View Full Version : What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
hippysoul
05-05-2013, 02:22 AM
@sophiesecrets
thanks girlie ... language barrier is definitely the issue here, well i really just hoped for some support but it seems like at last im getting some and getting over missunderstands.
i guess i should have said, it's MY OWN PERSONAL CHOICE - if I would be making a minimum or average salary ($300) monthly with camming, while working few hours a day i wouldn't be camming but doing something else. and what's more important, in the situation im in, it wouldn't solve my issues... let's just hope i'd do better than that :-\
@blovely
i saw a lot of posts in threads here that say "girls, please raise your prices, we shouldn't be showing them our goodies for pennies" and such... then why is what i said different than that? i'm not saying i should be making what Pamela Anderson in 90's would make, because I don't look like her anyway... i just say $500-$1000/month in those first months would be the minimum to make ME risk my future carrier or family.
@justanothercamgirl
don't apologize, honey .. i understand my words sounded different than i intended and i hope the search function and you girls will help me find out everything i need and make my decision quickly :) weighing the risk is exactly what i've been trying to do but it seems like it really is something i have to do on my own :)
@vivian
thanks for understanding me better, hope the missunderstand between us will vanish despite of my language barrier :))
i know we all have it hard at times, i wasn't trying to cause sympathy, i was just explaining why certain amount is necessary to me ...
and i truly hope i've got the potential to make it in this job and in life generally cause turning 24 got me a bit scared for my future :-[
@cyberstripper "We all live once. Don't let your fears keep you from trying new things."
thanks for the sentence that might be life-changing for some of us <3
TeenageAnnie
05-05-2013, 04:07 AM
we dont just cam because of the money. we cam because we like being our own boss, working whatever hours we choose, having time off when we like, working from home, some of us were sick of 'corperate retail jobs' and had no other way out. some of us go to university to study and camming is the only thing that fits around it, some of us were strippers before already and some of us really like camming. we didn't sign up becos of 'high amounts of money' the only people who did that are the ones on this forum posting stupid questions like this.
zivlet
05-05-2013, 05:17 AM
It's about more than money for me. It's about freedom, flexibility, and the fact that I want a hassle free life-I want to be able to work without having to get up when I'm still tired and fight through traffic jams in an uncomfy suit and be nice to white collar corporate idiots.
Melonie
05-05-2013, 05:36 AM
I want a hassle free life-I want to be able to work without having to get up when I'm still tired and fight through traffic jams in an uncomfy suit and be nice to white collar corporate idiots.
I agree with this position entirely. However, I also realize(d) that achieving a more or less hassle free life NOW also comes at the 'price' of having to deal with additional hassles later on !!!
In my own case, I was fortunate enough to have been able to earn and save enough money during my years of dancing and camming to now allow me to 'retire' altogether ... thus side-stepping the potential hassles now involved of needing to be hired for a straight job ever again. Other girls may not be so lucky.
I know this isn't directed at me and that OP is banned, but I think this discussion is interesting. As you yourself said standards are not universal. So I don't think my or anyone else saying that they need to make X amount of dollars to be satisfied with this or ANY job, equates to saying if you make less than that you are garbage. Now some people are condescending, but my point was that there was nothing condescending in the OP's original post. I think people were reading into it, or perhaps I'm less sensitive to the opinions of others. One's statement of personal goals should not be taken as a judgement.
We have entire threads devoted to making certain financial goals in a given pay period, so I think it's sort of silly to act as if money doesn't matter, which was my second point.
I saw no one in this post judged for what they do or don't make.
I know you directed this at JAC but I wanted to touch on this. This is not directed at you by the way. In threads that discuss income/worth certain posters seem to have a condescending, belittling, and elitist tone to their post. Its like if you aren't making say $50-$100 an hour, $400 for a 4 hour shift, $1000+ a week then you shouldn't be a camgirl.
If you make below the previous then those statements can come across as what you make is garbage, you aren't good enough, you aren't making enough, and you suck at your job. Now I don't exactly feel the things I just stated but the mentality of if you don't make x amount then you shouldn't be doing this does get annoying sometimes. I think people are kind of getting sick of hearing it over and over again. We get it you don't think x amount is worth it for you... great. But the thing is your worth and thought process isn't universal. Everyone isn't going to make the same amount of money. Income level isn't universal in camgirl-land.
Just because someone doesn't make the same amount as you doesn't mean you should be condescending towards what they make. If someone has clearly weighed the cons of camming and is happy with what they make then that's all that should matter. Just like models don't want to be judged on what they do in freechat some models don't want to be judged and ridiculed on what they make.
cyberstripper
05-05-2013, 11:11 PM
I agree with this position entirely. However, I also realize(d) that achieving a more or less hassle free life NOW also comes at the 'price' of having to deal with additional hassles later on !!!
In my own case, I was fortunate enough to have been able to earn and save enough money during my years of dancing and camming to now allow me to 'retire' altogether ... thus side-stepping the potential hassles now involved of needing to be hired for a straight job ever again. Other girls may not be so lucky.
Agreed 100% Mel. I have seen some people say that vets get burned out and end up hating the industry due to not making money, and resenting the business because they will have problems getting out into the real world. The reality is: At one point, we will all have to move on, it is not industry hating or resentment: it is a fact of camming. You have to keep this stark reality in mind. There are future consequences to being a cammer now......facts are webcamming can effect your future, for the positive or negative. Getting out of the business isn't as easy as getting into it (for most)....I am not trying to be negative, but this is the reality.
Keep this in mind. I am not trying to instill fear......knowing the above, has not kept me from being a camgirl. Whatever does not kill you, only makes you stronger. I feel camming has helped my future more then a "normal job" ever could. As a cammer, I have learned to be a successful business woman. Camming has us all truly set up to be a business owner in the future. When I went back to a normal job last year, I felt it was a dead end. The learning experience, I am greatful for, but I feel camming is a better for my future then working a dead end job with no room for advancement. Eventually, I would like to open a "normal" small business...working as a camgirl I have the knowledge to do this, knowledge I would have never gained working a 9-5er.
You should easily be able to make at least 500 a month if you work regular hours and several days a week. You have to put work into it though. It is still work.
Don't do it just for the money. If you only think it's worth it if you're making big bucks, then don't even start. Because you're going to have bad days and possibly weeks. You're just going to end up with guilt and regret if you start this sort of work with the mentality you have, and it will unfairly give this industry even more of a bad rep.
I genuinely love camming. I like the job itself, not just the money. Some days I dislike it greatly or get frustrated, but this jobs gives me the flexibility, freedom, etc that I need.. and that's worth any sort of "risk" for me.
CarmenF
05-06-2013, 06:18 AM
Why was the op banned?
twistedprincess
05-06-2013, 06:31 AM
Why was the op banned?
I just want to write a quick note to explain why this OP is banned. She is NOT banned because she asked basic questions. She is banned because she showed up in the multiple account detector and when I went through her post histories on the two accounts I saw conflicting information, and each thread she posted seemed designed to stir drama here. Going through post by post it was clear to me she was here to troll, probably knowing that acting like a new cammer and NOT using the search function is the easiest way to rile things up around here.
What I hate the most about people taking advantage of the fact that asking basic questions on sw is like dropping chum into the sea is that it makes life difficult for the real new members here, who may be shy, nervous, overwhelmed or simply unfamiliar with how forums operate. SW was my first forum, I didn't know ish about the search function when I first started reading here.
Since this now banned member started posting here on her two accounts I've seen really nasty post responses to legit new member questions, even in existing threads. I hope we don't allow the occasional troll to turn this community into a hostile place that alienates new members and that we try to remember that, despite the occasional troll, behind every sw handle there is a peer, a real person who comes to sw seeking not just information but human connection in what we all know can be a very isolating form of work.
This now banned member is one isolated incident, I hope we don't allow this person to turn sw into an ugly place where rudeness and cruelty is par for the course when interacting with new members. As a member here I don't wanna be a part of a place like that
^^^^word
That's why.
CarmenF
05-06-2013, 07:25 AM
Thank you twisted I missed that!
Blovely
05-06-2013, 08:49 AM
I know this isn't directed at me and that OP is banned, but I think this discussion is interesting. As you yourself said standards are not universal. So I don't think my or anyone else saying that they need to make X amount of dollars to be satisfied with this or ANY job, equates to saying if you make less than that you are garbage. Now some people are condescending, but my point was that there was nothing condescending in the OP's original post. I think people were reading into it, or perhaps I'm less sensitive to the opinions of others. One's statement of personal goals should not be taken as a judgement.
We have entire threads devoted to making certain financial goals in a given pay period, so I think it's sort of silly to act as if money doesn't matter, which was my second point.
I saw no one in this post judged for what they do or don't make.
I wasn't saying that Op or anyone else in this thread was being condescending or judgmental. I was more so talking about the topic in general and explaining why some people might feel a certain way about the topic.
islandsoutherngirl
05-06-2013, 12:17 PM
Well..... this is a difficult question for me. I think it depends a lot on where you're from and your background.
Lets take my scenario: I'm from a upper middle class family so earning $1500 week is average....nothing crazy, even not a lot of money. My boyfriend is from a blue collar working family so even earning $500 a week with less than 40 hours of work is a BIG deal.
I could go to school and get a professional job where Ill make 70k/year or I could cam...
If I cam I get flexibility, freedom, no school debt and I don't have to 'keep up with the joneses' by buying expensive work clothes, a expensive car etc....
So if I cam and make $70k/year and save $35k/year opposed to working as say a nurse and making $70k/year and saving $5k/year yes its more than worth it.
*money scenarios just for example
So for me yes camming is more than worth it as long as I meet my goals, have a ton of money in the bank and am able to keep growing the vanilla business I have which without camming I would have never been able to accomplish at 20...
Note i didn't say camming is worth it If I make x a Month/week... It's worth it if I meet my goals. You need to decide what your goals are and meet them.
this is a question that each and every one of us needs to answer for ourselves because no one's situation is the same.
Nicely put....I love how you broke this down.
cammodel
05-23-2013, 11:29 AM
Contras? No. If I'm making money and that pays off my loans or helps me buy a new mercedes the fuck the contras. Its my life and I'm happier with money....than without it. If I can make at least an extra grand to play on each month idc what people have to say or the ramifications.....which really aren't big to me. Its not like I care about impressing the conservative crowd anyway and they probably already wouldn't like me or talk about me because I still rock my tight ass and kick ass legs in a thong bikini at the country club. Fuck em.
cammodel
05-23-2013, 11:32 AM
Contras? No. If I'm making money and that pays off my loans or helps me buy a new mercedes the fuck the contras. Its my life and I'm happier with money....than without it. If I can make at least an extra grand to play on each month idc what people have to say or the ramifications.....which really aren't big to me. Its not like I care about impressing the conservative crowd anyway and they probably already wouldn't like me or talk about me because I still rock my tight ass and kick ass legs in a thong bikini at the country club. Fuck em. I do keep up with the joneses, camming gives me that extra edge to keep that image.
I signed up for the money. I like it because its easy fast money. I don't care about the customers though. They are just money to me. But I went to colege for money. I work my corporate job for the money. If I'm making money and its good money....ill like it. I don't see any reason in doing anything if its not about the money but I admit....I'm a tad materialistic. So if I am not making money then I'm miserable.
TheBrownFox
05-23-2013, 11:40 AM
What is 'contras'? I checked Google, and it says "a Nicaraguan counterrevolutionary guerrilla force from 1979 to 1990; it opposed a left-wing government, with support from the United States."
Uh...I know that ain't what the OP meant. :P
twistedprincess
05-23-2013, 12:12 PM
What is 'contras'? I checked Google, and it says "a Nicaraguan counterrevolutionary guerrilla force from 1979 to 1990; it opposed a left-wing government, with support from the United States."
Uh...I know that ain't what the OP meant. :P
Well the OP is banned... so we'll never know
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1630027/the-twilight-zone-intro-o.gif
CourtneyRaine
05-23-2013, 12:16 PM
What is 'contras'? I checked Google, and it says "a Nicaraguan counterrevolutionary guerrilla force from 1979 to 1990; it opposed a left-wing government, with support from the United States."
Uh...I know that ain't what the OP meant. :P
LMAO every time I read the title of this thread I think of this song from American Dad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QikSorPak6M
Snowy0Star
05-24-2013, 06:39 PM
why is cammodel banned ?
Incantatious
05-24-2013, 06:41 PM
Possibly something to do with this (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?181430-befriending-other-camgirls/page4)...
Snowy0Star
05-24-2013, 06:44 PM
Possibly something to do with this (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?181430-befriending-other-camgirls/page4)...
Yeah i went in her profile and looked at her last posts then came in here to delete that post - she was nice and helpful to me tho but yeah guess shes not a team player
AliceFun
05-24-2013, 07:07 PM
Wow! Just wow! Now i see the whole thing and why, did not read that thread till now... hmmmm
Possibly something to do with this (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?181430-befriending-other-camgirls/page4)...
Babybunny
05-24-2013, 07:43 PM
Wow! Just wow! Now i see the whole thing and why, did not read that thread till now... hmmmm
Be glad you didn't. The way I see it dealing with negativity online is a waste of time. I can get paid for that with the guys. I come here to get info and talk to like minded individuals. And some attention starved head case is better out on ignore.
Theres too many wonderful ladies on SW I'm growing fond of to read posts that are only meant to get a reaction.
sophiesecrets
05-25-2013, 07:46 PM
Hehe, I've been here like 4 or 5 months and I've seen a few of these "how much $ makes camming worth it" threads. i see what other ladies are talking about now. Truth is, this job is yours to make or break. Sky's the limit. 10k a week isn't very likely, but u can make 500 - 1000 a week just starting out... alot more if u put the time in. You could do Streamate alone, and do quite well, thats without putting any effort into getting your own traffic and exposure. A good friend of mine here makes 800 - 1k a week easy just off streamate. I started on tipping sites so my game is a little different, but it all boils down to the same thing. If you apply yourself and put the time in, you will make money =D
Good Luck and welcome to Stripper Web!!
twistedprincess
05-25-2013, 08:54 PM
Hehe, I've been here like 4 or 5 months and I've seen a few of these "how much $ makes camming worth it" threads. i see what other ladies are talking about now. Truth is, this job is yours to make or break. Sky's the limit. 10k a week isn't very likely, but u can make 500 - 1000 a week just starting out... alot more if u put the time in. You could do Streamate alone, and do quite well, thats without putting any effort into getting your own traffic and exposure. A good friend of mine here makes 800 - 1k a week easy just off streamate. I started on tipping sites so my game is a little different, but it all boils down to the same thing. If you apply yourself and put the time in, you will make money =D
Good Luck and welcome to Stripper Web!!
Psst: the OP is banned
Snowy0Star
05-26-2013, 04:09 AM
Psst: the OP is banned
for having a dick(i think) and obvi trolling everyone of the the threads had hashtag "newbiebaby" that smelled troll right there to me
Jaana
05-26-2013, 04:27 AM
I had a feeling it was a troll because they used the word "contra", in place of just saying..con, yet they had otherwise perfect English.
Contra was an awesome game for NES, though.
Snowy0Star
05-26-2013, 04:38 AM
I had a feeling it was a troll because they used the word "contra", in place of just saying..con, yet they had otherwise perfect English.
Contra was an awesome game for NES, though.
never heard of that one me and sis loved paperboy tho XD
sophiesecrets
05-26-2013, 12:24 PM
ya, i was sleepy last night... i realized after the fact and was embarrassed...lolol
SarahTime
05-26-2013, 12:32 PM
Who puts a hash tag thingy in a thread title anyway? And newbiebaby? lol....
Snowy0Star
05-26-2013, 01:03 PM
Who puts a hash tag thingy in a thread title anyway? And newbiebaby? lol....
a new breed of troll apparently XD