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takiaya
08-30-2012, 03:38 PM
I know where the guests wanting to see for free is coming from, not mentioning model username but one of the top models with the most ratings is telling the free guests everytime they sign up for an account, even a free one she will flash them for free, and shes doing it, (I know this because I popped into her room as a guest and she told me to go sign up and she would flash me when I came back XD) so they guys are coming in multiple times as guests to get the free flashes, and new guys all think its part of the sites promotion since its a new site etc, and then they are going to the other models rooms asking what they get if they sign up for an account XD. But yeah love the site so far even if its slow :) I have one actual tipping/privating regular so far.

takiaya
08-30-2012, 03:40 PM
Has a week been set for the new promotion yet? I emailed support to ask when it was but they haven't replied yet.

CourtneyRaine
08-30-2012, 04:28 PM
I don't see the problem with offering to flash if a guest signs up for an account. I understand a model not wanting to do it, but I do it. Well, I've only had two guys take me up on the offer. The way I look at it is, guys are more likely to come back to browse and actually buy tokens if they already have a member account, it's harder to convert a guest immediately into a paying customer, especially on a brand new site when there are hardly any models online. Actually, a lot of times when I check there are still Zero models online. If I was a paying member, I don't think I'd want to buy a token package until there were actually a good amount of models online consistently for me to spend those tokens on. Because why buy tokens and then half the time there's no one to tip, anyway? And if I'm not going to buy tokens, what's the point of making an account when I can always browse as a guest? There should be some type of incentive for guys to sign up. So from a member point of view I get it. HOWEVER, from a model point of view? I totally get not wanting to show nudity for free. It has the potential to make guys come to expect it and cheapen the site, plus, who wants to get naked for free? (The only reason I'm okay with offering a flash for new accounts is beacuse I am getting paid, I'm one of the ones making a guaranteed hourly so I'm techinically not showing anything for "free," but the guys don't know that). I don't know, it's a slippery slope and I respect models who both do and don't offer incentives to guys for making accounts. I just wish the guys understood a little bit better what cam sites are all about, and that they are not *entitled* to anything, it is up to the individual girl how she chooses to run her room. I had a couple of guests last night say they had neven been on a cam site before, I was baffled. They said they heard about camflare from twitter. Again, I'm wondering where else traffic is coming from because the guests on camflare are unlike any I have ever encountered before.

sexysusie
08-30-2012, 04:41 PM
How do we know the guests/ members are of age??

CourtneyRaine
08-30-2012, 04:50 PM
We don't. If they purchase tokens they'll need a valid cc which is proof, but just to make an account? All you need is an email address, so in theory an 8 year old could do it. I just tested in by making a free member account and all I had to do was pick a sn/password, enter my email, birthday, and captcha code. Then went to my email, clicked on the link they sent me, and BAM, I now have a member account.

RoseCF
08-31-2012, 12:18 PM
I've been told the new promotion is set to start next Sunday night.

CourtneyRaine
08-31-2012, 05:58 PM
I emailed camflare inquiring about that $25/hour promotion and this is what they replied:

"Thank you for your message *****.

We are building up to a campaign that we are expecting to begin next Sunday. We are in the process of building out some new upgrades to the website; new changes that we believe will create new members and more sales. Once we get some of these changes in place (next week), we will be running a large and ongoing advertising campaign to really get the CamFlare brand out there.

We have offered select models a special promotion, but we have met our current need for this offer. As we move further into the advertising campaign, I expect we may expand this offer to include additional models. I will certainly recommend you for this account when that time comes.

Thank you, and please let me know if you have any other questions. :)

Sincerely,
Eric"

I honestly appreciate their diplomacy in letting me know I'm not welcome to participate in the promo. Most sites probably would have just ignored my email. Well, if they don't want to offer this incentive to one of their top 5 models, hey, at least now I know where I stand with camflare :) If they just want me to be a "filler" model that's cool, I will finish out my 50 hours and then we can part ways amicably.

roast
08-31-2012, 06:32 PM
Not to be a stonecold cynic, but Im curious if any models were included in this offer?

CourtneyRaine
08-31-2012, 07:12 PM
A model several posts ago in this thread was offered a spot in this promo. She's how I heard about the $25/hour promo in the first place. I wasn't actually sure if it was real, but they have indeed paid me on the $7/hour promo so I'm guessing they are true to their word on that front.

So, like, an hour ago there was one model online, and she was looking a hot mess. Topless, panties, and sneakers, hair uncombed with her fake eyelashes half ripped off on one eye. I logged into my member account and PMed her, "Your eyelashes are crooked, hun." She giggled, typed, "I knoe :)" and then asked, "You take me private now?" Then she took a swig from a bottle and started swaying back and forth, mumbling something incoherently. So... if this is my "competition" I am totally fine with not investing too much time on camflare :)

roast
08-31-2012, 07:51 PM
^thx for your updates & review CR! Good luck:)

takiaya
09-07-2012, 01:16 PM
The promotion runs Saturday and Sunday 7pm-1am EDT (EST). Theres suppose to be tons of models online and tons of traffic, the last email I got said to share the information, so here it is:

We expect thousands of visitors during these hours, and it is important that we have you online - converting guests into members, and members into customers.




You are welcome to share this special time period with fellow models and your existing fan base on social networks. We plan to have an all new site design by Saturday, and we really want gain as much exposure over these two days.




Once Sunday passes, we will pick things back up again with our regular schedule of Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday between the hours of 7:00 PM EDT and 1:00 AM EDT. As business picks up, we will expand the days and hours for this promotion.

takiaya
09-07-2012, 02:14 PM
Not to be a stonecold cynic, but Im curious if any models were included in this offer?

I was lol. :p


XD the only thing I'm wondering about is the "partnering with top names in the industry" (<-in a previous email) for this event and "new design", its either going to be really good, or bankrupt the site.

CourtneyRaine
09-08-2012, 11:25 AM
Their "new design" needs to be finished before they roll out it. I'm on there right now and instead of the "CamFlare" logo in the upper left hand corner it says "Your Logo Here."

Also, as a warning to some of you girls who've heard about xpeeps suddenly imploding due to tech issues, I am noticing similar issues on CamFlare. Namely, a guest came in and told me my audio had an echo even though when he was in my room two minutes prior it was fine. Take it for what you will.

ALSO (because I'm on there right now and need to vent) I keep getting down rated by guys because I don't give free shows and I tell them they are being entitled and rude for asking repeatedly. Lol. Maybe I'd be "nicer" if they had tokens. I haven't seem a member with tokens on here in about 2 weeks. Is it bad that I just want to mute guests and non-tippers and just ignore every single one of them while I rack up this $7/hour?

takiaya
09-08-2012, 02:12 PM
It starts in 2 hours but the design isnt up yet, hoping we can test it before the promotion starts...

takiaya
09-08-2012, 05:16 PM
After 8pm and still no new design...


*update*
Soo weird, the guests can see the new design but I cant @[email protected]

DiamondCupcakes
09-08-2012, 07:45 PM
Thanks to everyone who is brave enough to try out this new site and share their experiances with us =) Im still waiting on the sidelines, nervous because of what happened with Xpeeps. Is Payoneer nnow offered as a form of payment or is it still in the process? Hope thr promo goes well for your ladies!

EmelieSky
09-08-2012, 08:29 PM
I maybe try this one out later on.

CourtneyRaine
09-09-2012, 10:29 AM
According to the sign up page it still says they'll be offering Payoneer "soon." No idea when that will be, though. Checks seem to take a week to arrive but both checks I've gotten have been accurate.

How did the promotion go for you girls last night? I chose not to participate, and when I logged in this morning everything looks the same? I thought the site was getting a new layout?

@DiamondCupcakes: Honestly, I don't blame you for not wanting to sign up with CamFlare yet. Unless you can get on their guaranteed $7/hour for the first 50 hours worked promo, or if you have your own traffic, it really is not worth it. I don't know of traffic will pick up after this weekend promotion ends but if it doesn't, I see no point of staying. Even if you drive your own traffic you're getting 60% whereas another site I am on starts you at 65% with room to increase that, plus you can cash out whenever you want, so... Not really sure what CamFlare has to offer at this point in the game? Hoepfully with a lot of xpeeps models coming over they/we will bring increased traffic, but if CamFlare is a carbon copy of xpeeps and xpeeps just shut down due to tech issues, what's to stop CamFlare from experiencing the same fate?

takiaya
09-09-2012, 02:56 PM
The new layout is for the guests. The models end hasn't gotten a new layout but if you just type camflare.com in without logging in you will see the new layout. Not sure if they are going to be updating the models side or not XD. Promotion was ok but I kept having weird tech issues last night that I don't normally have, maybe due to them updating the site? There were alot of new guests last night but most of them just popped in for a second and then left. :) we'll see how it goes tonight

takiaya
09-09-2012, 03:18 PM
Forgot to mention I sold my first video on there last night! Yay! :)

CourtneyRaine
09-11-2012, 08:28 AM
So this whole "big redesign" was just them changing the color scheme to pink and charcoal gray? Is that what we're supposed to get all worked up over, or am I missing something?

Can someone explain how ranking and ratings work to me? When I logged out on Sunday I had a rating of 4.70. This moring it's down to 4.38. I have not logged in since, so how are members down rating me when I'm not even online? Does that seem a little suspicious to anyone else? And what about placement? When I looked at the site this morning I was at the bottom of the first page. I looked at the top 10, then went back to the homepage and was magically mid page two. No one is online so why is my placement bouncing around all over the place?

Also, can someone enlighten me as to where they are getting their traffic from? I ask guys all the time how they heard about CamFlare and they're always really vague. Their traffic is probably the most annoying and demanding of any site I've ever been on, so I am curious where they are getting these guys from? Anyone know?

Did we ever figure out how we can see how many hours we've logged? I am using the broadcast tracker but I don't see where I can see how many hours I've put in, is it only visible on admin's end? Because I seriously just want to finish off my 50 hours and get off of this site. In fact, the guests are so annoying I've debated whether or not it's even worth it to finish this promotion. If I do finish this promotion, I'm not trying to go a minute over 50 hours, this site annoys me to no end. I probably shouldn't say that on a public forum but I don't even care at this point, between the tech issues they're already starting to have and the low quality traffic I want girls to know about these things so they can make an informed decision on whether or not to sign up.

Eye
09-15-2012, 07:13 AM
Curious if things have picked up on this site? Thanks!

CourtneyRaine
09-15-2012, 08:09 AM
I haven't logged on since Sunday so I have no idea if it's picked up, but occasionally when I hop on to view girls' rooms and see if they are getting tipped it still looks rather slow. Also, my rating is down to 3.75 even though the last time I logged out it was 4.70. Guess I've got some haters :)

For what it's worth, I got an email from the site that the audio echo thing should be resolved around the 19th so maybe then guys will be inclined to stick around longer and actually spend? If there is more than one girl on at a time, at least one of them is echoing. It's really annoying and I don't blame guests for not liking it and not wanting to sign up.

Eye
09-15-2012, 08:25 AM
Thanks hun!

MissSeraphim
09-15-2012, 07:47 PM
I made about $20 in the last couple days there, not including my $7/hour.
Mind you, it was basically just from one of my fans from xpeeps lol
That's my main reason for trying the site...it should be attracting all those guys who used the last one just like it to see me.

I HATE the audio problem there! Half the time I just shut my mic off.

The guests and members a like are so RUDE and DEMANDING! for the most part. They're being handed tits on a platter and expecting it has to be every model doing it. I had a member AND a guest trying in a desperate attempt to upset me, because I didn't get up and twirl for them.

I also want to know where they get these gems from...

Edit..
I did another google of camflare and I think they've posted on just about every free listing site.

Tsani
09-15-2012, 09:45 PM
Yeah I wanna know where these guys come from too. They act like they've never seen a cam site before.

Last night was my first night there. One guy took me private with 40 tokens (2 minutes worth) and it was clear that he thought that would get him more time. He was appalled at the fact that he just spent $15 for 2 minutes. That was the ONLY guy who came into my room who had tokens. There were around 15-35 people in my room all night and only maybe 4 people with members accounts.

I like how CamFlare is set up and how it works but the traffic, while plentiful during the "promo times", is not by any means quality traffic. If I wasn't getting the $7 an hour promo I wouldn't have even stayed on for the 1 and a half hours that I did stay on. That 2 minute private was the only money I made during that time.

On another subject: what is up with the annoying phone ringing sound when you broadcast?? It freaked me out at first so I stopped and asked another model and she said that was normal and everyone will hear it unless you "disable" it. Well the only way I could find to disable it was to turn off my speakers. Then I couldn't listen to music so I felt rather awkward in my room because I listen to music through my computer. Is there a way to get rid of that without turning off my speakers?

MissSeraphim
09-15-2012, 11:25 PM
It's the alert that people enter your room. You hear it on start up but once you're broadcasting under the members list, theres a check box to shut off notifications of people entering your room.

...
I'd keep it off except for tippers only modes.

Question...if you select group chat is it an actual group show with the members paying per minute?

Tsani
09-15-2012, 11:28 PM
Ohhhhhhh. Thank you!!!

CourtneyRaine
09-16-2012, 08:39 AM
I emailed camflare telling them how annoying their traffic is and asking where they are getting these guys from, and this was the reply I got: "We are advertising on a number of networks that provide access to the top porn sites across the United States. We target our advertising to only United States traffic that speak English, and we segment further by targeting those interested in straight amateur porn. Within this subset of targeted traffic, we optimize even further by doing day-to-date traffic evaluations to see what works and what doesn't. The goal here is continual improvement by always tweaking our advertising methods and testing new ideas/options."

The distinction should really be made that "traffic" is not the same as "paying traffic." I'd prefer quality over quantity, and these guys are NOT quality. I'm going to try to put in two hours a day until the end of the pay period, let's see what happens!

CourtneyRaine
09-16-2012, 05:54 PM
Good lord, this site is fucking SLOW. 1 hour. 12 guests. 0 tokens. Are they still doing the promotion? Because I got an email that they were but I'm not seeing thousands of visitors. But then again, I am NOT hustling the way that I do on other sites where I actually get tipped more than once a month. I'm fully clothed and only talking when being spoken to, but of course, it's just "can you flash me?" "No." "Just for a second." No. You want a flash? *sticks up middle finger* "Bitch." Lmfao. I CAN'T. I am trying to commit to 2 hours a day on there but honestly, two hours in and I want to pull my freaking hair out.

In a way, actually, I am REALLY glad I didn't get offered $25/hour. Because you know what? The traffic there is so annoying and shitty I probably wouldn't be able to stick to a 6 hour shift, and I'd feel dumb giving up that guaranteed money. I don't think I can finish this first 50 hours thing. Cam gods, please give me strength to not go psycho on these dumb mother fuckers! Although, hey, if I DID flip out, at least my room wouldn't be as boring as it is right now. Hang me?

I'm going to look at cute cat pictures online and try to get back to my "happy" place" so I can finish the next 45 minutes on here without stroking out. Sorry, REALLY just needed to vent here.

CourtneyRaine
09-29-2012, 03:50 PM
Just wanted to give you ladies an update: I just got my check from CamFlare and they totally ripped me off. I am on the $7/hour guaranteed promotion and am nowhere near hitting 50 hours. Last pay period I put in 6.5 hours with them. They only paid me for the tokens I made during that time- a whopping $6! So basically my check is $45.50 short. Lovely.

I'm just posting this to let y'all know to stay the hell away from camflare. I know I'm never going to see that money and the amount is so low it's not really worth fighting them over it, but I'm still entitled to that money and I'm mad as hell that they cheated me. Even taking away my personal frustration, the fact that they can't pay models what they promised them is a sign they're not doing well and are probably going to implode pretty soon.

takiaya
09-29-2012, 06:24 PM
Lol they stopped the ringing, I sold some videos last week, always get some sort of tip if I stay online long periods of time, and I'm online now and have 38 in my chat room :) for the promotion, so I think traffic is pretty good.

Also, my check was correct...

CourtneyRaine
09-29-2012, 06:59 PM
^Lol, maybe they like you better than me since they decided to pay you accurately :)

No but seriously, out of curiosity, how many paying members are in your room? I don't care about total numbers, that can be deceiving; I care about paying members. Because I just hopped on a site I've only been on for a few days and made a hell of a lot more than $6 just for flashing in free chat, and it didn't take me no 6.5 hours do to it. Kudos if the site works for you, rock it while you can, but I have seen this pattern before and it usually doesn't end well.

Tsani
09-30-2012, 11:00 PM
Are they still using that hour tracker thing that we clock in/out with for the hourly pay? Cuz I can't find that anymore. I got paid the hourly rate for when they did have that but now I'm worried I won't get paid the hourly now that I can't find that tracker tool.

CourtneyRaine
10-01-2012, 10:57 AM
http://models.camflare.com/tracker

It looks different than it used to but when I dug through some old emails from them and that's the link I got. I really, really hope you get paid what you are owed :)

Tsani
10-01-2012, 12:36 PM
Thanks! For some reason the URL that I had didn't have the "models" part in it... not sure why. Oh well, I only missed out on like 2 and a half hours of non-tracking cuz of that.

takiaya
10-01-2012, 01:55 PM
Number of paying/tipping guys varies by night. I have 3 guys that normally either tip or take me pvt for a few minutes when I'm online regularly the weekend. Plus alot of the new guys love getting a tit flash for a sign up but always ask how to see more, thats when you try to convince them to buy some tkns and some actually do it. token cost for them is 25cent a token, you get 15cent a token. I had a guy I think it was Friday? Tipped 40tkns ($6 my part) for me to flash my ass for 20seconds. That and I play up to the fetish guys, there's one guy that tips alot to see you try on pantyhose, heels, etc.

Its definitely not my main site but I stick around to give it a shot, and traffic is building there. So we'll see how it goes.

laurielegs
10-17-2012, 12:57 PM
anyone still working this site? There never seems to be more than a few hosts on.

volatileghost
10-17-2012, 03:05 PM
Id also like to know.

Eye
10-17-2012, 03:07 PM
Not me, I gave it up, too boring.

MissSeraphim
01-14-2013, 10:42 AM
It still sucks there. I split cam there occasionally mostly for LULZ. Just about everyone on there is a total idiot to the idea of paying for a girl. It's mostly like this nothing in my topic about paying/havent mentioned tips in a while = like 30 guests. Mention tips, rooms dwindles down to two people...still begging for free stuff. It's a sea of pathetic

Cosima
02-08-2013, 08:10 AM
so totally not worth it to sign up yeah? you see it heading in the same trafic road as xpeeps?

CourtneyRaine
02-08-2013, 09:44 AM
Cosima, I check out CamFlare every now and then (just to see when they finally go under, sadly) and I guarantee they have never had as many members as xpeeps, there is no comparison whatsoever. That site is HORRIBLE! Right now there are no models online, that tells you something. If you can get in on the $7/hour guarantee and you have free time you might as well apply once some other girls report that they're getting paid these days. Just point the cam at you and watch tv or read a book or something. But I wouldn't count on that money for bills or anything, since they did not pay me the hourly that they owed me my third or fourth check back in September I have no faith that they won't screw over other girls.

ETA: has anyone gotten a 1099 from them yet? Are they even sending them?

Snowy0Star
02-09-2013, 07:01 AM
i was wondering why this thread was necro. I see we're just reporting how much of an epic fail this site STILL is. But i too wounder how theyre making enuf to stick around.

MissSeraphim
02-09-2013, 10:00 AM
yeah pretty much get your hourly and bail.
there's even this girl on there that thinks shes my frikin best friend, but she did help me find a profile on a site called "collarme" that was using pictures of me from when I was like 16. that's about the most helpful that place has been lmao
Im wondering if anyone who works for them comes on here. someone should email customer support this thread lmao