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Melonie
04-24-2013, 11:41 AM
and today a few reports are starting to trickle out along the following lines ... from

(snip)"Reuters) - The name of one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was listed on the U.S. government's highly classified central database of people it views as potential terrorists. But the list is so vast that this did not mean authorities automatically kept close tabs on him, sources close to the bombing investigation said on Tuesday."(snip)

(snip)"The TIDE database is one of many federal security databases set up after the September 11, 2001, attacks. The database system has been criticized in the past for being too cumbersome, especially in light of an attempted attack on a plane in 2009. Intelligence and security agencies acknowledged in Congress that they had missed clues to the Detroit "underpants bomber" Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. Officials said after the incident that he had been listed in the TIDE database.

Republican Senator Susan Collins said there were problems in sharing information ahead of the Boston bombings, too.

"This is troubling to me that this many years after the attacks on our country in 2001 that we still seem to have stovepipes that prevent information from being shared effectively," she said. Collins was speaking after the FBI gave a closed-door briefing to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday, but she did not elaborate."(snip)

(snip)"Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said law enforcement should have kept a closer eye on Tsarnaev after the FBI spoke to him two years ago. The FBI should also have realized last week following the bombings that he was in databases, Graham told reporters.

"After the bomb went off, don't you think one of the first things the FBI would do is say, 'Have we interviewed anybody in the Boston area that may fit the profile of doing this?' How could his name not pop up, the older brother? And when you have the photo the whole world is looking at, how could we not match that photo with him already being in the system?" Graham said."(snip)


Thus, like the Benghazi attack, the same questions remain unanswered. Were gov't anti-terrorist agencies simply incompetent to the point of incredulity ? Or is there some sort of closed door policy in place that is effectively preventing gov't anti-terrorist agencies from taking pre-emptive action against Muslim 'suspects' ?

In point of fact, the arguable ONLY reason that the younger brother was found and arrested was because a civilian ducked out into his back yard to smoke a cigarette ( in defiance of the gov'ts 'shelter in place' order ), happened to notice blood stains and cuts on his boat cover while he was out there, took the personal initiative to get a ladder and investigate under the boat cover, and in turned handed over the badly injured younger brother to LE on a 'silver platter'.


On a different point, it would appear that the younger brother will indeed be headed for a highly publicized domestic court trial, followed by a lifetime of free meals, free medical care, and free cable TV !

FasaCorp
04-24-2013, 05:13 PM
a lifetime of free meals, free medical care, and free cable TV !

And he will get anally raped, physically assaulted, have zero privacy (unless it's the 24-hour, pitch black of solitary confinement), and the "free medical care" will be second-class at best.
Bottom line: there is a reason why prison is, on the whole, NOT a desirable place to be.

Kellydancer
04-24-2013, 08:37 PM
Then there is this: .

The home health-care aide supported her deadbeat husband, who stayed at home with the child.

Tsarnaev’s younger brother, bombing suspect Dzhokar, and their parents also received benefits when they were younger.

Nice, not only did they come here but they sponged off the system, both brothers and the parents. I love paying taxes so freeloading deadbeats can come here and get free welfare. Meanwhile I know Americans who have applied for assistance and yet got rejected. So in other words taxpayers supported these pieces of shit and they paid them back by killing three, including an 8 year old boy.

yoda57us
04-25-2013, 09:34 AM
In point of fact, the arguable ONLY reason that the younger brother was found and arrested was because a civilian ducked out into his back yard to smoke a cigarette ( in defiance of the gov'ts 'shelter in place' order ), happened to notice blood stains and cuts on his boat cover while he was out there, took the personal initiative to get a ladder and investigate under the boat cover, and in turned handed over the badly injured younger brother to LE on a 'silver platter'.


Actually the civilian went outside shortly after the shelter in place order had been lifted. Also, according to recent interviews with the boat owner he didn't see any blood on the outside of the boat, only the disrupted cover. He got the ladder out to fix the cover, saw the blood and a body inside the boat and, when he saw the body move, went in to call the cops. Now, in my book this guy is a still a hero but, given the condition of the younger brother, he probably wasn't going anywhere. He most likely would have bled to death in the boat and would have been discovered in the summer when the guy took the boat down to the Charles River. If he did manage to regain some strength and leave the scene it would have virtually impossible for him to avoid capture in his injured state. What does bug me about the events of last Friday is that the boat actually WAS in the 20 block search area and should have been checked during the initial search. There is some finger pointing going on among local law enforcement agencies right now over who searched that particular area and didn't check the boat. I'm willing to bet that they all know who "missed the boat" but no one is going to give it up. Police units from all over the commonwealth worked together on this and no one is going to throw anyone under the bus on this. Trying to find one guy hiding is not as easy as it sounds. This isn't an episode of Law and Order, it's real life. Cops are not infallible, they do the best they can.

I'm not really here to partake in the government bashing or hate mongering portion of this thread. I grew up a few blocks from where this all happened and it really hit home. Local news gets a lot more right than they do wrong because they have better local sources. By the way, the shot transit cop that was "treated and released" is STILL in the hospital. Has the Washington Post printed a correction on that bit of blatant miss-reporting yet?