View Full Version : $500 and under webcam earners thread
SarahTime
01-09-2013, 03:58 PM
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Classy_Katy
01-09-2013, 04:02 PM
It's the same point but it's not relevant for this thread...this is about those of us who are unable to earn more than $500 for various reasons.
StephanieXS
01-09-2013, 04:04 PM
^^
I feel like the fact of context made a difference. Here, we're basically trying to be supportive of each other though we make little money. No one has said they charge low prices, mostly it's the fact of not being on much. So Fridays wasn't saying we should be charging more. It sounded more like we should be working harder and not be satisfied with what we were originally stating we were happy with. In that thread I feel like it was just an overall point, here it felt kind if like an insult.
Classy_Katy
01-09-2013, 04:08 PM
^^^exactly...as I said in an earlier post, I charge more than most on AW but I just can't work outside daytime hours during the week. So I am charging what I am worth and to blame me for not earning more is like saying I'm just a bag of crap for not being able to...maybe I am!
Missbeth
01-09-2013, 04:09 PM
..and this is why we just shouldn't talk about money on CC..I'm not verified yet out of pure laziness but maybe these topics can be kept there?
At least then the whole Internet wouldnt be able to see us bickering.
SarahTime
01-09-2013, 04:15 PM
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TheBrownFox
01-09-2013, 04:16 PM
...why didn't anyone get their panties in a big 'ol wad at Fridays telling everyone to quit being cheap and how we can all do so much better for ourselves if we strive to raise our prices and reach for higher goals???? I didn't see anyone saying, "WELL HOW DARE YOU! I can charge whatever I want and yadda yadda yadda!"
There is a difference...
The 'Please stop being cheap' thread was INTENDED to be a "Wake the hell up, girl, and charge MORE cuz you deserve it!" type of thread. THIS thread had more of a "I may just make 500 and under at the moment, but I'm still grateful to have this job!" feel to it. Know what I mean?
At this point, it really doesn't matter what any of us say. You will continue to defend your friend to the death every time this happens, and we will continue to stand by what we've been saying. If you really feel like you need to take a break from the thread(s) because you feel we "got our panties in a big 'ole wad," then do what you've gotta do.
SarahTime
01-09-2013, 04:21 PM
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lala land
01-09-2013, 04:31 PM
Ok, let's get back to the original thread:
This week, to my disapointment, I'm afraid I will still be in the $500 group.. Haven't been able to work nights on AW and that really shows in my earnings. By working in the day my hourly average has dropped about $10 from last week... And after the weekend (I promiss with you all as my withness) I will finally higher my rates on there, and not chicken out!
In the mean time I'm trying out SM and thats going ok so far, I only have to get used to the low percentage.. So I just raised my rates a bit more to make it worth it, yay!
SarahTime
01-09-2013, 04:32 PM
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RaineyLane
01-09-2013, 04:34 PM
Ok, can we get back to the topic since some of us would really like to graduate from the 500 club? Thanks :)
I have been reading many threads in here to learn how to make more with camming. Do any of the high earners/seasoned models have favorite threads to post? You know, older ones that we might not have found in our searches. I might also add that sometimes a new model doesn't know what to search for in this forum (besides the obvious stickies and 'main' threads for various sites/topics). There's so much here sometimes it's difficult to know where to start.
For me the stalling thread has been really useful lately.
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?150777-Ways-To-STALL-and-Make-More-Money
Alright, I fully realize I'm kinda new but I belong in this group and would like to make more money! I don't want to comment on the other stuff going on in this thread right now. So while we have veteran/high earning girls hanging out in the lower earnings group, I would like to repeat my previous post since apparently it was overlooked among the bickering...
loveshooks
01-09-2013, 04:35 PM
I'm not closing a thread just because people chose to exercise their rights (quite thoughtfully and politely) to challenge something they didn't appreciate or feel was warranted. What happened in this thread will be dealt with privately because we're sick and tired of every earnings thread getting derailed, but I really want to keep it open because I think there's tremendous value here.
As more than one chica has stated...
Ok, let's get back to the original thread
Can we move on to talking about ways we can help chicas NOT making the $$$$ they want boost those earnings? Links to fav posts, threads? Dissecting drama becomes an exercise in futility at some point, and I think we've all reached that point (edit: a few deleted posts below later, I need to make this clear. We're moving on)
This one's my fav: It's long as hell but worth it's damn weight in CLIP ORDER gold :)
housewench
01-09-2013, 04:50 PM
While I like this thread, perhaps it's best if it's moved to a new group?
lala land
01-09-2013, 04:52 PM
Just like RaineyLane I would also like to profit from the veteran girls being here, because I just got an e-mail from a reg asking for a custom video. He wants nothing special, just wants to see me "enjoy myself'. What do you girls think I should ask? He is my most faithfull reg on MFC and always spends on me right when I think I came online for nothing. He also knows I don't do that well on there so I don't feel like I'm in the position to ask for the highest price? I was thinking about asking $40?
BustyAmeera
01-09-2013, 05:03 PM
@Lala Land I don't know about $40. I just got paid $200 from a regular to make two 15 minute customs. And I was even thinking that was slightly low for me, because I don't really like making videos all that much. So that would be $100 per video. Ask for more and see how he reacts.
Billabong
01-09-2013, 05:17 PM
I'm soo ready to move on. This drama is stale. Just when I think it's about to end it flares back up again like the worst case of herpes ever.
bubblegumbitch
01-09-2013, 06:09 PM
these are some threads that have been very helpful for me. may not be directly related to earnings but they boost your camming and comfort which indirectly boosts ur earnings anyways! and sometimes even the smallest adjustments can make the biggest different too.
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?177718-Lighting-recommendation
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?164245-Camming-amp-Cleaning-amp-Keeping-Up!
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?179456-Motivation-amp-Productivity-Great-resources!
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?178709-Camming-How-to-Schedule-Your-Way-to-Freelance-Productivity&highlight=camming+productivity
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?179869-The-Incredibly-Detailed-Guide-to-Computer-Shopping
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169677-webcam-only-how-is-your-room-set-up&highlight=camming+setup
when i find more in my bookmarkings later i will add them here. but this what i got for now :)
laurielegs
01-09-2013, 06:40 PM
How well would it be received if she or I or anyone else started a $2000 and over webcam earners thread... I wonder?
OMG I would totally love a thread like that! I would study it like a book ;)
I will be forever grateful for the raise your rates thread because I had no idea what was possible.
There are still going to be weeks when I make 500 or even less, but not because I'm sitting on cam for 40 hours and making nothing - it is because of my health problems making it impossible for me to work that week.
The cool thing is though that on weeks when I can work more hours I can make enough money so that I can get ahead and not have to add worry on top of dealing with an illness. It's awesome! If not for camming I would be under the poverty line, having to try and live on an impossibly small disability check.
ManyRoses
01-09-2013, 06:46 PM
OMG I would totally love a thread like that! I would study it like a book ;)
I will be forever grateful for the raise your rates thread because I had no idea what was possible.
There are still going to be weeks when I make 500 or even less, but not because I'm sitting on cam for 40 hours and making nothing - it is because of my health problems making it impossible for me to work that week.
The cool thing is though that on weeks when I can work more hours I can make enough money so that I can get ahead and not have to add worry on top of dealing with an illness. It's awesome! If not for camming I would be under the poverty line, having to try and live on an impossibly small disability check.
Seconded!! I would absolutely LOVE that thread - I already love the brag threads!
lala land
01-10-2013, 02:36 AM
I would love a thread like that too! Would read every word twice as an inspiration! I also love the brags thread and the camming ROCKS right now thread. I will always look at those when I´m not motivated enough, and they will make me all pumped up and ready to go.
LolaBohemia
01-10-2013, 02:09 PM
I felt like I was stuck for a really really long time. Before coming on here and knowing what was REALLY possible as opposed to promises by cam sites, I thought I was just screwed because I didn't have a tiny stripper build. I had zero guidance and the only other person I knew that was a camgirl was a veteran who was fairly lazy.
I started off with earnings that embarrass me. Earnings that for each check I make now in a day. Granted I was in a 2 person income household there were no stressors. But now I look back and wonder why I didn't keep pushing.
It wasn't just that, I also had no idea what I was doing. I look back on my early cam days and was impatient, clueless, and not creative. I had no tapped into what was my money maker and that took me a long time.
I had paychecks of $300 and thought that was awesome. >.< Then I started camming full time on another site and was limited having $500/wk be AVERAGE for that site. I thought that's all I could make but was proud either way. I could do that and take proper rest for my health issues because $2K a month is better than any disability check.
The important part is making sure YOU are satisfied and happy. At particular moments in my earning history I was but as I got closer to what helped me feel productive and knew my possibilities, I rose to the occasion.
You will not make bank overnight. Or over a month. It takes a while to get in your jam. And even if earning $500/wk is where you are at, as long as it works, go for it. I try to earn as much as I can when I feel productive/healthy so I can take days off when I want to be social or am sick.
Do what's best for you. Sometimes needs and priorities change but there's nothing wrong with earning less than others on this forum. I'm happy it's not looked at in a shameful or lazy way. Again, it's different for everyone.
RaineyLane
01-10-2013, 03:02 PM
Thanks Loveshooks and bubblebumbitch for posting those great threads! Yay!
I also love the brag threads. Super awesome inspiration! :)
Billabong
01-10-2013, 03:19 PM
Ok I have a rant. This sucks. I raised my rates on all of my sites and no one seems to mind except the guys on SM. I haven't had a private there in 2 weeks, just tips. Waaah.
I've kinda stopped liking SM lately and have been thinking of giving it up. It used to be my fave site and I'd make at least 4 or 500 weekly on there alone, but all I get are guys who stop by room and wanna chat and be bffs or just plain beggers now. I don't know what went wrong for me on that site, but its frustrating because I know I could and should do really well ESPECIALLY on that site. :-\
I mean I guess I could lower my rates again back to the old ones which were moderate, but I really feel like I'm worth the new ones. Especially since I have to put up with free chat.
HustletteDiva
01-10-2013, 03:49 PM
Ladies, Ladies, Ladies, ( SMDH) does it really matter what a another grown a$$ WOMAN price herself or makes? And it really does not matter what someone else thinks about it when it is BEST for your business and yourself. Whether a "woman" charges low or high , makes a little or a-lot, that is her and her business, period. No one really knows what brings you the most money or not, nor do they know your strategy or circumstances on why you work it the way you do. They have no idea if you make money in more ways or not. This is a business at the end of day so do what is best for your business and be HAPPY!
Yes, it feels like more than a business because "We" are the "product" but don't take it too personal, it is still majority business. So do what is best for it! It's always good to charge as high as you can or make as much as you can but that is "IF" that even works "BEST" for you. ( or you want or need too) At the end of the day no one is going to pay YOUR bills, secure YOUR savings, increase YOUR bank account with their "opinions". LHFH Just do you! Be happy that you do your "best" and that you are doing what is the most relevant for you and yours. I mean, strive for the best, but your best is not someone else best. You will kill yourself with stress trying to live up to someone else.
If the way you operate your business makes you happy then do that as that is what will continue to make you more money. When you have good energy, vibes, and mood to work. So if you charge too low and do not like it then raise it but if you raise it high just to be taking forever and a day to make the same amount then lower it. If you make enough in a week then so be it if it makes you work consistently to keep making it or if you make the most you can weekly and can sustain that then do it too. Does not really matter what you choose unless it is good for your own well being and business.
A business is not a one rule fits all operation so treat it as such. I keep saying woman and business because for one just like we all made a decision before SW to do this work, it is our decision when it comes to our business. Most likely going against opinions is what we did coming into the business so do not let people in the business have any affect on your decisions now that are not BEST for you. IJS Take all advice, tips, support, suggestions as such, just opinions and keep it moving. Nobody knows what is best for you but YOU. They are not the ones doing the work or paying you and seeing ALL our money add up, YOU ARE. So until the day they do, keep doing what is working for you.
So be Happy with whatever you do and if your not happy then change it! Arguing on prices, rates, money, that is not yours is irrelevant and pointless. How is Jane Doe affecting my money, I will never know if I am working and making money. =/ Just because John Doe goes to Jane for whatever reason is not affecting me since there is another Tom, Dick, and Harry everyday. Oh and if ya can not ignore people who make you want to argue with them then really either hit that good ole ignore function or maybe you like the drama. IDK Debates are not arguing however some things are just a waste of time.
Keep It Moving and Keep it Pimping Ladies! =)
TheBrownFox
01-10-2013, 04:25 PM
I raised my rates on all of my sites and no one seems to mind except the guys on SM. I haven't had a private there in 2 weeks, just tips. Waaah.
I've kinda stopped liking SM lately and have been thinking of giving it up. It used to be my fave site and I'd make at least 4 or 500 weekly on there alone, but all I get are guys who stop by room and wanna chat and be bffs or just plain beggers now. I don't know what went wrong for me on that site, but its frustrating because I know I could and should do really well ESPECIALLY on that site. :-\
I mean I guess I could lower my rates again back to the old ones which were moderate, but I really feel like I'm worth the new ones. Especially since I have to put up with free chat.
Maybe with so many models offering Gold shows, some of the guys are making the decision to do what is cheaper for their wallet, which would mean paying $6 for a 10-minute Gold show...as opposed to paying $6 per minute in premium or exclusive. I think the exception to this would be the guys who would much rather pay a little more to get the model alone (exclusive), and another exception would probably be our regulars who would much rather spend more money on premiums/exclusives with their favorite models. Like if a guy has an absolute favorite SM model who DOESN'T do Gold shows, and she happens to be on right now, if he's horny he'll probably be willing to take her private...even if there are cheaper options available for him elsewhere.
I know that a while back, some of the girls on here said that they weren't getting as many premiums/exclusives when Gold shows started becoming popular. So I'm not sure if that's what's going on now?
temptingmodel
01-10-2013, 04:56 PM
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I know that a while back, some of the girls on here said that they weren't getting as many premiums/exclusives when Gold shows started becoming popular. So I'm not sure if that's what's going on now?
Its a BITCH to find a happy medium with Gold Shows and Privates. For me , it is half and half.
All of us have a opinion and here is mine
YAY for the ladies that work w disabilities (honestly had NO CLUE) YAY for the Ladies who jam this gig after working at a Vanilla job, coming home, tending to personal and making time to get on cam, YAY to the ladies who make the income they need ..
YAY FOR ALL OF US! One way or another from 1.00 -100000000000.00 all of us found a way to make it work and continue to do better
Billabong
01-10-2013, 06:28 PM
Maybe with so many models offering Gold shows, some of the guys are making the decision to do what is cheaper for their wallet, which would mean paying $6 for a 10-minute Gold show...as opposed to paying $6 per minute in premium or exclusive. I think the exception to this would be the guys who would much rather pay a little more to get the model alone (exclusive), and another exception would probably be our regulars who would much rather spend more money on premiums/exclusives with their favorite models. Like if a guy has an absolute favorite SM model who DOESN'T do Gold shows, and she happens to be on right now, if he's horny he'll probably be willing to take her private...even if there are cheaper options available for him elsewhere.
I know that a while back, some of the girls on here said that they weren't getting as many premiums/exclusives when Gold shows started becoming popular. So I'm not sure if that's what's going on now?
I think you're right. I made way more money before gold chat. I'm just now coming back after a nearly 2 year break and its not been the same for me at all. I struggle to even make $100 a week on SM now. So crazy. I guess I'll keep at it and like you say, hope to get more Sm regulars who are willing to pay for me :):)
CurvyWinona
01-10-2013, 06:35 PM
I was able to receive social security disability checks, but I chose camming because I can make a whole month of SDI check only in a week and I am able to do part time vanilla job (as secure income) just ok. HOORAY FOR CAMMING! Some days or weeks may be very hard to reach the goals but over the time, I have been getting better and better! Actually, last week was my most highest earning week, about double the usual earning! :D Keep up, girls!
LilRedRidinGood
01-10-2013, 08:59 PM
I make $500 per week doing fetish related stuff and rarely turn on my cam, ever.
JMO sometimes girls work too hard for too little. Thinking outside the box is very profitable.
justanothercamgirl
01-10-2013, 09:14 PM
You know, you can just choose to never speak to each other. It makes life a lot easier. You will be more calm and have a lot of peace of mind. Problem solved :)
But why would I want too? I honestly try to understand the opinions that others bring to the table -- even if they are completely opposite of my own. I can never grow as a person if I refuse to challenge my own personal assumptions.
heraax
01-11-2013, 12:01 AM
Try under $100 a week...
I'm still newish though, and still learning LOADS of new things.
Are there any threads with pointers that I can be linked to? I mean, I'm already poking around and realizing that 90% of what I've been doing is, at the least, detrimental.
The sucky part is that I can't actually get on cam for hours at a time. I have a roommate and no private "bedroom" of my own. Silence is key. >_<
I've found some guys who like the idea that I'm putting on a show and could get caught, but most days/nights it's not worth it, unless I'm super behind.
temptingmodel
01-11-2013, 12:05 AM
What do you think you are doing wrong? Feel free to PM me and maybe I can brainstorm for you the best I can.
1. You need privacy unless the roomie will join (hella bank for that , if willing)
2. Toys
3. Make yourself pretty
4. SMILE number 1 KEY in this biz that a lot of ppl forget (everyone hates a debbie downer, my sales go down w that)
5. Stay focused on cam, to clients to requests, say hi, be flirty
6. Good lighting , cam and pc
7.Find a niche if you dont have one.. there is one for most girls
8.Dont let trolls (assholes) bring you down
Have you read this?
Sometimes it is helpful to observe other girls from the "sidelines" , dont be rude, dont say you are a model, tip if you can, if you cant Suggest NOT logging in as a member. All models hate ppl staring at them. ;) Hope you can use some of this
For now that is the most I can think of
majority of us started lower, the money doesn't come easily and time can be a big factor with the issue
Try under $100 a week...
I'm still newish though, and still learning LOADS of new things.
Are there any threads with pointers that I can be linked to? I mean, I'm already poking around and realizing that 90% of what I've been doing is, at the least, detrimental.
The sucky part is that I can't actually get on cam for hours at a time. I have a roommate and no private "bedroom" of my own. Silence is key. >_<
I've found some guys who like the idea that I'm putting on a show and could get caught, but most days/nights it's not worth it, unless I'm super behind.
Glasses
01-11-2013, 03:18 AM
I'm in this club. And on 500$/week I can live like a queen. Yeah, even after taxes. (around 220$ a month, includes all the taxes, complete health insurance, dental, eye - everything I don't have to pay a dime if I don't want to go to the luxorious clinics)
My father held the second highest position in a factory, with tons of responsibilities, lots of people to control, extra hours, he often had his phone ringing even if he just arrived home after a 12 hour long day, and he didn't reach the 500$/week mark every month.
I know that I can reach for the sky with this job, but at the moment I don't really feel the urge.
Not so long ago I bombarded myself with "should"s, felt like failure, and guilty seeing how much others are making, saying rather hamburger flipping for that money, fucking yourself for that money isn't worth it etc. It took me a while to realize that I'm not them, I have a different life, different needs, different things satisfy me yadayada.
Of course I do this for the money. The "easy" money. If I wanted to slave away in front of the computer to make more more more... then I would just use the law education, and slave away in front of a desk. Why to risk the stigma if I cannot enjoy the benefits other than money? I have other ways to make lots of money, but that doesn't have these benefits.
I'm not saying I will never work more, or I don't wanna make more at all. But I choose to work this much, I know the consequences, and I'm fine with that. :)
Besides as time goes the same effort brings in more and more money.
Currently I'm looking into spending even more time away from home on myself, with horse riding and everything comes with that (grooming them, cleaning the equerry). I was like 14 when I had time to go to a farm for horse riding several times a week!
FiendishGyrator
01-11-2013, 04:51 AM
Exactly. It's awesome to be the Ant in the Grasshopper and the Ant Aesop's Fable, in terms of money production and savings. We should all be saving for a rainy day, and we shouldn't be the grasshopper (if we can help it) playing all summer long and then having to borrow because we weren't working.
But, like having a healthy relationship with food, we should work to live, not live to work. If you can work, pursue your interests, possibly even eventually creating another side job from those side interests in the future, pay your bills, take care of those dependent on you, and save some for a rainy day-- well then, better that than working so much that you find it unenjoyable, hardly get to see your family and are crabby/sleepy when you do, get caught up in the consumerism and buy more stuff because you have more money, and then you have to make more money because you're trained to buy more stuff.
I mean, who would you rather be if you got hit by a bus tomorrow?
There's certainly a balance, but we're all women here. We've got the big girl panties and get to decide what we do to live. Should we all consider that we can always do better? SURE! Otherwise, it'd be pretty boring and we'd take life for granted because we couldn't accomplish more. But it is true: threads like this are good to appreciate what you've got even if compared to others; you might not be as well off in terms of what society judges to be most important-- money, but if you've got some work that supports you, and an appreciation for what it gives you, then awesome!
I rarely, rarely cam. I've read a lot about it and keep meaning to do it more and establish a clips store and a regular schedule and what not, but currently I get by with some busy weeks escorting and some slow weeks because I'm goofing off, taking care of my family, or looking into other business adventures.
This week I started a new business adventure. I've only made a couple hundred dollars, but as time goes by I should have a healthy side income coming in for easy work, that I don't have to work as hard as I have this week because I understand the system's pros and cons better. I need and want to make more money, but at the moment, I have two fridges/freezers stocked full of healthy and delicious food, my kitchen is semi-clean, I got my boyfriend great presents for Christmas (some that I enjoy using myself :)) and life is...well, peaceful and good. The only stormclouds on my horizon are making more money in the next week or two to cover bills, and replacing a lightbulb in my car. How lucky am I that my life has got so little stress compared to some people I know. Enjoy life while you can-- bad stuff can hit at any time, but we just have to learn to appreciate what we have today.
BustyAmeera
01-11-2013, 05:23 AM
@justanothercamgirl Because it seemed more like a childish 8th grade argument, rather than a challenging debate. Just my observation.
heraax
01-11-2013, 10:23 AM
Thanks temptingmodel! That's load of info that I know I'll use.
I did look at that before, but for some reason the links to the helpful SW threads weren't there. May I was looking at the wrong one? idk
Hopefully once I start understanding the tricks/tips/tools of the trade I can get on the up swing of things.
Definitely the biggest mistake I ever made was starting with my prices low. I've raised them a little over the past months, but it's like pulling teeth at times.
Incantatious
01-11-2013, 11:40 PM
If you're a $500 club lady and you work small shifts on account of a disability, please, please don't overwork yourself to earn more whilst sacrificing your health.
I overworked myself just going an hour over my usual shift duration, (that entire hour was spent in private), and it knocked me out of work for two days - the time I needed to physically recover from just that one hour added. I have also landed myself with a back-ache from hell. Yes, I continued because of the money, but if I'd have quit when I started feeling myself get exhausted I'd have been able to work the next two days, making more in the end than I did for just that one hour.
Please, please put the emphasis on your well-being, because $600+ cannot be worth it if you are suffering. Putting more strain on your body than it can take can be dangerous and it puts your well being (and pocket) in jeopardy as you will need to take time off to get you back on track.
If you put more emphasis on your wellbeing - taking the necessary measures to ensure your comfort and safety - you are actually liable to be able to work more, thus making more than $500+. It pays off!!
Warm-up exercises, taking hot baths, ensuring your work area is comfortable, getting massages, taking time out when you need it, and maintaining a healthy diet and keeping well hydrated may not seem like the direct keys to making more money camming, but they most definitely are when you take into account exactly how some of these things can be of benefit to us.
They increase stamina, maintain physical and psychological energy, and help keep your attitude bright and attentive. < These are vital components of great performers, no matter what niche you work in.
Yes, some say that the key to making money camming is simply just logging on, but you can sit online for hours, looking dull, listless, tired and exhausted, but by simply looking out for yourself, the results of those things are the make-up of great performers no matter what niche we work in. Don't ignore them!
Look out for yourselves my lovelies.
Marina Starr
01-12-2013, 06:59 AM
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If you're a $500 club lady and you work small shifts on account of a disability, please, please don't overwork yourself to earn more whilst sacrificing your health.
I overworked myself just going an hour over my usual shift duration, (that entire hour was spent in private), and it knocked me out of work for two days - the time I needed to physically recover from just that one hour added. I have also landed myself with a back-ache from hell. Yes, I continued because of the money, but if I'd have quit when I started feeling myself get exhausted I'd have been able to work the next two days, making more in the end than I did for just that one hour.
Please, please put the emphasis on your well-being, because $600+ cannot be worth it if you are suffering. Putting more strain on your body than it can take can be dangerous and it puts your well being (and pocket) in jeopardy as you will need to take time off to get you back on track.
If you put more emphasis on your wellbeing - taking the necessary measures to ensure your comfort and safety - you are actually liable to be able to work more, thus making more than $500+. It pays off!!
Warm-up exercises, taking hot baths, ensuring your work area is comfortable, getting massages, taking time out when you need it, and maintaining a healthy diet and keeping well hydrated may not seem like the direct keys to making more money camming, but they most definitely are when you take into account exactly how some of these things can be of benefit to us.
They increase stamina, maintain physical and psychological energy, and help keep your attitude bright and attentive. < These are vital components of great performers, no matter what niche you work in.
Yes, some say that the key to making money camming is simply just logging on, but you can sit online for hours, looking dull, listless, tired and exhausted, but by simply looking out for yourself, the results of those things are the make-up of great performers no matter what niche we work in. Don't ignore them!
Look out for yourselves my lovelies.
Driven
01-12-2013, 08:08 AM
I just wanted to say thank you for everyone who helped get this thread back on track. I just started camming a month ago and Im really enjoying this experience.
I had been dancing for more than 5 years and even with new clubs, new opportunities, and finally being acknowledged and rewarded for my pole work...I was over it. I didnt want to admit it but it was becoming too much stress just to get myself (and my family) situated just to DRIVE to work less than 30 minutes away.
Its been a significant mental financial change to adjusting to camming income vs. dancing income but Im feeling better about it daily and I am PROUD to say Im retired from dancing.
Im currently just making a little over the $500 mark, but Im reading this forum as much as I can and fully intend to make the most of the knowledge here. Again thank you so much to everyone who has been kind enough to contribute there insights, its deeply appreciated.
RaineyLane
01-12-2013, 04:25 PM
So after being unable to cam for 5 days due to depression and anxiety, I got on this morning and had fun making $130 in a few hours! I seem to cam for a few days straight and then take a few days off. This isn't a great pattern. I would like to start working 3 days on, 1 off. I tried the camming marathon, but I don't think camming every day is for me, right now at least. I'm getting separated, so it's been hard to get online. Can totally relate to most if the girls in this group! Honestly, I think it's GREAT that we can still earn what most full-time vanilla jobs pay with part time hours. Let's all continue to support one another! I <3 this thread! *Group Hug*
Mlle_Mystere
01-12-2013, 05:59 PM
I think I will pretty well always be in this group. I'm a full-time student at the top of my class doing pretty unique research and I maintain a vanilla job for security, a front, and the enjoyment I get from the social aspect of it. In the spring & summer I cammed a few evenings a week on top of classes and research, both of which were full-time. I built up things pretty well, but had bad equipment and low rates. I took a few weeks off for field work and never fully came back because I associated camming with exhaustion. I did some bits and pieces during the fall semester, but nothing serious. When Christmas break rolled around, I decided to get my shit together and re-established myself while deep-cleaning my whole home. I've been gone for a bit due to holiday travels, a tooth extraction and muscle spasms in my back and now one leg. Thanks to candyjames' motivation, I've managed to get it together enough to get my best ever cheque this week (still a small one) despite having spasms and being very, very sleepy thanks to the meds.
Reasons I don't mind my low income:
- I make hundreds/month on C4S
- Tuition is already paid
- Rent is only $450/month
- Vanilla job pays enough to cover other bills
- I have a sweet GPA
- My research
- My $0 credit card bills
- The bank account that has a month's rent just chillin in it
- My apartment so clean the landlord calls it a hotel
- That cake I made this week
- The surprise car repairs that didn't concern me at all
- The annual income higher than my full-time working mother's
- The hourly average above minimum wage
- The trip I took in November, and the one I'm taking in February
- Not being able to relate well to broke, sad classmates anymore
- Not working 20-30 hours evenings and weekends every week on top of a full-time class schedule to just barely make it through the month and still carry debts like I did last winter
- Being able to spontaneously work on research rather than saying "sorry, I work tonight... and tommorow night, and every evening, and the weekends..."
- Not whipping out my phone and checking the bank app before whipping out my debit card for a necessity
I can keep on going, but I think I'm starting to get a bit repetitive :)
And to answer the original question, compared to last winter when I was working 20-30 hours every single week and just barely getting through, I don't feel like I'm working more for less. Compared to some other camgirls, yes, I do, because I know that more hours and more consistency can make a huge difference to your hourly average. It just doesn't work for me since things like research, homework and work done collaboratively are so unpredictable. I'm always on the front page, usually the top half in English, and have never seen myself below the second row in French, and it's not unusual for me to take the top spot when Europe goes to bed. I have a five-star rating and always have, without ever having asked to have a bad rating removed. My hourly average is above minimum wage, and my % time in paid chat is probably anywhere between 15% and 30% depending on the week.
TL,DR: Yeah, I could make more. But other things are more appealing, and I don't need more.
FiendishGyrator
01-12-2013, 07:08 PM
And that, boys and girls, is how to write a bad-ass thread response!
CurvyWinona
01-12-2013, 07:13 PM
I think I will pretty well always be in this group. I'm a full-time student at the top of my class doing pretty unique research and I maintain a vanilla job for security, a front, and the enjoyment I get from the social aspect of it. In the spring & summer I cammed a few evenings a week on top of classes and research, both of which were full-time. I built up things pretty well, but had bad equipment and low rates. I took a few weeks off for field work and never fully came back because I associated camming with exhaustion. I did some bits and pieces during the fall semester, but nothing serious. When Christmas break rolled around, I decided to get my shit together and re-established myself while deep-cleaning my whole home. I've been gone for a bit due to holiday travels, a tooth extraction and muscle spasms in my back and now one leg. Thanks to candyjames' motivation, I've managed to get it together enough to get my best ever cheque this week (still a small one) despite having spasms and being very, very sleepy thanks to the meds.
Reasons I don't mind my low income:
- I make hundreds/month on C4S
- Tuition is already paid
- Rent is only $450/month
- Vanilla job pays enough to cover other bills
- I have a sweet GPA
- My research
- My $0 credit card bills
- The bank account that has a month's rent just chillin in it
- My apartment so clean the landlord calls it a hotel
- That cake I made this week
- The surprise car repairs that didn't concern me at all
- The annual income higher than my full-time working mother's
- The hourly average above minimum wage
- The trip I took in November, and the one I'm taking in February
- Not being able to relate well to broke, sad classmates anymore
- Not working 20-30 hours evenings and weekends every week on top of a full-time class schedule to just barely make it through the month and still carry debts like I did last winter
- Being able to spontaneously work on research rather than saying "sorry, I work tonight... and tommorow night, and every evening, and the weekends..."
- Not whipping out my phone and checking the bank app before whipping out my debit card for a necessity
I can keep on going, but I think I'm starting to get a bit repetitive :)
And to answer the original question, compared to last winter when I was working 20-30 hours every single week and just barely getting through, I don't feel like I'm working more for less. Compared to some other camgirls, yes, I do, because I know that more hours and more consistency can make a huge difference to your hourly average. It just doesn't work for me since things like research, homework and work done collaboratively are so unpredictable. I'm always on the front page, usually the top half in English, and have never seen myself below the second row in French, and it's not unusual for me to take the top spot when Europe goes to bed. I have a five-star rating and always have, without ever having asked to have a bad rating removed. My hourly average is above minimum wage, and my % time in paid chat is probably anywhere between 15% and 30% depending on the week.
TL,DR: Yeah, I could make more. But other things are more appealing, and I don't need more.
Hooray for others with $0 in credit card and other type of debts. :)
I am 28 and I have never ever owned a credit card, only debit cards. My husband is the same. Only debt I have is the hospital bills which I am slowly paying off. My goal in 2013 is to pay off at least half of hospital bills. I want to be debt free in 2014.
For housing, I live in a house which is inherited from parents (they have another home) and I just pay the remodel and to help with mortgage which isn't a lot. :D
So, I do get $500 a week often and it doesn't bother me at all! :)
Mlle_Mystere
01-13-2013, 08:16 AM
I am 28 and I have never ever owned a credit card, only debit cards. My husband is the same. Only debt I have is the hospital bills which I am slowly paying off. My goal in 2013 is to pay off at least half of hospital bills. I want to be debt free in 2014.
I think hospital bills are a pretty darn good reason to have debt! I'm Canadian, so I've never faced more than a prescription or ambulance bill, but that's something I would file under wothwhile debt!
I should probably add that I do have student loans, but I'm going to grad school, which means they're not due for a few more years and I plan to save like a lunatic for them. I guess that's something I could use more income for, but I'll be getting a salary as a grad student, so it'll be much less stressful to save then, rather than panic now. :)
izshadow
01-13-2013, 11:11 PM
Incantatious - wow. Nail on the head. I'm disabled and I've lost everything due to not being able to work a traditional job. I'm on SM now but heck if I work 20 hours a week and only make $25 bucks. I try so hard. So hard that I push my body past its limits and I end up with daily severe migraines and sometimes I can not work from the excruciating back pain. But what else am I suppose to do? I have to somehow pay my bills and I dont know any other way. So tomorrow I'll try again. I'll pop a thousand migraine pills and cry my eyes out off webcam. I'll lay in bed as my back spasms and pray for more money when I do it all again the next day. I cant put my health first anymore. I've downsized from my own house to a friends room. From here...... its the streets.
Incantatious
01-13-2013, 11:19 PM
izshadow - I am not sure where you are from, and how healthcare / government systems work where you are. But if your condition is to the point where you have to make yourself suffer so incredibly cruelly for money, is there no way you can apply for government funding / benefits? You should not need to suffer like this. Many years ago it was actually my doctor who told me I needed to go on benefits as the strain I was putting on myself to work a regular job was too much. I am sure many doctors would say the same thing to you.
izshadow
01-13-2013, 11:24 PM
I've been fighting for disability since 2005. I wont even see a court date till 2014 and then it can take up to two months after that court date for a decision. I have a lawyer. We are getting no where fast and the bills dont stop. The system no longer works. The rate was 63% approval a few years back but now the money in the system is running dry and the approval rate is down to 33%. I have a friend with back surgery and his spine is deteriorating. They wont even approve him and he has been fighting for years. He can barely walk but they want him to suck it up and go work. Sucks but it is what it is.
CurvyWinona
01-14-2013, 07:37 AM
Izshadow, can you tell us where you are from? maybe we can find some resources for you.
LolaBohemia
01-14-2013, 07:56 AM
I officially no longer am in the $500/wk club. However due to the transition I will be in some major trouble for 2-3 weeks until my first streammate check arrives.
One thing that helped motivate me because I felt so stuck was being able to see how much money I was making in real time on SM compared to ImLive. Seeing that motivated me and
made my depression fade helping me work more. Being depressed and having a pain disorder kept me from working more hours but seeing the results I finally knew I deserved and worked hard for
helped me incredibly.
I may still have weeks where I dip close but I've learned a lot. At least I know that there's nothing to frown at as long as I'm doing as much as I physically can.
izshadow
01-14-2013, 10:53 AM
I'm in New Port Richey Florida. I already am on food assistant and county health assistant but thats all I can be on. They cant help me anymore then that cause I dont have any kids. Those with kids come first. Even charities cant help me cause the money has run dry and any money they do get in has to go to those with families. Which I understand. Just doesnt help people like me!!!! SSI even has to be picky and choosy with who they send their checks to. So I've been denied numerous times for that while waiting. I really hate our system. I have severe Fibro, herniated disks in my back, a severe auto-immune disorder, chronic fatigue, I'm actually allergic to my own core's body temperature so I take medication for heat sensitivity, social anxiety, OCD, arthritis in my back, and a few other smaller things. I'm not a complainer though. As you see I still get up everyday and try to bring in the money!!! I just am killing myself doing so and its hard. It really defeats you. I havent even hung out with a friend in over two years cause I'm also a phone sex operator. So I work 24/7 trying to bring in some type of money. The PSO world does not make the money like it used to!!!! Thats for sure!!!! I havent even had a normal sleep cycle in many many years. I really wish everyday I could make it change. Thats why I thought camming would work. I could make $600 a week and actually sleep at night. But man the adult industry is hard!!! Havent even made a buck yet. I'll try again this week though. Cant give up!!! :)