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maryjaynexo
03-12-2013, 12:23 PM
^^It's extremely common. I'd be weirded out if they didn't ask for it, honestly. As long as it's not some shady site, I don't see why you wouldn't want them to have your info for accurate payments/tax purposes.

SarahTime
03-12-2013, 12:46 PM
Hey does anyone know if its common for web cam sites to ask you for your real name and address upon registration. Should I give it to them or do you put down fake info regardless except when it comes to bank account info

Uh..... I mean like..... are you serious?

You have a lot of learning to do.

You absolutely cannot use a fake name and address when you sign up for a cam site. They are going to ask for photos of your ID also to prove who you are. Not only that, you have to report all your earnings to the IRS. So............... yah. You use your real name.

This is business, not a game.

Rosemary Rabbit
03-12-2013, 12:52 PM
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QUEENOFCURVES
03-12-2013, 12:58 PM
have to agree with you. i am the cheap girl and make my daily goal and more and i am happy and yes i do dollar gs shows and my rates are low and back to back privs IT WORKS FOR ME ..i do good on sm i dont work other sites anymore it may be pocket change to others but it all good for me. i want to keep my regs happy on a daily basis and i do good 4 me .i never have a slow day on sm. i even have regs asking me to do a block sessions on my days off and email me will even tip me 10 or 20 for my time i dont ask for it i am like that they email me and new guys when will i be on every day till i dont want to check it but i do,:D i go out of my way most times necause it money and i want to. even had one guy tip me 50 once just for my time because i had pms and he did not even want me naked he beg me to come on line to dominate him plus 30 mins excul he became my reg. yes no toys cant complain.}:D.
um pretty sure you just said that derp. THEN BAN THEM and stop complaining about it. They didnt give you 10 bucks cry me a river. You should be happy they want to give you any money at all..do you even realize how many girls just sit there for hours upon hours with nothing and you sit here whining about 10 bucks and wanting to be treated like a princess? *rollseyes* get real.

QUEENOFCURVES
03-12-2013, 01:02 PM
guys will pay what they want there tons of girls and gold show to choose from and i dont think they care
Or get a second job to afford $10 GS!

QUEENOFCURVES
03-12-2013, 01:08 PM
thank you .they dont want the cheap guys give them to me trust me every dollar adds up i have no time to think i all that when it comes to my bills and saving i dont play.i am happy that guys pay me for my time period,
um pretty sure you just said that derp. THEN BAN THEM and stop complaining about it. They didnt give you 10 bucks cry me a river. You should be happy they want to give you any money at all..do you even realize how many girls just sit there for hours upon hours with nothing and you sit here whining about 10 bucks and wanting to be treated like a princess? *rollseyes* get real.

QUEENOFCURVES
03-12-2013, 01:09 PM
you see you being rude to her you dont like her opinion to bad i am a newbie here to .
You sound like a damn fool. The moment you came in this thread, all you did was bitch about the other posts in here. Not a good way to start participating on a forum you've been lurking since June. If the venting in this thread bugs you that much, I guess that means you should avoid the 'Camming sucks because...' thread too, huh? Go away...

CinnimonKiss
03-12-2013, 01:15 PM
What is up with the hosts that charge 1 for a goldshow and then touch themselves when they are half naked in freechat?
Really? Like do you honestly disrespect yourself that much that you don't value yourself at more than a dollar for a 5-20min goldshow then have to give most of it away for free?

Its really sad.. I'm sorry Im not one to say stuff like this but wow, just.. wow.

Wow this post blew up bb's !!! anyway I wanted to say yes I have seen plenty girls charge $1.00 for a 5 min to a 20 min show. I guess its just what you think you deserve or think your show is worth. Yah, it may be hard to compete with say 1 dollar for a 15 or 20 min show buuuuuutt it really doesn't take away from who will drop cash on you necessarily.

Remember there are girls who charge 10 for 10 ..or 5 for 5 shows, even 15 for 15 and they make it no doubt!

What is YOUR GOLDSHOW worth?

thats all that matters..

:twocents:

BrightAndClaire
03-12-2013, 01:24 PM
I have to disagree, but I think it's really a cultural thing that not everyone has automatic understanding of. If I entered someone's house and did not know that their relatives/whatever wanted me to greet them, I wouldn't. It wouldn't even be a thought that would occur to me because I've never done that growing up nor have had that done to me or taught to me. It's one of those weird things, like taking off the shoes or complimenting a hair cut or opening doors or shaking hands first thing or elbows on the table or...you know! Just my two cents because as you know I think everyone should do what they want at all times, and that includes banning people from your room for whatever you want!

And yet, if you enter someone's home, and they say, "Hello, how are you?" possibly repeating themselves once or twice and addressing you directly, and you just sit there mutely fondling your own junk...I don't think that's a cultural thing at all, I think that's being a douche. I give everyone a decent shot to at least say hello, and if they don't talk to me, I will kick them; if they were just lagging or in another window or something, they will come back, but if they were a creeper, they will probably get the message. If they're persistent about it, then the kick gets upgraded to a ban.

Marina Starr
03-12-2013, 01:27 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/tumblr_mgvklvY3dQ1qead64o1_250_zps9bc3799b.gif

you see you being rude to her you dont like her opinion to bad i am a newbie here to .

Rosemary Rabbit
03-12-2013, 02:29 PM
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italianstarcamgirl
03-12-2013, 05:49 PM
without reading through the entire thread here's my 2 cents:

I've done $1 gold shows, I've done extreme teasing but its usually only after all else has failed for the day. I/We need to make a living and I'm sorry but I'm not leaving any money on the table.

JaneBurgess
03-12-2013, 05:50 PM
They have to have your real information. They will also ask for a copy of your ID and a picture of you holding your ID.



Hey does anyone know if its common for web cam sites to ask you for your real name and address upon registration. Should I give it to them or do you put down fake info regardless except when it comes to bank account info

JaneBurgess
03-12-2013, 05:58 PM
I guess the point of mentioning cheap Gold shows was that it brings the site down. The whole site shifted when Gold shows started. Before Gold shows it was so easy to get guys to buy shows at the per minute rate. Now you have customers looking for cheap ass shows. They also seem to think we all with flash for tips. I personally don't do Gold shows and I also don't flash for tips. However I am hounded about both all the time. I even have it listed in my room topic that I don't do Gold shows and I am still asked about it a lot. Then I have guys that try and force me to do a Gold show. It's a pain in the ass to those of us that chose to only do private and exclusive shows. I don't care what you guys do as long as it doesn't make my job harder, which is has. The rules still say you must wear panties in free chat, yet I have seen so many performers in Gold shows that wear no panties and flash their crotch. The rules still apply so please respect them and then maybe some of the moochers will leave the site if they can't see free nudity.

QUEENOFCURVES
03-13-2013, 04:43 AM
agree. some one said cheap gold shows bring down the site guys dont want to pay per min, as for me that so not true there are times when i am doing a count down cheap gold shows hen i do my daily goal for the day. guys and my regs will said cancell and i will take you priv or tip me 5 or 10 just to cancell why not i am done for the day right nothing to lose.i will cancell screw that .. so ya they willing to pay per min my cheap rate because i personally dont charge a high rate it works for me because i dont have kids and not much expenses i do it mostly for saving and some bills when myhusband pays most, but for others they have to hustle but i think even so i like my rate i never will go up. it will affect those who do charge high but sorry i love back to back priv my shows is as basic as you get no toys no anal no squirt no dildo blow job use encorder up to 10mps hd cam no splitting sites i do ok on sm and i dont break rules and i flash dont care it money period i am happy at the end of the day so is my guys.i always said on my notes my show is basic c2c.sound n phone for less 2 buck i think that is fair if u not doing nothing but some girls do more for cheap rate i wont tho. been 5 star for years great comments nice tags some gold shows but cheapest excul i dont accept prem period. i do some dome mostly dirty talk and role play so kinda boring but most men dont care gold shows same no toys no anal just fingers rub no penetration and teasing some moaning for a dollar 4 mins why not it adds up when i am fucking around before i log off.. i dont even use my fingers i fake it most times because i wont hurt my pussy for any price that me.

without reading through the entire thread here's my 2 cents:

I've done $1 gold shows, I've done extreme teasing but its usually only after all else has failed for the day. I/We need to make a living and I'm sorry but I'm not leaving any money on the table.

QUEENOFCURVES
03-13-2013, 04:45 AM
i dont have a boss and i dont want some one bossing me to tell me how i should work my room.my 2 cents

TheBrownFox
03-13-2013, 08:04 AM
I have to disagree, but I think it's really a cultural thing that not everyone has automatic understanding of. If I entered someone's house and did not know that their relatives/whatever wanted me to greet them, I wouldn't. It wouldn't even be a thought that would occur to me because I've never done that growing up nor have had that done to me or taught to me. It's one of those weird things, like taking off the shoes or complimenting a hair cut or opening doors or shaking hands first thing or elbows on the table or...you know! Just my two cents because as you know I think everyone should do what they want at all times, and that includes banning people from your room for whatever you want!


Many people just consider it common courtesy. I was shy when I was younger, but still when I walked up into someone's home for the first time, I at least said hi when they answered the door. I mean, especially if they've said hi to me. It's just the right thing to do. I know a lot of guys on cam sites don't really think about 'common courtesy', but my opinion still stands. If the idea of speaking to a cam model (when you're camped out in her room every night 5 nights a week) turns you off, just perv in guest mode.

I keep hearing guys say that they like models who interact with the room. Well that's what some of us are trying to do! :) But if they think they're gonna sit in my public chat for an hour 5 nights a week, doing nothing but enjoying my 5 Gold flashes, they're gonna get kicked.

TheBrownFox
03-13-2013, 08:15 AM
you see you being rude to her you dont like her opinion to bad i am a newbie here to .


English...do you speak it?

I was a newbie once too...we all were. What's your point? No one said it's a bad thing. I know you're just itching for some more StripperWeb drama, which is why you're bringing that discussion back up. But that's over and done with...you're late! LOL.

TheBrownFox
03-13-2013, 08:17 AM
And yet, if you enter someone's home, and they say, "Hello, how are you?" possibly repeating themselves once or twice and addressing you directly, and you just sit there mutely fondling your own junk...I don't think that's a cultural thing at all, I think that's being a douche. I give everyone a decent shot to at least say hello, and if they don't talk to me, I will kick them; if they were just lagging or in another window or something, they will come back, but if they were a creeper, they will probably get the message. If they're persistent about it, then the kick gets upgraded to a ban.


Exactly.

Sorry for the triple post.

Pottymouth101
03-13-2013, 08:33 AM
hey y'all, let's get back on topic without the personal insults. Differences of perspective are cool but us slagging each other isn't

for the chica who asked earlier:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwUX4cSwrRk

lol at "yeah I trust you, now unlock your phone"

LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT. I had no idea they were a group. I follow them on twitter for the silly tweets but damn. Thank you.

Rosemary Rabbit
03-13-2013, 10:07 AM
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TheBrownFox
03-13-2013, 10:16 AM
Can't be that common if it keeps coming up, lol!


Well I don't feel like arguing with you about what is or isn't common sense. You call the shots in your own room, so do what works for you! :)

karaamsel
03-13-2013, 10:19 AM
Well I don't feel like arguing with you about what is or isn't common sense. You call the shots in your own room, so do what works for you! :)

and this is where this thread should end... please

TheBrownFox
03-13-2013, 10:38 AM
and this is where this thread should end... please


That's up to the moderators.

karaamsel
03-13-2013, 10:42 AM
That's up to the moderators.

but of course, i'm only thinking out loud

SarahTime
03-13-2013, 11:49 AM
This whole thing about gold shows ruining Streamate is all just a matter of perspective.

Regardless of the price of the gold show, you are either going to be successful with gold shows or you're not. If you ARE successful with them, you are most likely going to think SM still is awesome and is BETTER with the introduction of gold shows. If you are not successful with them, you are going to think that SM is going to shit and gold shows were the worst thing ever.

It's a matter of perspective. I know that PLENTY of models, myself included, make WAY MORE money with way less time spent online with the introduction of gold shows. That means Stremate is making more money too. The culture of the site has changed, and its not going back any time soon. It is up to each one of us to change with it, or move on.

Just because any particular model chooses not to change with the times, or for whatever reason can't seem to keep up now, yah that sucks. But that's the way it works. It doesn't mean the site as a whole is "ruined" it's just different. And whether or not that is good or bad depends on where you're standing.

It's pointless to get upset about what other models are charging because SOMEONE is always going to be charging less than you. Always. That's the wonderful nature of competition and dare I say, capitalism, the free market, etc. If we were all forced to charge the same amount, or we weren't allowed to go less than $1 per minute on gold shows, well that would suck. It limits our freedom to choose what WE want to do in our own business.

I guess be happy that you can't charge less than $1. Because you can bet your pretty little ass that there would be models charging 50 cents, 25 cents, 1 cent for a show!

AliceFun
03-13-2013, 05:54 PM
^^^ Ok, i wish to add a few things: Gold shows might be profitable for a number of performers but the majority dont find them lucrative and suffer from the lack of traffic in private/ exclusive.
If they were all that good for everyone we would not have all these threads, complains and burn out phases.

From what i saw looking around on SM there are some criteria u need to meet in order to be successful pleasing guys in mass cause that's what is required in gold shows.
That's my point of view based on camming experience and trying things around, pls dont feel offended if i am wrong, i dont wanna hurt anyone.

So, the criteria:

* The beauty - the look is very important for a camgirl, no matter how smart u are, what personality u have, the first thing they see is the look, if they dont like it u wont have a chance to prove your other talents.
* The younger the better - most guys love young women;
* The slimmer the better - guys love slim women with nice asses and tits;
* Native english speakers - is easier to work the room if u talk; while some guys love accents they dont like ANY accent, they love british accent for example but if u have a hard foreign accent for most is a turn off;

If you meet this criteria and have the personality type that is comfortable to tease the masses and feel ok to do group shows then u good to go and can be successful with Gold shows.

Of course there are ladies not into the category listed above that still can make money with GS but the chances are lower, i am watching rooms since they introduced GS and made a clear idea what is all about. Niches do not sell well on GS.

For some of us being in front of camera as a sex worker is already a challenge, if u add the pressure of working gold shows things might get unbearable, not to talk about the hostile environment coming from all freeloaders and nasty performers trolling around. (oh btw sarah, i saw u on cam getting pretty pissed off about a guy making comments about ur "fat ass" - is not fat, is very hot actually)

One thing performers dont think about is, even now things are still ok on site for certain models THEY WILL GET WORSE over time, people are happy to make money still but this is a short term situation, on long term things will get worse i am afraid.

I say this cause i seen how other sites failed in business after they had a big boom with certain features they introduced, some of u dont have the experience i have with all these sites. There (Ifriends, ImLive) are still girls making money now but as a whole these sites died. On every site top performers will still make money no matter what. Every site will promote their top performers so no risk for them to loose business.

Remember how was when they introduced GS and how is now, members paid more money for a GS than are willing to pay now.

Anyway, some performers simply CANT work gold show rooms for various reasons or dont even have the option. I think too that if girls could go lower than a dollar buy in for a show they would, sad lol.

So what will happen with all performers not able (for various reasons) to work gold shows?

The percentage is way larger than the ones successful with gold shows.
Good luck everyone no matter how good or bad u doing on site now a days, pls remember these are my own observations and point of view. Have peace!

BrightAndClaire
03-13-2013, 06:06 PM
Thank you, Alice!

I myself have never run a GS even though I was given the option within a couple of days of starting, because I never have more than a handful of guys in my room. I still end up doing a lot of private and exclusive shows, and my income is slowly but steadily going up and up, but still, I don't know what you girls who say you have 20 or more guys in your room are doing that I am not. I don't think I'm particularly niche, but I don't think I have the kind of traffic to make a GS very lucrative. I'm not sure that I care, either; I'm an introvert, so if all I have to do is chat pleasantly to 4 guys and get snatched into a show with 1 of them on a consistent basis, well, that's probably what I'm going to keep doing.

lolabunny
03-13-2013, 06:13 PM
I'm just gonna take in all of this great advice and wisdom so I can be a front page, top earner, first row performer like all of you girls ;)

33012

LOL

JaneBurgess
03-13-2013, 07:22 PM
I would agree with that if traffic wasn't way done, there weren't way more moochers than before Gold shows, and cam performers that will do anything in Gold shows to get guys to chip in. Before Gold shows performers weren't allowed to be topless, they didn't give away video's or pictures and customers didn't act as dickish as they do not. No way Streamate is making tons of money off these shows. A lot of performers have left the site and many have stopped doing Gold shows due to the glitches.

Also performers that don't want to do Gold shows are still changing with the times, just in a different way. I refuse to flash in free chat and I certainly am not going to do toys for a cheap Gold rate. It's a matter of personal taste I suppose. I have checked out Gold shows and I have seen performers have to try two or three times to get a show going. Then many complain about tech issues and their shows ending early and not making a dime off the show. Frankly that is a major reason I won't do them. I think it sucks that you can do a ten minute show and if you are cut off the last minute, you get paid nothing. I they change that I might try one, but right now with all their glitches I don't want to risk it.

I also hope no one would do a show that cheap period. It wouldn't be worth the money when you get paid 35 percent.




This whole thing about gold shows ruining Streamate is all just a matter of perspective.

Regardless of the price of the gold show, you are either going to be successful with gold shows or you're not. If you ARE successful with them, you are most likely going to think SM still is awesome and is BETTER with the introduction of gold shows. If you are not successful with them, you are going to think that SM is going to shit and gold shows were the worst thing ever.

It's a matter of perspective. I know that PLENTY of models, myself included, make WAY MORE money with way less time spent online with the introduction of gold shows. That means Stremate is making more money too. The culture of the site has changed, and its not going back any time soon. It is up to each one of us to change with it, or move on.

Just because any particular model chooses not to change with the times, or for whatever reason can't seem to keep up now, yah that sucks. But that's the way it works. It doesn't mean the site as a whole is "ruined" it's just different. And whether or not that is good or bad depends on where you're standing.

It's pointless to get upset about what other models are charging because SOMEONE is always going to be charging less than you. Always. That's the wonderful nature of competition and dare I say, capitalism, the free market, etc. If we were all forced to charge the same amount, or we weren't allowed to go less than $1 per minute on gold shows, well that would suck. It limits our freedom to choose what WE want to do in our own business.

I guess be happy that you can't charge less than $1. Because you can bet your pretty little ass that there would be models charging 50 cents, 25 cents, 1 cent for a show!

JaneBurgess
03-13-2013, 07:24 PM
I saw the same thing with Camz aka CamWorld. the site was doing fine, make changes and in the end it killed the site. It's a shame because I loved that site but if something isn't broke, then don't change it.



^^^ Ok, i wish to add a few things: Gold shows might be profitable for a number of performers but the majority dont find them lucrative and suffer from the lack of traffic in private/ exclusive.
If they were all that good for everyone we would not have all these threads, complains and burn out phases.

From what i saw looking around on SM there are some criteria u need to meet in order to be successful pleasing guys in mass cause that's what is required in gold shows.
That's my point of view based on camming experience and trying things around, pls dont feel offended if i am wrong, i dont wanna hurt anyone.

So, the criteria:

* The beauty - the look is very important for a camgirl, no matter how smart u are, what personality u have, the first thing they see is the look, if they dont like it u wont have a chance to prove your other talents.
* The younger the better - most guys love young women;
* The slimmer the better - guys love slim women with nice asses and tits;
* Native english speakers - is easier to work the room if u talk; while some guys love accents they dont like ANY accent, they love british accent for example but if u have a hard foreign accent for most is a turn off;

If you meet this criteria and have the personality type that is comfortable to tease the masses and feel ok to do group shows then u good to go and can be successful with Gold shows.

Of course there are ladies not into the category listed above that still can make money with GS but the chances are lower, i am watching rooms since they introduced GS and made a clear idea what is all about. Niches do not sell well on GS.

For some of us being in front of camera as a sex worker is already a challenge, if u add the pressure of working gold shows things might get unbearable, not to talk about the hostile environment coming from all freeloaders and nasty performers trolling around. (oh btw sarah, i saw u on cam getting pretty pissed off about a guy making comments about ur "fat ass" - is not fat, is very hot actually)

One thing performers dont think about is, even now things are still ok on site for certain models THEY WILL GET WORSE over time, people are happy to make money still but this is a short term situation, on long term things will get worse i am afraid.

I say this cause i seen how other sites failed in business after they had a big boom with certain features they introduced, some of u dont have the experience i have with all these sites. There (Ifriends, ImLive) are still girls making money now but as a whole these sites died. On every site top performers will still make money no matter what. Every site will promote their top performers so no risk for them to loose business.

Remember how was when they introduced GS and how is now, members paid more money for a GS than are willing to pay now.

Anyway, some performers simply CANT work gold show rooms for various reasons or dont even have the option. I think too that if girls could go lower than a dollar buy in for a show they would, sad lol.

So what will happen with all performers not able (for various reasons) to work gold shows?

The percentage is way larger than the ones successful with gold shows.
Good luck everyone no matter how good or bad u doing on site now a days, pls remember these are my own observations and point of view. Have peace!

ABigNerd
03-13-2013, 08:35 PM
Thank you, Alice!

I myself have never run a GS even though I was given the option within a couple of days of starting, because I never have more than a handful of guys in my room. I still end up doing a lot of private and exclusive shows, and my income is slowly but steadily going up and up, but still, I don't know what you girls who say you have 20 or more guys in your room are doing that I am not. I don't think I'm particularly niche, but I don't think I have the kind of traffic to make a GS very lucrative. I'm not sure that I care, either; I'm an introvert, so if all I have to do is chat pleasantly to 4 guys and get snatched into a show with 1 of them on a consistent basis, well, that's probably what I'm going to keep doing.

You just have to put in your time, doll. If you're on SM, it's easy to get lost among the 1,000+ models there. The more hours you put in, the more chances people have to discover your awesome self.

LittleLexy
03-13-2013, 09:16 PM
Most of my gold shows are a 5.00 buy in. I don't think I would ever do a 1 gold show because I just don't have the kind of traffic in my room to support that. I don't even know if I would do it if I did have enough traffic...probably not.

BlondebombGA
03-14-2013, 12:40 AM
Then they shouldn't be on a cam site if they can't even afford a ten dollar Gold show. Cam sites are not FB or a dating site. They know full well they are signing up for a cam site that you pay for nudity at. Everyone has bills to pay, including cam performers.

Yes honey.

Look...girls can charge whatever the hell they want, but DO NOT charge less to cater to men and their poor little bills. If they really want me they will find the $. If they want to come play with me, then they can save up and come see me every 3 days rather than another girl every day which will equal the same amount for us both in the long run.

When I was a bartender I had guys that would come in and spend $10/$20/$50 EVERY SINGLE DAY on beer and shots to relax. My company, my time, and my P*ssy is worth more than a pint of Bud Light. (Can I get an AMEN!) I agree every little bit adds up, but it adds up a whole lot faster, and at much less burn out when at a higher rate. At lower prices I just end up resenting them too much, and that is not healthy for my long term stay in this industry.

Rosemary Rabbit
03-14-2013, 10:21 AM
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SarahTime
03-14-2013, 11:29 AM
(oh btw sarah, i saw u on cam getting pretty pissed off about a guy making comments about ur "fat ass" - is not fat, is very hot actually)

Huh? I think you possibly misunderstood my reaction.... I've NEVER gotten pissed off about a guy saying I have a fat ass.... ever. I reference my fat ass 100s of times a night. Why would I get pissed of someone said I have a fat ass?

Many times I am sarcastic with guys and joke around with them.... perhaps you misunderstood?

SarahTime
03-14-2013, 11:41 AM
While I agree with Alice that you have to be appealing to the masses if you want to make good money.... I think that should be sort of obvious. I don't agree that young and slim are two of the "must haves" because many of the top performers on SM are over 30, 35, 40. And many are not stick figures.

I think the key elements really are: pretty face, good personality, english speaker.

I know that it's nice to think that anyone and their 80 year old grandma can "make it big" in camming but the sad reality is that not everyone can. Can people who don't "appeal to the masses" make money? Yah, of course. Can they make more money than they would at any other vanilla job? Sure they can. But you can't expect to be a "top earner" if you don't appeal to large amounts of people. I though this was sort of obvious?

As far as the gold show debate.... I still get privates non stop while I'm not running gold shows. I can CHOOSE not to do gold shows and I STILL make my nightly goal without issue. Sure there are slow nights of course, but guys willing to pay for privates and exclusives are still there. I understand and I get that it's frustrating to performers who don't get much traffic but that doesn't mean the site is dead as a whole, nor does it mean the site is doomed for failure.

It's all sort of silly to debate, rather than just share our own personal experiences, because it's not going to be the same for any of us. It's all a matter of perspective and none of us are standing in the exact same places. At this point I'm not going to keep going on about it. I will take in what everyone else has said as their own personal perspective, and I appreciate and find it interesting hearing what others experience, even if mine is not the same.

temptingmodel
03-14-2013, 02:20 PM
Im still confused about top performers? Is it bc of the status they hold? Which row they are in? I never got the whole top performer stigma

temptingmodel
03-14-2013, 02:23 PM
That was a sad day as all of us TRIED to stay with them and it just busted on us. Some of my best customers came from there.
I saw the same thing with Camz aka CamWorld. the site was doing fine, make changes and in the end it killed the site. It's a shame because I loved that site but if something isn't broke, then don't change it.

SweetCandy
03-14-2013, 06:30 PM
Just look up why you asking all these questions on youtube or emmanuel and phillip hudson ;)

:) Thank you!

sexyred
03-14-2013, 07:17 PM
Quite honestly, I see this as Survival of the Fittest or Social Darwinism. I was very resistant to the idea of doing Gold Shows until recently. But as I saw my earnings start to decrease, I started them. And you know what? I make the same or more when I do them. I don't do the all of the time, but on shifts when I can't get anyone to take me private, I start them. I don't see this as only seeing myself as worth $5 GOLD or whatever the buy-in is. I see the big picture. Guys can see me free on tube sites, I'm sure anyway... So I charge what I charge to make the most possible profits.

I'm in the first few rows of SM, but I'm 30 and not skinny nor a pornstar. Not totally sure I believe those are requirements for success for Gold Shows...

BlondebombGA
03-14-2013, 07:52 PM
It's not about worth for me as in my personal worth, it's the fact that I know these guys can spend more if they really want something. If you attach your worth to anything in life you are screwed at some point. But if people can spend $$ on pleasures like beer and cigs, well then I expect more. Guys have no problem paying $20+ for a lap dance which lasts 2-3 min. and they are getting a lot more than a lap dance from us.

I had an ex who used to say...at the end of the day p*ssy is p*ssy is p*ssy, meaning really that once you're in it's all the same. It's the woman attached to said p*ssy that matters. All of us are so different and have different things that attract men to us, If a guy is attracted to me he will pay to see me.

TheBrownFox
03-14-2013, 09:15 PM
It's the fact that I know these guys can spend more if they really want something.

If people can spend $$ on pleasures like beer and cigs, well then I expect more. Guys have no problem paying $20+ for a lap dance which lasts 2-3 min. and they are getting a lot more than a lap dance from us.

Yeah, this was exactly the point I was trying to make in an earlier post. You see some of the guys on these sites acting like it's ABSURD to spend a few dollars on a live cam model, yet you see those same guys bragging about the new such-and-such (some luxury item that costs way more than the price of a cam show) they've just bought. And you know that they DO have jobs, but tossing 5 Gold your way in public chat (when they want a flash) is like such an unreasonable request...LOL.

Marina Starr
03-14-2013, 09:19 PM
It is because some of these fuckers think that they're doing us a favor by giving us the time of the day. So in return, they expect to see tits, ass and the whole enchilada for free. The way I see it, if you want to ride the pony, you gotta put some $$$ in the meter.

Yeah, this was exactly the point I was trying to make in an earlier post. You see some of the guys on these sites acting like it's ABSURD to spend a few dollars on a live cam model, yet you see those same guys bragging about the new such-and-such (some luxury item that costs way more than the price of a cam show) they've just bought. And you know that they DO have jobs, but tossing 5 Gold your way in public chat (when they want a flash) is like such an unreasonable request...LOL.

simone87
03-14-2013, 09:38 PM
its human nature to try and bargain your way down to as little as possible, we just can't budge!! its true, guys pay for fancy cars, 10 dollar shot after shot of patron, etc so they CAN pay to see beautiful naked pussy! no pity from me about their bills, if you can't afford it, cry me a river and gtfo. the girls who get manipulated, or desperate and give up and charge next to nothing are harming the market and have no business sense, but not much you can do unfortunately :( you just have to hold strong and classy guys will pay!

justanothercamgirl
03-15-2013, 02:45 AM
To bring the thread back to what the OP originally asked about. (Kind of.) ;)

I have a easy solution for girls not giving everything away in free.

Streamate should start enforcing the rules that it claims we all have to follow on a regular basis.

The end. ;)

Instead of blaming gold show or other girls for 'giving it all away' wouldn't it make the most sense to put the majority of the blame on Streamate where it belongs since it allows girls to break rules without consequences?

Blovely
03-15-2013, 07:20 AM
its human nature to try and bargain your way down to as little as possible, we just can't budge!! its true, guys pay for fancy cars, 10 dollar shot after shot of patron, etc so they CAN pay to see beautiful naked pussy! no pity from me about their bills, if you can't afford it, cry me a river and gtfo. You just have to hold strong and guys will pay!
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Agreed. Especially with the bolded.

Rosemary Rabbit
03-15-2013, 09:49 AM
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Via Flaminia
03-15-2013, 10:16 AM
I actually have really enjoyed this thread even if a lot of us disagree. It feels like a big table at supper and we're all hollerin' about our opinions. <3 you betches.

Same here. It is definitely a matter of opinion and I enjoy hearing all sides.

justanothercamgirl
03-15-2013, 10:52 AM
Same here. It is definitely a matter of opinion and I enjoy hearing all sides.

I am right there with you guys. I freaking live for it!

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