View Full Version : Suspended from Streamate for something I didn't do :(, please help
Jessica1001
12-31-2012, 06:36 PM
Also I've made alot of money on streamate the past couple of days, around 800/day... and I am a black girl... does that have anything to do with it??
Yep. Black girls aren't allowed to make that much on SM... only us white girls can. :-P
(Totally missed this sentence in the OP until Sarah pointed it out! Sighhhhh.... lol!)
I'm thrilled that you're having so much success.... I think it's important to have examples of women who make extremely good coin of ALL colours, races, shapes, sizes, etc.
(Also, I agree with whoever said earlier that you are RETARDEDLY gorgeous! You'd make money even if you were green, girlie.)
Glad you got back online! Now let's see you double it and have a 1.5k night? Make us proud. :-)
Edited to add:
Holy jesus rollerblading Christ! Just popped in on you for a sec, and.... YOU MUST IMMEDIATELY DOUBLE YOUR PRICES!!! O.o Here... this will help you: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169252-Raise-Your-Rates-Challenge! and: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?166860-Please-Stop-Being-Cheap-%28-!!!!!!!!!!%29
You'll thank me later. :-)
LAChloe
12-31-2012, 06:41 PM
(Also, I agree with whoever said earlier that you are RETARDEDLY gorgeous! You'd make money even if you were green, girlie.)
Word. You are beautiful. You could be a supermodel. Honestly.
Decalyn
12-31-2012, 06:51 PM
It honestly bothers me that there's so much "ZOMGWATRMRK" in this thread. :( I've specifically asked multiple times if I was allowed to watermark on SM, and have been told (with almost the same copypaste every time) that you can watermark with either your username, or your cammodels link. Now I'm worried. .... Though I did save those emails, so I suppose I can toss those their way if they suspend me for watermarking? Sort of a "Hey, I asked for (and received) permission first"?
Mlle_Mystere
12-31-2012, 07:00 PM
Decalyn, I think the difference is that the username isn't associated with a specific site, and the cammodels link is meant for promo, so it's kind of in a unique category of it's own. Personally, I just don't watermark because using the encoder is enough of a software hassle for me, and I think if I really wanted to stamp all my footage with my name I would put decals on my walls like Amica Bentley aka KinkyDirtyBitch.
Cam_Model_Jess
12-31-2012, 07:02 PM
Oh, I've never even read it. Deleting post...^^
No no no don't delete it. I was laughing b/c it says in the contract that it can't be discussed. But since it can be accessed on the internet w/o logging into the site, it's public info.
It'd be great to access the link if you wanna put it back....
Cam_Model_Jess
12-31-2012, 07:10 PM
Um... chica, up to $5.99 you go.....
do it do it do it do it do it
}:D
I perved you for a minute. One word of advice... ask SM for the break button. You might get suspended for leaving your cam alone and on for sooooo long.
twistedprincess
12-31-2012, 07:20 PM
OP: Also, you should totally change your link in your twitter to your cammodels link. Get that extra cash!
Nikki_Fox
12-31-2012, 07:49 PM
quote "ask SM for the break button. You might get suspended for leaving your cam alone and on for sooooo long."
I had an issue with this before when I was brand new - I saw one of the big models leaving a break sign and thought it was ok ( prior to the break button ) - when I emailed them they told me dont worry what anyone else does - if you do it again you are suspended - lol
Incantatious
12-31-2012, 07:50 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m74quxc7ak1qev7ox.gif
Also I've made alot of money on streamate the past couple of days, around 800/day
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmx0g6UYeV1qbub2i.gif
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ypx0BBvL1rulvc3.gif
Hehe! XD
I hope you got your account back so you can keep making awesome money again!
Happy new year!
Cam_Model_Jess
12-31-2012, 08:14 PM
You sure? The only documents I see public is "code of conduct" and "terms and conditions".
Hmmm. I wasn't signed in when I viewed it, for what that's worth
Cam_Model_Jess
12-31-2012, 10:21 PM
:O Duh, I quoted it. It's still there. I gotta stop sniffing glue /:O
Elizabeth2013
12-31-2012, 10:32 PM
I have been suspend in the past before as they said i was taking people to skype. Of which i never did. In fact I would report men for coming in my room and constantly asking me to do skype.
I noticed this was happening to me a lot when i first started cam. After 2 years this barely ever happens.
Every time i email Streamates they take forever to email me back.
The good news is. You will be able to work in a few days.
Cam_Model_Jess
12-31-2012, 10:36 PM
Yeah, I got suspended once. Can't say what for cuz I like my anonymity :) But I will say that I did NOT do what they said I did, and I'm almost positive the screen shot sent to them was of a different model. Doesn't happen often anymore, but it used to be that you'd click on one person's room & get sent into another room instead. A lot of models harass me, so I'm pretty sure it was a model who was just thrilled at the opportunity to turn me in.
I have heard that the ebony section is particularly competitive, so I understand what the OP meant when she mentioned that she's black. Not that SM would suspend her for making money & being black, but that since she's obviously doing well, she would be getting a lot of attention from jealous models. I'm not in the ebony category, but I've heard from several people this is true (lots of models getting reported by other models). However, like I said, I get harassed a lot too, so I think it's all relative.
brownsugardoll
12-31-2012, 10:50 PM
and I am a black girl... does that have anything to do with it??
I'm happy got your account back.
Off Topic: I'm not trying to have any favoritism, I'm happy to see right now 9:41pm seeing 5 black cam models on the first page. WTG ladies! My comment not trying to be offensive at all toward other cam model races. I rarely see more than 1 on the front page. Big accomplishment seeing and it inspires me that we all can do it from hard work :)
bonsaiblossom
01-01-2013, 12:16 AM
omg!!! I had to sign out of sm... Im super sleepy now. I rechecked the thread and omg i love all of you so much!!! thank you for all of your advice and sweet words!!! omfg :)... im scared to raise my rates though, im not THAT cute haha.
Cam_Model_Jess
01-01-2013, 12:25 AM
You're only as cute as you think you are. You'll only make as much money as you think you deserve to make.
Tell them what a luxury you are... and do it with your prices. And if you don't yet believe it, let them convince you when they actually pay what you're charging.
Word
Incantatious
01-01-2013, 12:30 AM
I've barely even seen you around here and I'm already fangirling over you. And yes I agree with the other girls that you should totally raise your rates! I had a sneaky peek at your stream earlier on and you're like some kind of rare Pokemon: beautiful, elusive, and hard as hell to catch (because you're always in private!) XD
...Not that Pokemon get taken private.. Ew.
"Pikachu, I choose you!"
LMFAO I can't believe I seriously just thought that! Ermehgerd! Bad mental images!!
lokikola
01-01-2013, 12:38 AM
lol @ "is it 'cause I'm black?"
bonsaiblossom
01-01-2013, 12:58 AM
I've barely even seen you around here and I'm already fangirling over you. And yes I agree with the other girls that you should totally raise your rates! I had a sneaky peek at your stream earlier on and you're like some kind of rare Pokemon: beautiful, elusive, and hard as hell to catch (because you're always in private!) XD
...Not that Pokemon get taken private.. Ew.
"Pikachu, I choose you!"
LMFAO I can't believe I seriously just thought that! Ermehgerd! Bad mental images!!
i wanna snuggle u so hard. pokemon??? lmaooo!!!! im trying to go to sleep but i cant stop re-reading everyones messages. awwwh *hugs**
bonsaiblossom
01-01-2013, 01:07 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m74quxc7ak1qev7ox.gif
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmx0g6UYeV1qbub2i.gif
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ypx0BBvL1rulvc3.gif
Hehe! XD
I hope you got your account back so you can keep making awesome money again!
Happy new year!
omfg!!! I am laughing so hard !!!!!!! thank you I hope our NYE n NY was good.
HustletteDiva
01-01-2013, 01:07 AM
Hey Bonsaiblossom!
Sorry, that happened to you but guess what? A hater NEVER gets far. She may have knocked you off your path for a millisecond but she has no real power other than to do shit to make you more stronger because in the end YOU are the ONLY one who can officially STOP your Success! Remember that babe! Now all she can do is sit in the background, maybe stalking you and stay mad while YOU make your money. HA! While she is focusing on YOU , she needs to be in her own lane making her own money minding her own business.
[email protected] Hating Chics hiding behind the computer and always worrying about the next woman. Don't even acknowledge haters, they mad about something and it ain't ya problem, it's theirs. Unless they want to make it a "real" problem. hahaha I won't say whether or not a watermark is allowed because I do not have time for debating on such topics when I can get facts from main sources but I will say contact the owners of the site or Streamate Customer Service for clarity on watermark and such. Then contact them a few times since depending on the time or day who you speak with, you will get different answers and save that email for your own records.
Oh, PM coming ya way! =)
P.S. I am so far out the loop or cliques, I kind of want to know who the hating chic is but then again I don't.LOL
bonsaiblossom
01-01-2013, 01:15 AM
Yep. Black girls aren't allowed to make that much on SM... only us white girls can. :-P
(Totally missed this sentence in the OP until Sarah pointed it out! Sighhhhh.... lol!)
I'm thrilled that you're having so much success.... I think it's important to have examples of women who make extremely good coin of ALL colours, races, shapes, sizes, etc.
(Also, I agree with whoever said earlier that you are RETARDEDLY gorgeous! You'd make money even if you were green, girlie.)
Glad you got back online! Now let's see you double it and have a 1.5k night? Make us proud. :-)
Edited to add:
Holy jesus rollerblading Christ! Just popped in on you for a sec, and.... YOU MUST IMMEDIATELY DOUBLE YOUR PRICES!!! O.o Here... this will help you: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169252-Raise-Your-Rates-Challenge! and: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?166860-Please-Stop-Being-Cheap-%28-!!!!!!!!!!%29
You'll thank me later. :-)
lol @ ur first sentance... and to everything else: Omg you are so sweet :). 1.5??? Ahhhh!!! I'm dreaming about the day, I wanna make everyone proud, including myself, if I ever make it to that much i will report back here hehe. double my prices??? girrrrrllllll.... what kind of delusions? lol jk, but thanks for the links, I will check them out :)
Jessica1001
01-01-2013, 01:46 AM
lol @ ur first sentance... and to everything else: Omg you are so sweet :). 1.5??? Ahhhh!!! I'm dreaming about the day, I wanna make everyone proud, including myself, if I ever make it to that much i will report back here hehe. double my prices??? girrrrrllllll.... what kind of delusions? lol jk, but thanks for the links, I will check them out :)
Beautiful girl, can I tell you something? I spent a loooong time charging 3.99, what you're charging. Then... I woke the fuck up.
Today, I charge 9.99 for shows where no one even gets 10% of my full attention. For full attention, it currently costs 14.99 per min.
Am I a different person than 3.99 Jessica? Hell no. I'm older, for one. A little more worn and haggard (I don't think I can pass for the age I wrote in my profile, anymore.) I'm wiser, maybe, but I CERTAINLY no longer put on as awesome a show as I once did. If I could go back and tell $3.99 Jessica a few things, "raise your rates" would be chief among them. But I can't go back in time and tell myself, can I? And so I am telling YOU instead.
Because YOU... are ME. :-)
Your youth is precious--- time is precious. Don't waste it sitting around charging less than you are worth. And you are worth MORE than 3.99. Trust me. It's not my first rodeo. :-)
GlamourRouge
01-01-2013, 02:27 AM
Beautiful girl, can I tell you something? I spent a loooong time charging 3.99, what you're charging. Then... I woke the fuck up.
Today, I charge 9.99 for shows where no one even gets 10% of my full attention. For full attention, it currently costs 14.99 per min.
Am I a different person than 3.99 Jessica? Hell no. I'm older, for one. A little more worn and haggard (I don't think I can pass for the age I wrote in my profile, anymore.) I'm wiser, maybe, but I CERTAINLY no longer put on as awesome a show as I once did. If I could go back and tell $3.99 Jessica a few things, "raise your rates" would be chief among them. But I can't go back in time and tell myself, can I? And so I am telling YOU instead.
Because YOU... are ME. :-)
Your youth is precious--- time is precious. Don't waste it sitting around charging less than you are worth. And you are worth MORE than 3.99. Trust me. It's not my first rodeo. :-)
Well there are pros and cons to this. At a lower rate, you will be in free chat a lot less... and you'll still be on cam the same amount of time because you're still in free chat (and for longer) at a higher rate. Free chat can make you want to log off asap. Also, at a lower private rate, multiple guys will come in at once often times. Today I had 6 guys in private, all for a long time, at $5.49/min each. That's like, $30 a minute.
So while I don't think you should have really low rates, I also don't think you should have too high of rates, especially if you easily get burned out in free chat. Raising your rates skyhigh is not a solve-all for all girls, and sometimes actually hurts them. It depends on the girl.
Vela Valentine
01-01-2013, 03:21 AM
At least play around with different rates. If you've got stamina, which, it sounds like you do, being on cam for long hours, making whatever you said you made in the original post at 3.99, I think you'll find you'll be in LESS pvts, on cam the same amount of time, and possibly able to make the same or more! At least try a dollar raise & start off slow with it, you may be surprised! Good luck :)
ThatBitch
01-01-2013, 03:41 AM
Raising my rates raised my income.
bonsaiblossom
01-01-2013, 07:50 AM
I don't have an option to raise my rates any higher than what they are.. is that something I have to ask SM to do for me? I think I want to keep my rates what they for right now because I dont really have time to play around with different rates because of the sitch I'm in
justanothercamgirl
01-01-2013, 08:17 AM
im scared to raise my rates though, im not THAT cute haha.
"Sex appeal is fifty percent what you've got and fifty percent what people think you've got."
--Sophia Loren
Trust me, she knew what she was talking about. Cute has NOTHING to do with it. ;)
EvilChick1989
01-01-2013, 08:34 AM
I got suspended before a few years back for having a watermark before. The way around it I have noticed is a white board :)
bubblegumbitch
01-01-2013, 10:35 AM
when i raised my rates.. i got the same amount of privates, sometimes more. LONGER shows too overall. i was at 4.99 for sooo long and i just recently raised it too 6.99 and my regs haven't said a word to me still. it isn't always the case that the higher you raise your rates the slower the privates get, trust me that is what kept me from raising them for so long cuz i fucking HATE free chat, so one day, i said fuck it, i wanna reach my fucking soft goal without breaking my back so hard!!! so i raised them and can actually reach my soft goal alot faster with alot less effort!! i don't think raising your rates should be used as a quick band aid fix to a solution but as your tweeking your hustle i find it very IMPORTANT to not leave your rates out of it. as you grow your hustle, your confidence will raise and so will your rates and $$$$$.
sorry end of thread jack
GlamourRouge
01-01-2013, 12:30 PM
when i raised my rates.. i got the same amount of privates, sometimes more. LONGER shows too overall. i was at 4.99 for sooo long and i just recently raised it too 6.99 and my regs haven't said a word to me still. it isn't always the case that the higher you raise your rates the slower the privates get, trust me that is what kept me from raising them for so long cuz i fucking HATE free chat, so one day,
I didn't mean don't raise your rates at all, I meant like, at some point, you will end up making more $$$ with a lower rate if you put it too high. I only charge $14.99 when its insanely busy, but normally mine are around 5.49/8.99... but if I were to always charge 14.99, I would end up making a lot less money except for random extremely busy times. At the end up the day, you just have to do what makes you the most money.
TheBrownFox
01-01-2013, 02:51 PM
my understanding is that sm doesn't go out of it's way to spot/reprimand even the chicas who ARE breaking the 'no outside contact' rules, so it might be that a cam girl actually reported you.
This.
It sounds like something a spying cam girl would do in an attempt to get a fellow model in trouble...smh. Somewhere there is a cam girl butt ass naked, showing her children LIVE ON CAM (which is a NO-NO!), but we're gonna snitch on fellow models trying to advertise their Twitter profile? Petty.....
Jessica1001
01-01-2013, 03:18 PM
I didn't mean don't raise your rates at all, I meant like, at some point, you will end up making more $$$ with a lower rate if you put it too high. I only charge $14.99 when its insanely busy, but normally mine are around 5.49/8.99... but if I were to always charge 14.99, I would end up making a lot less money except for random extremely busy times. At the end up the day, you just have to do what makes you the most money.
Completely agree. There is a price/demand curve, and the idea is to find the 'sweet spot' where those curves intersect, that maximizes your earnings per hour, or whichever parameter it is that you want to maximize.
The thing is: too many girls underestimate the price at which that sweet spot happens. (As evidenced by the all the "OMFG, I was terrified, but I raised my prices and now I am making goal faster! Couldn't believe people would pay so much for me!" posts in the "please stop being cheap" and "raise your rates" threads.)
They just never even TEST the higher prices, because of ingrained invisible scripts that we all have in our heads that tell us we're not good enough, not thin enough, our skin isn't clear enough, hair isn't blonde enough, asshole isn't pink enough, we don't deepthroat deep enough, or whatever the fuck our stupid psyches plant in there.
Sure... if you jack your rates up and find you are making less than what you were making at a lower price, OF COURSE you should lower them down again somewhat. But for god's sake.... TEST IT FIRST! Every business does this! (And by TEST, I don't mean raise them for 1 hour, make peanuts because you're nervous and your customers can see it, panic, and revert back to bargain basement pricing. Try it out for at least a week, preferably a month.)
TheBrownFox
01-01-2013, 03:25 PM
In response to some of the previous comments about rates...don't ever let guys on SM pressure you into lowering a rate that you're perfectly happy with. Every time I cam on SM, I get guys complaining that 5.99/minute is way too high and blah, blah, blah. I remind them that they're on a sex site...not at Dollar Tree (or Walmart). If they want a good show for as cheap as possible, there are plenty of models offering $1 or $2 Gold shows...they can join those shows instead of whining in my room.
Something is wrong when cheapass never-tipped-before guys are telling an experienced ADULT cam model what to charge...and she does what they say. I bet those are the same guys who think they should only have to pay $10 TOTAL for a 10 minute custom video...smh.....
Blovely
01-01-2013, 03:32 PM
I don't have an option to raise my rates any higher than what they are.. is that something I have to ask SM to do for me? I think I want to keep my rates what they for right now because I dont really have time to play around with different rates because of the sitch I'm in
Just email SM through the model support form saying that you want to raise your rates to whatever amount you wish. They will set it for you and email you back once they've changed it. Not to be stalkerish but I saw you on SM like a week or two ago and didn't even know you were on SW. I'd say welcome but you've already been here a while. Also Congrad-u-fuckin-lation for make $800/day. That's crazy and now I wanna get like you lol. Time to up my hustle.
xxtinamariexx
01-01-2013, 06:55 PM
what gets me is when someone does something wrong, gets into trouble and it's something that they honestly didn't realize was wrong, but then you have others, one I see online now, that has in her room topic nothing is taboo for me, young little girl looking to have dirty fun w my daddy.. I mean wtf..
Via Flaminia
01-01-2013, 07:40 PM
Every time I cam on SM, I get guys complaining that 5.99/minute is way too high and blah, blah, blah. I remind them that they're on a sex site...not at Dollar Tree (or Walmart).
Seriously, it's the whining that gets me. I want to laugh/cry/throw something each time I hear this bullshit. BrownFox I wish I could handle it as well as you. I usually respond with bitter sarcasm and sometimes it has an effect on my earnings. hahaha. I'm working on that.
To the OP, you are beautiful and congratulations on your continued success. I am sorry the SM crap happened at the worst possible time for you.
I think it's ok to want to know the name of someone who possibly ratted you out. Keep friends close, enemies closer.
VoluptiousBriadda
01-01-2013, 10:41 PM
"Sex appeal is fifty percent what you've got and fifty percent what people think you've got."
--Sophia Loren
Trust me, she knew what she was talking about. Cute has NOTHING to do with it. ;)
holy shit,im SERIOUSLY loving that quote- and its from Sophia Loren for Christs sake! im writing this down on a pc of paper and putting it under my pillow tonight lol
ABigNerd
01-01-2013, 11:12 PM
I'm really sorry someone would report you like that. That sucks, and I hate that people feel the need to screw with someone else's cash flow. Be grateful it was only a day. They can terminate your account and keep all of the money you've already made for a violation of your contract. My personal rule with streamate is ask before you act. They're usually pretty cool about explaining the nuances of their rules.
bubblegumbitch
01-01-2013, 11:26 PM
holy shit,im SERIOUSLY loving that quote- and its from Sophia Loren for Christs sake! im writing this down on a pc of paper and putting it under my pillow tonight lol
it's also from the "Why Men Love Bitches" Book. i highly suggest you pick up a copy
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?143611-Why-Men-Love-Bitches-This-Sh*t-REALLY-works&highlight=men+love+bitches
ThatBitch
01-01-2013, 11:44 PM
I love that this started as a girl being very frustrated with a crappy thing that happened and seemed like nothing could be done about it, and ended up with 1) her getting her SM account back, 2) encouragement and support for her as well as some positive advice and 3) a Sophia Loren quote ;D
Gota love the chics who hang out on stripperweb :)
bonsaiblossom
01-02-2013, 02:47 AM
i love you gals so much!!!
Snowy0Star
01-02-2013, 05:57 AM
How does Streamate know you have Manycams running and will they suspend you just for running it? I dont split because I dont have the bandwith for it but I use Manycams to PiP different angles of my body at the same time in my feed.
temptingmodel
01-02-2013, 06:41 AM
They find you on other sites or models report you for streaming sites, its not the program, it is how the program is used
How does Streamate know you have Manycams running and will they suspend you just for running it? I dont split because I dont have the bandwith for it but I use Manycams to PiP different angles of my body at the same time in my feed.
TheBrownFox
01-02-2013, 07:50 AM
Seriously, it's the whining that gets me. I want to laugh/cry/throw something each time I hear this bullshit. BrownFox I wish I could handle it as well as you. I usually respond with bitter sarcasm and sometimes it has an effect on my earnings. hahaha. I'm working on that.
If a guy says "5.99? Isn't that kind of high?" then my response won't be as "mean" as my other responses...lol. But if it's some jerk who says "5.99??? Who the fuck do you think you are?," I'll probably say something like "I'm The Brown Fox...who the fuck are you? The cheapass dad from 'Everybody Hates Chris'?" LOL.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsl70j03vE1r11ptmo1_500.gif
Nikki_Fox
01-02-2013, 10:43 AM
'Everybody Hates Chris ' is one of my favorite shows :)
bonsaiblossom
01-02-2013, 01:47 PM
I know this is silly, but im scared to ask them anything now...
Via Flaminia
01-02-2013, 10:15 PM
Hi Bonsaiblossom, I wouldn't worry about asking them for anything. I don't think they would put you on a shit list or anything like that after a one-day suspension and your follow-up correspondence.
Actually, unless we keep them on their toes, it might get worse.
I think the management of the company is so arrogant they truly believe they are infallible. They seriously believe the money will keep rolling in no matter how badly they treat people, including the customers.
Not true. Everything comes to an end, as evidenced by Mr. Top Dog at SM getting hit with personal income tax evasion charges (I think) and probably a bunch of other stuff.
In conclusion, bother them as much as you want because you have to do what's best for you.
sexyred
01-02-2013, 11:47 PM
I know this is silly, but im scared to ask them anything now...
Don't worry about it! When I just started back a few months ago, I got suspended for 24 hours over something dumb :(. Right after that, I asked for them to raise my rates, and they just asked how high? Raise them girl!!!
Classy_Katy
01-03-2013, 12:06 AM
Loving this discussion on what to charge as I'll be signing up soon. I don't know if it's the same on SM but on AW, the more you charge the better the customer you attract. With cheap prices you tend to get the "harder, faster, deeper" guys who demand an immediate strip...with higher prices you get more respectful guys.