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SexyLaney
09-06-2012, 11:20 AM
I'm curious if anyone here knows what service providers broadcast the camtv feed (as in comcast, charter, etc.)?
cvarga
09-06-2012, 11:27 AM
I'm curious if anyone here knows what service providers broadcast the camtv feed (as in comcast, charter, etc.)?
I was trying to find the answer to that also. It must be Brazzers. I googled Manwin to try and figure out which channels he owns but there isn't much out there.
Busygirl
09-06-2012, 09:36 PM
Ask streamate directly.
minniesoporno
09-07-2012, 05:56 PM
I finally got the message in my model login page on streamate I am wondering about it I mean Ia m not on it often. but I do want to use to make 350 to 500 a week. I am just wondering if opt-in to the tv thing will help me or hurt me. I would hate to join in and then not feel right about it and won't be able to opt-out later.
and this tv thing does have me a bit scared with the whole feeling like its super invasion of privacy.
SarahTime
09-07-2012, 05:58 PM
I finally got the message in my model login page on streamate I am wondering about it I mean Ia m not on it often. but I do want to use to make 350 to 500 a week. I am just wondering if opt-in to the tv thing will help me or hurt me. I would hate to join in and then not feel right about it and won't be able to opt-out later.
and this tv thing does have me a bit scared with the whole feeling like its super invasion of privacy.
I do believe you can opt in and out at any time. It seems like it's still in testing phase so I haven't noticed a huge jump in income from it at all... it might end up being real big though, who knows?
I would try it and see how you like it, since you are able to opt in and out any time.
XAnastasiaX
09-08-2012, 10:09 AM
I am doing alot of these now, as a matter of fact if I decide to run a GOLD show it's kinda the only way I am doing it. The first one tonight went off very well ( my regulars both tipped 120 and bought the show!!) the other two didn't and the Producer kept warning me during my countdown about " Turn off beeping noise" has anyone else had this issue. It seems they are very anal about things and that it goes through a rotation, I literally had 1 person in my room when given a request it was sad after awhile but it was nice not having to re-start. Seems they are very up and down about the goal though one time it will be high ( 270) the other time lower ( 190)
I would much rather focus on private and exclusive but the guarantee of income is nice.
Xoxo
Jenn
Rosemary Rabbit
09-08-2012, 11:05 AM
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Jessica1001
09-08-2012, 12:00 PM
As far as the GOAL amounts that are automatically set by the TV producers:
I know that some ladies have expressed frustration at the fact that the goal will be, say, $250 one night, and $180 the next.
But I think you also have to consider that due to the fluctuations in the available traffic, even when you are doing non-TV gold shows, your ability to hit a certain $GOAL will vary (sometimes you can hit a $300 goal, and sometimes $200 is a struggle).
Does anyone feel like maybe SM takes the 'current traffic patterns' into account in whatever algorithm they use to determine your GOAL amount? Like, if they KNOW that there is a relatively low number of viewers online at a particular time, they might set your goal a bit lower?
This would certainly make sense to ME.....
Thoughts?
temptingmodel
09-08-2012, 12:26 PM
^^ I think this will tell us as well when the big spenders are on. During the week, I received decent TV offers but on Friday night , not so good? Made me think as well. JUST SAYING maybe the weekend traffic is double but the earnings (for me) is not. I will update after a Sat night and chime back in
SexyLaney
09-08-2012, 04:21 PM
I was trying to find the answer to that also. It must be Brazzers. I googled Manwin to try and figure out which channels he owns but there isn't much out there.
Dish Network channel 492 is all I have found so far, I don't have Dish Network so I can't confirm this though.
CammiStar
09-09-2012, 05:22 AM
Yep, it looks like "CamTv" is now offered on the Dish Network, where the member pays $29.99 per month. Wonder what percent of that streamate gets...
http://www.dish.com/entertainment/adult/
IsobelWren
09-09-2012, 07:35 AM
I've gotten two offers to do the TV gold shows now. The first time I didn't quite get that I was supposed to fill out the "I will" topic (it looked like they wanted to fill it out for me) so I accepted and then sat there and waited, but it said, "you must fill the topic out or the show will be canceled" I went to fill it out immediately, but the show canceled in 10 seconds, before I could fill it out.
The second time I had started a gold count down. The TV box came up and said that it had turned into a TV gold show and I would meet my goal if I clicked "accept". I did and then the box turned gray all over. I could still see guys coming into and out of chat behind it and I could see that they were talking, I just couldn't see the middle of the screen to read it. It stayed that way for about 20-30 seconds. I waited, nothing happened. I hit refresh, nothing happened. I had to disconnect and reconnect to fix it. I lost ALL the contributions I'd already had!
Cam_Model_Jess
09-09-2012, 08:29 AM
Yep, it looks like "CamTv" is now offered on the Dish Network, where the member pays $29.99 per month. Wonder what percent of that streamate gets...
http://www.dish.com/entertainment/adult/
I'm guessing they pay that just to have access but then must contribute on top of that, so for SM the percentage of contribution from the memberships is probably close to irrelevant. But eventually, sure it would add up over time.
Rosemary Rabbit
09-09-2012, 11:32 AM
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JoJoX
09-18-2012, 01:20 AM
wow, stream mate seems worst than a sleazy studio owner. they can burn in hell with this bullshit. i am beyond disgusted.
whiteheat
10-02-2012, 12:31 AM
Reading some replies here made me feel queasy and annoyed towards SM again but somehow I made it work at my own advantage when I got a pop up.
I got 2 requests in a row and accepted both since they set 220 and 230 and I left the goldshow topic as it was like the previous one I did (6min 5gold naked teasing and fingering)
Don't get me wrong, the guaranteed income without wasting time with the countdown and stuff is rad, I checked my earnings later cause I was paranoid the tv producer didn't put up the difference or something, but was all ok and there were like 30-40$ (my cut obvs) more than my usual goldshow for each tv show so not that HIGH margin of profitability I guess?* So as someone else said not worth for being on tv? (not that I care, I'm not US based and by choosing of being naked and stuff on the internet I already knew from the start someone will recognize me sooner or later)
Rosemary Rabbit
10-02-2012, 10:27 AM
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SarahTime
10-02-2012, 02:13 PM
After doing quite a few of these and really finding out how they work, I officially enjoy them.
Normally my pop-up warnings are for things like turning off the the 'bell' dings of people entering, my music, and getting rid of a few trademark things (like my cookie monster socks), but I run them no differently than my normal GS. I have only had one rude producer but the one I had last night was the best! He/She was really nice, helpful, and responsive. I'm kind of hoping I get that one again!
I don't know what to add aside from this! Definitely do not participate if you feel this won't benefit you. I felt like it would benefit me, tried it, and it has. My hourly has definitely increased since I started doing them but results can/will always vary. The best part for me is that I knew I could opt out. I tend to be pretty experimental since things change constantly and I want to be as flexible as possible. This experiment just happened to work out for me. :)
I'm also LOVING the tv shows! I'm doing about 2-4 a day depending on how long I'm on. I have found the producers to always be awesome, and one even complimented how fast I was to get everything sorted (no music, sounds, etc) before accepting. My hourly average has gone up making me VERY pleased with my overall hourly average. So pleased I can't WAIT to work now, and that's strange for me! LOL :)
What's funny is that my own gold shows, I do a standard goal of $150 and usually meet or exceed it during the show. When I have TV offer and the goal is $200-250 I find that for the most part I'm STILL meeting the goal all on my own without the producers having to make up the difference! So it makes me think I should up my own gold show goals now. My husband noted that during TV gold shows I "show off" more and overall "try harder" to make the goal, and I'm more relaxed knowing that it's guaranteed money, so I think that must be it.
DiamondCupcakes
10-02-2012, 02:41 PM
I used to like doing TV shows too =) The only thing is a do voyeur shows for $4/30 min and now they only send me TV offers for like 14 min $3 buy in at a $120-$140 goal. I didnt think that doing the voyeur shows would change my average so much but it did. I used to do $250/ for 5 min TV shows and I loved that. Recently I have gotten lots of TV offer but dont wanna do them anymore because that price is insanley low for me =/
SexyLaney
10-02-2012, 05:23 PM
After doing quite a few of these and really finding out how they work, I officially enjoy them.
Normally my pop-up warnings are for things like turning off the the 'bell' dings of people entering, my music, and getting rid of a few trademark things (like my cookie monster socks), but I run them no differently than my normal GS. I have only had one rude producer but the one I had last night was the best! He/She was really nice, helpful, and responsive. I'm kind of hoping I get that one again!
I don't know what to add aside from this! Definitely do not participate if you feel this won't benefit you. I felt like it would benefit me, tried it, and it has. My hourly has definitely increased since I started doing them but results can/will always vary. The best part for me is that I knew I could opt out. I tend to be pretty experimental since things change constantly and I want to be as flexible as possible. This experiment just happened to work out for me. :)
I also like that during the TV Gold Show countdown you are moved to the # 1 spot in the sort.
SarahTime
10-02-2012, 05:23 PM
I used to like doing TV shows too =) The only thing is a do voyeur shows for $4/30 min and now they only send me TV offers for like 14 min $3 buy in at a $120-$140 goal. I didnt think that doing the voyeur shows would change my average so much but it did. I used to do $250/ for 5 min TV shows and I loved that. Recently I have gotten lots of TV offer but dont wanna do them anymore because that price is insanley low for me =/
I believe they said they are basing the gold show offers on the average of your gold shows for the previous 30 days. So if you are doing lower goals with the voyeur shows, that might be why their offers are lower.
Rosemary Rabbit
10-04-2012, 10:49 AM
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Charnixxx
10-04-2012, 03:20 PM
I just wanna know .. if they can afford a TV network and commercials ....
why the hell can't we get paid more thank 35%???? And why can't we get a cut out of our privates they re sell???
I would love to be able to download my pvts and put them in my members site but they won't even let us do that.
They are a bit greedy to me ... and I don't want to be a "TV STAR" or do gold shows .. I just want privates dammit!! LOL
I wish they would have just kept the site how it was and not made it so complicated ... all the placement and encoder issues its annoying.
Hell some men jack off to photos, I don't see what's the big deal with all this encoder, I7 processor crap! Why isn't a HD webcam enough lol.
I feel like they care more about the customers than the models ... and what's a site without happy models?! We are important too :(
But just my opinion .... good luck to all the girls who want to give it a go though I wish you all the best!
SarahTime
10-04-2012, 05:46 PM
I just wanna know .. if they can afford a TV network and commercials ....
why the hell can't we get paid more thank 35%???? And why can't we get a cut out of our privates they re sell???
I would love to be able to download my pvts and put them in my members site but they won't even let us do that.
They are a bit greedy to me ... and I don't want to be a "TV STAR" or do gold shows .. I just want privates dammit!! LOL
I wish they would have just kept the site how it was and not made it so complicated ... all the placement and encoder issues its annoying.
Hell some men jack off to photos, I don't see what's the big deal with all this encoder, I7 processor crap! Why isn't a HD webcam enough lol.
I feel like they care more about the customers than the models ... and what's a site without happy models?! We are important too :(
But just my opinion .... good luck to all the girls who want to give it a go though I wish you all the best!
As far as why they don't give more than 35%... it costs them A LOT of money to even be able to run and support the site, so, much of that remaining 65% goes right back out to enable us to have a good site to work on.
justanothercamgirl
10-04-2012, 06:25 PM
As far as why they don't give more than 35%... it costs them A LOT of money to even be able to run and support the site, so, much of that remaining 65% goes right back out to enable us to have a good site to work on.
I can agree with that statement only to a point since their model support is so truly dismal. Members get better support than their own 'employees'. SM has proved time and again that they don't really care about their models, only their pocketbook.
Ms.Lacey
10-04-2012, 07:36 PM
As far as why they don't give more than 35%... it costs them A LOT of money to even be able to run and support the site, so, much of that remaining 65% goes right back out to enable us to have a good site to work on.
If you cam on mfc (50%) you will see the difference. MFC aka MyFreeCrash one night it crashed 5x.
annabellz
10-05-2012, 11:52 AM
why the hell can't we get paid more thank 35%????
a very simple breakdown would be-
35% goes to models
35% goes to generating traffic otherwise known as 'affiliates'
20%-25% goes to running the site - bandwith, support staff for both models and customers, payroll staff, web designers, people who clean the office, the electric bill at the office, SMs own tax liability etc. anything and everything else you can think of is included in this, including CHARGEBACKS.
5-10% is the companies own estimated profits.
(where exactly do you propose they cut costs to increase the models %?)
If you want to increase your %, you need to tap into the affiliate share by promoting your cammodel link, or sign up as an independent affiliate and promote the site as a whole.
justanothercamgirl
10-05-2012, 02:16 PM
a very simple breakdown would be-
35% goes to models
35% goes to generating traffic otherwise known as 'affiliates'
20%-25% goes to running the site - bandwith, support staff for both models and customers, payroll staff, web designers, people who clean the office, the electric bill at the office, SMs own tax liability etc. anything and everything else you can think of is included in this, including CHARGEBACKS.
5-10% is the companies own estimated profits.
(where exactly do you propose they cut costs to increase the models %?)
If you want to increase your %, you need to tap into the affiliate share by promoting your cammodel link, or sign up as an independent affiliate and promote the site as a whole.
How about they pay the models more and the affilates less? I mean...the models are the ones actually doing the shows. It could be 40% for the models and 30% for the affilates seeing that a model doesn't really have the time it takes to promote an affliate link since she is actually working on her cam live.
Just an idea......
SweetPinkCupcake
10-05-2012, 02:25 PM
Affiliates do A LOT for us. They are the ones that bring us the traffic that Streamate has. Without them, we would have about the same estimated traffic of like, iFriends, lol. (Aka- Barely any traffic.).
I know lots of girls complain about the 35%. . but we are able to get MORE. :) We can get 75 effing percent off certain guys, ad 20% off what other guys spend! That is seriously awesome. We also don't have chargebacks. I will take my 35% (or 75%) ANYDAY, and have Streamate bring the traffic TO ME. I don't know, just how I look at it. .
ps JAC-- I love you.
Ok. . so anyways . on to the TV subject :P
annabellz
10-05-2012, 02:41 PM
How about they pay the models more and the affilates less? I mean...the models are the ones actually doing the shows. It could be 40% for the models and 30% for the affilates seeing that a model doesn't really have the time it takes to promote an affliate link since she is actually working on her cam live.
Just an idea......
decreasing affiliate pay will decrease traffic. Currently every big box site pays affiliates 35%. If SM drops their pay to 30%, affiliates will no longer promote for SM, why would they when the next site is offering 35%? they dont care whos signing their check. Like mentioned above- the only way to increase your % is to tap into the affiliate links yourself.
laurielegs
10-05-2012, 04:17 PM
I've tried so many sites. I find that the higher the percent the lower the traffic as a general rule.
There are actually a few sites who pay more than 35%. Give them a try and see if you don't come to the same conclusion. I would rather not have to sit on cam for 8 to 10 hours, finally geta few shows, and then find the next day that the money is all gone because it was a chargeback or a card that was no good.
You can even get 100% if you bring a viewer to Ifriends (but you better pray he doesn't do a chargeback). You can get 50% for regular customers there too, but same thing - better hope its not a stolen card or chargebacks.
There is a huge advantage of actually getting paid for what you do with no danger of chargebacks and not having to wait around all day for one or two guys to come into your room!
italianstarcamgirl
10-05-2012, 09:18 PM
So as long as I'm streaming in party chat a TV request could come through - do they only pick girls off the front page or is it anyone with a good rating and using the encoder? I really want to try this out! I just started using party chat though tonight as I'm usually just in classic.
sweetgapeach
10-06-2012, 04:42 AM
^^ I am opted in, but when I am in classic chat I get a message from the producers letting me know that I am opted in but signed into classic chat so the cannot request for me. It has happened three times in classic chat. I guess that is the way to let you know that they would have chosen me if I was logged in correctly, a reminder of sorts to log in correctly.
Charnixxx
10-06-2012, 06:52 AM
(where exactly do you propose they cut costs to increase the models %?)
If you want to increase your %, you need to tap into the affiliate share by promoting your cammodel link, or sign up as an independent affiliate and promote the site as a whole.
I've made more money being an affiliate than when I "model" on SM. So I feel like WE ARE THE AFFILIATES! I'm not a newbie, I know the percentage talk and blah blah. How many girls do you see constantly promoting their links? Plenty so when you think about it models should get paid more than affiliates period. Cause we are the affiliates. Men wouldn't come to the site if there wasn't any models. & most come from us promoting our own links. Cam girls are the best marketers IF YOU ASK ME! Lol even if they just paid us 40-45% I would be happier. & I'm sure it wouldn't hurt their pockets! WHO WOULDN'T WANT A RAISE? Lol esp in this line of work! They obviously make a lot of money and have enough to give their girls a 5-10% raise.
But do not get me wrong yes I agree SM is a good cam site, one of the best, and they have good traffic. And their affiliate program is good. Just in business ... I feel you should always get AT LEAST 50% of your money. That is all!!! I have a love/hate relationship with SM lol :)
It is really hard to get good paying traffic.
Its takes time, effort, energy , creative thinking, waiting... waiting oh yeah and waiting. then maybe if you are lucky you get results and you do the same thing next week.
If not you try it all over again, with a different game plan.
I used to hate the low payout and think it was super unfair.... But now I understand it and I am will to it accepted because I know how hard it is to get good paying traffic.
Rosemary Rabbit
10-15-2012, 01:38 PM
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justanothercamgirl
10-16-2012, 02:51 AM
ps JAC-- I love you.
I love you too, and I think you bring up VERY good points. ;)
justanothercamgirl
10-16-2012, 03:02 AM
decreasing affiliate pay will decrease traffic. Currently every big box site pays affiliates 35%. If SM drops their pay to 30%, affiliates will no longer promote for SM, why would they when the next site is offering 35%? they dont care whos signing their check. Like mentioned above- the only way to increase your % is to tap into the affiliate links yourself.
All the other girls must have some sort of magical touch compared to me because I have promoted the living fuck out of my affiliate link through social media, have gotten a shit ton of click throughs but have only ever got one of them to convert and the person only spent money on SM a couple of times and was never to be seen from again.
I have promoted another company's link at the exact same time as my CM link with the exact same methods and have earned money so I know that those click throughs are converting.
If any other camgirl wants to take pity on me and do some hand-holding to explain to me how I am messing up, I'd be more than greatful. I must admit that I am simply *baffled* when other girls explain to me how I could be easily making more money pushing my affliate link.
I mean, I have no doubt in my mind that they are telling the truth about their being able to do it and make bank but frankly I am in complete awe of how they can do it!
justanothercamgirl
10-16-2012, 03:11 AM
I've made more money being an affiliate than when I "model" on SM. So I feel like WE ARE THE AFFILIATES! I'm not a newbie, I know the percentage talk and blah blah. How many girls do you see constantly promoting their links? Plenty so when you think about it models should get paid more than affiliates period. Cause we are the affiliates. Men wouldn't come to the site if there wasn't any models. & most come from us promoting our own links. Cam girls are the best marketers IF YOU ASK ME! Lol even if they just paid us 40-45% I would be happier. & I'm sure it wouldn't hurt their pockets! WHO WOULDN'T WANT A RAISE? Lol esp in this line of work! They obviously make a lot of money and have enough to give their girls a 5-10% raise.
But do not get me wrong yes I agree SM is a good cam site, one of the best, and they have good traffic. And their affiliate program is good. Just in business ... I feel you should always get AT LEAST 50% of your money. That is all!!! I have a love/hate relationship with SM lol :)
Heck, I would be happy with no raise but the ability to make a higher percentage the more money I earned on camera for them. I mean it is a win-win situation.
Camgirls have to be self-directed or we would never be self-employed. I think if SM was smart enough to give the camgirls a goal to meet in order to earn more money than they would have pockets stuff with money and would be whistling all the way to the bank.
If there is any doubt, I love me some Streamate. But, that doesn't mean there isn't always room for improvement.
Melonie
10-16-2012, 01:47 PM
The previously listed 20-25% 'cost of doing business' to the webcam host is based on a system-wide average. For a fact the actual percentage involved for top selling camgirls may be as little as 5%. Similarly, the actual percentage involved for marginal camgirls may be greater than 100%.
CammiStar
11-04-2012, 05:04 AM
Sooo, I had a few TV shows tonight that went really well. I made goal on one, and the other I was only short $10. All my TV requests are the same buy in and amount of time - $7 for 9 minutes. The goal is usually between $210-$250. The last one I did was VERY awkward. The goal was $234 and only 6 people pledged. When the show started, out of those six people, only 5 were in the show, and one was the producer. The other 2 members names never even showed up during the entire 9 minutes.
Talk about awkward. Knowing I was so far off from goal and having so few people actually in there really threw me off my game.
Have any of you ladies been so far off from the goal? I know I shouldn't let it, but it made me feel like a huge FAIL!
kittykrane
11-04-2012, 08:20 AM
I haven't been offered any TV shows yet and I'm always in the first 4-5 rows of the front page. Only thing on my walls are some decorative items, non-logo, no animals, etc.... Sometimes I have music on low, but that can be turned off. Not sure how they pick and choose. I have great cam quality...Maybe it's because I don't do tons of GOLD shows to begin with? Speaking of, last night I did one on my own and some guy pitched in 100! Never had that happen. He didn't even stay the whole show. That made my night...
Rosemary Rabbit
11-04-2012, 01:52 PM
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SarahTime
11-05-2012, 12:07 AM
Dear Producer:
Thanks for giving me an annoying pop up telling me NOT to tell the guys the show was happening no matter what. Oh and also mentioning to me that my tactic was not going to encourage guys to join.
GUESS WHAT??? I have had PLENTY of guys tell me that they WILL NOT join unless they know the show is happening FOR SURE. Kind of like those 15 people who waited until the show started to put in.
THANKS FOR ANNOYING ME DURING MY COUNT DOWN.
Sincerely,
Sarah
Dayzie
11-05-2012, 01:26 AM
Dear Producer:
GUESS WHAT??? I have had PLENTY of guys tell me that they WILL NOT join unless they know the show is happening FOR SURE. Kind of like those 15 people who waited until the show started to put in.
THANKS FOR ANNOYING ME DURING MY COUNT DOWN.
I think I had the same producer... got about 3 or 4 popups during the countdown... one that really pissed me off is he told me my shorts were too revealing! WTF?! I've been wearing the same shorts on streamate since I started over a year ago, and its the first time they have a problem with them?
And I use the same tactics as you Sarah, saying that the show will happen for sure, and YES it DOES WORK. Sometimes I wonder where these producers came from... maybe the disney channel?
PS** its the fifth of Nov?? is streamate just gonna put a Santa hat on that jack o lantern? lol
BritishBecky
11-05-2012, 02:53 AM
I was told about 2 weeks ago that this is the new rule - that we aren't allowed to say that it's happening no matter what because they want guys to still throw in extra pledges etc. Annoys the hell out of me because it absolutely makes more guys join if they know it's happening.
Also, if you do happen to get one where you fall short of goal and yet the show still starts, guys learn to expect that we don't 'need' to hit the goal. This is a really wanky rule.
Incantatious
11-05-2012, 03:27 AM
Woooooow...
Said producer should be fired. If I'd have had him, I have no idea wtf I'd do / say in return. I might even be tempted to say something like, "You know what WON'T make the show happen? Your dumb ass telling me how to do my job!" and disconnect my webcam. :S
{Except yeah... I probably wouldn't do that because I wouldn't want to put my job in jeaopardy.. It's like suddenly we have do have some kind of boss?! Except one who isn't even really out for the benefit of the business because he has never done our job in his life! No position to tell us how to act}
It feels almost like they're abusing the fact that they can change / invent new rules at ANY time with that kind of shit, which really is not going to translate well into $$$$ for their performers if they're deciding to do that LIVE. Very nasty. How badly that could interfere with hustle. They must be throwing models off with such on-the-spot nonsense.
Dayzie - damn... if shorts are now too revealing I've no idea wtf they must think of me in my thong!
Arghhhhh this "producers inventing new rules" shit really doesn't sit right with me.
Glamourmilf
11-05-2012, 03:36 AM
Just wait until they tell you that they want you to do a mandatory 12 minute show, instead of your usual 7-i.e. anal and deepthroating the entire time-no amount of asking, and pleading with them to change it will work either-btw-what cable or direct tv channel is this on? I can't seem to find it anywhere-and what is the station name?
BritishBecky
11-05-2012, 06:22 AM
^when you get your request you can just change the description of your show - so if it's longer you could maybe include 'striptease' or 'teasing' for the extra minutes
SarahTime
11-05-2012, 12:57 PM
I just felt like it was completely unnecessary for the producer to tell me how to run my show. It wasn't exactly "rude" but it was just annoying and threw me off to have to stop and read this paragraph of a pop up telling me that I wasn't running my show how he/she apparently wanted me to. Tell me if I break a rule or have something copyright in view, fine. But as far as HOW to run the show, really? I get that they want the guys to pledge so that they don't have to foot the bill.... but we do this day in and day out, I think we know how to get the pledges. And if they don't like how we run our shows.... don't pick us?
I probably won't get picked for a show for a while because although I was polite and didn't say anything, I think you could clearly see it irritated me and threw off my "flow".
Also, I'd like to know exactly how they choose the length of the show and the pre show, along with the offer they give. I've been keeping track of my gold shows since they started the TV option, and my offers are always lower than my "30 day average" on any given 30 days. Especially considering the preshow and show length are always longer than my own shows.
I had a feeling there would reach a point where the "cost" of the TV offer would outweigh the benefit... and I think I may be approaching that point.
Especially since we have no way of knowing how many TV viewers are watching us since they do not have to pledge to view the show on TV, only if they want to "interact" aka type to us. I don't know.... quickly becoming not worth it anymore for me....