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melanielive
02-05-2014, 05:52 PM
That s crazy....
I hardly ever get customers there but still... looks like guys there can get their $$ back at any time for any reason.... not cool!
loveshooks
02-06-2014, 02:42 AM
did anyone who works on this site get any clarification on whether the plugin/skyprivate records the video stream from skype calls? I'd hate to think a bunch of chicas are giving away free content that skyprivate can then turn around and sell (along with 2257 docs). I've asked the site several times and they just blow me off.
euaici
03-10-2014, 08:38 AM
looking at the site and model agreement, there are two things I've seen:
- everywhere is skyprivate Europe - so that explains non-english speaking customers
- look at this: 6.5 Model expressly grants permission to SkyPrivate Europe to transfer personal data and Content to a destination outside Romania and the European Union as required in order for SkyPrivate Europe to fulfill its obligations and / or rights as provided for under this Clause 6.
Maybe the Irish company sold it?
Edited to add: yes, their address in the model agreement is in Romania: 17.2 Any notice to either party to this Agreement shall be given in writing to the following addresses:
To SkyPrivate Europe: Address: Nicolae Filipescu street, no. 39 - 41, district 2, Bucharest, Romania, E-mail: office @ skyprivate.com
18.1 This Agreement and all matters arising out of or relating to this Agreement shall be governed by the substantive laws of Romania, without regards to conflicts of laws principles thereof.
18.2 Any controversy, claim or dispute between the Parties arising out of or relating to this Agreement shall be subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the Romanian Civil Court, and each party hereby irrevocably consent to the jurisdiction and venue of such Court.
Now, I don't see anything wrong with a EE company doing business in this world, but:
- the company's representative on ths forum did not correct the assumption that the company is from Ireland.
-if anybody has any kinds of issues with the said EE company, going to court in an EE country is an experience I would only wish upon certain freeloaders we all know :P
bluexxxtasy
03-10-2014, 11:18 AM
double post..
bluexxxtasy
03-10-2014, 11:19 AM
Yeah make sure you check out that link and get verified ASAP, otherwise when a guy scams u and get a free show from you the site cannot take the credits away from him, they expect YOU, the model to ask the customer to pay u for a show he got for free....lol
I had a guy scamming me last night, got a free show, I sent evidence to support but it seems it wasn t enough, not only he did that, he tried to get a 2nd show from me...
yet it seems the site won t ban him, I can give u girls his username if u want.
Don t make the same mistake I did, get verified, otherwise any scammer there can get free shows and get away with it, enough said!
well i must be a bitch then lol... before i got verified i dont care who hit me up my cam did not go on until payment was confirmed.. my profiles have photos taken from my hd webcam and i already know the deal... fuck all that 20sec bb i wanna check skype quality, webcam quality, see what u look like bs.. they can all eat a monster dick. and ive said that to their begging asses.. after i got verified smh boy im a bigger dick..sorry you were treated like that...
i have only done 1 show with them back in sept i believe and it was for a short block of time my first show and that total amount isnt enough to make the payout.. since then ive got nothing other than alot of non english speaking people or people that just refuse to read... i have taken my id off so that should rectify my annoyances and time being wasted.. hell i even have a list of skyprivate time wasters
cherryblossomsinspring
03-13-2014, 01:30 PM
The acct I originally created before I started looking at all of the random "when they feel like it" changes I closed months ago. Changed my name , email address and took all pictures down. It's just not worth the hassle.
Neonsugar
03-26-2014, 10:04 PM
Sorry if this has been covered in some other section I couldn't find it. Is there a way to advertise skype shows? Any sites to get clientele? How do you ladies get Skype shows? Thanks so much!
minniesoporno
03-26-2014, 10:28 PM
Most use social media, and being listed on cam model listing sites, and then also having a website or blog to draw in clients. Then you need a payment method once you get possible bookings.
TheBrownFox
03-26-2014, 10:36 PM
If you're interested in doing Skype shows, you will definitely wanna look into joining CamModelDirectory (independent cam girl listing site). There's a thread on here all about it: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?187026-The-CamModel-Directory-Thread
There's also that site XXX Cam Babes:
http://www.xxxcambabes.com/
A lot of models on MyFreeCams also offer Skype shows for MFC tokens.
Just remember to never accept PayPal for Skype...no matter what.
Missymissdemeanour
03-27-2014, 05:02 AM
You can also offer skype show son AW http://www.adultwork.com/Home.asp Again never accept/offer paypal
KarinaGiselle
03-27-2014, 06:47 AM
What other payment methods can be used if PayPal is not an option, then?
Procrasturbator
03-27-2014, 07:05 AM
I'm partial to Payoneer private loads for true indie clients--you technically get 100% if you make them pay the 3.75% load fee but after all the other fees it's probably something like 80-90% at most. CamModelDirectory has its own payment processor for clients that find you through there and pays 75%. Some people use Moneypak/Green Dot cards, there's some valuable info on that floating around here. Giftrocket and Amazon gift cards are also popular but I'd exercise caution and not use those for first time clients due to the potential for scammers.
TheBrownFox
03-27-2014, 07:09 AM
What other payment methods can be used if PayPal is not an option, then?
There's Payoneer...there's GiftRocket. But with both of those methods it takes a few days for the funds to actually be there in your hands. Giving these guys a Skype show while their payments are still 'pending' is a very bad idea. And most guys paying for Skype shows want to do it right now, and don't want to have to wait a few days.
So in that case I highly recommend you sign up as a model on CamModelDirectory. The guy sends payment to CMD, you get an e-mail notification that he's paid, and then you can do the Skype show right away.
There are TONS of threads about this stuff, including The CamModelDirectory Thread. A lot of your questions are already answered in other threads. Read up, ladies! :)https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?187026-The-CamModel-Directory-Thread
Neonsugar
03-27-2014, 10:24 AM
Why is PayPal not a good idea?
Procrasturbator
03-27-2014, 10:32 AM
Just a PSA, all you have to do to get answers to almost any question is go to Google and put in site:stripperweb.com whatever you're searching for. For instance if you search for site:stripperweb.com paypal (https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Astripperweb.com+paypal) it'll provide you with all the information you need, usually in the first link. :)
EvelynHeartsYou
03-27-2014, 10:48 AM
Why is PayPal not a good idea?
To answer your question directly, Paypal does not allow adult transactions. If they find out that you used Paypal for adult purposes (all the guy has to do is CLAIM you did a show, or cry fraud, and they will side with him), then Paypal will ban or limit your account and take your funds.
Here's an example that happened recently: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?190054-Did-someone-report-me-to-paypal
Do a search on Stripperweb for "paypal" and you'll find several other threads like it.
takiaya
06-24-2014, 09:59 PM
*bump* curious if anyone still uses this?
TeenageAnnie
06-25-2014, 06:12 AM
ModelCentro seem to have made some deal with the owner of this site as they are now using it on their own site.
smaddy
06-25-2014, 06:27 AM
Skyprivate gets loads more traffic than CMD. I haven't tried Skyprivate yet but I am currently on CMD and have had $1000 weeks there. I can only imagine what's possible on skyprivate. I'm hesitant to sign up though because I have suspicions that their plugin is against skypes TOS.
kortneykay
06-25-2014, 06:31 AM
CMD pays you faster. I just signed up for skyprivate and they are talking like 3-4 weeks just to get paid? How does that make sense? Also, more traffic doesn't mean more conversions.
melanielive
06-25-2014, 01:44 PM
I should get my 2nd payout in like 2 weeks or so...
I will let u girls know how that goes..lol
It took me forever and a day again to reach 100.00 cause I avoided doing shows there for a long time... but then I had more guys asking for shows on sky private than cmd so I decided to take the risk and see If I can get paid again...
Let s keep fingers crossed!
Luna66
06-25-2014, 06:12 PM
did anyone who works on this site get any clarification on whether the plugin/skyprivate records the video stream from skype calls? I'd hate to think a bunch of chicas are giving away free content that skyprivate can then turn around and sell (along with 2257 docs). I've asked the site several times and they just blow me off.
This is what worries me. I've signed up and i'm all good to go, but i'm worried about doing shows on there. Specifically because of this from the "Model Agreement Contract":
"6.1 Model authorizes SkyPrivate Europe to collect and process its personal data in the context of the performance of this Agreement, i.e. in particular with regards to:
(i) Process the payments;
(ii) Manage and enable the operation of the Service;
(iii) Conduct promotion of the Service;
(iv) Defend itself.
6.2 Data that will be collected through the access and use of the Service are in particular: timestamp, IP address, connection logs, chat logs, screen logs, stream logs.
6.3 Model authorizes SkyPrivate Europe to store the Content, in whole or in part, for use in advertising or for commercial purposes as well as to manage the Service."
So, they collect "screen logs, chat logs and stream logs" to use for "advertising and commercial purposes"? I mean Streamate do the same thing, but they are very well established and trustworthy. How do I know SkyPrivate are?!
TeenageAnnie
06-26-2014, 04:47 AM
woah horsey woah.
CHAT LOGS SCREEN LOGS AND STREAM LOGS. oh my
Fuckkkkkkk that shit. fuck it hard in the arse till it prolapses.
Btrfly_Kisses
06-26-2014, 07:56 AM
woah horsey woah.
CHAT LOGS SCREEN LOGS AND STREAM LOGS. oh my
Fuckkkkkkk that shit. fuck it hard in the arse till it prolapses.
Ohhh you just made me giggle!! That's exactly what I was going to say!
Rastafari
07-01-2014, 09:48 AM
Hmmm. I signed up with these guys a couple days ago, got verified, and got my first pay-per-minute show yesterday. Today I woke up to about 8 contact requests on Skype. I haven't actually made myself visible to talk to them yet though, wanted to see what you guys had to say about this place first. I had one red flag last night, a guy asking me if I discounted longer shows. I said ok we can do that with the direct payment option (probably won't be offering it anymore) and he said he put the money in. Nothing showed up, still nothing today, while with my ppm show the funds showed up right away. Of course I didn't do the show and told him when the money comes he can have his show. Now I feel like I shouldn't do it at all, I really liked the pay-per-minute app and how it showed the time and money spent in big numbers so you knew what was going on. I really don't think this site is too shady, but I'm also pretty new to camming. It is possible that they have quality traffic coming through, my rate is $5/min for toy shows. Right now they offer Payoneer and Paxum, I'll have to let you guys know how Paxum treats me because Payoneer doesn't care about the US anymore. As for them recording the shows.. Pretty much everyone does, like SM mentioned earlier in the post. The only thing that freaks me out is if they're selling it without giving me a cut.
loveshooks
07-01-2014, 11:12 PM
As for them recording the shows.. Pretty much everyone does, like SM mentioned earlier in the post. The only thing that freaks me out is if they're selling it without giving me a cut.
just want to explain where I and a few other chicas are coming from in our concerns re: this site.
this site claims to be an option for indy chicas, yet indy is not typically characterized by one-sided model terms and lack of of clarity and transparency. To illustrate with some points made earlier in the thread, the model contract contains some key issues that are NOT standard in indy:
1) ownership of cam name
in joining this site you grant the site ownership of your cam name. not great if you own a domain in your cam name (or ever intend to have one). NO other indy site I'm aware of contains such a clause.
2) recording shows
if this site records shows, this is not something every other indy site does. In fact, to the best of my knowledge no other indy site does this.
3) the site will not explain whether or not the plugin records shows (emphasis mine because it's so baffling to me that this site has chosen to behave in such a manner )
no other indy site I've ever been exposed to demonstrates this lack of transparency and respect for cam chicas in refusing to answer simple questions about features of the site. I'm actually laughing right now- this site will not give an answer as to whether chicas who join are giving the site free content to sell elsewhere. if the plugin doesn't record shows then great, if it does, own it for fucks sake and let chicas make an educated decision regarding whether to join.
it might appear like I'm 'knocking the competition' with my posts in this thread but as the date stamps demonstrate I've been a huge critic of this site long before I created my own. In terms of choice there are good options out there for indy chicas, respectfully I'd suggest this site isn't one of em.
Rastafari
07-02-2014, 06:23 AM
Thank you for your response loveshooks. I didn't really consider this an indy site to begin with since they take a cut of the profit on top of what Paxum takes for payment processing. But if they're trying to call themselves an indy site it does spike concerns. I'm going to be really cautious proceeding forward. I think I'm going to send them an email myself and ask if they sell the recordings. I think most places record so they can make sure the models aren't doing anything illegal, but you never know in such a shady industry. It's best to be sure. I didn't end up logging onto it yesterday because of this. I'm really searching for a good cam home that doesn't involve free chat in the form of video. Sick of smiling for those assholes already. SMH. I'll let you guys know if Skyprivate answers my email
Rastafari
07-02-2014, 09:42 AM
Got the quickest response ever from support when asking if they sell recorded streams and content:
Hi Roxy,
We've added this in case of future business proposals. Of course at the moment we do not do such a thing. We're just a payment system for Skype Audio/Video calls, and that's it. The logs, IPs and timestamps are for security reasons only.
The content you add (such as profile pictures) are only in intent of advertising.
If you have further questions, I'm here to help.
Have a great day!
Andy
Best regards,
Andy White
SkyPrivate Team
Skype ID to Skype ID money transfer & Pay per minute for Skype.
Contact: Skype ID: skyprivatesupport |
[email protected] | skyprivate.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So seems legit? I emailed him again asking where my profile pics are being advertised if not exclusively on skyprivate.com
They also have a thing called modelcentro.com that you can sign up for to host your camsite which states in their contract that your cam name is yours and you own all your content and you can set up your own domain not under Modelcentro. I'm pretty sure the people from Skyprivate made this one so I think when it comes to their Model Agreement Contract on the Skyprivate site where they say they own your name they just haven't taken the time to update it yet.
sexysusie
07-02-2014, 12:41 PM
i also have MAJOR concerns as of yesterday!
I received an email from them with my REAL name, asking me to follow them on twitter. i don't know about you but I'm NOT comfortable with that. Yes they need your real info for payments and for verification, but it should NEVER be used, nor for any purpose. I emailed them a complaint and got very short shrift in return. I've removed my account.
loveshooks
07-02-2014, 07:39 PM
hey, thanks for taking the time to post their reply, this is literally the first response to that question I've seen
Hi Roxy,
We've added this in case of future business proposals. Of course at the moment we do not do such a thing. We're just a payment system for Skype Audio/Video calls, and that's it. The logs, IPs and timestamps are for security reasons only.
The content you add (such as profile pictures) are only in intent of advertising.
so basically they don't have a current arrangement to sell content, but in the future if such an opportunity comes along the contract gives them the right to sell shows for their own benefit without giving chicas their cut.
lol at 'of course we don't have such a system, at the moment'. at least now chicas have the information required to make an informed decision for themselves.
They also have a thing called modelcentro.com that you can sign up for to host your camsite which states in their contract that your cam name is yours and you own all your content and you can set up your own domain not under Modelcentro. I'm pretty sure the people from Skyprivate made this one so I think when it comes to their Model Agreement Contract on the Skyprivate site where they say they own your name they just haven't taken the time to update it yet.
just wanted to clarify this, skyprivate is not modelcentro, these are two different companies. what skyprivate appears to have is an arrangement with modelcentro for chicas signed up with the modelcentro service to use the skyprivate plugin. the contract term regarding ownership of model name is a skyprivate clause that pre-existed the relationship with modelcentro. I would caution any chica using skyprivate to not use her own cam name but to make up a different name unrelated to any other site (particularly one's own) or service.
thanks again for posting their reply to you. I'm still pretty disgusted by how this site handles legitimate questions about its service but chicas like you who take the time to share replies you receive privately do shed some much needed light. gracias
Rastafari
07-07-2014, 01:33 PM
Hmmm you're right I was wondering what "at the moment" meant! Here's another email from the same guy, I asked where they advertise:
At the moment, the only way to advertise on other websites is through banners, but we don't use profile pics in that case, the only banners that have profile pictures are the ones you generate from your promote section in your account. You can create your own banner from there and of course, you will have your profile picture on the banner, this is the only way your profile picture can go out of the public profile section.
Another way we promote the models are through newsletters "The top model of the week" and on twitter and facebook with the same campaign name. But before we tweet / post / send the NewsLetters we let the model know about this, and with her agrement we will continue tweeting / posting / sending the e-mails.
Is it more clearer now? :)
Hope I've answered to your question/s
Have an awesome day!
Andy
Best regards,
Andy White
SkyPrivate Team
Snowy0Star
07-07-2014, 02:38 PM
. I didn't really consider this an indy site to begin with since they take a cut of the profit on top of what Paxum takes for payment processing.
Not trying to pick on u and be a bitch but knowing because ur new since u mentioned it - how else do u think both parties are going to get paid? Sky Private is (an albeit shitty) service and so is Paxum. Sky Private is providing u a platform to conduct business and Paxum is providing u a way to get ur money from said business .
By this logic no indie payment processor is considered indie by u because even getting paid thru Cam Model directory and Payoneer is shady to u because of the 25% CMD takes and having to pay for the processing fees.
This is what is means to be self employed tho everything has a cost for getting things done no matter what.
Rastafari
07-09-2014, 11:27 AM
No, thank you Snowy0Star, I really do need the advice that's why I'm here. I decided to put on my big girl thong yesterday and finally gave SM a shot and I killed it for letting my new girl status pass me by. So I'm officially deleting my account with these guys and everyone else I gave a chance because it's literally a waste of my time now. Really glad you ladies are here to share your insights and opinions, I don't know anyone else that's in the industry. I am like breathing a sigh of relief right now :)
NatalieCentro
07-25-2014, 09:37 AM
just wanted to clarify this, skyprivate is not modelcentro, these are two different companies. what skyprivate appears to have is an arrangement with modelcentro for chicas signed up with the modelcentro service to use the skyprivate plugin. the contract term regarding ownership of model name is a skyprivate clause that pre-existed the relationship with modelcentro. I would caution any chica using skyprivate to not use her own cam name but to make up a different name unrelated to any other site (particularly one's own) or service.
Thanks loveshooks, you are absoulutely right, ModelCentro is not a part of SkyPrivate - it's a whole different company.
hyori
10-29-2014, 03:53 PM
OK so I made a lot of money with SkyPrivate and they take 14 days to payout. However, even though I have thousands pending I was only paid 1/10th of it today. I'm freaking out. I've contacted them and now I'm waiting for their response. Anyone else here use SkyPrivate and know how payment works there? I'm thinking they payout 14 days after every session...eg. if I make $100 on the first, then I am paid on the 14th. If I make $150 on the second, then I get the money on the 15th. Is this how it works with them?
ashley.miller
10-29-2014, 04:05 PM
OK so I made a lot of money with SkyPrivate and they take 14 days to payout. However, even though I have thousands pending I was only paid 1/10th of it today. I'm freaking out. I've contacted them and now I'm waiting for their response. Anyone else here use SkyPrivate and know how payment works there? I'm thinking they payout 14 days after every session...eg. if I make $100 on the first, then I am paid on the 14th. If I make $150 on the second, then I get the money on the 15th. Is this how it works with them?
Hi Hyori,
that is exactly how it works.
as I just checked, you just got paid your first request on the day 13. the next payout will come next days. after 14 days top.
ashley.miller
10-29-2014, 04:08 PM
OK so I made a lot of money with SkyPrivate and they take 14 days to payout. However, even though I have thousands pending I was only paid 1/10th of it today. I'm freaking out. I've contacted them and now I'm waiting for their response. Anyone else here use SkyPrivate and know how payment works there? I'm thinking they payout 14 days after every session...eg. if I make $100 on the first, then I am paid on the 14th. If I make $150 on the second, then I get the money on the 15th. Is this how it works with them?
Hi Hyori,
that is exactly how it works.
as I just checked, you just got paid your first request on the day 13. the next payout will come next days. after 14 days top.
Please confirm to the other girls that you received the first payout. Or wait until the 2nd one is paid and so on, and please confirm here. Thanks.
hyori
10-29-2014, 05:25 PM
Great thank you for the prompt reply! The service works great thank you so much.
StacySins
11-25-2014, 04:22 AM
How does this work? It sounds like a great service!
Girls, how do you all find it?
ashley.miller
11-25-2014, 05:45 AM
How does this work? It sounds like a great service!
Girls, how do you all find it?
Stacy, you can see a video demo here http://www.skyprivate.com/how-it-works#install_use_plugin
but basically it works like this:
you, models signup with your Skype ID > set a price per minute & public profile > download our Windows plugin and run it next to skype.
the customers find you > signup free with their Skype ID > add funds in skyprivate.com > call you on skype and pay per minute for that call. in the end we payout to models using Paxum/Payoneer and soon adding other methods.
CummingCouple
12-02-2014, 09:43 PM
So, Im not sure if you knew, but in the video upload section there's a spot for vine uploads... vine... the free app with all the freeloaders. It has been our experience that nothing good comes from vine. That is in fact the first place I caught my freewanking cousin looking for me with no intention of paying, gross. So, has the 6 second video thing been helpful to any of your hosts? Because we had a really lame experience with it, since it's riddled with freebies.
sexysusie
12-05-2014, 02:45 AM
What is the best, cheapest, fastest way to get paid? I can't use payoneer with them as they don't do the global transfer :(
beauvoir
12-05-2014, 03:52 AM
Is this site worth joining?
sexysusie
12-05-2014, 04:31 AM
It wasn't but more UK girls r signing up now and pushing up the average rates yay :D
ashley.miller
12-05-2014, 05:36 AM
So, Im not sure if you knew, but in the video upload section there's a spot for vine uploads... vine... the free app with all the freeloaders. It has been our experience that nothing good comes from vine. That is in fact the first place I caught my freewanking cousin looking for me with no intention of paying, gross. So, has the 6 second video thing been helpful to any of your hosts? Because we had a really lame experience with it, since it's riddled with freebies.
we use vine.co (and soon add instagram) not for nude/sex videos but to have a video preview and intro. a validation for the members that you are a real girl (you know...is easier to lie using pics then videos).
so, just add a vine video as a welcome message/intro.
What is the best, cheapest, fastest way to get paid? I can't use payoneer with them as they don't do the global transfer :(
like I just replied to your PM:
why don't you keep payoneer like you have it as "global transfers"? you will receive the funds from us to your bank via Payoneer.
you do NOT NEED to have the Payoneer CARD, just a Payoneer account, to receive funds from us
I guess we talk the same thing. lets make it clear: if you now receive funds from other companies to your payoneer and then receive the funds in your bank account then you need to do nothing. We will send funds to your payoneer ACCOUNT and then - like before - receive those funds in your bank.
P.S. in the near future (2015) we will add other debit cards/ewallets. what do you girls use beside Payoneer & Paxum? do you use Payza? Skrill?
ashley.miller
12-05-2014, 05:40 AM
It wasn't but more UK girls r signing up now and pushing up the average rates yay :D
It is just the beginning. we will focus more on UK in 2015 because we will close some partnerships with local adult businesses, and hopefully UK models will be able to receive payouts easier or faster.
sexysusie
12-05-2014, 05:40 AM
Ashley thanks for that. I was a bit confused about the transfer/ card issue as I haven't used payoneer in over 2 years.
fatoldbroad
12-07-2014, 04:58 AM
SP and Model Centro-I did sign up for SP and in one day (even though my profile is supposed to be viewable only to paying members) I got numerous requests for a quick peek and no bookings....lol.
Additionally I did not understand the Model Centro connection so I wrote and asked for clarification. If you connect MC to SP they take 50-90 percent of your join rate/rebill rate. I was stunned and said that after MC took their cut that left me with nothing.....and the guy tried to tell me that was industry standard. Absurd. So I also asked exactly how did they promote us?.....and He basically said by allowing us to show our website on SP. Yeah that is worth 50 percent.
I am going to keep an open mind but keep my eye on them.
LaylaLovely
12-07-2014, 02:19 PM
Okay I have tried skyping sp for help about my account.. Many times no response.. Then I even messaged/ emailed support no answer, then even DM sp support through SW still no answer...
ashley.miller
12-07-2014, 03:07 PM
LaylaLovely,
just wait a moment. I will reply to the DM. thank you