View Full Version : New cam site? CamCity.com anyone
annabellz
08-15-2012, 05:08 PM
Also...
Is the $25 per model sign up for agents recruiting still going on as well? Read about this on another forum last night... appears as though agents get $25 per girl and then 10%.
Theres a forum called http://www.moneymakerdiscussion.com, if you sign up there and search for posts with 'camcity' you'll find a bunch including ones with detailed instructions about their agent program- ways they encourage their agents to spam- potential earnings the agents can earn- and many posts containing contradicting information to things that were posted here- including my favorite 'just sign the models up and you never have to deal with them again' so, so much for the added support!
As for the 25$ bonus from what I read to get the bonus the rules are the model needs to:
-Be approved by the camsite
-Complete a full profile with a minimum of 2 image galleries with 7 or more images each
-Log a minimum of 3 cam hours
Pay Periods begin on Mondays at 12:00 AM and End on Sundays at 11:59 PM, Payouts from this period are processed on the following Friday after the period has ended (4 Day Lag)
Payday is the same for both agents and models.
Djoser
08-15-2012, 05:55 PM
thank you again ben.
I present myself as an guy that work with camcity, instead of agency studio or agent, why i do it?
Somehow you wound up with a pink ribbon, indicating you are a female. It's against the rules and will not help you gain credence here. Maybe it was an honest mistake, but if so we need to fix it ASAP.
Many thanks to loveshooks for moving the thread here so that CamCityBen would have a chance to contribute to the thread, and explain how his site works.
Djoser
08-15-2012, 06:22 PM
...So the response of performers is going to come from a defensive and irritated place. It isnt a healthy foundation for dialogue. Flyonthewall, great job continuing that theme (not looking to insult* laurielegs but calling her a diva, emotional, hiding behind a'modeling flag', linking to definitions of words, and methodically crushing all of her arguments) but Im sure CamCity didnt intend for this trainwreck of a thread to be the most active form of advertisement for their site :shrug:
I get adultwebmasters and affiliates get frustrated with performers for a battery of reasons, I see and hear it all the time.... but performers get frustrated as well, with few outlets to talk back - so of course when sites advertise on a site that is supportive to cammodels that is where those frustrations will come out. There will be disagreements about how sites invest and allocate funds, advertise, market, recruit etc bc we all need to earn from this industry and not everyone can agree over the details bc we all have our own interests. It is really that simple, that's the foundation of most threads that go wild b/w models and sites/recruiters. That would be a flyonthewall approach to this discussion.
CamCityBen is trying to put out fires here - he's got a pretty decent handle on it. If you want to make his job harder - I mean, by all means?
*youve edited most of your insults out by the time I wrote this, probably a good move.
Thanks Roast for a great post. An excellent summation of the problem with the failure in communication between men and women in the industry we have seen here in the past.
I missed the insults and presume they were edited out. I deleted the one picture which had no apparent relevance to the thread.
Flyonthewall, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here. Don't fuck up by insulting members in future, or there will be trouble--for you.
The women in the adult industries have been taken advantage of entirely too much in the past, and as Roast has so eloquently put it, this has made open dialogue a difficult proposition at times. It is understandable and most unfortunate, but not an insurmountable problem.
I am really trying to make Industry Insight a place where the men and women in the adult entertainment industry (including webcam sites, passive content sales sites, stripclubs, and other adult business venues) can communicate freely and in a mutually supportive manner. Mutual respect is required for this.
annabellz
08-15-2012, 07:00 PM
Djoser-
I understand and agree with the concept of mutual respect.
So when CamcityBen posts here "We encourage them (the agents) to be proactive and help the girls they have recruited so they build the rapport and help them when they need support."
and then posts in the forum for his agents under the user name of 'Doc' "After I sign up a model what is my job from there?-Your job is complete. Our site and staff will take over from the moment you get the model to sign up through your link or website. You don't ever have to interact with the models nor do you need to make sure they are working or teach them anything. Our staff will train them and we will do our best to make sure they stay working on the site so you will make the most from your efforts."
He lied (and disrespected the entire community) by giving us misinformation about his business practices and I for one am not afraid to call him out on it.
Djoser
08-15-2012, 07:30 PM
I didn't know anything about this forum for his agents.
I have mixed feelings about agents.
Wanted to go beat the hell out of one stripclub agent for putting an ex of mine into a shitty club with a bunch of mob guys once, but I was clearly biased, in that case! That of course has no relevance here, sorry.
CamCityBen
08-15-2012, 07:34 PM
I agree there is no reason to close this thread.
Ben
CamCityModel
08-16-2012, 01:07 AM
girls, i just want to know, you are somehow against me and think i was disrespectful in this thread anytime? just point where i was insulting or doing anything "bad" for any girl here, really i was just trying to put things in place.
if you are against spamming, i am too for sure, i never spammed anything and never will, and i never scammed anybody and never will too.
what you need to understand is that agents and commissions are a normal thing on any job (the way camcity works), if you go to any store, the person selling and showing you the clothes will get a commission when you buy your dress, shoe or whatever. Nobody need to tell you he will be making money when you buy something, its just obvious. The person is working, and getting money of course.
You need to realize that if i wasn't here nobody would know about camcity, alot of questions would be left out with no answers etc..so NOW that you know the so called direct link to register you can do it, but you would be losing nothing registering under my or any site that agents have.
ElianaIsis
08-16-2012, 06:49 AM
Okay let me explain this as clearly as I can using your example of commission based sales.
A salesman selling you a car helps you choose a proper fit of options, mileage, make, and model for a certain price. They have worked for their commission.
An agent who merely advertises to get models to sign up for a brand new site should get some form of reward from the site I agree to that fact. Usually this is a flat fee or a temporary commission. The site chooses to make it a lifetime commission, fine that's their choice.
The issue that evidently you're not getting is the fact that the majority of experienced models, like the veteran members here, will not need your hand holding to get signed up. Are you bringing me paying traffic? No that's the site itself or a white label, not an agent. So the fact is that you would earn 10% off of my hard work based on doing what exactly? This is an issue with the way the site's commissions are set up though, not you directly.
What you're not understanding is the fact that to get more veteran models to even consider signing up for a brand new site their needs to be some sign of paying traffic and great commission structure. Now with the fact that the models who sign up directly don't even get that extra 10% for cutting out the middle man, I won't even consider it. That's all you are is a middle man to take a cut for doing nothing since agents aren't required to do anything besides get girls to the page to sign up.
Did you spam and lie? Yes, you did. Granted you came after the topic was brought up already, but every post of yours was saying that your link was the official link. Bullshit! The official link is the one on the main site where you scroll down and find the information about becoming a model.
As regards to representing the site that's bullshit too. You've already said that you are not an employee, making you an independent contractor. Do you have a say over operations? Can you go into the sites systems and fix a problem yourself? Nope you have to go to somebody else to do that. Guess what the majority of that is through the same tech support models have to contact themselves. It would be like a white label for SM coming in and saying they represent SM, it's laughable.
And lastly your point about nobody would know about the site without you coming in to answer questions about it? We're on the internet all day everyday, if it's out there we will find it. Don't think for a second that we're ignorant even for a second, plus the fact that with the freeloaders we deal with our bullshit meters are very strong.
Call it what you want, agent or studio it's just semantics! It's just that the site chooses not to support independent models who wish to cut out the middle man.
annabellz
08-16-2012, 07:58 AM
Oh my---
I could go on a whole rant about why a model would choose not to work under an agent and work for directly for site, but I'll stick to the topic at hand since this thread is about camcity...
For any model who hasnt been put off by the agents behavior or the fact that the owner is a liar and is considering giving it a go here is another bit of info-
They are a discriminatory site. BBWs or fatties as the agents call them are not necessarily accepted. Same goes for any other non traditional cam girl types. MILFS, alt girls, ethnic girls- basically if you dont have the traditional young/super hot cam girl look your application is subject to Ben and his teams approval. Apparently they dont want to waste their bandwith on girls who they dont think will make them money.
drearea
08-16-2012, 08:08 AM
My final impression:
"Would you love to kick back while the girls that you refer are working hard to earn you money?"
Oh and how adorable. An adult friend finder pop up when I click links on your main page.
Lovely.
Decalyn
08-16-2012, 08:41 AM
Oh and how adorable. An adult friend finder pop up when I click links on your main page.
And that's me avoiding that site like the plague. I'm on it, too.
I refuse to work on sites full of popups. I care too much about my patron's experiences.
drearea
08-16-2012, 08:50 AM
And that's me avoiding that site like the plague. I'm on it, too.
I refuse to work on sites full of popups. I care too much about my patron's experiences.
I have never even encountered a cam site with pop-ups, this is all so bizarre.
Why are you trying to redirect traffic to adultfriendfinder? I mean, isn't a pop-up for traffic re-direct?
Yep, I know nothing about the internet XD so I really need some answers.
Decalyn
08-16-2012, 08:52 AM
Why are you trying to redirect traffic to adultfriendfinder?
Because they get paid to do it. That's how advertising works.
The fact that they're willing to LOSE traffic to make a little advertising revenue says a lot about their motivation.
KristylJayne
08-16-2012, 09:04 AM
I would so not sign up for this company. Liars and thieves.
Djoser
08-16-2012, 09:06 AM
You need to realize that if i wasn't here nobody would know about camcity, alot of questions would be left out with no answers etc..so NOW that you know the so called direct link to register you can do it, but you would be losing nothing registering under my or any site that agents have.
Whoa CCM. Don't make the fatal mistake of underestimating the intelligence and resourcefulness of the webcam models here. I'm quite sure you are not the only reason people here know about CamCity.
Furthermore, you are not allowed to post using a pink ribbon if you are a guy. So stop doing it, and either re-register properly, or take steps to have the ribbon color changed by sending a PM to the administrators of the site.
Djoser
08-16-2012, 09:13 AM
I have never even encountered a cam site with pop-ups, this is all so bizarre.
Why are you trying to redirect traffic to adultfriendfinder? I mean, isn't a pop-up for traffic re-direct?
Yep, I know nothing about the internet XD so I really need some answers.
LiveJasmine has popups all the time on other sites, as well as Streammate. I don't know if that is what you mean by 'a cam site with popups'.
Quite frankly I don't understand how it could be helping them get new members, not only due to the extreme annoyance factor, but also due to the utter lack of physical appeal so frequently found in the models shown in the popups.
drearea
08-16-2012, 09:17 AM
I don't work livejasmin but I know for a FACT you will NOT get a pop up leading you to another site from Streamate's homepage. AKA, Streamate is not redirecting traffic off site just for the profit of the clicks.
Streamate and LiveJasmin may have pop ups LEADING PEOPLE TO THEIR SITE (not exactly wonderful advertizement either) which is bringing IN traffic.
If you click links on camcity.com you get pop ups to adultfriendfinder. If you click links on Streamate you get taken to the page you intended to go to without a pop up.
Djoser
08-16-2012, 09:25 AM
Ahh I see--thanks for clarifying that.
SarahTime
08-16-2012, 03:18 PM
I don't work livejasmin but I know for a FACT you will NOT get a pop up leading you to another site from Streamate's homepage. AKA, Streamate is not redirecting traffic off site just for the profit of the clicks.
Streamate and LiveJasmin may have pop ups LEADING PEOPLE TO THEIR SITE (not exactly wonderful advertizement either) which is bringing IN traffic.
If you click links on camcity.com you get pop ups to adultfriendfinder. If you click links on Streamate you get taken to the page you intended to go to without a pop up.
When I'm on camcity I get pop ups to "cam city date"... very annoying.
wannabe19800
10-12-2012, 08:00 PM
only 3models online?