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dancingdiva1
07-14-2012, 12:56 PM
Being thick is another way of saying your fat. I think it's better to be considered too skinny, then to be considered "thick".

tempest666
07-14-2012, 02:00 PM
My whole rant stems from the misuse of the word "thick" by other groups to justify rampant obesity. Now it has a negative connotation. It's basically telling me that my 7 months of busting my ass at the gym, giving up foods that I love, and other hard work are all for nothing. Basically a big "fuck you" slap on the face. That's why I hate it.

Kellydancer
07-14-2012, 02:06 PM
Tempest I hate when people call me curvy because the fat women took over that word. Once upon a time all of these words meant a woman with a nice figure now it means obese.

tempest666
07-14-2012, 02:08 PM
Tempest I hate when people call me curvy because the fat women took over that word. Once upon a time all of these words meant a woman with a nice figure now it means obese.

It's like a misused symbol. The pentagram for example. Originally it wasn't Satanic but now thanks to a bunch of idiots everyone thinks I'm a Satanist even though I calmly explain the pentagram has to be inverted to even be considered Satanic.

Or even better: for those of you that have met me in person and seen my pictures I have a unicursal hexagram tattooed on my right thigh. It is completely different than the Star of David which is two overlaid triangles. I had some Lebanese club owners in LA flip out on me when I was working there until one of them figured out it wasn't the star of David. -_-

I don't have anything against a little meat on my plate. Just not the whole goddamn buffet!!!!!!!!!

Kellydancer
07-14-2012, 02:37 PM
That's a great way to put it but yep true. Things once meant one thing now another. I like the buffet comment and that is so true.

Djoser
07-14-2012, 04:56 PM
I have worked with Michele11. There's nothing whatsoever wrong with that body. As her prolonged Champagne Room sessions would seem to indicate. If only more dancers looked so good, my job would be much, much easier...

DesuvsDeath
07-14-2012, 05:01 PM
Let me guess, me, BOTM, Desu, Mediocrity?

You mean the people who don't pay nonsensical incorrect bullshit?


Or the people who are open about what they like who constantly have people criticizing their personal opinion for being "wrong" who chose to stand up for themselves rather than let someone act like there's something off with them fire liking what they like?
Because, we all know... Its perfectly okay to be a chubby chaser... But if you only like thin women there's something wrong with you.

GlamourRouge
07-14-2012, 05:14 PM
My whole rant stems from the misuse of the word "thick" by other groups to justify rampant obesity. Now it has a negative connotation. It's basically telling me that my 7 months of busting my ass at the gym, giving up foods that I love, and other hard work are all for nothing. Basically a big "fuck you" slap on the face. That's why I hate it.

Women use it passively agressively half the time, or as a cop out for being obese, but men use it as a compliment. So if a man tells you you're thick then hes saying "oh I like your breasts, ass, and hips that will never go away no matter how much you work out" because its true. Thickness isn't correlated with how much you work out, though it can be if you have a slender lean body type naturally. But most thick women don't and will never.


Or the people who are open about what they like who constantly have people criticizing their personal opinion for being "wrong" who chose to stand up for themselves rather than let someone act like there's something off with them fire liking what they like?
Because, we all know... Its perfectly okay to be a chubby chaser... But if you only like thin women there's something wrong with you.

Hey I'm not the one who pointed it out, but isn't that all exactly what you and others do to other people on this forum? Tell them they are wrong for liking whatever they like (in this thread: thickness, coconut oil, whatever else idk), and then defending it by saying thick is fat (ahem some pictures in here: ), coconut oil is pointless (lol tell that to my ENT and to my perfectly undamaged dark brown to light blonde in 1 day hair), and whatever else? Not just you included in that, but others. Honestly, you and others come off as the close-minded ones. But hey, I'm just agreeing with others I guess, I didn't point these things out. Its not an attack, its an observation.

MyButter
07-14-2012, 05:19 PM
By "nonsensical incorrect bullshit" do you mean somebody else's opinion? Lol

michele11
07-14-2012, 05:35 PM
[QUOTE=Djoser;2377002]I have worked with Michele11. There's nothing whatsoever wrong with that body. As her prolonged Champagne Room sessions would seem to indicate. If only more dancers looked so good, my job would be much, much easier...[/QUOA
Aw Thanks D! Were did that come from? Did I miss something?

Djoser
07-14-2012, 05:42 PM
I saw that someone was trying to say you were underweight at 113, or something ridiculous like that.

michele11
07-14-2012, 05:45 PM
^ Oh, yeah that tarstone dude. Haha.

sammii
07-14-2012, 07:33 PM
I've actually never been called curvy or thick before ... it's surprising because I was kind of fat for awhile. The word "thick" would upset me, but "curvy" wouldn't, because I know my boobs and ass are large in comparison to the rest of my body.

Addison
07-14-2012, 07:54 PM
Hey guys, I have a great idea. Let's all just keep saying the same thing over and over for another 11 pages. Who's down?

SarahTime
07-14-2012, 08:11 PM
Lmfao wow ok I meant like.... CURVY. Not nasty fat flapping all over the place. Really guys? My post was that confusing? Sillies.

If you want to fuck a bag of bones... That's cool, have fun.

I'm going for the curvy girl. ;)

And thanks, Sammii, I'm curvy and I got the big booty thing going on but my stomach isn't all out of whack jiggling when I move. Even when I'm at a size 4 my ass is big and jiggles when my husband pounds me from behind! Lol ;)

I just meant like, curvy in the good way... Mmmmk. :)

BringOnTheMen
07-14-2012, 08:28 PM
Hey I'm not the one who pointed it out, but isn't that all exactly what you and others do to other people on this forum? Tell them they are wrong for liking whatever they like (in this thread: thickness, coconut oil, whatever else idk), and then defending it by saying thick is fat (ahem some pictures in here: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?152825-Post-Pics-of-Voluptuous-Thick-Dangerously-Curvy-Women), coconut oil is pointless (lol tell that to my ENT and to my perfectly undamaged dark brown to light blonde in 1 day hair), and whatever else? Not just you included in that, but others. Honestly, you and others come off as the close-minded ones. But hey, I'm just agreeing with others I guess, I didn't point these things out. Its not an attack, its an observation.

I'm not sure if you were talking about me, but I do try to make a difference between stating that something is my opinion/preference and it's subjective and it's fine if you don't agree, and calling people out on their BS. I prefer girls to be thinner...and that's my opinion and I understand that not everyone agrees. If someone were to post a picture of someone bigger but still looking healthy, I would say its not my preference but she looks good for what she is. But sorry, when I see a picture of a girl who clearly has a waist bigger than 30", has visible fat everywhere, I'm not going to call her "bigger but healthy." and it really bothers me when people call girls who don't have that much fat on them "underweight" when they are just fit.

GlamourRouge
07-14-2012, 09:16 PM
I'm not sure if you were talking about me, but I do try to make a difference between stating that something is my opinion/preference and it's subjective and it's fine if you don't agree, and calling people out on their BS. I prefer girls to be thinner...and that's my opinion and I understand that not everyone agrees. If someone were to post a picture of someone bigger but still looking healthy, I would say its not my preference but she looks good for what she is. But sorry, when I see a picture of a girl who clearly has a waist bigger than 30", has visible fat everywhere, I'm not going to call her "bigger but healthy." and it really bothers me when people call girls who don't have that much fat on them "underweight" when they are just fit.

No, I was not talking about you. Or at least not you specifically. And idk why you're defending all that to me/my quote as I never wrote anything about any of those things...

J.D.
07-14-2012, 10:10 PM
By the way, I don't flip out when someone disagrees with my opinion, whether it's thick vs. fat, coconut oil, whatever. I call people out when they post something unjustified or they can't back it up. People posting all kinds of hippy dippy crazy inaccurate shit about coconut oil, I called them out and disproved their health claims, sorry but someone had to do it.

I personally couldn't give a shit less if someone disagrees with me on this forum, in fact I like to hear other opposite views and opinions. I love certain beauty products and wrote about them on here, and other girls wrote about how they didn't like them, I didn't get offended by that. So I have no idea what you're talking about GlamourRouge.......

GlamourRouge
07-14-2012, 10:42 PM
lol @ everyone assuming I'm talking about them. lol @ everyone assuming I was the one that called them out (not that it matters). I really could care less what other people do. It only looks bad on yourself (not directed at anyone in particular) when you show your true close-minded colors. Just because someone fails to bring it up doesn't mean everyone can't see it.

J.D.
07-14-2012, 10:43 PM
Um, it's not an assumption. You specifically mentioned coconut oil which me and BOTM were just talking about one page ago..... are you okay?

GlamourRouge
07-14-2012, 10:48 PM
Yeah I have used several examples from this thread for the not being able to see other people's point of view argument... And coconut oil is a topic that has come up several times in several different threads where girls have all had different experiences. Just like body types. Different people like different things. And even then, you even said so yourself that coconut oil is mentioned left & right on this forum, so why would coconut oil suddenly be associated with ~*you*~? lol.

Let not sit around and fight about coconut oil? If you love it great, hate it, great! But that doesn't mean everyone will have that experience. While we are on the subject of coconut oil, I can say though, my ENT recommend it to me for a type of oil I can have (for acid reflux), it has anti-inflammatory properties so its great for camming since toy use=irritation, and my hair is 100% undamaged after bleaching it white so I'd say its pretty good at what it does, as per my own experience. But I'm not someone going around and saying its a miracle cure, so I don't get the point of your comment?

J.D.
07-14-2012, 10:48 PM
Um...... what? :loco:

BringOnTheMen
07-14-2012, 11:09 PM
No, I was not talking about you. Or at least not you specifically. And idk why you're defending all that to me/my quote as I never wrote anything about any of those things...

Eh, just because I've definitely called some pictures/measurements/whatever fat and have had people respond saying they were just "healthy and thick." I wasn't really defending myself to you because I don't think you've ever said that to me...just to whoever's reading that's all offended by my posts.

I didnt really think you were talking about me, but even if you were it would be ridiculous for us to argue because our bodies look almost exactly the same IRL Lololololol.

tempest666
07-14-2012, 11:51 PM
Sorry to threadjack my own thread, but remind me that when shopping for gifts for infants they use "teething rings" not "chew toys". Don't ask -_-

DesuvsDeath
07-15-2012, 12:10 AM
Hey I'm not the one who pointed it out, but isn't that all exactly what you and others do to other people on this forum? Tell them they are wrong for liking whatever they like (in this thread: thickness, coconut oil, whatever else idk), and then defending it by saying thick is fat (ahem some pictures in here: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?152825-Post-Pics-of-Voluptuous-Thick-Dangerously-Curvy-Women), coconut oil is pointless (lol tell that to my ENT and to my perfectly undamaged dark brown to light blonde in 1 day hair), and whatever else? Not just you included in that, but others. Honestly, you and others come off as the close-minded ones. But hey, I'm just agreeing with others I guess, I didn't point these things out. Its not an attack, its an observation.
I don't attack one for disagreeing.
Attack them for posting some ignorant ass shit like telling people to go on a starvation diet sure. But otherwise... Never.

It isn't my fault if you all want to get hypersensitive and cry because I disagree with you or because I make fun of the fact that you all seem to think coconut oil can replace any modern medicine under the sun.
It's ridiculous to me and I'm just stating my opinion like everyone else here.

It's nice to know, though, that you're all so intimated by me that you feel attacked by me disagreeing with you. I think that's hilarious and ridiculous. You're all reading way too much into my casual posts. It's a forum. It's not real life. Nothing that happens here matters or should matter or bother anyone. Lol

Anyone who feels attacked by me is being oversensitive and overexaggerating a casual reply with no ill intent. Sorry. Not my problem.

MyButter
07-15-2012, 05:48 AM
^ case in point @ the last two paragraphs, lol. Again with the insults. There are tactful ways to disagree with people and defend yourself in your argument, but this specific group often resorts to name calling, some sort of personal insult usually in the form of suggesting the other person lacks normal intelligence, and gang up tactics. *shrugs* it just doesn't seem like a tasteful method of dealing with people you don't agree with.
Anyhow, my entire point was that seeing as there is a specific group here who doesn't desire any external input, to me, it would make more sense just to start a private group? That way, you wouldn't have to deal with any of the 'nonsensical hippy dippy inaccurate bullshit that is posted on this message board.

MyButter
07-15-2012, 05:57 AM
Alas, this is merely an observation of mine. It really isn't -my- problem if you feel insulted by a simple observation.

MyButter
07-15-2012, 06:52 AM
I personally couldn't give a shit less if someone disagrees with me on this forum, in fact I like to hear other opposite views and opinions. I love certain beauty products and wrote about them on here, and other girls wrote about how they didn't like them, I didn't get offended by that.

This made me lmao.


The way you attempted to redeem yourself using this terrible example was really cute =D

J.D.
07-15-2012, 11:00 AM
Redeem myself to whom? The majority of chicks on this site are overweight pseudo stripper hipsters, or cam girls who couldn't hack it as a stripper (a lot of whom can't strip if they wanted to) These are the girls that trying to justify that fat = sexy. Let's be real, only in a niche market ladies. Like I give two shits.....

There are however a group of girls whose opinions do matter to me, since they've given advice and posted about things that I tried and loved. What's crazy about this site is that I've found more health and beauty tips and advice that were amazing then I would've found on any other forum. I first learned about the paleo diet here, got a ton of healthy recipes, workout tips, a ton of info on BA, lipo, hair extensions, makeup, money making techniques, career transition advice, I could go on and on.

I'm just totally lost...... don't get what you're saying.

When I was new on this site though, I fell for some shit I read on here that was total misinformation, so I just try to call out what I know when I see it. There is a huge difference between posting that eating tablespoons of coconut oil out of the jar will help you lose weight and cure autoimmune disease, posting that dry brushing your skin will make you lose weight and burn body fat, I could go on and on. And it seems to me that most of this is posted by chicks that really have no idea what they are talking about, they just come on here and start acting like a doctor or professional on the subject. It's comical how often these girls contradict themselves also.... "oh, I only eat organic vegan, and use no chemicals, only baking soda and coconut oil to wash myself, but I smoke a pack of marlboro lights everyday" or posting all kinds of information about silicone and how bad it is, contributing to autoimmune disease, then post about considering getting breast implants. LOL. It's irritating knowing that girls are reading this and actually taking it as truth. I ran out and bought Tonalin after reading about here, I wish I could get my $50 back wasted on that.

MyButter
07-15-2012, 11:47 AM
Isn't it logical to assume that a majority of the posts on SW are opinions in the first place though? You're always going to encounter opinions that you don't agree with and of course you or anyone for that matter has every right to disagree with something, but I still don't understand all of the excessive bullying that is also present in posts. I just don't see why see why specific posters find it necessary to be so rude in order to get their points across.

Kellydancer
07-15-2012, 12:14 PM
Opinions are fine, but I think she's talking about when people post opinions and say they are facts. That drives me nuts. Opinions mean you believe (you in general)something, facts mean there is research to back it up (and I don't mean an opinion piece which is an OPINION). Too many posters here will post something then say it's a fact, such as "all men like this (insert something)". Honestly how could anyone know what all men, women, whatever like? Recently someone posted an opinion and presented it as fact when in fact it was their opinion.

Anyway, back on topic but I have no idea where this idea came from that anyone and their mom can be strippers. I have seen how the clubs are hiring lower quality dancers and I can only shake my head. Back at the height of my dancing days many of my coworkers were also models and to me if you aren't hot enough to be a model you shouldn't be dancing. Sorry but I don't want to see fat strippers, I hold strippers to a higher standard of look like I was held up to.

MyButter
07-15-2012, 12:48 PM
I think the point is being missed entirely. Kellydancer is actually the perfect example. Somehow she never resorts to name calling, insults pertaining to intelligence or character, or blatant insolence of any kind (from what i've seen) in her arguments, yet she is able to convey her points. So it obviously -can- be done.

Its just the lack of tact that is frustrating. Why, why, why is it necessary?

BringOnTheMen
07-15-2012, 12:53 PM
I ran out and bought Tonalin after reading about here, I wish I could get my $50 back wasted on that.

Omg me too. That bottle of crap just sits in various places in my place and mocks me. All it does it make my eyes and chin puff up. wtf.

_Avery_
07-15-2012, 12:59 PM
I dunno, I really like Tonalin, I feel it really helped me a lot.
Guess everything effects everyone differently.

Kellydancer
07-15-2012, 01:02 PM
Thanks MyButter. I try not to insult someone else's intelligence but I'm sure I have. I have no problem with someone else having an opinion as long as it's just that and not saying "but I'm right". I just speak from things I've seen (such as a club I worked at that now has some unattractive dancers).

SarahTime
07-15-2012, 01:45 PM
Redeem myself to whom? The majority of chicks on this site are overweight pseudo stripper hipsters, or cam girls who couldn't hack it as a stripper (a lot of whom can't strip if they wanted to) These are the girls that trying to justify that fat = sexy. Let's be real, only in a niche market ladies. Like I give two shits.....


I was only trying to say that curvy = sexy, not fat = sexy. I was talking about a specific body type, and I agree with what another person said, the "BBW's" have hijacked the term "curvy" and now I guess to many people it just simply means fat. I definitely don't think fat is sexy... at all. But I think most people can agree that curves in the right places are sexy.

I don't venture out of camming connection often and this is a remind to me of why.... too many arguments about things that are personal opinions. It's pointless to sit around and be mean to each other because one person thinks one way and another person thinks another way. What is the point? And J.D. I'm not directing this at you, I'm just speaking in general.

_Avery_
07-15-2012, 02:17 PM
too many arguments about things that are personal opinions. .


This. Exactly.
This site is based MAINLY on personal opinions. We all come in here and we pick and choose what information we want to take and use.
What works for one, may not work for another.

All we can do is give our opinions on certain things, and if it works for someone else, GREAT. If not, then move on to the next recommendation/opinion.

No one is "more right"...no one is "more wrong".
We all have our beliefs, our thoughts, our views...there's no point in trying to FORCE someone to agree with you.

Obviously, there are going to be opinions, thoughts we agree with more or take more to heart from certain posters.


Anyway, this thread has really went into a completely different topic lollol
and if anything, at least it's providing a little entertainment :P

DesuvsDeath
07-15-2012, 03:03 PM
There's an "ignore" option for a reason. If me posting my opinion makes you cry so hard, use it.
Thanks, bye.


This entire argument is ridiculous. It's literally "message boards are for people to post their opinions, but don't pat yours because I don't like it."

MyButter
07-15-2012, 03:06 PM
Again. Is it even possible for you to - not- pull out the insult card? Lol, wow. Whatever makes you feel good about yourself I guess.

DesuvsDeath
07-15-2012, 03:17 PM
Quote the insult.
Oh wait. There isn't one; you can't.

Do you even know what an insult is? Go look that shit up and stop complaining about things that aren't even happening.

MyButter
07-15-2012, 03:22 PM
If me posting my opinion makes you cry so hard, use it.


Idk. Just seems unnecessary to me. Lol. Like you are going out of your way to be rude.

DesuvsDeath
07-15-2012, 03:25 PM
I'm not. I'm really not.
I was merely suggesting what I saw as the most logical course of action.

An insult would've started more like "omfg, you dumb whore..." THAT'S an insult. Suggesting you block me is not.
Just to be clear, that's just an example. I'm still not insulting anyone. ;)

MyButter
07-15-2012, 03:31 PM
An insult is defined as speaking to someone with insolence or contempt as per dictionary.com. Lol. The example you used be more along the lines of calling somebody names...oO

DesuvsDeath
07-15-2012, 03:39 PM
I wasn't speaking to anyone with insolence or contempt. Again - you're being oversensitive and imagining something that isn't there.

The point of my example was to demonstrate that if I were going to insult someone... It would start in such a manner as to establish that I'm being rude intentionally.


At this point I'm honestly just wondering if you're really this dense out if you're trying to troll and detail the thread to get it locked or deleted.

MyButter
07-15-2012, 03:54 PM
I really don't think its my imagination, lol. I know you'd probably want evidence, but honestly I'm on my phone right now and I forsee that being a genuine pain in the ass.

I admit I'm the only one complaining about this so maybe you're right in suggesting that I am just oversensitive. On the other hand, if someone were making an observation about myself, I'd do some self reflection.

GlamourRouge
07-15-2012, 03:56 PM
When I was new on this site though, I fell for some shit I read on here that was total misinformation, so I just try to call out what I know when I see it. There is a huge difference between posting that eating tablespoons of coconut oil out of the jar will help you lose weight and cure autoimmune disease, posting that dry brushing your skin will make you lose weight and burn body fat, I could go on and on. And it seems to me that most of this is posted by chicks that really have no idea what they are talking about, they just come on here and start acting like a doctor or professional on the subject. It's comical how often these girls contradict themselves also.... "oh, I only eat organic vegan, and use no chemicals, only baking soda and coconut oil to wash myself, but I smoke a pack of marlboro lights everyday" or posting all kinds of information about silicone and how bad it is, contributing to autoimmune disease, then post about considering getting breast implants. LOL. It's irritating knowing that girls are reading this and actually taking it as truth. I ran out and bought Tonalin after reading about here, I wish I could get my $50 back wasted on that.

I haven't even heard of most of that stuff, so I'm assuming none of it even came from this thread. So why does it even matter if this is a different thread and those people aren't even in this thread? And if it doesn't pertain to you, why do you even care? Obviously you're talking about Avery with Tonalin since I did read that thread, but isn't that still an opinion? A personal experience? Do you take all opinions and experiences as fact or something, and then lash out when you don't have that same experience? That's what it looks like. You come off really bitter when something doesn't work FOR YOU, but works for other people. And then you dismiss their successful experiences as untrue or needing to "call them out" lol.

You're obviously referring to me when talking about silicone & autoimmune disease, and since MY EXPERIENCES seems to bother you much more than they bother me, I will elaborate I guess even though it doesn't matter and no one cares, but its a great example in defense of the paragraph above. YES I thought about getting my Cs enhanced to Ds through saline since I tend to agree with Dr Susan Kolb (board certified PS and researcher who has written a book to back up her claims) who says saline is usually fine unless you have Ankylosing Spondylitis (which I do not have to my knowledge) but (liquid) silicone is often a bad idea bc its often reactive to HLA-B27 & HLA-DR53. The problem with that is YOU NEVER KNOW the outcome of a surgery until after its done, so its a gamble which is why I've been on the fence. And its a gamble I finally opted against as I already have a lot of breast tissue so I did not feel like it was a necessity. Theres a HUGE difference between liquid silicone(all silicones) & textured implant shells(some saline) (absorbable by the body and proven to the linked to lymphoma: ) versus hard smooth silicone (implant shell) which is not absorbable by the body. And of course girls are going to take it as truth, as there are research studies to back it up (in fact I posted them), but of course not everyone will have the same experiences, which is what I think you fail to comprehend. And instead, you lash out or rudely attack others or call their OWN EXPERIENCES false.

Almost any subject matter can be argued each way, but that doesn't make a personal experience or opinion any less of a personal experience or opinion. Yet rude, close-minded, and judgmental will always be rude, close-minded, and judgmental. And I think that is the point several girls on here are trying to convey.

DesuvsDeath
07-15-2012, 04:02 PM
But that's the thing - I don't care about your "observation"... I don't care if you're insulted our offended by me. It's not my problem - it's yours.
I'm not going to change because someone on the intarwebz thinks I sound mean. If I do - great. That probably means fewer people I don't want to talk to anyway are going to annoy me in real life.

MyButter
07-15-2012, 04:04 PM
Well, good for you then :)

GlamourRouge
07-15-2012, 04:09 PM
But that's the thing - I don't care about your "observation"... I don't care if you're insulted our offended by me. It's not my problem - it's yours.
I'm not going to change because someone on the intarwebz thinks I sound mean. If I do - great. That probably means fewer people I don't want to talk to anyway are going to annoy me in real life.

(First that wasn't even written to you, but...) You obviously do care if you reply since you're obviously not trying to help someone out or give another viewpoint. And no one cares if you're mean or rude or whatever, its just common courtesy to be nice. Sometimes people don't even realize they come off a certain way until others try to helpfully point it out. That's been my experience.



Well, good for you then :)

lol, yeah this thread has officially reached the end I think. At least for me.

BringOnTheMen
07-15-2012, 04:27 PM
Obviously you're talking about Avery with Tonalin since I did read that thread, but isn't that still an opinion?

Before I bought the Tonalin I did a search on SW and basically everyone on this site dating back to 2002 has called it the miracle pill with fat loss. I'm pretty sure I can speak for JD when I say it was not just 1 thread or person she was talking about.

I know this is not relevant to the super awesome flame war going on, but I'm so over the thick arguments and I would rather rant about how much Tonalin sucks. Fuck you Tonalin!