [I'm sorry, but you're not "curvy" if you don't know which curve is your tit!] 36-24-36 (and similar type measurements, give or take a few inches on either top or bottom) is what "curvy" really is.

The comments I get about my weight are always what bugs me, far more than my actual appearance. It's always one extreme or another. I weigh 125-130lbs, I get asked if I'm pregnant all the time (I gain weight proportionately over most of my body, with the exception of my belly. It's like 10lbs will be evenly distributed everywhere else, while the other 10lbs parks it on myself on my abdomen.). I weigh 100lbs (which is a healthy and pretty attractive weight for me; a more noticeable booty and C cups) and people accuse me of being anorexic if I wear anything other than a bikini! Some girls I've worked with when I was 100lbs have even accused me of being a coke/meth addict to stay thin. I can be perfectly happy with my size/shape 90% of the time, then some bitch has to be rude.

michele11
07-08-2012, 08:27 AM
My plan: Bust my ass using BOTM's treadmill tips, Level III Paleo diet, ab workouts galore. If I don't see any results by Sept, I'm going under the knife.

Seriously try the hcg diet. My gf who was the one I was talking about who had tree trunk legs with lipo looked the best she ever did when she did that diet. She could not get hired at ricks in ny , came back with me and she looked better than I've ever seen her. If she had kept up healthy eating after she would have been good but she didn't. They didn't even reccognize her at ricks th manager had to ask her why it said terminated in the computer. That's how good shw looked. Lipo did not do that for her and I hear a few people saw they were happy with their lipo but then a year later they are taking diet pills and on a strict diet,working out 6 days a week. ok. I'm telling you the hcg has great results and it's cheaper, it's just harder to keep with.

michele11
07-08-2012, 08:33 AM
I need to reiterate the girl I'm talking about got hired for one shift then the night manager said nope you can't come back , your too flabby, need to lose 15 pounds and you hair and makeup look like shit. When she came with me( 5 months later) he hired her and asked her why it said terminated in the system and she told him what he said to her and she was honest and said I really wanted to work here so I worked really hard on what you said " good job" and continued to go over the paper work with her. Ok that clarifies the story.

Flickdreams
07-08-2012, 09:55 AM
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/specials/weirdflorida/blog/2012/06/cops_400pound_woman_sat_in_the.html Don't you wanna see this naked }:D

Any latecomers to this thread, MUST check out the comments in this link. rofl

DesuvsDeath
07-09-2012, 10:26 PM
Seriously try the hcg diet. My gf who was the one I was talking about who had tree trunk legs with lipo looked the best she ever did when she did that diet. She could not get hired at ricks in ny , came back with me and she looked better than I've ever seen her. If she had kept up healthy eating after she would have been good but she didn't. They didn't even reccognize her at ricks th manager had to ask her why it said terminated in the computer. That's how good shw looked. Lipo did not do that for her and I hear a few people saw they were happy with their lipo but then a year later they are taking diet pills and on a strict diet,working out 6 days a week. ok. I'm telling you the hcg has great results and it's cheaper, it's just harder to keep with. No offense... but do you even know what this diet is? Because you're telling girls to go on a diet where you starve yourself and take hormones... Seriously. You're only supposed to eat, like, 500 calories per day... that's why everyone gets thin on it... that's why most people gain the weight back once they're off it. Study after study says there are a bajillion health risks and no proof of long-term weight loss. Lipo > starving yourself, imo.

J.D.
07-09-2012, 10:57 PM
By the way, lipo is by NO means a way to lose weight.... only to reshape stubborn areas of your body, that's it. If you think you are just going to get all over lipo and look good, I would disagree. I know when I gain weight, I gain everywhere, including my face, hands, etc. So I would recommend losing as much as possible naturally, then going in for lipo for the stubborn pockets of fat. You will not look skinnier from lipo, you will just make changes to the actual shape of your body, you won't be skinnier overall. I still think lipo is great and I want more of it!

tempest666
07-10-2012, 01:19 AM
Oh shit I didn't know it was a hormone diet. I just figured it was another low carb diet.

DesuvsDeath
07-10-2012, 01:55 AM
^No. You inject yourself with a hormone found in pregnant women (or take drops of it) and then you only eat 500 calories a day for, like, a month.
It's a glorified version of an ED.

GlamourRouge
07-10-2012, 02:03 AM
It's a glorified version of an ED.

Body Business is a glorified version of an ED TBH lol

DesuvsDeath
07-10-2012, 02:24 AM
^MOST of BB seems fairly healthy, really. At least I don't NORMALLY see anyone advocating eating 500 calories or less and pretending it's a healthy, effective, normal diet. There are a few girls who under-eat a bit... but no one openly starves themselves/purges and most people seem to get in a normal number of calories and work out a normal amount, look good, feel good, ect. I don't see where there's really an issue with their level of food consciousness given that their income is reliant upon their physical appearance.

Idk. I've SEEN ED sites... and to me, there's a marked difference between them and BB.

BringOnTheMen
07-10-2012, 02:32 AM
There's a big difference between restricting and having an ED. I think anyone who automatically labels someone who is temporarily restricting as someone who has an ED does a lot of harm to girls that actually have EDs. I don't see *any* ED stuff in BB, although I do see some restricting techniques that don't seem healthy or seem just plain silly. My eating habits have been called unhealthy/borderline ED sometimes but ironically, my restrictive days are my healthiest days. I get so many nutrients from spinach, asparagus, fruits, almond milk, raw salmon, etc, and when I stick to eating foods like that I usually end up eating 800-1000 calories, which is perfectly fine for my body type. I have so much energy, I sleep wonderfully, I'm able to study longer, my life is just so much better. Yet I've been called anorexic here when I post what I eat and it seems people prefer everyone else to eat 2000 calories, even if it's just processed junk and sugar. Eating 2000 calories literally makes my body and mind depressed and I can't function. That's why I like the BB ban on ED stuff, because people are too quick to call others anorexic and it just hurts girls who actually are anorexic.

/end rant.

MyButter
07-10-2012, 05:27 AM
^No. You inject yourself with a hormone found in pregnant women (or take drops of it) and then you only eat 500 calories a day for, like, a month.
It's a glorified version of an ED.

Holy shit that sounds so unhealthy.

J.D.
07-10-2012, 06:57 AM
There's a big difference between restricting and having an ED. I think anyone who automatically labels someone who is temporarily restricting as someone who has an ED does a lot of harm to girls that actually have EDs. I don't see *any* ED stuff in BB, although I do see some restricting techniques that don't seem healthy or seem just plain silly. My eating habits have been called unhealthy/borderline ED sometimes but ironically, my restrictive days are my healthiest days. I get so many nutrients from spinach, asparagus, fruits, almond milk, raw salmon, etc, and when I stick to eating foods like that I usually end up eating 800-1000 calories, which is perfectly fine for my body type. I have so much energy, I sleep wonderfully, I'm able to study longer, my life is just so much better. Yet I've been called anorexic here when I post what I eat and it seems people prefer everyone else to eat 2000 calories, even if it's just processed junk and sugar. Eating 2000 calories literally makes my body and mind depressed and I can't function. That's why I like the BB ban on ED stuff, because people are too quick to call others anorexic and it just hurts girls who actually are anorexic.

/end rant.

I totally get this. I have people on here and IRL that tell me I'm a nutrition nazi and that I need to lighten up on how "restrictive" (although I don't see it this way at all, restrictive in the sense that most of America hasn't caught up yet) my diet is and how disciplined I am not to cheat, like when out at restaurants. They all kind of look at me crazy when ordering out somewhere..... I'm like Hello! It's your body! You are putting these things directly into your body, don't you care what is in them?!? Your stomach should never be a wastebasket! I don't put trash in my body, and that's exactly how I view fast food and processed crap, it's like I would be better off munching on a piece of cardboard then that poison. But, like I said, our mentality on nutrition and health is seen by many as an ED unfortunately, people just haven't caught up and evolved yet. We will be getting the last laugh when we don't have high blood pressure and diabetes later on in life like 95% of America!

michele11
07-10-2012, 07:16 AM
^No. You inject yourself with a hormone found in pregnant women (or take drops of it) and then you only eat 500 calories a day for, like, a month. It's a glorified version of an ED. That diet has been around for like 50 years....people were doing it in the 70's and the people I know who did this had no ill effect. It's a tool and you are only suppose to do it for 4-6 weeks. It's no worst than all you girls taking diet pills that can cause heart attacks and dieting on really low calorie diets for months at a time . I've read all you girls who want to lose weight saying you would do unhealthy thing ti obtain it.....starving yourselves, killing yourseves i someone compared you to that girl in te pic that was refered to a curvy. It's not anymore dangerous than the lengths I'm reading some of you girls are going to to lose weight and it's supervised by a physician all diets , pills lipo , taking addeal for weight loss( which I've read here) have side affects, so referring that people look into a legal doctor surpervised form of weight loss shouldn't be a big deal.

michele11
07-10-2012, 07:18 AM
The injectable melatonin thread had great responses and everyone and that is more dangerous than the hcg diet!

michele11
07-10-2012, 07:27 AM
^MOST of BB seems fairly healthy, really. At least I don't NORMALLY see anyone advocating eating 500 calories or less and pretending it's a healthy, effective, normal diet. There are a few girls who under-eat a bit... but no one openly starves themselves/purges and most people seem to get in a normal number of calories and work out a normal amount, look good, feel good, ect. I don't see where there's really an issue with their level of food consciousness given that their income is reliant upon their physical appearance. Idk. I've SEEN ED sites... and to me, there's a marked difference between them and BB. I've had friend who've had good results with no ill effects from it. I never advocated it was healthy but it's supervised by a doctor, that's all I said.You guys need to do research on whatever weight loss options you chose.

MyButter
07-10-2012, 07:44 AM
The injectable melatonin thread had great responses

Hahaha true this.

dresden
07-10-2012, 09:39 AM
OMG! I want that curvy womans outfit...

Kat w
07-10-2012, 01:47 PM
It bugs me when people equate restricting to anorexic behaviors. Eating disorders are usually about feelings and emotions that come out through restricting. Restrictive eating caused by healthy motivations is totally different IMO.

tempest666
07-10-2012, 02:24 PM
Let's just wait and see how July goes for me busting my ass.... I'm gonna start with some light weights tonight.

michele11
07-10-2012, 02:35 PM
It bugs me when people equate restricting to anorexic behaviors. Eating disorders are usually about feelings and emotions that come out through restricting. Restrictive eating caused by healthy motivations is totally different IMO.

An anorexic is someone who eats tissue paper to fill up as to not eat and eats like a handful of grapes a day. I know a girl who died from this in high school. No one in this thread to me has these kind of behaivors that I read or know of. Who' saying people here are anorexic?

BringOnTheMen
07-10-2012, 03:08 PM
An anorexic is someone who eats tissue paper to fill up as to not eat and eats like a handful of grapes a day. I know a girl who died from this in high school. No one in this thread to me has these kind of behaivors that I read or know of. Who' saying people here are anorexic?Sometimes it seems like the vast majority of SW is calling the rest of us anorexic.

DesuvsDeath
07-10-2012, 03:30 PM
That diet has been around for like 50 years....people were doing it in the 70's and the people I know who did this had no ill effect. It's a tool and you are only suppose to do it for 4-6 weeks. It's no worst than all you girls taking diet pills that can cause heart attacks and dieting on really low calorie diets for months at a time . I've read all you girls who want to lose weight saying you would do unhealthy thing ti obtain it.....starving yourselves, killing yourseves i someone compared you to that girl in te pic that was refered to a curvy. It's not anymore dangerous than the lengths I'm reading some of you girls are going to to lose weight and it's supervised by a physician all diets , pills lipo , taking addeal for weight loss( which I've read here) have side affects, so referring that people look into a legal doctor surpervised form of weight loss shouldn't be a big deal. Oh you're only supposed to starve yourself for 4-6 weeks? Oh that's SO MUCH BETTER!! PS: You're criticizing people for doing unhealthy things like saying they'd starve themselves... while telling them to try a diet where the point is to starve yourself. So which is it? Is starving yourself okay or not? Or is it only okay when YOU tell us to do it? Do you even understand what you're telling people to do? Or are you REALLY just telling us to try this great starvation diet based on the fact that your friend lost weight while she was on it... even though you say she GOT FAT AGAIN AFTER without understanding that that's what ALWAYS happens with starvation diets?

GlamourRouge
07-10-2012, 03:53 PM
I don't think anyone even mentioned the word anorexia. In fact, I doubt hardly anyone who posts in this section is anorexic (from what I've seen) as you need to have a BMI like 15 or below to be diagnosed as an anorexic. And that's certainly not the people whose pics I see posted on SW (no, I'm not calling anyone fat before anyone takes it that way). Otherwise youd be bulimic, but that usually involves throwing up, which no one own here states they do. There are MANY eating disorders and eating disorders go way beyond anorexia or bulimia. Eating disorders have to do with obsessing over food- every last little thing you consume, controlling the specific amount you put in your body, and sometimes having body dysmorphic disorder.

I see people post on here like OMG I HAD A PIECE OF CANDY THIS WAS A FAIL DAY OMG OOMG OMG IM GOING TO WORK OUT SOOOO HARD TOMORROW!! Or people who are so bent on thinking they can change their body shape from curvy to runway model, which is literally IMPOSSIBLE unless they literally do become anorexic. Or people who ESPECIALLY have orthorexia nervosa (which seems to be HUGE on SW), polyphagia (sp?), anorexic thoughts and mannerisms but not actions, binge eaters, and a ton who would have an eating disorder classified as not otherwise specified. I just see a lot of skewed body image on here, and thats what I was referring to. And you can give the whole "but we're strippers! we have to be thin thin thin!!!" but that doesn't mean its any less of an eating disorder.

DesuvsDeath
07-10-2012, 04:01 PM
^I don't really think it's orthorexia... people here are obsessed with ALL things perceived to be unhealthy. Hence why every thread ends in "put coconut oil on it." I don't think 'food issues' or BDD really count as ED's either... ED's tend to completely run people's lives... while girls here tend to fixate more than average... most don't seem to be SO CONSUMED that it's destroying relationships and such... as eating disorders are prone to doing. I think a lot of it is exaggerated bitching and for most people "OMG I HAD A PIECE OF PIZZA I'M GOING TO WORK OUT SO HARD TOMORROW" is just a way of comforting themselves for slacking off/bitching about what they did.

GlamourRouge
07-10-2012, 04:07 PM
^^^

I'm pretty sure a lot of people are serious. Or why else would they post it? If its posted, I'm assuming it came from their head and was a thought, or if not, its them projecting an image of themselves that they want others to see. So I guess theres just lots of people with actual eating disorders, or a lot of people who want others to think they have one then. And the latter is basically just as destructive as the former, so its pointless. And its not just orthorexia, but others as well. All kind of different ones. I bet Body Business would really fascinate any therapist.

DesuvsDeath
07-10-2012, 04:33 PM
^That's the thing, though. Look at, for example, my mom. Every time I talk to her she's going to get super strict with her eating or work out 10 hours this week or something along those lines. She doesn't MEAN it... but it makes her feel better to say she's making an effort to get healthy. Same with girls here. A lot of them KNOW they're not going to work out ALL DAY tomorrow... but saying it eases their guilt in not having what they perceive as the ideal stripper body.
I think THAT'S what is behind 50-75% of the ED-esque posts on SW. That and it's girls who see all these super hot, super thin dancers and rather than be like "Yeah, I'm a chubby stripper and yesterday I ate a box of donuts and skipped my workout"... they'd rather put up a front exaggerating how hard they DO work in effort to fit in.

It's obvious a lot of what gets posted isn't happening because girls who post that they eat 1k calories a day and burn 600 at the gym aren't dropping a single pound or inch for months at a time. It's all just roleplay.

And even when someone DOES engage in ED behaviors there could be an underlying cause. I know someone who suffers from a disorder in which she regularly feels the need for self-harm/mutilation. For her... throwing up food or starving for days is just a less-obvious-than-cutting-yourself form of self mutilation.

ChefKitty
07-10-2012, 04:52 PM
I was really trying to remain a casual observer on this but considering how far off on a tangent we've become, and subsequently this thread is getting more views, I figure I should throw in my 2cents.

Anybody can make poor decisions when it comes to eating. Anyone can try any diet and because a lot of these diets are unnatural for your body and/or your lifestyle, it usually won't last long. That is a normal course of action. From there you would either stop the diet and resort to a healthy lifestyle change probably including balanced diet and exercise, getting into your ideal shape, or you give up and live with your body as it is whether you have wjat you deem and extra 2 lb or an extra 50 lb.

I personally have had disordered thoughts my whole life. My mom taught me to suck my stomach in when I was 8 years old. She would force me to go on 10-mile hilly runs with her and I would cry and fall way behind her and it would piss her off. These and other things got me this mindset that being slim is the solution to any issue. [Queue disordered thought: IF I LOSE TEN LB, PEOPLE WILL LIKE ME BETTER]

So i'd grown up conditioned to believe I was fat, in the 7th and 8th grade I followed the adkins diet with decent success, without any clue that preteens don't necessarily need to diet.

Fast forward to last year, a close friend of mine showed me how to make myself throw up. Learning this became my solution very quickly to most problems. For quite a while I did this after every meal, it was a fun game and I felt like I figured out the secret. Id spent so long feeling this guilt and desperation any time I felt full, but now, now I had the "easy button" and I could make that negative feeling go away. So between restricting and throwing up the meals that I did eat, I lost weight and further reinforced that everything was working.
Then, I started eating things just to throw them up. If I was starving I would eat a little something, throw up, hunger went away. THEN, I would do that if I was bored. Or sad. Or stressed. I've been on an eating disorder forum and knew certain precautions to take to limit the negative side effects of restricting and especially purging. Still thinking this was just a trick I'm doing to lose weight.
Then funny things started happening. For one, everyone commented on how great I looked. They'd ask how I did it. I'd say I watch what I eat (as I'm flushing it down the toilet) and id been exercising (jumping jacks to mix up the food in my stomach to purge easier). Then, I could feel my teeth getting rougher (the enamel wearing away) and parts of my gums receding. I started getting headrushes every time I stood up, once in a while if I got out of bed too quickly I would just fall over unconscious. Sometimes id be at the toilet after purging and just lay on the floor, too weak to get up for 10-20 minutes.
The only thing that really bothered me was my teeth and I made changes to protect my enamel.
Purging had become a habit for me and if I couldn't get the meal out, or if I didn't get to go even try to throw up, I felt like crying.

I have a normal BMI. I don't purge nearly as much now partly because I'm feeling better about my weight, partly because I don't have as much privacy now so I'm forced to think ahead or just tough it out. However, it still is a solution for any of my various stresses and sorrows.

So here's the difference between poor eating choices and an actual disorder.
The poor choices are something most of us try at some point or another. Generally we realize they are unhealthy, ineffective, or in the very least difficult to adhere to. But we encourage each other to try it.
Disorder is a monster in your head that punishes you when you eat like a normal person. Whether you act on your disordered thoughts or just let them internally torture you. One big tip-off that you may have a problem is if a person says to you "you have a beautiful body" and you disagree, don't believe them, or assume they mean otherwise. Compliments start to hurt. You see your weight and bmi numbers go down but you don't feel like you're healthier.

And I don't eat tissue paper, or a handful of grapes a day, I almost never binge. Most people will never know I have an eating disorder unless I tell them. So don't assume you're just smart enough to catch an eating disorder. It's not that hard to hide it.

michele11
07-10-2012, 05:59 PM
Oh you're only supposed to starve yourself for 4-6 weeks? Oh that's SO MUCH BETTER!! PS: You're criticizing people for doing unhealthy things like saying they'd starve themselves... while telling them to try a diet where the point is to starve yourself. So which is it? Is starving yourself okay or not? Or is it only okay when YOU tell us to do it? Do you even understand what you're telling people to do? Or are you REALLY just telling us to try this great starvation diet based on the fact that your friend lost weight while she was on it... even though you say she GOT FAT AGAIN AFTER without understanding that that's what ALWAYS happens with starvation diets?
Where did I criticize anyone in this thread? I said there have been many threads on here that promote things that are dangerous and there was a thread before about the hcg diet that had good responses. My one friend is a pig and overeats hence why she lives a vicious cycle of lipo, then the hcg diet. Also she did not starve herself on that diet.....I traveled with her and she ate more than 500 calories and still had good results so you don't have to starve yourself. This is funny too coming from someone who posted a million times in that disaster of a thread" the skeleton thead" and who thanked someone who said they'd kill their self if they would be called curvy because I guess you compare your body to that picture blacksheep called curvy. Lol.

J.D.
07-10-2012, 06:05 PM
Sometimes it seems like the vast majority of SW is calling the rest of us anorexic.


I've found that it's usually the chunky chicks who may not even be strippers!

michele11
07-10-2012, 06:11 PM
^^^

I'm pretty sure a lot of people are serious. Or why else would they post it? If its posted, I'm assuming it came from their head and was a thought, or if not, its them projecting an image of themselves that they want others to see. So I guess theres just lots of people with actual eating disorders, or a lot of people who want others to think they have one then. And the latter is basically just as destructive as the former, so its pointless. And its not just orthorexia, but others as well. All kind of different ones. I bet Body Business would really fascinate any therapist.

Did you ever see the thread " the skeleton thread' if not it's a must read since people in here posted completely conflicting stuff to what they posted here. Also I read were someone here found out about chia seeds from an anorexic website. Oh the hypocrisy is ironic.

tempest666
07-10-2012, 07:43 PM
I just got back from the gym. -_-

DesuvsDeath
07-10-2012, 08:12 PM
Where did I criticize anyone in this thread? I said there have been many threads on here that promote things that are dangerous and there was a thread before about the hcg diet that had good responses. My one friend is a pig and overeats hence why she lives a vicious cycle of lipo, then the hcg diet. Also she did not starve herself on that diet.....I traveled with her and she ate more than 500 calories and still had good results so you don't have to starve yourself. This is funny too coming from someone who posted a million times in that disaster of a thread" the skeleton thead" and who thanked someone who said they'd kill their self if they would be called curvy because I guess you compare your body to that picture blacksheep called curvy. Lol. If she didn't starve herself on the HGC diet she wasn't ON the HGC diet, she was just taking HGC... The hgc diet involves EXTREME caloric restriction... so perhaps you ought to try knowing what the fuck you're talking about before you start talking about it.
And where did you criticize anyone? Are you serious? You literally wrote that before an entire post that's nothing BUT criticism. OFF TOPIC criticism and personal attacks. Which... is just stupid. It doesn't prove your point.
You should've spent the time you took to go through my old posts to look up what you're talking about instead.
Since you can't seem to keep focused... We're talking about the fact that you're telling people "don't starve yourselves! go on this starvation diet, instead!" And then you try to say it's NOT a calorie restrictive diet... have you ever bothered to look it up... EVER???
http://hcgdietinfo.com/HCG-Weight-Loss-FAQ.htm
http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/diet-fitness/diets/hcg-diet2.htm
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/truth-about-hcg-for-weight-loss
Literally every link Google pulls up mentions that it's a 500 calorie diet.

As for your person attacks. Fuck yes I posted in the skeleton thread. Fuck yes I thanked that post. Funny that you read through the skeleton thread but don't seem to remember that I'm, like, the one of the curviest girls on this damn site. 32-24-39 right now, thanks. So if there's ANYONE who has the right to get offended at these fat sows you're all linking and calling thick/curvy... it's me. I have a gorgeous body with a tiny waist, flat stomach, and thick ass and thighs. If I looked like the girls people are posting here... I wouldn't call myself thick... I'd call myself FAT because it's fucking true.| The fact that you all seem to think that only being "a little fat" = thick is offensive and ridiculous.

papillonluvr
07-10-2012, 08:55 PM
http://www.livestrong.com/article/317540-how-many-calories-a-day-is-considered-starving/

So according to this, 1200 calories a day is the lowest to go without medical supervision. Anything below that is equated with starvation and should not be done without medical supervision.

This goes along with what my ED Doctor and my ED nutritionist and my ED therapist all told me.

I was bulimic which progressed to anorexia. I was very skinny and unhealthy, and had periods of extreme binging followed by purging and starvation. When I got pregnant with my daughter I thought I could "fix myself" but found myself purging anyways and then got serious help.

Eating Disorders are very mental with the starving, purging, restricting, etc being an outward physical manifestation of what's going on in the person's head.

Case in point-me and that other poster who have eating disorders. Just because we don't show any outwards manifestations of the problem doesn't mean we still don't have those horrible thoughts. I've just learned to generally ignore and repress them. :(

The HCG diet, imho, does seem very eating disordered. However, if you have a REAL doctor and not some quack supervising you....well, I guess I just wouldn't suggest someone with ED problems to go on that diet, but for an otherwise average mentally healthy person....I guess it'd be ok. I certainly wouldn't suggest it to anyone though. It is technically speaking a starvation diet. And that just doesn't seem healthy, no matter how skinny you get. I think most REAL doctors wouldn't suggest it either, imo.

And even at my skinniest, I was still proportioned in such a way that my tits and ass and thighs were still bigger than the rest of me, and I guess...proportionally speaking, I was still "curvy" or "thick" lol.

and a lot of the threads I remember reading some time ago were very eating disordered advice. :( That's gone away a lot though. yay! haha I know that you can only be responsible for you, yadayada, but be careful of the "advice" you give. Unless you know someone in person or very well, you may not know what they're hiding and what your "advice" may trigger. I can only speak for myself, but BB did me few favors when I was way consumed with my ED. I can only imagine what others are pulling from BB.

and now, I'm off to the gym after a very yummy lunch. :D