View Full Version : The " Gold Shows" thread...
DoodlebugBites
10-20-2012, 08:37 PM
it's a little more like naked, naughty hangout time
I love this description! Even though I didn't request it I got approved for Gold (I think it was wrapped in w/ the broadcasting opt-in they are offering), so I thought I might as well try one.
My only reason is that the new models page doesn't seem to have as many gold so it might make me pop more, and also I am just trying different things as I am getting started. Gold shows really kind of make me feel icky but I'm going to have fun with it and see where it goes.
italianstarcamgirl
10-20-2012, 09:05 PM
I really have a love/hate relationship with gold shows. They are great when they work out but piss me off and make me just want to log off if I can't get any of 30+ guys to pledge in. The guys are so cheap. So you are going to sit in my room for the whole countdown, not say a word AND not pledge or even worse beg...Can I see feet bb, show your ass, show your pussy. Fucking pledge 3 bucks you cheap bastards and you will see it. one thing that works is when I say..."I'm going to start kicking people who arnt pledging or contributing in anyway....sorry guys, bye bigcock4u, ect ect" Then what do you know....they start pledging.
When I'm only doing private exclusive I do not tease like I do when I'm doing a gold show. I hate that all those cheapos see me topless for free if I get 1/2 way to gold. It's almost like they are getting off in free chat.
I wish SM would implement some sort of rule or whatever that if a member sits in gold countdown for longer than say 3 mins without pledging they are automatically booted from the room....then maybe they will pledge and those last minute pledgers will pledge before the last 30 seconds.
bombassbitch
10-20-2012, 10:18 PM
BOOO!! Gold shows!! BOOO!!
:P
Fridays
10-20-2012, 10:54 PM
I wish SM would implement some sort of rule or whatever that if a member sits in gold countdown for longer than say 3 mins without pledging they are automatically booted from the room....then maybe they will pledge and those last minute pledgers will pledge before the last 30 seconds.
great idea!
I wish the sites would listen to us..
we are facing alll and every problem you can think of.
they should listen to us..
why dont they?:(
MissAdriana
10-21-2012, 09:49 AM
I really have a love/hate relationship with gold shows. They are great when they work out but piss me off and make me just want to log off if I can't get any of 30+ guys to pledge in. The guys are so cheap. So you are going to sit in my room for the whole countdown, not say a word AND not pledge or even worse beg...Can I see feet bb, show your ass, show your pussy. Fucking pledge 3 bucks you cheap bastards and you will see it. one thing that works is when I say..."I'm going to start kicking people who arnt pledging or contributing in anyway....sorry guys, bye bigcock4u, ect ect" Then what do you know....they start pledging.
I do this too! Except they don't pledge for me they leave. It's a good way to get the room cleared of freeloaders though!
Sometimes if there are a lot of lurkers not talking or pledging (even if I'm not in a gold show/in reg free chat) I'll just put up a piece of paper to cover the cam or turn the cam to the wall and start bitching them out. The first dumbass to complain about not seeing anything gets banned lol Fun game
temptingmodel
10-21-2012, 10:38 AM
haha I agree with this 100% I use to take all request. Certain things I will not do if the piddly goal is not met. (My ass has literally been on break this week) They can choose positions when they are a high tipper. No longer am I un strapping shoes, going doggy and they get lucky if I decide to use a toy. They want to take their sweet time getting the gold in and I will be just as slow with the show. ;) Name calling? no no no no unless I am talking to a specific customer, usually a high baller and they dont care about a name.
I feel gold shows should be a true "show" and there should be no customers actually making requests during the show (with the exception of perhaps a single high tipper who tipped over $20 choosing positions). I'm not going to take requests from viewers when they paid only a few dollars. To me that is what privates are for.
Ms.Lacey
10-21-2012, 06:10 PM
I only take request if a reg comes in but thats rare because my good regs spend real money. Also my request in show are from dumbasses like feet, anal, tell me where u live so i can fuck u good lol and the best one is "what does ur tat say?" Cuz its hard to focus on my pussy i guess. I will say a name if i get an insane amount like but i dont like saying names even IRL. I like GS but they can fuck up mood that day so i try to joke a bit so i dont spaz the fuck out.
Missbeth
10-22-2012, 06:28 AM
Instead of going lower on your prices, why not increase it, or stay at one price? How long have you been doing gold shows? I think gold shows are the type of thing where you build up regulars over time for them. The more you do them, the more money you can make. Maybe not, but it seems that way.
I agree ever since Ive been doing Gold Shows I always get guys coming into my room from previous Gold Shows going Gold Show bb? Not that Ive actually started one up to see if they'd pledge but I have noticed an increase in ppl being interested who have already seen them....whereas my guys who usually go to private have little to no interest in seeing me do a Gold Show.
TheBrownFox
10-22-2012, 07:59 AM
I don't think I could be a GOLD show kinda girl...lol. I've been in rooms where the model is working really hard (it's sometimes embarrassing) to try to convince cheap guys to buy into her GOLD show, and she'll even tell her one of her regulars "Hey, you can vouch for me...tell these guys how good my GOLD shows are." *facepalm* Well, of course your regulars aren't gonna say anything BAD about your GOLD shows...lol.
There's even a GOLD show SM model who tries to convince guys by telling them "I'm like the ONLY porn star you will find on Streamate." LOL...that's bullshit, but I won't say anything else about THAT matter.....
SarahTime
10-22-2012, 10:24 AM
I don't know what happened but last night gold shows were off the hook for me!!! I was so surprised! I think my new set up had a lot to do with it. I rearranged my cam room because it was starting to feel boring and same same same. I know my regulars definitely loved the change because I can do way more positions easily now. But yah, wtf?! It was crazy good? But that's the thing it's so unpredictable.... tonight will probably suck balls!
sammii
10-22-2012, 02:07 PM
^ Congrats, Sarah ... gold shows failed for me last night (haha), but I'm glad someone had success.
About tonight sucking balls ... there is a presidential debate. Not sure if it will affect camming. I don't usually cam on Monday nights anyway because new episodes of my favorite shows are on, lol.
I don't know what happened but last night gold shows were off the hook for me!!! I was so surprised! I think my new set up had a lot to do with it. I rearranged my cam room because it was starting to feel boring and same same same. I know my regulars definitely loved the change because I can do way more positions easily now.
This is a great idea - I'm going to try rearranging my cam room tomorrow!
SarahTime
10-23-2012, 06:30 PM
This is a great idea - I'm going to try rearranging my cam room tomorrow!
It's been crazy.... changing up my room has been like magic! :D Guess the guys were getting boring with the same old thing. :)
Try it out and see how it works for you!
CammiStar
10-23-2012, 07:12 PM
It's been crazy.... changing up my room has been like magic! :D Guess the guys were getting boring with the same old thing. :)
Try it out and see how it works for you!
I rearrange every few months. I find even if the guys don't notice or care, it generally makes ME feel better and more confident, which in turn makes me money.
whirlerz
10-28-2012, 02:08 PM
I rearrange every few months. I find even if the guys don't notice or care, it generally makes ME feel better and more confident, which in turn makes me money.
Yess! Working on this
whirlerz
10-28-2012, 02:10 PM
I rearrange every few months. I find even if the guys don't notice or care, it generally makes ME feel better and more confident, which in turn makes me money.
Yess! Working on this
MissAdriana
10-29-2012, 10:53 AM
Instead of going lower on your prices, why not increase it, or stay at one price? How long have you been doing gold shows? I think gold shows are the type of thing where you build up regulars over time for them. The more you do them, the more money you can make. Maybe not, but it seems that way.
Yes I ended up increasing it again thanks :) This is my second week doing them. I didn't expect to make the 1st show I did or anything but I did expect to at least get a couple pledges especially after trying them for a couple weeks.
bombassbitch
10-29-2012, 07:16 PM
so far the only gold shows I've ever done were just when I was showering between shows... might as well get paid to wash the oil off my tits/ass, right?
other than that, they can take me private or exclusive :)
italianstarcamgirl
11-05-2012, 11:17 PM
Ugh, gold shows were like pulling teeth tonight! I was able to make some decent money but I had to work extra hard - I don't understand why these guys are such cheap bastards.
CurvyWinona
11-06-2012, 04:22 AM
i don't really do gold shows.. too hard for me. BUT lately, i have been using it for simple requests, mostly fetish, like block session. 50 for 10 min show for guy who is too strapped on cash or whatever. it works for me for slow times and for simple play. if u girls who don't do gold shows can use this route if it is really needed during slow times. its a nice deal for some guys. :) im just throwing this idea on here for u girls.
edited - to be clearly what i did with requested gold shows -
i would put 50 dollar in buy in so they can just buy in full and start the show immediately.
Glamourmilf
11-06-2012, 05:41 AM
Great suggestion! I did see a top model do that a few months ago,and I tried it, and it worked! Those gold show countdowns can be BRUTAL,(especially if u haven't met goal), so it's a nice way to guarantee you will make SOMETHING for the time put in. I have notced that since the gold show option began, my weekly goal has been soooo much more difficult to reach.
TheBrownFox
11-06-2012, 06:21 AM
i don't really do gold shows.. too hard for me. BUT lately, i have been using it for simple requests, mostly fetish, like block session. 50 for 10 min show for guy who is too strapped on cash or whatever. it works for me for slow times and for simple play. if u girls who don't do gold shows can use this route if it is really needed during slow times. its a nice deal for some guys. :) im just throwing this idea on here for u girls.
edited - to be clearly what i did with requested gold shows -
i would put 50 dollar in buy in so they can just buy in full and start the show immediately.
I've already decided that I'm not gonna be doing GOLD shows, however I really like this idea, and I've seen a few models doing it. :) And then if one or two other guys just happen to toss in that amount to get in on the show, even better, right?
This is probably the only way I'd consider doing GOLD shows.
CinnimonKiss
11-06-2012, 08:13 AM
Anyone else having issues with GS's freezing up right before it starts? I have been having this problem for the last couple nights of camming.
What will happen is when I start getting close to the timer being up guys will be throwing in their last Gold and my computer will freeze, the countdown gets stuck on a couple seconds left and I can hear the "dinging" of Gold coming in, so I knoooow im making goal but its frozen as shit !!
When I finally come back from closing down everything or restarting my computer guys tell me on their end its not frozen but for me it is!!!!! :weeping:
The encoder freezes aswell or when I try to shut it down after this happens its has the " not responding " crap come up.
I had about 4-5 GS's last night end this way...when they woulda been successful ! IM LOSING TONS OF MONEY AND ITS PISSING ME OFF !!!! :ouch:
I saw Daisy here on SW posted that it seems to maybe be a issue on Streamates end with the Encoder...but hmm I dunno its bullshit !! I cant work GS's anymore it seems . I might have to write them a message to support !!!
NymphKitty
11-09-2012, 02:09 AM
Ok so I just started camming for SM almost two weeks ago and I'm getting really frustrated at not being allowed to do Gold Shows yet!
Honestly I'd rather do Gold Shows that beg and plead for privates. Plus doing a Gold Show actually gives me something to do....well I think. This is all based on watching other girls and reading this thread.
Unfortunately I got roped in with a studio and when I asked them what I needed to be able to do Gold Shows, she told me I had to use the HD encoder every time, plus do TEN exclusive shows and receive a 4.5 star rating or higher! I've only done ONE exclusive show in two weeks! Granted I haven't put in alot of hours but still, at this rate, ill never be able to do Gold Shows!
Is that normal? Why do they make you wait to do Gold?
italianstarcamgirl
11-09-2012, 02:22 PM
Try changing something up, if you've only done 1 exclusive in two weeks somethings wrong. Are you getting alot of premium chats? I don't believe you have to do 10 exclusives though in order to get gold shows but you do need to be rated a certain amount of times (the amount of times I'm not sure). Start asking guys to rate you 5 stars if you have time after your private.
If you think you are begging now wait until you get GOLD shows - I find exclusives/privates come without convincing. Getting them to pledge is more work IMO.
italianstarcamgirl
11-09-2012, 02:22 PM
Try changing something up, if you've only done 1 exclusive in two weeks somethings wrong. Are you getting alot of premium chats? I don't believe you have to do 10 exclusives though in order to get gold shows but you do need to be rated a certain amount of times (the amount of times I'm not sure). Start asking guys to rate you 5 stars if you have time after your private.
If you think you are begging now wait until you get GOLD shows - I find exclusives/privates come without convincing. Getting them to pledge is more work IMO
Missbeth
11-09-2012, 03:54 PM
Try changing something up, if you've only done 1 exclusive in two weeks somethings wrong. Are you getting alot of premium chats? I don't believe you have to do 10 exclusives though in order to get gold shows but you do need to be rated a certain amount of times (the amount of times I'm not sure). Start asking guys to rate you 5 stars if you have time after your private.
If you think you are begging now wait until you get GOLD shows - I find exclusives/privates come without convincing. Getting them to pledge is more work IMO
I find privates are a lot less begging also....I have to be up showing off if I want to come close to my measly gold show goal....but I can lay on my bed and get privates usually with no more than 10 minutes in between each one if it's slow....
NymphKitty
11-09-2012, 06:24 PM
Lol well maybe i just suck then......i never have time to ask after privates because they always just leave, no word or warning, usually when im still spread eagle. Its embarassing.
And it was my studio agent that told me i needed 10 exclusives....i emailed her and asked, thats what she said. :( im looking for other cam sites anyway.
italianstarcamgirl
11-09-2012, 06:39 PM
I'm sorry, I did not mean to make you feel like you suck . I started back in August on cams.com and if it weren't for a few guys that came in my room and told me I needed a better cam I'd still be camming with my shit built in laptop cam. I'm not saying you have a bad cam lol - just that camming is a learning experience. I have since upgraded all of my equipment, got better lighting, learnt how to hustle. Its def a learning experience and I am still learning myself. I didn't mean to make you feel inferior with my comment - I was suggesting that maybe something needs to be tweeked - even something as simple as lighting.
Spend some time reading through these threads here on SW, there is everything you would ever want to know about camming and just an awesome resource of information - without I would not be anywhere near where I am earning wise.
Goodluck!
NymphKitty
11-09-2012, 06:49 PM
oh no! i wasnt like offended or anything. i totally appreciate your input.....i have been thinking that for some reason my traffic is slow on SM and again im unhappy with the site in general.
And yeah i just joined this forum and i love the commardery (sp?) everyone here seems to have! it has definitely been alot of help
RaineyLane
11-10-2012, 01:16 PM
I got approved for Gold Shows after my first night! I had three 5 star rated privates all in HD. Not sure how it works. They also gave me the TV request. Good luck. Hope you get approved I don't really like them, but after reading this thread my try them again...
BritishBecky
11-10-2012, 02:28 PM
You def need to be using the HD encoder to get gold shows, not sure about the 10 exclusives - that seems weird!
Mlle_Mystere
11-10-2012, 06:39 PM
I got approved for goldshows having never used the encoder... it was very strange and sudden.
TheBrownFox
11-10-2012, 08:02 PM
When y'all do Gold shows, do you have to give members a pre-show lecture about how barking orders during the show ain't cool? Lol. Or are the members who chipped in usually pretty respectful and let you just do your thing? It's not as bad as how guys on MFC are during public shows (Do this, do that...), right?
That would have to be super annoying to be in the middle of a Gold show, and to look up and see a bunch of jerks demanding "Do anal, bb" and then get all pissy 'cuz you don't cater to their demands.
italianstarcamgirl
11-10-2012, 08:12 PM
The minimum tippers tend to demand - I just ignore them. I find them high tippers just ignore them. On another note my gold shows were awesome tonight!! Maybe because there are not many models on doing gold shows.
Sunnylexie
11-10-2012, 10:34 PM
Ok so I just started camming for SM almost two weeks ago and I'm getting really frustrated at not being allowed to do Gold Shows yet!
Honestly I'd rather do Gold Shows that beg and plead for privates.
Let me break your illusions. Once you have those gold shows, you will have to beg and plead for, say, $5 instead of $30 he'd give for a short pvt, and you'll have to beg from 10 or more men, not one, to do a single show. Will it make you feel good about yourself? And keep in mind: the less the minimum pledge is, the less respectful they are: the ridiculous prices somehow make them think you're in extreme need and they feel fucking entitled. Like: well, girl, given my dollar is so precious for you that you're offering a full show for it, you aren't working hard enough to convince me to give it to you. To me, the whole gold show stuff is like a begging marathon. "A dollar, please, kind sir! I will fist all my holes, squirt to stain the ceiling every minute and fart the National Anthem in the end! Just a dollar!" And the kind sir would answer: "Oh, but you have to be naked when asking".
Cam_Model_Jess
11-11-2012, 07:08 AM
I've never heard anything about needing 10 exclusives to do gold shows. I don't know your studio owner, but that sounds like something she just made up to justify why she's unable to help you.
If you got approved after your first night after only 3 ratings it's b/c you applied for TV. of course they're gonna approve those first, especially since you have no history of attained goals and you're a blank slate for them in inscribe with whatever earning potential you possess for them.
In order to get an overall 5 star rating, you need at least 5 ratings of 5 stars.
I did gold shows for a while and found that they were awesome for a few nights and then totally detrimental to my earnings. Some of my regulars refused to spend money on me after that, other than in a gold show, and it took months to get others back. Even after repeatedly telling them I wouldn't do gold shows.
I think it's an awesome tool for a lot of girls, but it's just not for me. It's certainly not the be all end all of working SM. I make more money now (without gold shows) than I ever did before I got approved for them. So if SM is slow to approve you, focus on what you CAN do to make money instead of on how much money you think you could be making if you had gold shows.
TheBrownFox
11-11-2012, 11:21 AM
The less the minimum pledge is, the less respectful they are: the ridiculous prices somehow make them think you're in extreme need and they feel fucking entitled. Like: well, girl, given my dollar is so precious for you that you're offering a full show for it, you aren't working hard enough to convince me to give it to you. To me, the whole gold show stuff is like a begging marathon. "A dollar, please, kind sir! I will fist all my holes, squirt to stain the ceiling every minute and fart the National Anthem in the end! Just a dollar!" And the kind sir would answer: "Oh, but you have to be naked when asking".
And don't forget the ones who ask "Tits out halfway?" or "What does the highest tipper get?" or "When you're about to cum, can you scream my name, bb? It's Michael." LMFAO!!! The cheap bastards are already getting a great deal on a show, and they got the nerve to ask the model to throw in extras...smh.
Missbeth
11-11-2012, 11:35 AM
And don't forget the ones who ask "Tits out halfway?" or "What does the highest tipper get?" or "When you're about to cum, can you scream my name, bb? It's Michael." LMFAO!!! The cheap bastards are already getting a great deal on a show, and they got the nerve to ask the model to throw in extras...smh.
I NEVER do tits out halfway.....the guys who ask for that NEVER join the show in my expirence....I'm pretty sure they just go to all the gold show rooms at the time just in hopes to see something for free..
I know this is part of some girls hustle and it may work for them, but in classic chat I can get 5-10 gold just for a flash depending on what I ask for that day so no way am I showing them for free,
SexKitten123
11-11-2012, 12:00 PM
LMAOO I couldn't have said it better. Been on SM for two years full time. They should have made it 1.00 per minute MINIMUM but now everyone is giving away the farm. You will see the highest traffic girls doing the worst job of screwing everyone else over. One model will do a 2.00 show and give away 10+ videos on top of that, has the traffic to do so, and sells shows, therefore setting the pace for the site members to devalue every other kind of show. Works for her, great, but guys come to expect that.. sidenote- what happens when everyone she gives all this stuff to has it, has seen it? Those guys do not return. Not the best long term plan.
Lots of other girls doing the same.
I used to sell GS no prob, 10 for 10 or better, now 3 for 7 seems the most common combo and guys balk at that. LMAO on the sales pitches, they are exhausting and demeaning IMHO. But, now most of SM's traffic is GS dependent, it is going to take all of us to boycott them slowly and get BACK to privates and $$$$.. I was doing 5 GS a day but now I refuse to do more than 2 because its usually a waste of time. IMHO the laziest camgirls do*only* goldshows, their shows are fairly vanilla/boring and then guys also are getting jaded on that, they feel bored with it, and maybe even ripped off (they tell me).
So, if you offer private/exclusives, you will be better off, cuz if you value yourself and your time, GS is a losing proposition and only makes you feel like a failure when they don't sell out ;o)
Just my two cents.. hehe
SexKitten123
11-11-2012, 12:03 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAHAHAHHAHAHH yes!!!!!! I wish they would remove GS.. I bet even SM would make more money back. I think thats what is killing their profits, and why they had to do the dang TV channel which further messed up the tech side and is causing even more problems.
TheBrownFox
11-11-2012, 12:18 PM
I thanked your post because I definitely agree about too much being given away for dirt cheap (and cheap shows attracting the bottom of the barrel), but we're not supposed to put fellow models on blast on here. Maybe next time you should say "And I see certain models - who shall remain nameless - ..."
SexKitten123
11-11-2012, 12:21 PM
fixed, thanks for the headsup!
Missbeth
11-11-2012, 12:22 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAHAHAHHAHAHH yes!!!!!! I wish they would remove GS.. I bet even SM would make more money back. I think thats what is killing their profits, and why they had to do the dang TV channel which further messed up the tech side and is causing even more problems.
Sometimes I think this....If they removed GS's they might make more....but if they did girls would just lower pvt rates really low AND SM would miss out on an entire demographic of "cheap guys". Some of the guys who participate in gold shows are just freeloading losers but some of them probably dont make that much or are younger(which means they prob dont make as much).
Some guys just dont have $3.99-7.99 to spend on pvt every minute and Im okay with that which is sometimes why I do gold shows...for every gold show I get usually only 1out of every 5 guys in it are barking orders which means the other 4 prob just didnt have the money for a private....where you run into the really cheap losers is in free chat waiting for a GS to start....but they'll also come into your room if you're in Party or Classic chat.
SexKitten123
11-11-2012, 12:59 PM
RE classic chat. One super top earner on SM says to NEVER go into party chat unless you plan on doing a GS (she never does those) because guys cannot see how many guys are in your room they also do not know if you are a high or low traffic girl, and you get more privates. I tried it last week, IT WORKS. The only pain in the butt is having to log in and out and in and out to switch to do GS. That sucks. If it were like Flirt you wouldnt have to.
IMHO i do not think guys should ever see how many guys are in a girl's room, no matter what kind of show. If there are 200 and nobody's buying = you suck. If there are 2 guys and nobody's buying = you suck.. See? If they dont know, it's better for sales.
Missbeth
11-11-2012, 01:03 PM
RE classic chat. One super top earner on SM says to NEVER go into party chat unless you plan on doing a GS (she never does those) because guys cannot see how many guys are in your room they also do not know if you are a high or low traffic girl, and you get more privates. I tried it last week, IT WORKS. The only pain in the butt is having to log in and out and in and out to switch to do GS. That sucks. If it were like Flirt you wouldnt have to.
IMHO i do not think guys should ever see how many guys are in a girl's room, no matter what kind of show. If there are 200 and nobody's buying = you suck. If there are 2 guys and nobody's buying = you suck.. See? If they dont know, it's better for sales.
I agree with this 100%
I do about 3 Gold Shows a week if that....
I ALWAYS am in Classic chat....I cant make shit in party chat bc no one ever wants privates....plus they can see what each other are saying so they start to gang up on you with the "show tits bb" " you're expensive bb"
SexKitten123
11-11-2012, 01:08 PM
hmmm i never thought of that. good point. Classic it is!!!
italianstarcamgirl
11-11-2012, 06:04 PM
I'll have to give this a try when I feel anti gold show....thanks for the tip
TheBrownFox
11-11-2012, 07:05 PM
I cant make shit in party chat bc no one ever wants privates....plus they can see what each other are saying so they start to gang up on you with the "show tits bb" " you're expensive bb"
Yup, I get enough of the "Show tits" and "You're expensive" guys as it is in Classic Chat, so I imagine it'd really be crazy in Party Chat mode. Another reason I prefer Classic Chat is the possibility of someone coming in my chat one day and blurting out something personal that others are NOT supposed to see/hear.
Sunnylexie
11-12-2012, 06:00 AM
Yup, I get enough of the "Show tits" and "You're expensive" guys as it is in Classic Chat, so I imagine it'd really be crazy in Party Chat mode.
LOL, those losers would act the same no matter if you are in Classic charging 5 a minute or in Party gathering it for a 0.5/min Gold show. It's OK when someone bitches about expensive pvts: in the final count, the loser will just go elsewhere. But when a guy expresses doubt you are worth, say, 0.5 a minute and tries to get support from other potential GS viewers to press you into lowering it to 0.2 a minute - THAT IS A FUCKING INSULT. Every time I see someone acting like that during my GS countdown, I just cancel the show. If there IS a pussy not worth 0.5 a minute - you DON'T want to see it, guys.