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CamL
03-26-2013, 08:48 AM
As a general matter some people just dont understand they are not entitled to get all they want, some people are soo used to preferential treatment that when they dont get it anymore they just dont know how to cope with new situation. It's crazy but true, some will develop mental issues when they loose things in life like partners, jobs, friends, they feel betrayed and act not normal anymore, seen this with my ex fiance when he lost his good job (he was fired and i never knew the real reason they fired him as he said he left on his own).
That job meant soo much for him that he could not cope with the situation and all his life went upside down also causing our relation to die.

If things dont work out for u the way u want them to work dont make the mistake to show this to ur members, people dont care who u are (were) on site, what is ur reputation, they just want to see a hot lady looking to please them and is important they get positive vibes from you so they want u for a pvt show. Now if u start bitching, complaining, showing how smart u are towards others or site staff u'll get the opposite, guys will leave u 'in peace' to deal with ur own shit, they'll go to other model willing and ready to take care of their sexual needs. well, we talking here about a basic instinct we need to fulfill in our members, the sex, so be sexy, smart (but keep it to urself dont brag about it towards them), dont bash other models or site staff, keep a low profile and do your job. no matter how frustrated i am, i'll not let it off on cam, i'll always wear my sexy smile and positive attitude on cam.

Another thing, i have 2 principles i follow in life: "Never bite the hand that is feeding you" and "dont be an ass kisser or company advocate". i will now explain how i see things regarding these principles.
If u work on a site but not happy with how things work for you and u bash them (site staff) in front of ur members and all over the place, oh well, this is looking pretty bad to everyone, 1st of all u should not be there, staying and bashing it shows how incapable u are to conduct ur business, so either do things better so u dont have to bash or leave for a better place where u happier.

About being an ass kisser and site advocate, this is also a wrong approach in my eyes cause first of all u have no credibility towards ur co workers, sometimes it happens u will not be in their favor anymore for whatever reason and well, things can turn ugly for you. I dont want to tell more and give specific example but some of you know what i am talking about. Be as neutral as possible, do ur job and do it good no matter how bad u feel about it or how frustrated you are, if u feel not happy with ur job or company better leave for a better place, do it with dignity and start from scratch or give up camming and do something else if u want a drastical change that will improve ur life quality.

Just my 2 cent, Have peace!

w/o fail you can see this model (the one with all the years experience blah blah) tear-up and appear to be on the verge of crying every-night that she is online. Last-night she was complaining that she was on the 7th page. I just so happened not to be logged in and found her on the first page.... so I logged in to tell her that she was indeed on the first page. A normal person would be relieved, but she had 3-8 people in her room. She proceeded to go on a diatribe about how these 5 or so additional members (bumped her to around 11) were streamate plants or bots. Moreover she thought streamate moved her from page 7 to page 1 b/c she was complaining and making the conspiracy too obvious. I just wanted to yell at her and be like seriously... you make no money.... and you think streamate cares enough to play games with you? Its a delusion of self-importance to combat the one true problem that all of us have or will encounter in this industry.

We age and die. In general, as we age, our incomes will decline unless we diversify and hustle even harder, but in the end it will decline. You can complain and pretend that declining revenue is attributable to some outside factor. I'm still beautiful. As someone said before, don't let a sense of entitlement be a bar to success. Maybe and hopefully you will be beautiful at 100 but we must face facts. The model in question is not 100 but she has the self-induced attractiveness of someone in that general age.

In conclusion, SM may fizzle. I nor anyone else knows that date. The only thing I can focus on is myself and dealing with the fact/adapting to the fact that I may age-out prior to SM--don't force yourself into early retirement by going mental!

Incantatious
03-26-2013, 09:14 AM
If we're all speaking about the same, correct model, this woman is freaking stunning. Like there are women way, way younger than her who aren't half as *conventionally* attractive as her. She doesn't need to hustle harder "because of her age" or anything - she can still easily pass as early-mid twenties - she just needs to forget the idea of the guys who pay her for her services so she can pay her bills, as being "bots" and so on. That is her biggest obstacle.

Let me also mention that there are many women who are well into their forties on SM, who clearly have a background spent in the sunshine (generous laughter lines!) who are top row, great placement, great earners. They know their own niche and they work it. You don't need to be young and blonde to have a profitable niche - that's the whole point. Despite obvious signs of aging, they are certainly "still beautiful" to their clients. :)

You don't lose earning-power with age. For as long as I keep seeing these 40+ year old smokin' hot dommes on the front page, etc, I will continue to be 100% sure of that. (FTR: Older ladies seem extremely in-demand for domination roles, and actually preferable than younger women for this role for some men). The only thing that makes you think that, is that your niche changes with as you show physical signs of age.

It's the whole reason why you could have a 18 year old mother, and call her a "MILF", be correct about that (she is a mother), and you risk making way less than if she was marketed as a "babe". It's why you could have a woman of 37, who still looked like 20 year old babe, but if you market her as a MILF because she's 37, it'll be less profitable because her niche would still fall into the "babe" category because that's what she looked most like.

CamL
03-26-2013, 09:25 AM
Its silly to argue that earning power isn't lost with age. We obviously start with different levels however. I'm sure she earned much more when she was younger (guys normally will pick the the 20 year old over the 40 year old), and I believe her obsession with declining earnings is what set the run-away train into motion. Her problem is not her age, I agree. Its how she has turned possibly a slight decline (possibly attributable to the earning power differential b/w 13 years ago and present) into a complete disaster by nosediving into the deepend of the crazy pool.

Incantatious
03-26-2013, 10:07 AM
Its silly to argue that earning power isn't lost with age. We obviously start with different levels however. I'm sure she earned much more when she was younger (guys normally will pick the the 20 year old over the 40 year old), and I believe her obsession with declining earnings is what set the run-away train into motion. Her problem is not her age, I agree. Its how she has turned possibly a slight decline (possibly attributable to the earning power differential b/w 13 years ago and present) into a complete disaster by nosediving into the deepend of the crazy pool.

It certainly isn't silly. As I said, earning power changes depending on how a performer looks at her business. You can be a hot young 20 year old and make a shit camgirl; you can be a 40-something year old lady and make an absolute killing as a camgirl. There are reasons as to why many top performers on SM are actually above the stereotypical "peak" age that men are reported to go for.

Anyhow I must leave this here lest I derail this thread onto a debate about aging camgirls! XD

hf487
03-26-2013, 11:22 AM
what are the glitches?! Ive read a little bit but havent found out exactly what it is. The past few weeks ive had complaints on Freezing... Is that it?!

TheBrownFox
03-26-2013, 11:32 AM
what are the glitches?! Ive read a little bit but havent found out exactly what it is. The past few weeks ive had complaints on Freezing... Is that it?!

I think they're talking about the fact that models are getting disconnected from their Gold shows and premium/exclusive shows, and things like that.

Also, lately there's this thing where I'll be visiting a model friend on my member account, and I'll have the eyeball open in the chat, but the guys still can't see any of my posts. Only the model herself is able to see my posts. So all the guys are sitting there having conversations with each other, and I'm typing responses to them, but none of them can see any of my posts.

~Carmen~
03-26-2013, 02:08 PM
Well I'm in my 50's and I do great :)

JaneBurgess
03-26-2013, 03:16 PM
She sounds like a very miserable bitch that needs a good fuck and some hobbies. Frankly I feel sorry for anyone that can't get their head out of their ass and has to bash other performers because they suck.



I've been reluctant to post this for quite some time, but reading this thread I feel that I owe it to You ladies who are on SM.
If You have been very successful, and on the top 2 pages, and have been discouraged by your earnings lately, or for the past few months, this is directed toward You.
There is a front page model on SM that is spending most of her free chat bashing models. She gets very few shows,(and is on for 8 or so hours at a time). She tells custies how she is friends with Vanessa and Liz, and talks badly (non-stop) to people in her room about other models. I always pop into her room when I am camming, just to see if she is talking about me. I even watched her late one night, when her room was dead, just watching other models, and probably taking notes.-It was late night, so she probably forgot her cam was streaming. I even heard her tell guys that SM is going under, and to go to livejasmin, and that's where she is going(she never did,that was over 6 months ago).
I even popped into her room one day about 3 months ago, and said hello, and let her know it was me, and she just said, "Oh, Hi", in a deadpan manner. Bingo!!
When I was sick with the flu in January and February, I had time to sit in her room, and observe all the model bashing for HOURS!! Geez! It must be nice to live in the boonies of the midwest,like she does, and not have to make a large salary from camming like I do living in the city. She has W-A-Y to much time on her hands, and is soooo bitter, You can taste the venom through the screen.
I've had so many new screen names come in and say,"Hey, I heard You did...xyz, and You claim to be the best at it. Are You?" Heard what?- from who? Is there a forum for custies to talk about us? I doubt men have that kind of time or interest. of course those guys never go prvt.
She was even bragging the other day to customers that she helped a girl on SM that she is friends with raise her score by buying a block session from her, and popping in and out and rating her until her score was a '5' again.
She constantly talks about how much we, as models make (as far as percentages, etc), and just on, and on about things custies shouldn't know about.
I finally got my answer to whether she has been lurking my room, because since I have added something new to my shows last week, she now has the headline line that she is the 'creator' of the type of show I'm now doing! lol! As if!!
Since I am not allowed to mention this person on here, I am just letting You know that if You haven't been doing well suddenly on SM, or for the past few months, It's most likely this model that is bashing You too.
I'm not even going to bother complaining to SM about her, because it probably won't do any good.

JaneBurgess
03-26-2013, 03:22 PM
Um no they don't. The whole MILF explosion has customers wanting to cam with women in their 30's and 40's. I think it's pretty rude to think because someone is 20 they are going to earn more then someone 40. Cam isn't based on age, it's based on your personality, how good of a show you give, what you do, ect. The top models on Streamate are in their 30's.



Its silly to argue that earning power isn't lost with age. We obviously start with different levels however. I'm sure she earned much more when she was younger (guys normally will pick the the 20 year old over the 40 year old), and I believe her obsession with declining earnings is what set the run-away train into motion. Her problem is not her age, I agree. Its how she has turned possibly a slight decline (possibly attributable to the earning power differential b/w 13 years ago and present) into a complete disaster by nosediving into the deepend of the crazy pool.

temptingmodel
03-26-2013, 06:41 PM
There is a front page model on SM that is spending most of her free chat bashing models. I know you want to PM me. I KNOW YOU WANT TO PM ME ;) lol bc I you know why I want you to PM me or STOP BY MY ROOMZ

justanothercamgirl
03-26-2013, 10:00 PM
Haha. I just laugh when people act like their niche is the shit and has never been done before. It must be nice to be so nieve. :)

It isn't about what has been done in the past, it is all about how you present it in the future.

If it wasn't, Hollywood would never make a movie ever again. ;)

Sam38g
03-27-2013, 12:22 PM
Glitches happen.
I see SM constantly trying to improve the site. Hence where some of the glitches come from. I don't mind cause I know the end goal for them & us to make more money.

They actually do listen to us, which other cams sites don't. In the past few years, I've seen them make improvements and adapt the site in new ways like the gold shows. I make money with or without them, it is totally up to me(love that).

You can't make everyone happy.
Yes 5 years ago we were all making more money. But then so was the whole adult industry & the world in general. We were all hit by the economy and the adult industry a double whammy with tubesites & torrent downloads. Not just SM was effected by all cam sites & adult sites were. I fail to see how this is SM's fault.

Or maybe you aren't as good as you were 5 yrs ago. I can't compare the money I got for shoots 10 yrs ago, because the industry paid better then & I was 10 yrs YOUNGER! But over all due to camming I am making great money on a regular basis. Can't live in the past, but have to live in today's market which is extremely different from 3 yrs ago, 5 yrs ago, 10 yrs ago. It all evolves. Waxing on about the past does no good.

Good Luck,
Sam

justanothercamgirl
03-27-2013, 02:30 PM
I know you want to PM me. I KNOW YOU WANT TO PM ME ;) lol bc I you know why I want you to PM me or STOP BY MY ROOMZ

I stalk you all the time, bb!

But I don't think you were talking to me. ;D