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Well
07-08-2012, 02:57 PM
What??????? lol are you serious? Is that why a bald guy is still rocking that vag bush on the back of his head? That fucking little piece of hair? Because he doesn't want to be considered bald even though about 96% of his hair is umm gone! Lol And fat? Are you serious? A bald, toothless big girl will get more dick than the hottest man getting pussy. And she'll even get paid for it too! You seriously forget the sexual drive difference between men and women.

Don't you know guys with hair shave their heads? I am one of them. I don't shave everyday though it's a pain and my skin is too sensitive.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-08-2012, 03:07 PM
Should I go into dick problems as men age??? So what if he looks ok bald lets get the stats out.



Just google it...there are numerous articles/blogs stating how men age better than women. I dont believe fully, I just believe there is more expected of women than men. A man gets wrinkles, hes distinct. A woman gets wrinkles, shes an old hag. Or youll read "Men age like wine, woman age like milk." Once again I dont believe that fully since everyone ages at a different rate based on genetics, lifestyle, diet, exercise, environment, etc. Beauty does come in all ages...its also subjective. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." As I stated, I feel men and women look best in the 18-30 range. Its their prime and peak. After that imo its downhill...well at least in the looks department. Remember this is my opinion, Im not passing it off as fact.


Actually this is just more bullshit put out in society so old dick still gets inside a pussy at some point. Seriously look at sugar daddy sites and you'll have a hard time finding someone hot. They are there but most men don't age well. The ones that do actually work out the same as women do. They go to the gym and keep those abs in top form. This is no different then a woman who does the same. Also if a man is looking for just sex, it's harder to do if you are not attractive physically and are broke on top of it. If it was so easy to get ass at any age for a man... again : NONE OF US WOULD HAVE JOBS. I really shouldn't have to repeat this again since have you forgotten the site you're on? Last time I checked this isn't yelp.

A man will pay one way or the other. Either he's paying for dinner and trying talk a girl out of her undies (usually attractive). He's trying the "lets be friends bullshit" ( ugly guy that sticks around hoping for some "left over pussy-snacks" after a break up). The guy that has it all, so he's not working hard at all (buys condoms lol). The one that has money but no looks/no conversational skills( escort/cam model/stripper/phone sex).

Remember a man's ego will not really allow him to say " wow no girls want to fuck me". It's just no cool to be honest with oneself. Now pay someone to fuck you and problem solved. How many women do you really see having to do that? It happens of course but it's rare. Even male cam models make most of their business off of men.

Remember society is dominated by men so they need to tell women yet again that their shit doesn't stink. If we really look into a sexuality book and stop with bullshit polls and blogs we can learn that after a certain age men's dicks don't even work so getting pregnant can happen but getting it up is a feat in itself. Even camming most of the men that take me private now don't have working cocks! Yet they will tell me "we should meet" as if some how a small limp dick hidden under a few mounds of flesh while staring into hairy double Ds is supposed to make me jump in my car and speed to their door. Ohh and they are usually 45-70. What was that again about age? There are even some younger men in their 20s that have issues with cumming under 2 mins or not getting it up. These problems are alot more common than society would have you believe. Why do you think the invention of the blue pill was created? It was to get men back in the game or more like keep them there before it's over.


Fact: 1 out of 3 men suffer from premature ejaculation
Another study showed out of 500 men the median time for a man to ejaculate was 5.4 minutes during intercourse. (So glad I cam lol)
2% of these men actually came between 60-90 seconds after penetration.

Another study of 1587 men showed that 1380 were not suffers of PE because they were able to hit a whopping 7.3 mins. Wow.
but the others 208 men lasted about 1.8 minutes so they were deemed PE sufferers.

Also what is even more shocking is that age range where this is the highest problem wasn't what I initially thought. It was between 30-39.

Fact :Also 50% of men aged 40-70 have issues with Erectile Dysfunction
Fact 70% of men over 70 will have ED.

What was that again?

So guys looking great is nice but if they can't fuck properly who cares? Take a picture and put it on the wall.
Does he have money? Hi my name is.....

Women 40+ have the sexual libido and drive of a 25 year old man.... Ummm what was that again? Now I see why these two are in some ways better matched.
If you're a 19 year old girl with one sex partner and you meet a 34 year old man with premature ejaculation issues would you be able to tell the difference? Nope. I surely couldn't since I thought every guy came in under 2 mins. It wasn't until a few years later did I realize why I was targeted by guys with cock issues. Can't feel like you're missing something if you have no one to compare it too. Just another reason why some guys like girls super young.

So good looks will get a guy in the door but money , personality, and decent "stamina" will keep him there. Still a woman will take a lesser (not ugly) guy with money over a hot guy without. Looks fade for both sexes so hopefully that hot guy has some money later in life for if he doesn't he's going to be seriously pissed off when he starts resembling Santa and pussy is out of his reach. Maybe he'll get lucky on Christmas morning.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-08-2012, 03:11 PM
And there's cougars sites. And what do these young guys want? SEX and more sex without spending any or little money lol
If you're talking about online a lot of them do. Not just men but women too. Dating sites getting so popular but guess what it's hard to find someone that's honest enough.

True but these women don't have to lie they know why they are there. They know what they want. But if you take both the hot sexy men and the cougars and tell them to escort the women would be able to live off escorting, the men would only make a real living if they actually changed their sexual orientation. Men pay whether you have two holes or three:) Just the way it is.

Kellydancer
07-08-2012, 03:11 PM
Ohh and don't let me even get started on age. On most of those sugar daddy sites where being fat, ugly and beyond the age of most women there is of little concern , yet the men still LIE THEIR ASSES OFF. If everyone wants to fuck a fat guy why say " a few extra lbs" when that's about how much their bones weigh. Why say you're 35 when you're actually 55? Why use a picture of someone that you supposedly look like when the closest you come to that picture is if someone kicked you in your face with a boot. Really? Ha! You forget how men realize the truth about age when it comes to them. They are hiding their nature of wanting what they aren't. You really need to go on a few sites and see what these guys look like.

If older guys were the In thing why even being on a sugar site? Don't young beautiful women want them or regular dating sites? The answer is NO FUCKING WAY! And why are their inboxs full with young beautiful women on these sugar daddy sites??? BECAUSE THESE WOMEN WANT MONEY!!!! DUH AGAIN.

I don't do the sugar daddy sites but the dating sites and the same thing. I should get some of these photos because you would laugh at how ugly and disgusting they are. I mean one guy must have weighed 400 pounds. One guy lied about his age and looked nothing like his photo. I could understand if these guys were nice looking with decent jobs, but that is rarely the case. Actually, I have become convinced online dating is the cesspool of dating and I am finding far better men offline.

I don't understand why people seem to think men can date much younger or much hotter but women can't. The reality is good looking people have better choices, but these people who aren't don't. Common sense. Just because we want something doesn't mean we can get it, in terms of dating. Yet men have so many unrealistic standards. I am 41, I am not interested in dating a man 60, why would I? not to mention he probably can't get it up, what other purpose is there for him? Money? in this day and age women have their own. Personality? probably not because he's starting to go into crabby ages. Looks? not hardly.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-08-2012, 03:13 PM
Don't you know guys with hair shave their heads? I am one of them. I don't shave everyday though it's a pain and my skin is too sensitive.

Yes but that's the issue these guys don't want to be considered bald. They fight to keep that over the neck vag patch intact.

Kellydancer
07-08-2012, 03:17 PM
Or they brush it to one side and tuck in their belly. I have seen these types of men hit on young things (and yes even me)and I just laugh.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-08-2012, 03:31 PM
I wasn't really trying to go off on men in the opposite but we ALL will age. Some gracefully, some not so much and even some things you have no control over. It's just a fact of life or maybe a fact of death which every way you want to look at it. Guys that need to use things to keep women self conscience really are trying to hide their own insecurities. Go out meet play repeat or Go out meet PAY repeat. End of story.

Kellydancer
07-08-2012, 04:02 PM
Cherry, I don't think you went off on men, just knocked a few (I hope)off their high horses. I get so angry when men basically tell me at my age that I need to just take anything I can (including ugly, fat, repulsive old men)while they think they can get any attractive 20 year old, then have women defend them. I think these people are brainwashed by the media which keeps keeping this lie alive. I know a lot of people and not in one case is a hot young woman married to an unattractive older man without money. I know people with age differences but these are more like a 50 year old married to a 40 year old (which really isn't that big of a deal and these differences aren't what I speak off). I know fat men but all of them are married to fat women. I know some men married to hot women but the majority of these men have fantastic careers (and ironically most met their spouses at work). I'm not even seeking out men who are extremely rich or handsome, just average looking guys who have jobs and are not fat.

Well
07-08-2012, 05:25 PM
I wasn't really trying to go off on men in the opposite but we ALL will age. Some gracefully, some not so much and even some things you have no control over. It's just a fact of life or maybe a fact of death which every way you want to look at it. Guys that need to use things to keep women self conscience really are trying to hide their own insecurities. Go out meet play repeat or Go out meet PAY repeat. End of story.

Both genders play games. it's not a gender issue. It's more lack or maturity or moral issue.

GlamourRouge
07-08-2012, 05:31 PM
Now this has turned into that thread called like Why Men In Their 30s Won't Commit or something lolol

cherryblossomsinspring
07-08-2012, 06:32 PM
now this has turned into that thread called like why men in their 30s won't commit or something lolol

haaaaaaaaa!!!

cherryblossomsinspring
07-08-2012, 06:35 PM
Both genders play games. it's not a gender issue. It's more lack or maturity or moral issue.


Both genders play games. it's not a gender issue. It's more lack or maturity or moral issue.

Women learn games from men. Unless they had a bad view from the start or have a brother they have overhead saying things, they pretty much just have immediate family to go off of. In most cases trust is there. Then some happy movies of romantic bliss and forever, princess and prince running into the sun. blah blah. Then reality of men comes into focus and none of these guys seem to be that dreamy sweet guy. Ok maybe he is in your head as you gaze around all starry eyed thinking you can't wait to see him again, you in a sense don't get why he's pushing for sex. But wait I thought... but the pumpkin and fairy dust...wait ...umm what's that?? lol Is that frosting coming out of that stick on your hip?? O_O

Men are great teachers. Then after that stumble over to an escort board where guys in their 50s-70s are trading pics of women like they are 10 yr olds trading baseball cards. It's as if they forgot they had to pay someone to actually fuck them and it was only for an hour.

Isn't reality just ooh so sweet and lovely:) Sugar Plum Fairy Dust for All!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GlamourRouge
07-08-2012, 06:55 PM
Games are based on biology. Men want to hunt, chase, and trap. Aka court. Make it too easy and he won't look at you like a prize. (An exception to this rule would be that you're a 8 9 or 10 and he's a 4 or 5 or something). Ok I'm done with this thread tho bc it really has become that other thread, mixed with the Why Men Love bitches one too. lol

BlackSheEp3
07-08-2012, 08:28 PM
Damn this thread blew up hard. I will admit I am okay with my height (I aint losing sleep) and while being 5'8" is below the average if I am not mistaken. I do wish I was taller. 5'11" would be cool with me. Just thought Id bring that up since someone mentioned about most women wanting a tall guy. I can see what, if I was a girl id want a tall guy as well...not freaky basketball player status at 6'5" to 7' but around 5'11" to 6'1" is cool with me. Im sure the reason is obvious, its perceived a taller guy can protect em, has some presence, and just aesthetically it looks better. Short guy in a suit, not so good or okay. Tall guy in a suit, looks great. I even thought of going through that limb lengthening deal to gain 2-3 inches but then I snapped back to reality and realized I dont have 80K+ to drop on such a procedure. The rhinoplasty I could afford/was attainable so I did that when I was back in Manila for vacation.

Oh and if a dude is going bald, just shave it off. I know I would...it just looks ridiculous holding on to last patch of patches of hair. Just let it go man...I would. Women prolly dont realize how bad a dude feels for losing his hair. I once buzzed my head with a #1 all around then finished off with a shave. I was like fuuuuuuuu if I ever go bald im gonna like this but heck ill take that than having the patches/Jason Alexander look. Screw it Ill prolly just wear a hat all the time. At least with women if they lose hair and or go bald, they can get away with a wig.

Vyanka
07-08-2012, 09:53 PM
Just google it...there are numerous articles/blogs stating how men age better than women. I dont believe fully, I just believe there is more expected of women than men. A man gets wrinkles, hes distinct. A woman gets wrinkles, shes an old hag. Or youll read "Men age like wine, woman age like milk." Once again I dont believe that fully since everyone ages at a different rate based on genetics, lifestyle, diet, exercise, environment, etc. Beauty does come in all ages...its also subjective. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." As I stated, I feel men and women look best in the 18-30 range. Its their prime and peak. After that imo its downhill...well at least in the looks department. Remember this is my opinion, Im not passing it off as fact.

I'm not googling shit. They can kiss my ass.

Kellydancer
07-08-2012, 11:03 PM
Vyanka, just accept it, you are an old hag, which means I am really an old hag.

Seriously though my 64 year old mom still has men flirting with her and if she wasn't married to my dad still I know she would find someone else. It's so funny seeing all these men flirting. She has no wrinkles and I don't think she has ever been called an old hag.

Kisca
07-08-2012, 11:25 PM
Just google it...there are numerous articles/blogs stating how men age better than women. I dont believe fully, I just believe there is more expected of women than men. A man gets wrinkles, hes distinct. A woman gets wrinkles, shes an old hag. Or youll read "Men age like wine, woman age like milk." Once again I dont believe that fully since everyone ages at a different rate based on genetics, lifestyle, diet, exercise, environment, etc. Beauty does come in all ages...its also subjective. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." As I stated, I feel men and women look best in the 18-30 range. Its their prime and peak. After that imo its downhill...well at least in the looks department. Remember this is my opinion, Im not passing it off as fact.

I completely agree that men age better within age than women. Females are judged on their looks most of their life, while males are not as dependant on looks as they age. Genetics and lifestyle play a huge role, take a heathly, good genetic, female and male of same age and a clean lifestyle. At age 50 the comparison will be noticed no matter what, but since humans judge on appearance first, the female will be judged more harshly since they are the "feminine, soft, maternal" etc. While men are "strong, providers, powerful" etc they don't need to dependant on their looks AS MUCH. I am not saying go eat burgers and gain 200lbs, become a slob and stop taking showers. But when men age - get grey hair, get wrinkles, have a harder time maintaining their body, they don't not give it much thought but go day-by-day, they are not jugded like a female with the same showings. There are plently of older men 50+ at my boyfriends workplace whom own 100k cars, and a crap of properties... Sure they are 10-25 lbs over, are getting bald or already are, most of their wives are ~10 years younger but they got their wife somehow in the beginning without money nor a high job as they have now. As men age they look for younger, no matter what its in their natural instinct to have a younger mate and they will try no matter what, whats the harm? The only reason they dont go for decreasingly younger if they are single, is when they are already settled, gained all their life-goals (such as having kids, established career and a place where they do not need a huge change again).

ArmySGT.
07-08-2012, 11:30 PM
They can kiss my ass.

Oh! Oh! Oh! Pick me!

Pick Me!

Kellydancer
07-08-2012, 11:54 PM
This is funny because I know a hell of a lot of men who all married women the same age as them. In fact I know high quality men who have older wives. Smart women know when men are judging them on looks and these women avoid these guys.

Then again my 64 year old mom still gets hit on and she laughs when she sees these old, fat slobs hit on younger because they usually are rejected.

Djoser
07-09-2012, 05:24 AM
A bald, toothless big girl will get more dick than the hottest man getting pussy. And she'll even get paid for it too! You seriously forget the sexual drive difference between men and women.

:rotfl:

On what planet?

It's true, I have seen many a fat, disgusting pig get dances from really desperate guys--but those guys were invariably just as ugly and nasty-looking.

This entire thread is kind of a joke anyway. It's not men who are shallow, it's the entire human race.

Women judge men by their shoes. Or their automobiles. I have yet to reject a woman because of her shoes or her automobile. But of course men often have equally shallow criteria, like the possession of teeth or hair.

Women don't simply learn to play games from men. Anyone who believes that, I've got a bridge to sell you in China, real cheap. Men don't simply learn to play games from women, either. They learn from each other, and older role-models, and watching mommy and daddy interact, and worst of all...from the fucking television.

WiseGuy_TX
07-09-2012, 05:49 AM
I once knew a healthy girl who chopped her own trees for firewood, rebuilt Holley carburetors with her eyes closed and could knock your teeth out when she was drunk. I'm pretty sure my cock was scared to biologically reprogrammed itself to mate with her.

Twinkle Toes
07-09-2012, 05:56 AM
Every time I read the title of this thread I think it says why do guys swallow? Lol

Kellydancer
07-09-2012, 10:28 AM
I admit I rejected a man who was mostly bald and had no teeth.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-09-2012, 10:33 AM
:rotfl:

On what planet?

It's true, I have seen many a fat, disgusting pig get dances from really desperate guys--but those guys were invariably just as ugly and nasty-looking.

This entire thread is kind of a joke anyway. It's not men who are shallow, it's the entire human race.

Women judge men by their shoes. Or their automobiles. I have yet to reject a woman because of her shoes or her automobile. But of course men often have equally shallow criteria, like the possession of teeth or hair.

Women don't simply learn to play games from men. Anyone who believes that, I've got a bridge to sell you in China, real cheap. Men don't simply learn to play games from women, either. They learn from each other, and older role-models, and watching mommy and daddy interact, and worst of all...from the fucking television.

Ohh I always wanted a bridge!! I bet you're friends with Magneto!! lol!!

And come on Dj you work as a dj in strip club. Most guys don't even get that close to dancers let alone work with them. In regular clubs I bet you know a few guys who did the "walk of shame" the next morning. Looked at the girl they grabbed out of the club at 2am and said wtf? I hit that... then said well she did give good head and then dashed out the house like it was on fire.

And yes they learn from parents specifically telling the girl "don't have sex" while the boy is probably given a condom saying " don't get her pregnant". Still girls learn the value men place on sex and once they do they start the game but usually women don't start out playing games at all. They like a guy and that's it. It's usually in this industry that women start playing their cards differently and even still some get caught in the game not even realizing they're in one. There are so many books about how to keep a man , how to make him commit, how to not be a door mat, how to get married etc. They exist because women are typically trying to figure out how to not just be a bed warmer. If a woman is dating to find a husband she's typically going to have to keep her legs closed and really go out with alot of guys and play games on them. In the past a guy only got sex if he got married. So the ball was in a woman's court to find the best guy and she usually looked at the land he owned and his assets to see if he would be a great provider for a family. Now ?? You have guys talking marriage on the first date just to get in bed and be long gone the next day. How many women have said " but I thought.... ".

Women still are usually more forgiving on looks then men are. If sex is bad alot of women will stay if the guy is generally a sweet guy.
Also women in this industry have their bullshit meter on high. So they can see a game from a mile away, I mean look at the men we come in contact with daily.

Kellydancer
07-09-2012, 12:11 PM
Ohh I always wanted a bridge!! I bet you're friends with Magneto!! lol!!

And come on Dj you work as a dj in strip club. Most guys don't even get that close to dancers let alone work with them. In regular clubs I bet you know a few guys who did the "walk of shame" the next morning. Looked at the girl they grabbed out of the club at 2am and said wtf? I hit that... then said well she did give good head and then dashed out the house like it was on fire.

And yes they learn from parents specifically telling the girl "don't have sex" while the boy is probably given a condom saying " don't get her pregnant". Still girls learn the value men place on sex and once they do they start the game but usually women don't start out playing games at all. They like a guy and that's it. It's usually in this industry that women start playing their cards differently and even still some get caught in the game not even realizing they're in one. There are so many books about how to keep a man , how to make him commit, how to not be a door mat, how to get married etc. They exist because women are typically trying to figure out how to not just be a bed warmer. If a woman is dating to find a husband she's typically going to have to keep her legs closed and really go out with alot of guys and play games on them. In the past a guy only got sex if he got married. So the ball was in a woman's court to find the best guy and she usually looked at the land he owned and his assets to see if he would be a great provider for a family. Now ?? You have guys talking marriage on the first date just to get in bed and be long gone the next day. How many women have said " but I thought.... ".

Women still are usually more forgiving on looks then men are. If sex is bad alot of women will stay if the guy is generally a sweet guy.
Also women in this industry have their bullshit meter on high. So they can see a game from a mile away, I mean look at the men we come in contact with daily.

While I generally agree with you and don't find fault, I think women who work in the sex industry have a different view on this. Not saying it's bad, just different. For instance, I do think that a good stripper needs to know what guys in the club are bullshitters. Not just in terms of making money, but in keeping money. I have stated this before but I know when I danced I generally had many unattractive customers. The reason? they knew it was as close as they would ever come to an attractive woman and they respected that (as best as can be respected in a strip club). We were both playing games to get what we wanted and I'm the one who won because I got paid, while they just had the fantasy (though to be fair, probably more than half of them just wanted the fantasy).

The sex game in terms of dating is where many women mess up, including me. I have learned through the years that when you put sex off, you will see who the truly great guys are. The sexual revolution did cause some of this trouble we see today where women say "we had a great date, great sex then left dumped me".

cherryblossomsinspring
07-23-2012, 09:07 AM
While I generally agree with you and don't find fault, I think women who work in the sex industry have a different view on this. Not saying it's bad, just different. For instance, I do think that a good stripper needs to know what guys in the club are bullshitters. Not just in terms of making money, but in keeping money. I have stated this before but I know when I danced I generally had many unattractive customers. The reason? they knew it was as close as they would ever come to an attractive woman and they respected that (as best as can be respected in a strip club). We were both playing games to get what we wanted and I'm the one who won because I got paid, while they just had the fantasy (though to be fair, probably more than half of them just wanted the fantasy).

The sex game in terms of dating is where many women mess up, including me. I have learned through the years that when you put sex off, you will see who the truly great guys are. The sexual revolution did cause some of this trouble we see today where women say "we had a great date, great sex then left dumped me".

I have to agree I've made a few fumbles myself. Not too many but I became a fast learner and really started doing less talking and more listening. I started doing the hidden study of guys on dates and most never made it to date #2. As I dated older men I started getting the "look I'm attracted to you, you're attracted to me..."speech pretty much saying lets fuck. It was almost like feeling like an outlet on a wall and someone saying I have a plug , you have an outlet, lets make electricity happen. They were just more straight to the point which was pretty unnerving.

Kellydancer
07-23-2012, 11:53 AM
I've had it happen a lot too and it frustrates me. Since I have taken the vow of celibacy I keep my mind clearer on men I date. Yes most never make it past date 2 but there is no feelings of regret. I've usually been careful in the past of who I slept with but yes made a few mistakes I regret. Now I look at the man as more than a sex partner. Right now there is a man who I have my eye on and I have been watching how he interacts with others. He is very shy but very well liked. He's also terrific to his mother and to everyone. I can tell if we end up dating he will not expect sex on the first date.

Trem
07-23-2012, 12:40 PM
Why is "a great date and great sex" a bad thing unless it leads to more? if it was so great why is it a mistake?

Kellydancer
07-23-2012, 01:09 PM
It's a bad thing if one person wants more. It's a mistake if the women (or in some cases the man)has sex with the idea it will lead to more.

BringOnTheMen
07-23-2012, 03:27 PM
I'm not googling shit. They can kiss my ass.

Lol. Funny how this is a stripper board...so theoretically, full of young hot girls in the "prime" age...yet you and the only 2 other members I can think of that are perfect 10s on here are in this guy's "wilting" category or whatever the fuck he calls it.

Whatever. this thread is hilarious. I don't think anyone should take any of this shit seriously because it's all so ridiculous...but by all means, please do, because it's so entertaining.

Kellydancer
07-23-2012, 03:57 PM
BOTM very true. I'm not a perfect 10 myself but when I see these men demanding perfection I have to laugh because most of the time they are far from it. Often these same guys will post photos and I will say "this is the guy who thinks he can get hot women, yeah right". Recently I met a 30 year old guy who just thought I was pretty hot, so apparently he was wrong. My 64 year old mom still gets hit on.

The Six
07-23-2012, 04:15 PM
I'm sure there's some website or reality show out there that showcases attractive women going out with slovenly men. It's surprising how often it happens (of course where I live everyone's beautiful so I don't see it as much). The guy could hit on 99 so-called 10s and get rejected, but if one accepts, it was worth it.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-23-2012, 06:53 PM
Why is "a great date and great sex" a bad thing unless it leads to more? if it was so great why is it a mistake?

I never said it was. I'm just saying most are not honest about that being what they want. You read a few reviews on about a dating site and see women complaining that "after sex he stopped calling". Now if she knew ahead of time that the guy(s) in question only wanted sex would she have slept with him? Some would but most wouldn't and we haven't even gotten to sex being good for her.

75% of women fake orgasms to protect a man's ego.
37% of men fake orgasms and we don't even know if this reflects sex with men or with women.

Just saying...

The Six
07-23-2012, 07:24 PM
Yeah but 60% of the time it works every time.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-23-2012, 07:26 PM
^ yes not saying you just want to fuck does work most of the time:)

Djoser
07-23-2012, 08:00 PM
I just hate all the stupid fucking games. The women read books like The Rules, and learn to make men jump through ridiculous, contrived hoops to get a little of their vaginas--which are supposedly made of gold. The guys read equally fucked books about being a PUA, and play stupid fucking games to trick women into yielding up those vaginas without paying the golden tribute at all.

But maybe all these tricks and rules and games might be good for really stupid shallow people, because the PUA shit and the jumping through hoops shit really works on shallow stupid women and shallow stupid men, respectively.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-23-2012, 08:07 PM
^ The rules was meant to make guys put in an effort to stay around for the long haul. A woman just wanted to make sure the man she was sharing herself with was worth it.

The games guys play is to get pussy that's pretty much it.

Kellydancer
07-23-2012, 08:18 PM
I never said it was. I'm just saying most are not honest about that being what they want. You read a few reviews on about a dating site and see women complaining that "after sex he stopped calling". Now if she knew ahead of time that the guy(s) in question only wanted sex would she have slept with him? Some would but most wouldn't and we haven't even gotten to sex being good for her.

75% of women fake orgasms to protect a man's ego.
37% of men fake orgasms and we don't even know if this reflects sex with men or with women.

Just saying...

Yes, this happens a lot and it has happened to me a few times. The guys come and then say "next time I will get you off" only there's no next time. I have gone out with a couple of guys where we both knew it was just sex and what happened in all of these cases both of us got off. In the men claiming to be wanting relationships but really don't they are selfish.

I have no problems with men (and some women)saying they just want sex, but be honest upfront.

Almost Jaded
07-24-2012, 01:04 AM
I JUST WANT SEX. Woot for honesty.

Seriously, WTF is this thread? I just read the whole fucking thing so now I feel obligated to post. Hmm - is there an analogy there..? Whatever.

That yelp thing with teh categories - All Good Things - I like your summation, and believe in many ways it is accurate. I also see why several people got upset about it. HOWEVER - how the FUCK did nobody else feel it necessary to point out that 1 - BS aside, there is some merit to it, and 2 - IT WAS FUCKING HILARIOUS!! Everyone go find your senses of humor. Under the couch cushions or something. Then go read it again. Cuz that shit was FUNNY.

ArmySGT - after reading your posts in this thread, I reiterate that were I gay, I would be gay for you. I'm not, you're not, so no worries - but I'm just sayin'. Some mighty fine posts in this here thread sir.

Kellydancer - for the 3rd or 4th time in a month, I have to qualify my response to you with "you know I love and respect you" because of what follows. So - Kelly, you know I love and respect you, but SERIOUSLY girl! EVERY thread you post in becomes this same thing lately! Go back over this thread and re-read only YOUR posts. Now, go to your profile, and read you last 100 posts regardless of thread. Do you see a pattern forming here? I get what you're saying, I get what you're always trying to get across. But you crossed the "the lady doeth protest too much" line HUNDREDS of posts ago! You are starting to sound insecure and bitter. Since I refuse to believe that you are either of things, may I humbly suggest a change of tone? Love ya!

Hmm, what else stuck out... Oh yeah -

Well - and maybe someone else - the obesity stats are way off and based on bullshit. Yes, we're getting bigger, but the manner in which the data is interpreted was intentionally changed to skew the stats higher in favor of obesity to further the "obesity epidemic" marketing crises. My close friend is a 36 year old Marine, 6'2" and 212 lbs of damn near solid muscle, maybe 7-8% body fat and only that because he's a reservist now. Anyway - according to the current standards, he's obese. Just sayin'.

Generally speaking, it's easier - and in many ways, more socially acceptable - for older men to date younger than vice-versa. So what, who cares, and why is this even being argued?! There are PLENTY of people of all ages for anyone of any other age who wants to date whatever age. So people who dislike people who date differently than they do don't have to date the people who do so. Know what? Both of those sentences are perfectly legit, too. So there.

I'm going to go kick a midget now. And it's all of you who kept this going fault.

Kellydancer
07-24-2012, 12:03 PM
Poor midget. Oh I agree that this topic has been something that has bothered me for a long time and has become an obession but as strange as it is things are seeming better for me because I have a 30 year old who is interested in me and a 50 year old who may or may not be interested but whom I am interested in (we share mutual friends). The online dating thing has soured me on relationships so much which is why I am no longer doing them (and meeting guys on my own).

mikef
07-24-2012, 01:36 PM
I've had it happen a lot too and it frustrates me. Since I have taken the vow of celibacy I keep my mind clearer on men I date. Yes most never make it past date 2 but there is no feelings of regret. I've usually been careful in the past of who I slept with but yes made a few mistakes I regret. Now I look at the man as more than a sex partner. Right now there is a man who I have my eye on and I have been watching how he interacts with others. He is very shy but very well liked. He's also terrific to his mother and to everyone. I can tell if we end up dating he will not expect sex on the first date.

Oh go ahead.... Make his day.... You might be surprised at the results.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-24-2012, 02:17 PM
Poor midget. Oh I agree that this topic has been something that has bothered me for a long time and has become an obession but as strange as it is things are seeming better for me because I have a 30 year old who is interested in me and a 50 year old who may or may not be interested but whom I am interested in (we share mutual friends). The online dating thing has soured me on relationships so much which is why I am no longer doing them (and meeting guys on my own).

I understand how you feel. When I was online dating I rarely met the guys that contacted me. Maybe out of a full inbox of men I met 2 and one became my bf. Then I did the online dating thing again met 2. One I had know from the last time I was on and the other well that just was put in the "worst dates" category.

Kellydancer
07-24-2012, 02:28 PM
This go around I met two guys from an online site. One wasn't interested in me and not sure why, and the other was a nice guy but too young and lives 5 hours from me (though he comes through here a lot and I said I'd like to keep in touch as friends). There are other guys I am going to meet as well. Last time I did online (a few months ago)I had so many negative experiences. The one guy I am interested in I actually met through various people and he lives down the street. I get messages on the dating sites and most are just gross, but some are funny. My worst date ever was from a guy I me through a friend but know a few who have some interesting stories. My worst stories are basically the guy who was married but nothing happened then.

The guy I am interested in who lives by me is bringing in a band to an event this weekend I am working at. I am going to ask him to dance and see where it goes.

ArmySGT.
07-25-2012, 04:48 PM
On what planet?


Not a planet really. A destination called the "Truck Stop".

Where "Truckers" and "Lot Lizards" meet and exchange bodily fluids / currency.

Djoser
07-25-2012, 05:09 PM
^ The rules was meant to make guys put in an effort to stay around for the long haul. A woman just wanted to make sure the man she was sharing herself with was worth it.

The games guys play is to get pussy that's pretty much it.

See, once again you are simply blaming the men.

'If men weren't such dogs, we wouldn't have to treat them like dogs all the time.' But not all men are dogs, just as all women aren't operating under the absurd assumption that their vaginas were made of fucking gold. If the shallow women weren't so stupid as to yield up the golden pussy to shallow guys who insult them in subtle ways to get it, and play other equally contrived games, the guys would stop with the bullshit. But it fucking works, just as The Rules work on stupid, shallow men

I haven't read The Rules, nor am I about to--just as I'm not about to go buy any of the PUA shit either.

But from what I've read about The Rules, I wouldn't want anything to do with any woman playing those ridiculous contrived utter bullshit games to make me 'earn' the pussy. I'm not a fucking dog, I'm not jumping through any fucking hoops. I'd seriously rather just do without it, if that's what it always took to get it.

Fortunately, there are plenty of women who can tell when a man actually respects them, without making him play demeaning games first--and then they are willing to share their bodies equally.

Why the hell do so many shallow people need to play all these stupid games all the time? Not everyone else on earth is so shallow...

I know the games are pretty much based on mammalian sexuality. And also based very much on the cultural heritage--which we all share--of the historical patriarchal societies in which women have been bought and sold like cattle, for thousands of years. But maybe it's time for both sexes to stop playing so many stupid games. The women don't have to always act as though their pussies were made of gold, and the men don't have to act as though they bought into this ridiculous, atavistic concept.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-25-2012, 05:44 PM
See, once again you are simply blaming the men.

'If men weren't such dogs, we wouldn't have to treat them like dogs all the time.' But not all men are dogs, just as all women aren't operating under the absurd assumption that their vaginas were made of fucking gold. If the shallow women weren't so stupid as to yield up the golden pussy to shallow guys who insult them in subtle ways to get it, and play other equally contrived games, the guys would stop with the bullshit. But it fucking works, just as The Rules work on stupid, shallow men

I haven't read The Rules, nor am I about to--just as I'm not about to go buy any of the PUA shit either.

But from what I've read about The Rules, I wouldn't want anything to do with any woman playing those ridiculous contrived utter bullshit games to make me 'earn' the pussy. I'm not a fucking dog, I'm not jumping through any fucking hoops. I'd seriously rather just do without it, if that's what it always took to get it.

Fortunately, there are plenty of women who can tell when a man actually respects them, without making him play demeaning games first--and then they are willing to share their bodies equally.

Why the hell do so many shallow people need to play all these stupid games all the time? Not everyone else on earth is so shallow...

I know the games are pretty much based on mammalian sexuality. And also based very much on the cultural heritage--which we all share--of the historical patriarchal societies in which women have been bought and sold like cattle, for thousands of years. But maybe it's time for both sexes to stop playing so many stupid games. The women don't have to always act as though their pussies were made of gold, and the men don't have to act as though they bought into this ridiculous, atavistic concept.

You keep repeating "gold and pussy" "gold and pussy" You mine as well just say what I've read off of escort boards are men complaining about women with golden pussy syndrome. Meaning women value their vaginas out of the reach of the men that can't afford them. No shocker there.

The issue is if men stop chasing pussy then there would be no need for it to be priced as gold. That's the issue and you very well make your income over that plain fact. I'm happy to say..so do I.

Stop valuing it and we can stop selling it. Simple.

And yes I get that you will not look at the rules book but after seeing your picture you're probably past all of that anyways. I don't think women are playing the rules in their 50s and 60s, maybe they are but people are at a different set of rules as they get older unless they desire dating women much younger than them.

The rules title is simple " how to get a man and how to keep him". That's it. or if I take it straight from the title " How to catch Mr. Right". I really don't see too many books for men on "How to find that wife". It's more PUA= Pick up Artist= how to bang as many women as you can. This isn't about caring for someone or sharing a loving relationship. It's how to get a dick in and get it out before she realizes she got used. Also it's guys that are typically unattractive trying to play mind games on women that are generally out of their league. Again these men are the ones reaching for gold so to speak when there are very nice women that are closer in looks to them that would be happy to have them. It's just as nice of an ego boost unless you can share pictures and say " look what I banged last night".

Now there is nothing wrong with sex between two people who want to have sex for sex sake. It's an issue when someone is misleading the other when someone wants more which is usually the problem when women start dating.

Now not all men are like this obviously. Some are sweet. The rules books is about controlling how a woman behaves in dating. Change yourself, you change how people treat you as well.

You are in the upper ages so I really don't know how guys in the upper ages go out and date. If they've had children that are the ages of the women they date, who knows what they look for. Maybe they are just looking for fun? Marriage at 50-65? I don't know. Maybe you can enlighten us youngsters on what dating is like for you and what you look for be it sex or more.

To add one more thing about the rules it doesn't say not to have sex. If a woman wants to sleep with the guy then she should have sex without expectation. There's even something on basically asking a woman on a date. Does a woman run out with the guy that asks her out for the next day or the same day ? No. It shows that he couldn't be bothered with planning a date for a week in advance and instead expects her to drop what she's doing and go meet him. In other words it's a lack of respect. If a guy is serious he'll make plans and think about her having a life outside of him. A guy that's selfish wouldn't do that.

Some guys are following the rules without even having to be told because they do respect women.

Djoser
07-25-2012, 06:40 PM
That's the issue and you very well make your income over that plain fact. I'm happy to say..so do I.

Stop valuing it and we can stop selling it. Simple.

No, I make the money I do precisely because I don't buy into the bullshit atavistic nonsense espoused in The Rules. Because if I did, the dancers wouldn't tip me diddly. I've seen a few SCDJs who couldn't get women and chased after the dancers for sex, and they never got tipped as well. Yes, we all make money from desperate customers, but the biggest mistake a really stupid woman can make is to assume that all men are desperate because the guys she sees in the club every night are.


And yes I get that you will not look at the rules book but after seeing your picture you're probably past all of that anyways.

Excuse me? How the fuck do you know what I'm past? You want to show me your picture and I'll tell you what I think you are capable of as far as I am concerned? Don't bother. Because I doubt very much if you are anywhere near as hot as you seem to think you are from reading this post. I've worked with so many women in their 20s and 30s who looked like dogshit warmed over, that snotty, condescending bullshit line won't work on me.


Now not all men are like this obviously. Some are sweet. The rules books is about controlling how a woman behaves in dating. Change yourself, you change how people treat you as well.

From what I understand about the book, it's more about controlling the men, by making them go through so much contrived bullshit that they have no balls whatsoever at the end of the process.


You are in the upper ages so I really don't know how guys in the upper ages go out and date. If they've had children that are the ages of the women they date, who knows what they look for. Maybe they are just looking for fun? Marriage at 50-65? I don't know. Maybe you can enlighten us youngsters on what dating is like for you and what you look for be it sex or more.

Once again with the snotty condescending bullshit. I am nowhere near 65, I have no children, and I date women who are in as good a shape as I am in. Since I can go a dozen 3 minute rounds with the heaviest weighted gloves available, and kick the living shit out of the average soft 25 year old pussyboy starting shit in my club, this means I can date women who are in equally good shape. It's easy, I never chase them like a dog, or act like they have anything I can't get easily elsewhere. And I never date stupid shallow women of any age, that's for sure.


Does a woman run out with the guy that asks her out for the next day or the same day ? No. It shows that he couldn't be bothered with planning a date for a week in advance and instead expects her to drop what she's doing and go meet him. In other words it's a lack of respect. If a guy is serious he'll make plans and think about her having a life outside of him. A guy that's selfish wouldn't do that.

Some guys are following the rules without even having to be told because they do respect women.

If a woman really likes me and I am at her club I will sometimes ask her to breakfast after she is done working. This by no means indicates that I don't respect her. It means I am beyond playing games with deadlines or time limits. I respect women who respect me. The rest get back as much or as little as they give me. If they said no to an invitation because it was less than a week away when they had no other plans or reason to say no than the Magic Time Limit From God (something that has never in my life occurred, but whatever), that would be their loss.

It's worked very well for me.