View Full Version : Cam girl intuition: Spotting the guys who won't pay
CurvyWinona
08-04-2014, 02:12 PM
lol, just made!
CatBBW
08-07-2014, 03:39 AM
Only just seen this thread so apologies if this has been mentioned previously...
99% of the guys on AW who have anything to do with how large their cock is in their username, are TWs and won't pay. They get off on coming into your room and asking if you like big cocks/BBC and he has a big hard one you can take a look at if you click on his cam (for FREE, obviously!).
Snowy0Star
08-07-2014, 04:03 AM
Only just seen this thread so apologies if this has been mentioned previously...
99% of the guys on AW who have anything to do with how large their cock is in their username, are TWs and won't pay. They get off on coming into your room and asking if you like big cocks/BBC and he has a big hard one you can take a look at if you click on his cam (for FREE, obviously!).
next time someone mentions if they like BBC just tell them "why yes I love the BBC without them I wouldnt have Dr Who and Sherlock!" I got this line from a post a few months back from Auritwo and it works they either leave or they shut up because they dont know what to say but if they turn into a 5 year old about it just ban them .
kortneykay
08-07-2014, 04:33 AM
The best way to spot a guy who won't pay is waiting for him to take you private. Ain't gonna happen! See? Pretty easy :D
RaineyLane
09-23-2015, 04:07 AM
Bump... Had so many of these guys lately... They think that beating around the bush fools us but we see right past that BS to their tiny... wallets!
hyori
09-23-2015, 09:03 AM
I need a thread on spotting the guys who do pay eventually and whether or not they are worth my time.
justlurk
09-23-2015, 10:06 AM
My list
any user with 420 in their name typically (I'm 420 friendly) but these dudes spend all their $ on 420 I suppose.
any user who ask "what will you do to me in private?"
any user who asks more than 5 questions at once.
" " sits in free chat while 2-3 custies have taken you to private already.
user telling you to get something or requests something without tipping and promises private if you get your rubber gloves or something else.
Bristol
09-23-2015, 11:18 AM
If a guy asks if you take coupons or tries to enter a coupon code,hes not gonna pay
If he asks for a veterans discount,says hes a soldier and asks if youd like to serve your country or states its his birthday,hes not gonna pay
.
I have an indy guy on Skype who keeps asking if I'll take a discount because he's getting married so he's broke from wedding expenses. He hasn't bought a show yet. I probably should block him. :computer:
Next time I'll tell him I don't take discounts because my landlord doesn't take discounts.
bbwbrianna
09-23-2015, 07:32 PM
The "what brings you here tonight"? guys. If they don't know, then they are at the wrong place. These guys NEVER spend money and they are hoping you are logged in because you are lonely. When I say I'm there to make money they say "oh too bad" and piss off. Now I tell these guys to fuck off when they ask such stupid questions. Oh, then there's the compliments guys who spam compliment after compliment in your room. It feels like they are trying to over compensate for not having any money and they want my time and hope I will do stuff for them in free chat. The only way to get them to shut the fuck up is to tell them that a tip is the highest compliment, where they leave shortly after.
sovereignv
10-05-2015, 02:59 PM
Pretty much any sub who asks "what do I need to bring?" for a session. If he's serious, he knows what he has to use on himself. The moment a guy asks that question I'm almost completely sure he's wasting my time and just wants to hear me list off items and tell them how I'll use them on them instead of actually doing the session. (This has been proven to me three or four times already, just tonight.)
Anyone who says "just getting some things, brb" - never comes back.
Anyone who enters your room and tells you they're wearing their wife's panties/have a plug in their ass/are on their hands and knees willing to do anything to serve you.
Ehh, willing to do anything except for the one thing that does anything of actual value for me, i.e. being paid for my services. You can't really clean my house or empty the litterbox for me, so how can you serve me except with MONEY?
It's like, bitch, why are you wasting my time? For the price of a nice meal at a half decent restaurant I could give you exactly what you need and blow your mind, but no.
Serena-Shields
10-05-2015, 03:22 PM
''Free Preview?'' Guys will never pay. I get this a lot with Indy. I have tons of photos in different angles on my Indy sites and my description even says that I don't do free previews. I'm not going to waste my time getting ready just for you to get a quick look for free. If I'm feeling generous, I'll let them pay for a minute and they can look at me on camera fully clothed. That's it.
Any guy that asks too many questions is not going to pay, in my experience. He's looking for free dirty talk, that's it.
''What city do you live in?'' guys are looking for free sex. Not going to buy a show. I charge for my city.
On CB, guys who send PMs without paying for it ( I charge 25 tokens to PM with me) is not likely to pay for anything. If you can't spare 25 tokens, what the hell am I going to get out of you? I tell them the price again and they usually leave immediately.
Greys are not going to change their mind suddenly and buy tokens for you. I kick them out the minute they speak.
TrifilinCamHo
10-05-2015, 03:42 PM
Guys who ask you straight off the bat where you're from in Guest Chat.
MissAdriana
10-05-2015, 03:50 PM
Everything I've noticed has pretty much been listed already but ...
guys who ask me if I have twitter
asking for me to type / don't have sound
asking what my weight is or talking about it
asking to see or compliments on eyes & hair specifically never ever leads to a show
asking for an outfit change, I think I've only done 3 of those shows my entire time camming
asking how much longer I will be on: I rarely even work 20/25 hrs a week, if you don't take me NOW you aren't gunna see me again for awhile
xCamLovex
10-05-2015, 05:04 PM
I love this thread. I LOVE IT. The information is great for ladies as well as the pathetic scum bags reading this forum for tips. Guess what guys? We see you. We know about you. We are blocking you. We are not validating you. Go cry in a dark corner.
EllieGold
10-05-2015, 07:48 PM
If you come in my room with the following prepare to be blocked tonight.
You Single BB?
First Baby BB?
Where you from BB?
You Look Bored
ASS BB
OPEN PUSSY BB
*****Insert any stupid question here that they want answered free without paying******
xCamLovex
10-05-2015, 09:20 PM
I get super offended when guys ask what state im in when in guest chat. It's very invasive and I usually embarrass them by saying " the only guys that ask questions like that are serial killers " some guys get defensive and then I start wondering if I struck a cord with them
Glamourmilf
10-06-2015, 10:16 AM
Any of the following will also get the guy ignored, booted, blocked, or banned forever.
"Where from?"
"Are You alone?"
"Is (Insert age here) your real age?"
"STAND UP!"
"MOVE BACK FROM CAM!"
"SHOW FACE!"
"MMMMMMMMMMM"
"BIG TITS"
"WOW"
"How old are Your kids?"
:P
scarlettbelle
10-06-2015, 03:08 PM
While hustling private/exclusive shows: "Start a Gold show bb!"
During a Gold show countdown: "Let's go private/I want you all to myself!"
As soon as you do what they ask for...
42784
EllieGold
10-06-2015, 03:14 PM
While hustling private/exclusive shows: "Start a Gold show bb!"
During a Gold show countdown: "Let's go private/I want you all to myself!"
As soon as you do what they ask for...
42784
YUP!!! lol nailed it on the head with this one.
MissMoore
10-06-2015, 03:35 PM
Eh, sometimes you can tell, sometimes you can't. I focus on being entertaining and putting on a good show. I don't stay in free chat long that way. I've had guys chill in my room for weeks on end and finally get a long exclusive. Dont focus too much on anyone person. if they want attention they know what to do. Just keep it short and sweet.
Candy_Woman
10-06-2015, 07:41 PM
What can you do with all the guys who ask "get up and turn"? It seems a reasonable request, but none of them ever pvt.
EffyRose
10-06-2015, 07:49 PM
Tip or gtfo
MissMoore
10-06-2015, 08:07 PM
What can you do with all the guys who ask "get up and turn"? It seems a reasonable request, but none of them ever pvt.
I tell them to tip. It's rude to request certain things without sending a tip. Don't tell them they're being rude. Lol they will eventually get that. Lol just keep it easy and breezy.We all lose our patience from time to time but the more you can keep a even keel, the better.
SoloDesire
10-06-2015, 08:12 PM
What can you do with all the guys who ask "get up and turn"? It seems a reasonable request, but none of them ever pvt.
I just ignore them. Those kind of freeloaders don't even get my attention, let alone a free peek at my body.
audritwo
10-06-2015, 08:37 PM
What can you do with all the guys who ask "get up and turn"? It seems a reasonable request, but none of them ever pvt.
Tell them to tip you first, if they don't ban. Not worth your time.
ShyCamgirlBB
10-06-2015, 10:29 PM
What can you do with all the guys who ask "get up and turn"? It seems a reasonable request, but none of them ever pvt.
If it's slow and I'm trying to keep up the energy, I'll start a tipping mantra or song. Tip me, Tip me Tip me! Sometimes they tip. These seem like the same guys that like GS over Pvts so I wouldn't waste too much time trying to get them into private
Marina Starr
10-07-2015, 03:21 PM
Guys that say 'this is my first time _____________'.
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RaineyLane
10-07-2015, 05:08 PM
[QUOTE=Marina Starr;2807758]Guys that say 'this is my first time _____________'.
I've actually had a couple of these guys go pvt. Usually they don't tho...
Most of these or variations of them have been said, but they are my favorites...
If they say they don't know how to start a pvt
If they ask about your wardrobe options in free chat
If they ask you to stand up
If they say they'll do anything for you
If they say they're looking for something IRL
If they ask your opinion on ANYTHING, especially their penis size or penis size in general
If they ask your bra size or anything else on your profile
If they spew out a paragraph or erotica without saying hello
If they give you their phone number in free chat or a pvt message
If they say you're expensive or ask you what your per minute rate is
If they try to entertain you with jokes
If they greet you with "Hi Mom" or any variation
If they say they are underage
If they say they are on a mobile app
If they have diaper or baby oriented names, they usually won't go pvt. My theory is they have baby wallets to match. I occasionally get a good ABDL or diaper fetish exclusive but usually they don't. Sometimes you can get them to tip...
Also if they have Findom oriented names, they usually don't pay. A few end up tipping and or going pvt, but for most of them I think the name is a way for them to get a sliver a free attention.
Anyway, there's my list.
Marina Starr
10-07-2015, 05:42 PM
They are very rare and the majority won't go private. When they say 'it's my first time', I say 'well let's change that!' then they'll leave, LOL!
I've actually had a couple of these guys go pvt. Usually they don't tho...
Guys that say 'this is my first time _____________'.
JuliAnne333
10-07-2015, 10:50 PM
The ones who ask me when was the last time I had sex. I never know if I should be truthful as that would probably scare them off or if I should just make up some random story. The ones who ask if I like younger guys (I am in my 50s). The ones who ask me what "turns me on". And, of course, all the ones already listed (I hope I didn't duplicate) I have had those types over the years as well.
Glamourmilf
10-08-2015, 06:17 AM
"Do You Like Black Guys?"
Of all the questions, this one bugs me the most. I get asked this question a bazillion times each shift.
I sometimes turn it around, and answer, "Of Course I like Black guys, don't You?"
Or I ask why nobody asks if I like Asians? Indians? Hispanics? Russians?
it's such a stupid question. They really think I'm gonna talk about it, so they can get off in free chat, or without tipping. NOT!!
MissAdriana
10-08-2015, 05:12 PM
OH! HOW could I forget...
The guys who ask "is there anyone around to fuck you right now?"
BadBitch
10-08-2015, 09:12 PM
The statement about guys with 'money' in their name is so true! Screen names having to do with money ('baller', 'money', 'tipper', etc.) are guys who don't tip me, and for some reason guys with the name 'Jay'. LOL.
And often times you can tell by the first comments out of a guy's mouth whether or not he'll pay. I try to be friendly to everyone though, UNTIL they fuck up. And every once in a while, a guy who I originally thought "Ugh, another time-waster!" will surprise me and end up spending some money.
Yo! I agree on the "Jay" name!!! What the hell is it with them being shitty customers????
BadBitch
10-08-2015, 09:14 PM
How do you guys answer?? I usually ignore them. I fucking HATE when they ask if I like black cock or young cock. Shut the fuck up! Stop asking me ridiculous questions!!!
Also, the guys who say, "You look like my aunt". "You look like my sister in law".
EffyRose
10-08-2015, 09:29 PM
Yo! I agree on the "Jay" name!!! What the hell is it with them being shitty customers????
Hey now! I have a repeat exl regular named Jay!
xCamLovex
10-08-2015, 10:35 PM
Watch out for guys who asks to see things. They're like .5 seconds away from climax and seeing your shoes or dildo is enough to make them cum and no...they will not take you private exclusive or pledge for a GS.
AnotherLily
10-09-2015, 01:19 PM
People that insult you in freechat.
In particular they fall under 3 categories: trolls, bored models / studio pimps, or guys looking for free humiliation.
Block and keep it moving.
TrifilinCamHo
10-09-2015, 05:02 PM
Guys who ask things like "what are you into on here" and "tell me what you do in pvt" are most likely jerking off and trying to get some free dirty talk. I usually point down and tell them they can read all about my shows the "About My Show" section right under me and they almost always leave after that.
kortneykay
10-09-2015, 05:18 PM
I haven't been in this thread in a while but honestly, I think that's the beauty of sales. You never know who's going to pay, and who isn't. I've noticed over the years that it depends on a few factors but the most important factor is you and your sales pitch/delivery. You can't just assume that because a guy has money that he's going to pay you. Just like you cannot decide if someone who is broke won't add credits, or come back and play later.
I had one custie who used to sit in my room for hours, no tipping, no pvts. I then made it clear to the room that as much as I liked hanging out with them for free, I was here to work. Within that same day he ended up being one of my biggest spenders/virtual sugar daddies. Had I not opened my mouth, I never would've gotten paid. This guy showed $0.00 credits on his account but ended up shelling $30k over to me over the next 6 months.
My other concern is that just because a man has money doesn't mean he's going to spend any on you. If any of you work for cams.com or ALLBBWC you know that you're able to see the amount someone has in their accounts. I've had days where I've flirted and pitched my way into getting shows from guys who've had hundreds in their accounts and they never did buy a show. And yet we've had customers on SM where you cannot see their amounts and it's a hit or miss. My point is, you have to make sure you do what you can to sell your ass off. You never know their next move (which I find exciting) as it's like a game of seduction, win, lose, or draw. If we coax a guy into a sale it's a victory and our skill gets better. If we focus on spotting them, we lose because you never really know who's willing to part with it or not.
EffyRose
10-09-2015, 06:45 PM
^ I love this! Everyone's experience is different and that's the beauty of a sale job. I think it closes many opportunities to just block guys based on standards as a whole. Like Kortney said, I've had a guy sit in free chat for a few days just chatting, then tip me really big (I suppose he waited til payday).
It's important to remember we are all different, and what works for one model won't work for all of us.
justanothercamgirl
10-09-2015, 10:14 PM
^ I love this! Everyone's experience is different and that's the beauty of a sale job. I think it closes many opportunities to just block guys based on standards as a whole. Like Kortney said, I've had a guy sit in free chat for a few days just chatting, then tip me really big (I suppose he waited til payday).
It's important to remember we are all different, and what works for one model won't work for all of us.
I agree. I consider myself part of the 'ABC of Hustling Club' (Always-Be-Closing). I don't usually ban someone unless they are abusive or hostile. If I am unable to close with a guy today then there is always tomorrow. That being said, I also don't give away my attention for free. If someone wants to park in my room then that is fine by me. I have no problem ignoring their ass while they do it. (*grins*)
theharlot
10-14-2015, 05:42 AM
The flipside of this is the best. I.e. Camgirl intuition: spotting the guys who WILL pay. Sometimes you just know... I can often sense when I'm about to be taken to paid chat (without obvious markers)!!
BadBitch
10-18-2015, 08:07 AM
Pretty much any sub who asks "what do I need to bring?" for a session. If he's serious, he knows what he has to use on himself. The moment a guy asks that question I'm almost completely sure he's wasting my time and just wants to hear me list off items and tell them how I'll use them on them instead of actually doing the session. (This has been proven to me three or four times already, just tonight.)
Anyone who says "just getting some things, brb" - never comes back.
Anyone who enters your room and tells you they're wearing their wife's panties/have a plug in their ass/are on their hands and knees willing to do anything to serve you.
Ehh, willing to do anything except for the one thing that does anything of actual value for me, i.e. being paid for my services. You can't really clean my house or empty the litterbox for me, so how can you serve me except with MONEY?
It's like, bitch, why are you wasting my time? For the price of a nice meal at a half decent restaurant I could give you exactly what you need and blow your mind, but no.
YES!!!!! I get these ALL the time!
I had to block a sub regular because all he would do lately was ask me to tell him about my new toys in open chat. PLUS I had to type to him. He would respond, "Mmmm. Tell me more". I would always tell him that I would tell him more in paid chat. He would leave then come back in a week asking 50 questions again.
I got so fucking angry the day I banned him. I told him to go fuck himself then banned him.
BadBitch
10-18-2015, 08:11 AM
If it's slow and I'm trying to keep up the energy, I'll start a tipping mantra or song. Tip me, Tip me Tip me! Sometimes they tip. These seem like the same guys that like GS over Pvts so I wouldn't waste too much time trying to get them into private
I ignore all requests. I do so because in my topic, it says, "Please tip for me to stand, show tits, ass, feet". If I get, "Can you stand?". I ignore it. They'll say, "Well?" about a minute later. I respond with, "Oh, I was waiting for your tip since it says 'please tip for requests in my topic". They leave. Another reason I ignore is because I just don't feel like responding to a freeloader.
Besides many other 'freeloader types' the ones coming in & starting to type lots of compliments & call me "love" and are 'too nice' are not going to pay, every time they ask for something for free after their 'nice introduction' haha. Nice try! but i wont fall for it :P
LoraDoll
10-18-2015, 11:54 AM
^ true. Those guys are here, to prove themselves how nice they are - and you like them even in free - hoping they ll grow balls to contact with women in their personal life - that s my theory lol. So i ignore them totally , maybe bann if they are too much -except if my intuition says he s a real customer *very rarely* lol.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-18-2015, 12:54 PM
How do you guys answer?? I usually ignore them. I fucking HATE when they ask if I like black cock or young cock. Shut the fuck up! Stop asking me ridiculous questions!!!
Also, the guys who say, "You look like my aunt". "You look like my sister in law".
Awww I look like your Aunt? She must be a fine bitch. Now take me private so I can play with that big young dick. Or something like that. Of course only give this answer if you're into this sort of thing. I get the white dick question all day long. Its annoying but I have to play it up. I usually type to them privately something like Of course baby I been bout the swirl since 1986 (my cam age). They want to be made to feel special and need to know you really like them. 2015 and mofos still need to be convinced. So sad.
JessRyan
10-18-2015, 03:39 PM
How do you guys answer?? I usually ignore them. I fucking HATE when they ask if I like black cock or young cock. Shut the fuck up! Stop asking me ridiculous questions!!!
Also, the guys who say, "You look like my aunt". "You look like my sister in law".
Yes, I like ALL cock, that's why I'm here! I love my job! I like to fuck! I like cock, I like men, young, old, but most importantly generous. And I look like your aunt? She's hot, uh?
JessRyan
10-18-2015, 03:42 PM
The flipside of this is the best. I.e. Camgirl intuition: spotting the guys who WILL pay. Sometimes you just know... I can often sense when I'm about to be taken to paid chat (without obvious markers)!!
LOL I love it when that happens! It happens all the time. It happens to me when a couple guys in guest chat are "chatting" about taking me private..then the REAL man comes into the guest chat behind them and sweeps me away. Har fucking Hardee Har Har!
JessRyan
10-18-2015, 03:49 PM
I ignore all requests. I do so because in my topic, it says, "Please tip for me to stand, show tits, ass, feet". If I get, "Can you stand?". I ignore it. They'll say, "Well?" about a minute later. I respond with, "Oh, I was waiting for your tip since it says 'please tip for requests in my topic". They leave. Another reason I ignore is because I just don't feel like responding to a freeloader.
sorry to keep posting on this thread, but as I'm reading you girls are funny and I have to add my 2 cents. I've found that the guys who ask to see feet, stand, bend over...whatever..they, well, I'd say they NEVER are the ones to take you private. The guy who comes into your room, likes you, feels the need to take you private and play, he KNOWS it within a very short time. And you don't have to do anything to get his attention. He a grown ass man who KNOWS what he wants when he wants it. Happens to me all the time. The guy comes in behind the chatting and demanding guys, he sees me, likes how I look and how I'm interacting, and right behind the losers, steals me away. He's a MAN! He didn't need a thing in guest chat...He needs it IN private.