View Full Version : Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?
Busygirl
09-10-2012, 12:01 AM
this tread to me sounded exactly like a bait for arguments..
So im not posting :P
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Busygirl
09-10-2012, 12:06 AM
you just did, and you killed it....
TheBrownFox
09-10-2012, 07:44 AM
AMEN! I watched this girl get a whopping $12 in pledges that was a smokin' hot pornstar with a goal of $159, fail miserably at her attempt. Let me tell you what I think to be why.... tits out, sucking on dildos repeating over and over the ones for my pussy and this ones for my ass... then she goes on to say that if the gold isnt reached shes going to do it anyway (i'm sure she meant offline but it wasn't obvious as she didn't state this). she was rubbing herself with fingers over panties and under. wow. talkin' hella dirty...i'm glad i'm not the only one in disbelief
Yeah, I've seen a model say a bunch of times "Tip me, guys"..."Tip me, guys," and she wondered why guys weren't chipping in on her GOLD show, while she sat there naked (hand covering her pussy) and getting up to clap her booty. Also, she had a very low buy-in price for each guy, and a GOLD show goal that wasn't gonna happen with the small amount of guys she had in her room. For example: $1 GOLD for a 15 minute show. Show starts at $100. There's only 7 guys in the room.
And I know a lot of SM models get topless when they're halfway to their goal. Here's the thing about that...let's say your goal is $150, and you make it to $75. You get topless, and guys are drooling and jerking it, but...if you don't earn an amount high enough to satisfy you, all of that money you received to get topless gets sent right back to each guy. So, basically, you just got topless for them for FREE.
I think that if you're gonna get topless prior to the GOLD show, wait 'til you get close enough to the goal that you KNOW you'll start the show...and THEN get topless. Tell the guys that the show will DEFINITELY happen if you get AT LEAST x dollars. When they get you to that minimum amount, THEN go ahead and get topless.
Lucyfur
09-10-2012, 08:19 AM
Yeah, I've seen a model say a bunch of times "Tip me, guys"..."Tip me, guys," and she wondered why guys weren't chipping in on her GOLD show, while she sat there naked (hand covering her pussy) and getting up to clap her booty. Also, she had a very low buy-in price for each guy, and a GOLD show goal that wasn't gonna happen with the small amount of guys she had in her room. For example: </body> GOLD for a 15 minute show. Show starts at 0. There's only 7 guys in the room.
^I'm pretty sure I saw this last night. I kinda felt bad for her for being so desperate. I don't think showing anything before you reach your personal minimum goal is wise idea. Especially after seeing trolls post videos of girls pre-Gold Show goal showing off their lady bits.
Personally I'd rather have a small gold show for a few minutes that'll equal the same or more than I'd make in private for the same amount of time instead of waiting around to be swooped away. Yeah, I'll make way less per person BUT I'll be building a nice base of regulars and some who will take me private immediately after. Then when I'm ready and willing to have a longer countdown I'll have more people willing to chip-in that are aware of my awesomeness.
TheBrownFox
09-10-2012, 09:34 AM
^I'm pretty sure I saw this last night. I kinda felt bad for her for being so desperate. I don't think showing anything before you reach your personal minimum goal is wise idea. Especially after seeing trolls post videos of girls pre-Gold Show goal showing off their lady bits.
Personally I'd rather have a small gold show for a few minutes that'll equal the same or more than I'd make in private for the same amount of time instead of waiting around to be swooped away. Yeah, I'll make way less per person BUT I'll be building a nice base of regulars and some who will take me private immediately after. Then when I'm ready and willing to have a longer countdown I'll have more people willing to chip-in that are aware of my awesomeness.
For some reason, when you quoted my post, certain things from my post didn't show up properly. I was reading your post (with my post quoted) and was like "Huh? My post shouldn't be looking like that." LOL. :P
Lucyfur
09-10-2012, 10:03 AM
For some reason, when you quoted my post, certain things from my post didn't show up properly. I was reading your post (with my post quoted) and was like "Huh? My post shouldn't be looking like that." LOL. :P
I think that maybe it's because I pressed backspace and it took me back a page then when I went forward it had autosaved it so I just used that. It makes you sound ..strange:-\
Fridays
09-10-2012, 10:49 AM
you just did, and you killed it....
Few questions? Just because i,m still a naive cam girl, who wants to learn? ( everybody who saw u posting before knows u are not naive , u seem to understand this job pretty well)
To make customers stay in you room, instead of staying in someone else's who's NOT showing boobs? Competition? ( this is judgement, makes you sound like you are annoyed with them doing it as this might cause YOU not having people in YOUR room)
You experienced you make more money like this?
You don't care, because you just love to show off, even without getting payed for it?(judgement -you sound annoyed that they might enjoy to show off)
You know that customers take cam girls private just to jerk off to their boobs, so why would you give it away for free even if it's permitted by the site? (again you sound annoyed that they give it away for free)
You think we would make more money if nobody would be allowed to show boobs, etc. in free chat? ( again you sound annoyed.. as if ur not making good money because THEY show )
Do you know what dirty talk does to a man? From my experience, of watching their cams, makes them come faster, so shorter session. ( again you sound annoyed that they dirty talk and u dont...)
Men love mystery, so don't you think it makes you look desperate if you just display them for granted? ( judgement - you think they look desperate)
Do i make any sense? lol
Please let's brainstorm this in a friendly way. Chip in if you were experimented with showing and not showing.
The " in a friendly way" seemed to have worked.. lol
I have " judged" others too but I owned it.
You are judging in a " friendly way"... its so manipulating.
And I cant stand that because it is insulting to me to see that you would think Im going to fall for this manipulation.
Tell it like it is and own it.
Like a grown up.
Dont be like" im a lil naive lil girl and I dont know any better, lets talk friendly" lol......
I'd much rather see you say " From my experience this is what happens... piece of advice- dont do it"
Rather than the way you worded your whole post.
I showed my boobs and my booty yesterday when I was really close to reaching my $888 goal..
Are you pissed at that too?
Showing before private, during private,, after private... WHO CARES?
Are you making enough to be happy and not care what others think or do?
I am!
Ya, Im mean........ bu-hu-hu.
GracieBlue
09-10-2012, 11:17 AM
I have to say since this thread I have not been showing tits for gold or really anything. When they say show boobs, I say you have to take me private to see the goodies. 90% of the time this weekend after I say that, they take me private. This has just been my experience. Everyone should do what works for them and what they are comfortable with.
Incantatious
09-10-2012, 11:36 AM
The incredibly diverse ways different camsites operate, throws the entire context of the OP into this weird, potentially shady / potentially offensive / potentially "O hai! I am new girl! Now I tell seasoned camgirls how to do their jobs by blasting out a few dozen heated questions" territory, which is why I believe Fridays had the reaction she had to it.
The plain truth of it is this:
You can show everything aside from cooch in free chat and make bank.
You can be fully covered and make nothing.
You can be fully covered and make bank.
You can show everything aside from cooch and make nothing...
Different techniques work for different nights and different sites.
Some girls have very firm boundaries about what they will and will not show in free chat, and that's fine. Some don't, that is also fine. It's all about what works for each performer.
It's never been an entirely one-size-fits-all approach. Hustle needs to be chopped and changed and adjusted to fit over new clients and their behavior in drones!
I was LOVED on Streamate last night. Tonight? Who knows? I've no idea how I will behave tonight. Playing it by ear seems good.
I am assuming that busygirl has witnessed a girl (or girls) doing badly...
I've a feeling that every time we see a camgirl doing badly, we secretly assume we might be able to do it better "if only she'd have done this!", "OMG if only she stopped doing that!" - when we forget the fact that we are:
1. Sitting on our ass watching another girl trying to make money whilst we DON'T make ANYTHING... because we're watching her instead!
2. And we have made exactly the same mistakes, or been in exactly the same situation... possibly whilst being watched by another camgirl who thinks we're "doing it wrong"...
Bah. If I'm making money on something that displeases someone other than my paying audience (because that is all I am focused on when I'm working], I'm dandy.
The reason we see girls behaving in ways that surprise us when we log into their rooms, is likely because it, at some point, has made them money.
Therefore if you see a girl showing tits / dirty talking / , that's [I]probably what she's trying to do - do what she has done before and make her money - being as it has either worked for others, or it has worked for her in the past. If it doesn't make her any money, I'd bet she'll stop the moment she realizes it isn't working.
Busygirl
09-10-2012, 11:40 AM
I was busy all weekend with personal stuff, so i didn't watch you reaching your high goal, or any other goals Fridays. Congrats!
Fridays
09-10-2012, 11:50 AM
I was busy all weekend with personal stuff, so i didn't watch you reaching your high goal, or any other goals Fridays. Congrats!
doesnt matter if u saw me or not.
hum...
Keep having this false "naive" behavior...
Might work on the sites, with the guys.. but it doesnt work here.
this is real talk.
justanothercamgirl
09-10-2012, 12:02 PM
The incredibly diverse ways different camsites operate, throws the entire context of the OP into this weird, potentially shady / potentially offensive / potentially "O hai! I am new girl! Now I tell seasoned camgirls how to do their jobs by blasting out a few dozen heated questions" territory
Oh hai! I love you for this post. <3
loveshooks
09-10-2012, 12:54 PM
I was wondering when the earnings pissing contest would start.
I think this thread demonstrates that there's as many unique ways to bank in this business as there are chicas working in it. There's some really wicked posts in this thread but it's turning ugly.
We encounter enough judgement on cam from the trolls, so I'm closing this thread