View Full Version : Do to all the negativity~this post is being removed~You're on your own!
shysara79
04-07-2013, 07:24 PM
I think I may do a Gold Show on how to do your hair and make-up, female voice lessons to the crossdressers that love to cum into my room and asking me if I'm really a Transsexual, LMFAO!
What a Creative Idea.. I think u should give that a try.. Let us know how it goes.. Good Luck :)
Glamourmilf
04-07-2013, 07:34 PM
I used to live in L.A. forever, until 6 months ago when i came back to the East coast after the hurricane. I even lived in West Hollywood at one time,but I only went to the gay parade once.. I never met any trannies. or maybe I did, but if i did, they weren't walking around advertising that they had....Whatever they did or didn't have. i wasn't a part of their world.
Pearl_Sugar
04-07-2013, 07:45 PM
I seriously think I may just do that. I HATE free chat! It used to be so great before December, now it's all freeloaders and two second peepers. I'm going to try this gold show tomorrow night. $5 for 30 minutes and I'll just be naked and chatting the entire night.
GlamourRouge
04-07-2013, 07:54 PM
I used to live in L.A. forever, until 6 months ago when i came back to the East coast after the hurricane. I even lived in West Hollywood at one time,but I only went to the gay parade once.. I never met any trannies. or maybe I did, but if i did, they weren't walking around advertising that they had....Whatever they did or didn't have. i wasn't a part of their world.
I have come across them all the time in LA. Esp in Weho & Hollywood. Not as many as in SF as course, but still a ton.
ThatBitch
04-07-2013, 08:26 PM
I'm doubting very seriously that signing up with a studio is going to increase anyone's actual earnings. What other girls say is true - if you are a good model / entertainer you will make money, otherwise not so much. You can sit at the top of the list all day and night and if you aren't much of an entertainer, the girls beside / below you who are better entertainers will still make more than you.
Considering the fact that the studio takes an additional 10% of your sales, you'd have to make an extra 40% in sales just to bring home the same as you currently do. Example: You currently sell $100 per session, putting $35 in your pocket. By signing up with the studio you'll have to sell $140 to get that same $35 profit. Or if you're currently selling $1000 to pocket $350, then your sales would have to increase to $1400 with the studio to maintain your $350 profit. That seems like a rather risky bet to me.
I think I'd stick to solo and work on upping my game rather than giving some other pimp a cut. I'm thinking it has more to do with the girls' actual sales / entertaining /marketing abilities than being affiliated with a studio.
Plus, think about the SM affiliate program - who gets the extra money if you send a customer to sign up from your own links? I'm betting the studio does, so you'd have no chance to pocket those extra earnings. I really can't see any benefit to joining a studio if you're already camming.
CurvyWinona
04-08-2013, 01:14 AM
^^ that does make sense. I didn't like the fact of having to lose additional 10 percent of my hard earned money. But I am so glad that OP made this thread for another great idea of keep out of freechat.
OP, if you are able to make your goal faster without doing freechat for most part now, why are you still considering to join KGB?
One thing I like about KGB is to be able to sell panties or whatever. I got so many requests for panties or whatever and I really dread on how to instruct them to contact me off site without getting caught. I usually request 10-20 GOLD upfront before giving an instruction, so I will know the custie isn't gonna waste my time dealing with off the site. I know that is very risky but few guys out of rest ended up being my regulars and they spend good. :)
Edited - They don't get their GOLD tip deducted from the panties orders. It's like a tip for my contact info. Pretty much like MFC.
Snowy0Star
04-08-2013, 01:25 AM
I have a question about the voyeur thing - what do u put in the topic? Something like "Voyeur Room if u like what u c and want to play take me pvt" or something? Ive been toying with the idea of playing video games while i wait for pvt and just ignoring them until someone does.
kittykrane
04-08-2013, 07:40 AM
Remember this too ladies, if you do a basic GS, say 5 gold for 15 min, just nude, chatting, and rubbing yourself....you can always get the guys to tip more during the show if they want anal or whatever...I did that once..they didn't hit the full show goal so I said "ok, if you guys want to see this, come up with X amount btw you all and I'll do it"..Sure enough they did.
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kittykrane
04-08-2013, 07:41 AM
Remember this too ladies, if you do a basic GS, say 5 gold for 15 min, just nude, chatting, and rubbing yourself....you can always get the guys to tip more during the show if they want anal or whatever...I did that once..they didn't hit the full show goal so during the actual gold show someone asked if I was going to do it and I said "NO, the goal was not met, but if you want it that bad, tip X amount btw you all and I'll do it"..Sure enough they did.
Glamourmilf
04-08-2013, 07:51 AM
^^Right Kitty! I've noticed that also. My gs topic says one thing, and they want another in the show,so I get them to tip more.
Sure does beat waiting for them to go prvt.
Guys always want to push the limit anyway. Just like irl.
**Just side bar~ We've all seen the ladies who play with their private parts close up in free chat, (including insertion), and even though these freeloaders are getting it all for free, guys will type~"let me see Your face!" cracks me up! That's why i am ALWAYS in control of my chat room, and in my gs.
Marina Starr
04-08-2013, 09:31 AM
Anyone get anxiety from doing GS? I get so nervous when I'm about to do one. I don't think I want to put myself through that!
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seller317
04-08-2013, 09:48 AM
Omg yes its like ok breathe here we go! Yay! They are nice tho being able to do whatever you want : )
Via Flaminia
04-08-2013, 10:55 AM
^^Right Kitty! I've noticed that also. My gs topic says one thing, and they want another in the show,so I get them to tip more.
Sure does beat waiting for them to go prvt.
Guys always want to push the limit anyway. Just like irl.
**Just side bar~ We've all seen the ladies who play with their private parts close up in free chat, (including insertion), and even though these freeloaders are getting it all for free, guys will type~"let me see Your face!" cracks me up! That's why i am ALWAYS in control of my chat room, and in my gs.
What I love especially is the idea of having little/no countdown. I might try this- just starting my show and if they want to say the ridiculous things they always say, they can pay, enter the Gold Show, then say it. :D
Sounds fair to me. hahaha
Rosemary Rabbit
04-08-2013, 11:42 AM
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kittykrane
04-08-2013, 12:24 PM
REPORTING On MY EXPERIENCE..
Meh...nothing to scream about..The first time I set it up, 5 min timer for a 60 gold show, I get a tV offer that's better, so I do that instead..
2 attempt for a 6 min show...I think I got about 20 gold, but I didn't use toys ,just fingers
3 attempt for 5 min show, I got 25 gold, enough to use toy in pussy only.
But it beat sitting in free chatting hearing "show tits, do this, do that"...
Never hit full goal once, lots of freeloaders, as usual and there were enough guys coming in an out.
But still I had a good 3 hour block, better than expected until apparently the EXCLUSIVE chat option wasn't working for the guys....GRRRRRRR
GlamourRouge
04-08-2013, 01:10 PM
Wat? Where did you find that out? Is this one of those 'it went right over my head' things?
I highly doubt that is true. I say this because I saw one KGB girl on twitter say she usually makes 2-3k/week, but she also works a ton. Like 8 hours a day several times a week.
KGB girls are like any other girl. The difference is, they work a ton of hours and are young, conventionally attractive, and know how to work a room. There's a couple of them in the Verified Group, and they'll tell you that they don't really do anything special.
temptingmodel
04-08-2013, 01:35 PM
Trust no one when it comes to signing up for studios. I have seen false income posted (not here) that was a old models income who does not currently cam. When I asked the the particular studio about it he told me that is what he uses to attract models. Since we are cool he didnt mind telling me.
Be weary when switching over and if you find yourself lower income and placement , it is bc a studio straight up lied to you. People will step on your head to move up and not give a fuck about the model.
GlamourRouge
04-08-2013, 01:49 PM
Trust no one when it comes to signing up for studios. I have seen false income posted (not here) that was a old models income who does not currently cam. When I asked the the particular studio about it he told me that is what he uses to attract models. Since we are cool he didnt mind telling me.
Be weary when switching over and if you find yourself lower income and placement , it is bc a studio straight up lied to you. People will step on your head to move up and not give a fuck about the model.
Yes, they do lie to get you to sign up with their studio. I guess its a common studio sign-up tactic. Girls have talked about this too in Verified.
Missbeth
04-09-2013, 07:21 AM
I highly doubt that is true. I say this because I saw one KGB girl on twitter say she usually makes 2-3k/week, but she also works a ton. Like 8 hours a day several times a week.
KGB girls are like any other girl. The difference is, they work a ton of hours and are young, conventionally attractive, and know how to work a room. There's a couple of them in the Verified Group, and they'll tell you that they don't really do anything special.
This is probably for a top model KGB girl too...no? I too extremely doubt that these girls routinely if ever make $5k/week.. At thier percentage they would have to be driving in $20k worth of business for SM.
One of the top one I've seen more than not makes a $400 goal but at 25% thhats only $100! She has long countdowns too and restarts randomly. That's alot of $400 dollar shows a week if she was going to make the elusive $5k/ week...and it takes her about 30-45 mins to get a show sometimes the way she runs her room which isn't bad because she can work it, but she has more of a MFC-esque feel to her room.
Another top one I've seen usually gets $200 goals so let's say $250 after the show starts....that's only $60 her cut.
ThatBitch
04-09-2013, 10:56 AM
This thread is negative? Just seemed like people not agreeing with a specific tactic is all. I actually think the gold show idea is good - THAT is something worth trying. Keep making guys do the gold show thing and stay out of free chat, YAY. But you don't have to sign up for a studio and give away more of your money to do that :)
Blovely
04-09-2013, 10:59 AM
This thread is being removed??? But there's alot of good tips in here.
Jaana
04-09-2013, 11:27 AM
What's negative about this thread? People are just being honest.
Marina Starr
04-09-2013, 11:38 AM
Who changed the title of this thread? Was it Glamourmilf or the mods? I just got done with camming for the day and saw this. I haven't seen any negativity except for valid/constructive opinions in which I love and welcome as long as it's not hurtful. It's so sad!
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kortneykay
04-09-2013, 11:51 AM
Yeah... it had to be edited by GM as most mods wouldn't say "You're own your own!" lol...anyway, before it gets removed or locked... I did the "voyeur" shows on Imlive today and of course in FREE chat and did it for a whole hour, just cleaned my house and there were 35-50+ guys in there at any given time when I glanced up now and then and not one tip or one private. I did get privates earlier but I just wanted to test it out for myself until I can gain followers and get GS possibly enabled on SM. Now, it was just an hour but I'm like damn, yawl can stare but you can't tip or take a bitch private? I was sweating too! And they were chatting up having a good ole' ball while I'm dancing sexy IN MY DRAWLS which I NEVER do in FREE chat. Oh well, at least my place got cleaned and I know that when I just want to leave the cam on for "free chat hours" I can do that. I can't wait to get back on SM, just waiting for a few more approvals and I'm home free.
loveshooks
04-09-2013, 11:52 AM
wasn't us, OP's can change their own thread titles. I'm just as surprised but even if the title is changed the rest of the thread still exists
Blovely
04-09-2013, 12:25 PM
Yeah... it had to be edited by GM as most mods wouldn't say "You're own your own!" lol...anyway, before it gets removed or locked... I did the "voyeur" shows on Imlive today and of course in FREE chat and did it for a whole hour, just cleaned my house and there were 35-50+ guys in there at any given time when I glanced up now and then and not one tip or one private. I did get privates earlier but I just wanted to test it out for myself until I can gain followers and get GS possibly enabled on SM. Now, it was just an hour but I'm like damn, yawl can stare but you can't tip or take a bitch private? I was sweating too! And they were chatting up having a good ole' ball while I'm dancing sexy IN MY DRAWLS which I NEVER do in FREE chat. Oh well, at least my place got cleaned and I know that when I just want to leave the cam on for "free chat hours" I can do that. I can't wait to get back on SM, just waiting for a few more approvals and I'm home free.
It was decent for me Friday night to Saturday morning and Saturday into Sunday but it was slow Sunday night. Only made $25 and I kept it on for hours. It's def not and hasn't been consistent. I think you should test it out for more than a day though. I think I'm going to test it out for a week. If it doesn't work then I'm just going to go back to working my scheduled shifts or at least do Voyeur around my shifts. I'm started to even think about just getting a Voyeur account like BellaBellini suggested. I was also thinking about doing voyeur/ignore clips on c4s and linking it to my CamModel page. I don't really know yet still working out the kinks.
justanothercamgirl
04-09-2013, 01:24 PM
Thread is going south~ i was just trying to help.
Even threads that go south are helpful!
If people are talking then a thread was useful in some way. ;)
Marina Starr
04-09-2013, 02:03 PM
Regardless of what could happen to this thread, I am thankful to have contributed and got some wonderful informations out of it. Negativity isn't always a bad thing, it's all in how you choose to let it affect you. If we could only be okay with the positive, we're not gonna grow very much. Everyone here has something to teach and something to learn!
I just noticed Glamourmilf deleted her initial post so now I sound crazy, lol!
MissSassyPickles
04-09-2013, 02:06 PM
I think that GlamourMilf felt that discussion and constructive criticism was negative, and felt defensive because of it. I've done the same thing bc I am totally an oversensitive person, so I can see where she was coming from.
I hope you continue to post your ideas GM because I love having you here on the board :)
justanothercamgirl
04-09-2013, 02:20 PM
I hope you continue to post your ideas GM because I love having you here on the board :)
I agree. :)
Via Flaminia
04-09-2013, 02:59 PM
I hope you continue to post your ideas GM because I love having you here on the board :)
Me too. It takes courage to post new ideas when you know agreement across the board is impossible.
GM, you helped me with this thread, so thank you. :)
shysara79
04-09-2013, 03:09 PM
I loved reading this thread too. We can't all always agree can we? That's life. Thanks Glamour!
temptingmodel
04-09-2013, 03:16 PM
constructive criticism.... That is how I saw it.
GlamourRouge
04-09-2013, 03:30 PM
wasn't us, OP's can change their own thread titles. I'm just as surprised but even if the title is changed the rest of the thread still exists
Whoa I didn't know that! Is that new? I've tried to edit my titles before and it never worked, so a MOD had to do it.
And I don't really think this thread is negative at all. Especially the parts backed up by evidence.
ThatBitch
04-09-2013, 08:51 PM
OPs have always been able to edit their own thread titles on this site, since the very beginning.
GlamourRouge
04-09-2013, 09:20 PM
OPs have always been able to edit their own thread titles on this site, since the very beginning.
I really doubt that. Here's an entry I wrote back in the day where I edited the title, but it only changed at top of the thread, and not the actual name of the thread: I changed it to "Porn Agencies" but the title did not change- only at the top. If you look, it shows both the old title (at the top) and the new title as the title of the thread.
It must have been a glitch during the upgrades.
temptingmodel
04-09-2013, 09:27 PM
BB it has been that way forever, well a year at least ... remember MY INCIDENT and I changed the title ;)
mine was after I was released form timeout from SW, remember a few of us where banned for weeksso it was in Jan/ feb and yes after upgrades.
shysara79
04-10-2013, 04:55 AM
BB it has been that way forever, well a year at least ... remember MY INCIDENT and I changed the title ;)
mine was after I was released form timeout from SW, remember a few of us where banned for weeksso it was in Jan/ feb and yes after upgrades.
Oh dear.. Banned from SW.. I would DIE! lol
justanothercamgirl
04-10-2013, 05:43 AM
I really doubt that. Here's an entry I wrote back in the day where I edited the title, but it only changed at top of the thread, and not the actual name of the thread: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?166343-LA-Direct-Models-or-101-Modeling-or-OC-Modeling I changed it to "Porn Agencies" but the title did not change- only at the top. If you look, it shows both the old title (at the top) and the new title as the title of the thread.
It must have been a glitch during the upgrades.
Yep, there was a period where I remember not being able to change the title of my post too! I had no idea that you could change post titles now.
Snowy0Star
04-10-2013, 07:42 AM
Oh dear.. Banned from SW.. I would DIE! lol
lol depending on what u did from what ive heard there are 3 days bans week bans and perma bans
laurielegs
04-10-2013, 03:05 PM
Remember this too ladies, if you do a basic GS, say 5 gold for 15 min, just nude, chatting, and rubbing yourself....you can always get the guys to tip more during the show if they want anal or whatever...I did that once..they didn't hit the full show goal so I said "ok, if you guys want to see this, come up with X amount btw you all and I'll do it"..Sure enough they did.
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Just wanted to give you a heads-up that a host was suspended for asking for more gold during a gold show. I tried to find the post where she quoted how they responded but it was something to the effect of "do not ask for more gold during a gold show as they have already paid for admission".
Apparently it's ok to ask during the countdown or free chat. It sucks because I love the idea of just charging a low price for admission and charging extra for more.
temptingmodel
04-10-2013, 03:13 PM
lol actually you make more money lol
Oh dear.. Banned from SW.. I would DIE! lol
shysara79
04-10-2013, 03:14 PM
What could get u banned on here? Just curious
Marina Starr
04-10-2013, 03:16 PM
I think that's just so silly of SM to suspend her over that! I think it's her right to ask and it's up to the custies to oblige or not! SM is making more money either way!
Just wanted to give you a heads-up that a host was suspended for asking for more gold during a gold show. I tried to find the post where she quoted how they responded but it was something to the effect of "do not ask for more gold during a gold show as they have already paid for admission".
Apparently it's ok to ask during the countdown or free chat. It sucks because I love the idea of just charging a low price for admission and charging extra for more.
temptingmodel
04-10-2013, 03:54 PM
I believe in "eye for a eye" with no holds bars so that means I disrespected mods in my quest, never disrespect a mod. I was wrong and did apologize TO THE MOD but she couldnt lift it due to site changes at the time
What could get u banned on here? Just curious
shysara79
04-10-2013, 04:57 PM
Hmmmmmm interesting
sammii
04-10-2013, 05:15 PM
Aw, glam ... I thought this thread was helpful. In my personal opinion, the studio girls who do well, would do well regardless if they were in a studio or not.
Do I think you should join a studio? Well, it's up to you, but I don't think it's worth the risk ... there are KGB girls who are on the 2nd page and some even further than that. The KGB girls with top placement are great models ... I believe they were given a head start on placement, but it's up to them to keep their placement. The reason I think this is because I saw a girl who said she joined a week earlier and she was on the second row of the first page. :/
BrightAndClaire
04-11-2013, 07:29 PM
I just wanted to say that the GS idea in this thread really got me back in the saddle after being out sick from SM for two weeks. I'm incredibly grateful for that.