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kortneykay
04-06-2013, 12:02 PM
Thanks, I meant like the lonnngggggg hours of just sitting there waiting for pvts.

GlamourRouge
04-06-2013, 12:29 PM
GLAMOURROUGE~ You work in the middle of the night mostly, so of COURSE Anybody makes more money then~Especially girls from the United States, so CUT THE CRAP with trying to divert these girls who are trying to make more money! or give them Your screen name on SM so they can watch your hustle.

I actually just work whenever I can fit it in. Its usually the daytime actually. Around this time.

Via Flaminia
04-06-2013, 12:29 PM
Just a quick update, and to address all the above comments. I tried doing just Gold Shows lasting 7-15 minutes, instead of free chat yesterday, and made my daily goal in 1 hour, and was able to log off, instead of working 4-6 hours with non-stop demands and beggers, and the same old screen names always popping into free. It was Fun, easy, and it also let me know who's interested in a show, and who is not. Don't forget that a new customer is hesitant in going prvt., because he really doesn't know if it's where he should spend his hard earned money. Can't blame him. But putting in $5,or putting whatever money You set Your rate for the gold show, will let him know You are giving a great show. i USUALLY HAVE GUYS COME BACK AND GO EXCLUSIVE.Yesterday I even had guys want my next type of gold show, and they entered into it gladly.
GLAMOURROUGE~ You work in the middle of the night mostly, so of COURSE Anybody makes more money then~Especially girls from the United States, so CUT THE CRAP with trying to divert these girls who are trying to make more money! or give them Your screen name on SM so they can watch your hustle.
Regarding the KGB girls, don't confuse them with the girls on the front page who are in a studio in Las Vegas.There are many of them, and I do agree that they "hustle' very hard, and work long hours.KGB girls, not so much. I will look into whether I would have to relinquish my SM account, and if any of You now have that info, let us all know.

This thread was just trying to help in not only avoiding free chat if You hate it(as The thread headline states), or a suggestion in making more money by going with a winning studio. That's all.

Congrats and thank you. This actually makes me want to try Gold Shows again for the first time in a year.

Looking back my comments above were totally off-topic GM & I apologize for that. Like you said, the title of this thread clearly states what it's about. I have to be more mindful. :)

Marina Starr
04-06-2013, 12:36 PM
For the girls in the US, what time frame would you consider working "middle of the night"?

GlamourRouge
04-06-2013, 12:44 PM
For the girls in the US, what time frame would you consider working "middle of the night"?

I'm not sure, I rarely work after midnight on Streamate because it slows down for me

Marina Starr
04-06-2013, 12:49 PM
Thank you! That's why I'm always switching up my hours. Lately I've been making a lot more in the daytime than at night. I really don't have much energy left after midnight either.

I'm not sure, I rarely work after midnight on Streamate because it slows down for me

GlamourRouge
04-06-2013, 12:55 PM
Thank you! That's why I'm always switching up my hours. Lately I've been making a lot more in the daytime than at night. I really don't have much energy left after midnight either.

I mostly just work when I can though. But for the last couple months I'm rarely up past midnight and definitely too tired by that time to cam if I am up. I mostly just base my camming schedule around my regular life. My regulars always seem to find me or tell me when they'd like me to be on.

kittykrane
04-06-2013, 01:05 PM
DING! The lightbulb just went off in my head regarding this thread. I'm guessing the countdown is very short...all these guys wait until the last few minutes anyhow to pledge! The point is NOT to give them time to start begging, hanging out jerking it, etc..........Then you do however long a show you want to do, whether you met the goal or not, do it! There have been times when I've sat for 10-15 minutes with no exclusives/privates...I could have been making something! I wouldn't do long shows though, just so my regulars who do like their 1on1s would not have to sit around too long waiting until I'm free. But dang, for 5 gold, join the show and warm that cock up!

caramelDip
04-06-2013, 01:24 PM
i just watched a model on the front page reach HER GS in less than 10 min....she looks soooo young and someone was typing for her while she was teasing. They typed "please give me Gold. Im so hungry and I dont have any money".....then some rude ass came on saying "bitch u aint no virgin. this bitch dont even talk. blah blah"....wtf??

SweetPinkCupcake
04-06-2013, 01:51 PM
I made a thread about this topic months and months ago because I was pissed off one night that it was slow, lolol. Shawn emailed me and asked why I thought what I thought about KGB studios, and that he didn't even know what a KGB girl was.
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?175850-The-STUDIO-GIRLS-get-ALL-the-TRAFFIC!!!

Jaana
04-06-2013, 02:41 PM
i just watched a model on the front page reach HER GS in less than 10 min....she looks soooo young and someone was typing for her while she was teasing. They typed "please give me Gold. Im so hungry and I dont have any money".....then some rude ass came on saying "bitch u aint no virgin. this bitch dont even talk. blah blah"....wtf??I hate sob stories. And I hate when models have people type for them. And I hate rude customers.

Rosexxxx
04-06-2013, 03:30 PM
I would love to try that gold show idea Glamourmilf. What goal number do you put and what is the timer on for the gold show?
Thanks

Marina Starr
04-06-2013, 05:37 PM
Thank you so much! I'm gonna give it a try and see how it goes! I work under the Transgender category on SM and the guys I have in my room are like 10 at the most so I don't think I could do GS.

Marina, middle of the night in the US would be from 1 am est-5 est. It's Magic Golden time!! Lots of guys from the respectful and bountiful uk, and australia. But You can see how You would have to then sleep when the day is beginning.

TheBrownFox
04-06-2013, 05:55 PM
I'm not sure, I rarely work after midnight on Streamate because it slows down for me

Yeah, it seems like at around 1-something AM EST is when things would just get weird...meaning the tips have stopped, and I'm getting a bunch of weirdos whose conversation makes no sense. As if they went to the bar for a little bit, got drunk, and then came home and hopped on Streamate...lol.

Blovely
04-06-2013, 06:53 PM
Well I tried your voyeur chat idea GlamourMilf but I changed it up a little bit. I made $48, its not alot but its something for ignoring freechat. I tried to keep it on all night but it cut off while I was asleep. Freechat is really draining and it causes me to get really bitchy when its slow. This voyeur thing relives the stress that freechat causes. So I'm going to try an do it all the time. I think I'm going to try the gold show thing too. I still want my regulars to be able to interact with me though so I think that I'm going to make some type of schedule for voyeur chat, interactive gold shows, and normal freechat. Glad you made this thread.

CurvyWinona
04-06-2013, 08:09 PM
How can I make my goal work without having to talk to guys? I noticed guys like gs girls who do talk. =\

BlueBunny
04-06-2013, 09:19 PM
Well I tried your voyeur chat idea GlamourMilf but I changed it up a little bit. I made $48, its not alot but its something for ignoring freechat. I tried to keep it on all night but it cut off while I was asleep. Freechat is really draining and it causes me to get really bitchy when its slow. This voyeur thing relives the stress that freechat causes. So I'm going to try an do it all the time. I think I'm going to try the gold show thing too. I still want my regulars to be able to interact with me though so I think that I'm going to make some type of schedule for voyeur chat, interactive gold shows, and normal freechat. Glad you made this thread.

If you don't mind me asking, what is a voyeur show as it pertains to SM? Is it a gold show where you're off doing something else while guys watch you? I find that idea interesting but I'm a newbie at this so I wasn't sure how it's actually done.

Blovely
04-07-2013, 02:11 AM
If you don't mind me asking, what is a voyeur show as it pertains to SM? Is it a gold show where you're off doing something else while guys watch you? I find that idea interesting but I'm a newbie at this so I wasn't sure how it's actually done.
You can do voyeur via gold show but no that's not what I did. I put in my room topic that my cam was in Voyeur mode. I pointed the cam at my bed and went about my business. I was able to make money from it because I still accepted pvt shows...that's what I meant when I said I changed it up a bit. When someone wanted a show they either jumped into pvt or tipped gold. After I was done with a pvt show I put my cam back into voyeur mode. I pretty much ignored freechat the whole time. The only time I gave freechat attention is when I saw a bunch of guys leaving me messages aka not reading my room topic. I told them to read my room topic and then I went back to voyeur mode.

I did voyeur again today and made my daily goal and some change "yah". A couple of my regulars come through and jumped right into pvt. They didn't complain about the voyeur mode...they didn't even mention it lol. It has been interesting to say the least. This has allowed me to be online for hours, still make money, and not feel drained/bitchy.

kittykrane
04-07-2013, 07:07 AM
^^ I assume you stayed nearby though so you could hear if they came in the room or tipped...Me "going about my business" would take me all over the house! But I guess sometimes it does beat talking to them..I like to do crafts and it was funny because one day I was doing that while I was on my other site, pretty much ignoring the guys, looking up every now and then. I actually got some tips and some asked for a private, but I couldn't take them at the time because I had family staying with me.

Glamourmilf
04-07-2013, 07:28 AM
BLOVELY~ I'm soooo DELIGHTED to hear how the Voyeur shows are working for You! Congrats! It is a definite mood booster, isn't it, when You can kick back, hear the gold coming in, and still be available to watch t.v., or whatever You want to do? Plus the added bonus of being able to do prvts., should they come in. Yeah, for You!!
I will try that this week, since I mainly do the gs variety of voyeur, and actual shows when i'm in gs mode.
Sitting in free is cool, and I like that fresh idea.
Thanks for that!! Glam

Glamourmilf
04-07-2013, 07:34 AM
Curvy, You still can talk in the short countdown, (or not if You don't want to). It's all up to You, really. Just experiment and find what works.

MommieLongLegs
04-07-2013, 08:04 AM
I've done voyeur in free chat as well (like a year ago), and it was always nice. I'm not sure why I stopped doing it. I get antsy and annoyed just sitting there staring at the screen for hours. Constantly dancing gets tiring, too. So, I like the idea of staying busy while not exhausting myself and entertaining a bunch of "o I'm just bored and want someone to talk to" guys all day.

BlueBunny
04-07-2013, 08:46 AM
^^^ Thank you bunches ladies for all this wonderful advice. As a new girl, SM is killing my soul with freechat. lol The very few guys that do stop by my room are there less than 3 seconds before they split. I would try GS but the few ratings I got when I first started in December just expired so I don't have GS enabled yet. I'm going to try voyeur in free and see if I can handle it better like that. God knows I'd split SM with other sites if I could, but my computer can't handle it. SM seems the most resource hungry out of the sites I've tried so far even without encoder use.

CurvyWinona
04-07-2013, 08:54 AM
Voyeur sounds great idea for me. My husband and I always spend 3-6 hours in whirlpool watching several movies. Nice to earn some money just being a loving couples enjoying each other! How much buy in do u guys ask for voyeur? Will I must make a couples account for this? I'd hate to make a new one only to be buried in pages back.

BlueBunny
04-07-2013, 09:08 AM
CurvyWinona, I don't think we are ever supposed to be on cam with another person if that person is not registered and age verified with that site. It's the sort of thing that leads to account closings on some sites. I'm no expert at this, but logic dictates you would have to open a couples account if your hubby is going to be visible, and then you might get asked to do more on cam with him, so idk, depends on you and what you want to do in that department.

Marina Starr
04-07-2013, 10:02 AM
Just did my first gold show but I didn't see what I made! How long does it take for it to show up?

TheBrownFox
04-07-2013, 10:33 AM
Just did my first gold show but I didn't see what I made! How long does it take for it to show up?

I've read posts saying that it can take 15 or 20 minutes to show up.

MarleyCat
04-07-2013, 10:46 AM
I'm going to give it a shot today.

I tried the goldshow idea last night but it just wasn't a good night last night. Guys would come in for a few seconds and then leave, or come in and sit there and say nothing. On either MFC or Streamate for me, I got all the compliments but no privates or anything. I don't really have a following on either site yet since I'm kinda new.

I did well when I first started but that was during Spring Break and I could be at home. Now I'm working my day job but when I get home I'm sooo tired, the last thing I want to do is get on cam and do freechat even though I love camming. Last week was bad since I couldn't really log on at all.
I just want to close the gap as much as I can today so I'm going to give it a shot.

They won't tip me when I'm paying attention, maybe they'll tip me to get my attention lol

BellaBellini
04-07-2013, 11:27 AM
Voyeur sounds great idea for me. My husband and I always spend 3-6 hours in whirlpool watching several movies. Nice to earn some money just being a loving couples enjoying each other! How much buy in do u guys ask for voyeur? Will I must make a couples account for this? I'd hate to make a new one only to be buried in pages back.

Yes you have to open up a couples account. But it's good to have that second account for voyeur shows. Most guys don't read your profile and think they are going to get a full on interactive xxx show. So you get some low ratings on premium and exclusive chats.

I suppose you can get Streamate to remove those. But it's just easier to have a second account to focus on guys who are voyeurs.

shysara79
04-07-2013, 04:19 PM
Glamour... would you say that the gold showsin place of free chat strategy would work if you are someone that typically does not have more than 8-11 guests in your room at a time? I have had a rough time getting gold shows to work for this reason.. Thanks for your input :)

Marina Starr
04-07-2013, 04:23 PM
I believe you don't need a lot of guys in your room to do gold show, you only need a few generous gentlemen to make things happen!

Glamour... would you say that the gold showsin place of free chat strategy would work if you are someone that typically does not have more than 8-11 guests in your room at a time? I have had a rough time getting gold shows to work for this reason.. Thanks for your input :)

kortneykay
04-07-2013, 04:35 PM
I like the idea of the voyeur cam. I'd prefer to do my daily chores, getting ready, and occasionally teasing the camera while they look, etc then just sit there for hours entertaining.

kittykrane
04-07-2013, 04:43 PM
I believe you don't need a lot of guys in your room to do gold show, you only need a few generous gentlemen to make things happen!
I wish I could attract some GENEROUS ones...that seldom happens...I get the ones who put in the bare minimum..some will pitch in a couple extra bucks, but BIG DADDIES? pffft..I wish!

shysara79
04-07-2013, 04:45 PM
I believe you don't need a lot of guys in your room to do gold show, you only need a few generous gentlemen to make things happen!

Well maybe I am not lucky enough to have ever had any of those generous gentleman show up when I was trying to do one. I had honestly come to the conclusion that only girls that had alot and I mean alot of people in their rooms were able to pull them off. I sure wish I was one of them tho. I do alright with privates and exclusives.. but would love to be able to pull off gold shows!

Blovely
04-07-2013, 04:48 PM
^^ I assume you stayed nearby though so you could hear if they came in the room or tipped...Me "going about my business" would take me all over the house! But I guess sometimes it does beat talking to them..I like to do crafts and it was funny because one day I was doing that while I was on my other site, pretty much ignoring the guys, looking up every now and then. I actually got some tips and some asked for a private, but I couldn't take them at the time because I had family staying with me.
Yes I did stay near it. I was chilling out in my bed in my panties watching tv and on my other computer. If you're on a laptop and have a strong enough wireless connection or even a long enough Ethernet cable then you could take your cam/computer all over the house with you. I just brought an 125ft Ethernet cable from Amazon for $11... saw 150ft and 200ft cables as well. It'd probably be annoying to lug a laptop and wires all over the house but I think it be worth it since you'd be able to make money as you go/on the go. If you have or could get a rolly cart then you could even put your computer on that and just roll it to where ever you are. If you do toy shows you could also put your toys, lube, and wipes in the baskets.


BLOVELY~ I'm soooo DELIGHTED to hear how the Voyeur shows are working for You! Congrats! It is a definite mood booster, isn't it, when You can kick back, hear the gold coming in, and still be available to watch t.v., or whatever You want to do? Plus the added bonus of being able to do prvts., should they come in. Yeah, for You!!
I will try that this week, since I mainly do the gs variety of voyeur, and actual shows when i'm in gs mode.
Sitting in free is cool, and I like that fresh idea.
Thanks for that!! Glam
Yes girl it was refreshing and a mood booster. It was so nice to be able to be online all day.. make money and not feel completely drained. I see no reason to turn my cam off now lol. You're welcome but I give my thanks to you since you gave me the idea.

kortneykay
04-07-2013, 04:55 PM
Now, I know what voyeur means, but are you guys making eye contact or acknowledging the guys at all besides when it chimes for gold or privates? Also, are you sleeping at all or just leaving it on for when you're at home?

Marina Starr
04-07-2013, 05:11 PM
I just want to mention that while I'm counting down to a GS, if any of my regulars pop in and want to take me pvt/exclusive, I will cancel the gold show if it's worth my while. Some still want that one on one attention!

shysara79
04-07-2013, 05:21 PM
I might just say f it and try Gold shows again.. I mean I guess it really wont hurt. Ill let u guys know how it turns out. I am usually on the first or top of second page, so I have no idea why I cant pull em off. I mean I really cant even get one guy to put in.. Its odd. I have tried 5 dollar shows and 3 dollar shows with no luck.. I must be doing something wrong,, who knows.

JJLights89
04-07-2013, 05:22 PM
Wow the voyeur things sound like a fun thing to do with my husband. He wanted to make a couples account on SM. His lack of self esteem stopped him though and he had no problem with just me doing it. Having an interesting hotel night would be neat and I don't mean just having sex. But a show where you and your bubby are just enjoying each others company in a another place. the hot tub thing got me thinking "what if you were in a bubbly jacuzzi or something :D"

Glamourmilf
04-07-2013, 05:25 PM
^^ Yep. I do that too Marina. Just be aware that some random person seems to ALWAYS pop in when Your countdown is happening, and ask for a prvt. I have made the mistake to say sure, and cancel the gs, a few times, and then the wacko leaves! Also, always keep Your 'eye on the ball',(no pun intended), and getting guys to pledge in that short amount of time, because somebody will also try to get You involved in a conversation about something, and It distracts You from the goal. I really think when that happens, that those are just other models, because regular guys are too busy grabbing their dicks and salivating waiting until the gs starts. he doesn't want to talk about what he had for dinner last night, or about the weather!

Blovely
04-07-2013, 05:26 PM
Now, I know what voyeur means, but are you guys making eye contact or acknowledging the guys at all besides when it chimes for gold or privates?

No I didn't really give guys any attention if they didn't gold or go pvt. The only time I gave attention was when I saw a bunch of guys not reading my room topic. I looked at the cam and told them to read my room topic because I'm not paying attention to freechat. I also typed it in case they didn't have sound. I went back to ignoring freechat after that...no eye contact or acknowledgement.

I also gave a little attention to a guy who asked if my pvt was going to be voyeur as well (but he had spent money on me before so...). I told him no that pvt was a regular show, explained to him how my voyeur chat worked, and told him if he didn't want a show that I'd be going back to voyeur mode. He tipped gold and then went pvt.


Also, are you sleeping at all or just leaving it on for when you're at home?
I tried leaving it on while I was asleep but it cut off. I dunna how long it was on while I was asleep. I'm just going to leave/turn it on while I'm awake or at least until I get gold show enable.

Marina Starr
04-07-2013, 05:28 PM
I would only accept guys who have spent a decent amount of money on me. You gotta be selective!

^^ Yep. I do that too Marina. Just be aware that some random person seems to ALWAYS pop in when Your countdown is happening, and ask for a prvt. I have made the mistake to say sure, and cancel the gs, a few times, and then the wacko leaves! Also, always keep Your 'eye on the ball',(no pun intended), and getting guys to pledge in that short amount of time, because somebody will also try to get You involved in a conversation about something, and It distracts You from the goal. I really think when that happens, that those are just other models, because regular guys are too busy grabbing their dicks and salivating waiting until the gs starts. he doesn't want to talk about what he had for dinner last night, or about the weather!

Marina Starr
04-07-2013, 05:51 PM
I think I may do a Gold Show on how to do your hair and make-up, female voice lessons to the crossdressers that love to cum into my room and asking me if I'm really a Transsexual, LMFAO!

Glamourmilf
04-07-2013, 06:07 PM
^^That's COOL Marina! Do IT! I bet if You did tutorials on youtube with a link to Your sm acct., You'd corner the market.
P.S. Why are the men and others in your category on SM able to show their penis', and woman can't show va-ja-ja? Not that I want to, I'm just saying that it seems one sided,no? I sometimes go into the hot guys rooms, and lots are wacking off? what's up with that? Is it just the 'money shot' that custies pay for?

Marina Starr
04-07-2013, 06:16 PM
They are not supposed to but we have ones that will break the rules just like some will do the same in your category. Just a friendly correction, the models in my category are not men. We're transsexuals women. I have seen straight up dudes in my category and I'm like WTF? Are those the ones you're referring to? Because I'm not a man!

^^That's COOL Marina! Do IT! I bet if You did tutorials on youtube with a link to Your sm acct., You'd corner the market.
P.S. Why are the men and others in your category on SM able to show their penis', and woman can't show va-ja-ja? Not that I want to, I'm just saying that it seems one sided,no? I sometimes go into the hot guys rooms, and lots are wacking off? what's up with that? Is it just the 'money shot' that custies pay for?

Glamourmilf
04-07-2013, 06:35 PM
^^oh, Yes, those are the ones I'm referring to~dick and tits? I'm sooo confused!!

Marina Starr
04-07-2013, 06:38 PM
Dick and tits = preoperative (pre-op) transsexual.



^^oh, Yes, those are the ones I'm referring to~dick and tits? I'm sooo confused!!

temptingmodel
04-07-2013, 06:46 PM
midnight for you is 3 or 4 am my time and yes it does slow down.
I'm not sure, I rarely work after midnight on Streamate because it slows down for me

Glamourmilf
04-07-2013, 07:04 PM
Thanks Marina for clarifying that. Yeah, those are the ones who are whacking it in free on SM~Those NAUGHTY pre-ops!!

Marina Starr
04-07-2013, 07:07 PM
No problems! Don't you live in LA or some kind of big city? I'm surprised you're not exposed to more Transsexual?

Thanks Marina for clarifying that. Yeah, those are the ones who are whacking it in free on SM~Those NAUGHTY pre-ops!!