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Djoser
09-14-2013, 09:39 PM
^Not necessarily, couples can be really tough to make money at and the guys will be absolutely vicious to you

Yeah I can imagine. I have surfed the adult sites and run into the random popup webcams before (mostly from the Jasmine site and also Streammate I think), and I'm not sure which is more of a dick-shriveler, seeing some fat grandma right up close on my screen or seeing a guy all over the girl. The initial impulse after the revulsion is to express the automatic irritation at having that shit plastered all over your screen whether you want to see it or not. Not that I ever have actually expressed it by trying to post instead of closing the fucking popup window ASAMFP, but if the microphone was working they might have caught an earful lol.

One more reason to give up on randomly surfing entirely.

roast
09-14-2013, 10:05 PM
Yeah I can imagine. I have surfed the adult sites and run into the random popup webcams before (mostly from the Jasmine site and also Streammate I think), and I'm not sure which is more of a dick-shriveler, seeing some fat grandma right up close on my screen or seeing a guy all over the girl. The initial impulse after the revulsion is to express the automatic irritation at having that shit plastered all over your screen whether you want to see it or not. Not that I ever have actually expressed it by trying to post instead of closing the fucking popup window ASAMFP, but if the microphone was working they might have caught an earful lol.

One more reason to give up on randomly surfing entirely.


What she's saying is customers can be uniquely brutal to male performers who do couple shows.

Performers cant hear you unless youre registered, join a show , and intentionally send your cam + microphone,. So if your mic was on no wouldve heard you.

Also, most popups arent actually live.

roast
09-14-2013, 10:06 PM
Despite the derailment and somewhat zombified nature of this thread, I hope no one (especially the billion mods who posted here) minds me breaking my lurkerdom to post my viewpoint, since this thread still pops up for guys interested in this job, and it's not a super well talked about facet of the job.

Don't be discouraged from trying camming. I've only cammed a few months here and there (so take my n00b advice with a grain of salt)but I'm already making, without being super specific, a little over $1000/week when I work full-time, though nobody can tell you exactly how much you'll make. I'm definitely of the "twink" persuasion and tons of guys love that, I'm sure just as many (or more) love the body builder types, but there isn't only one body type for camming. The main thing is finding what works for you, I'm personable and try to be a little goofy and that works for me. Maybe it will work for you too, or maybe being a sultry sex pistol oozing with passion works better for you, it'll take a little playing around to find out what hustle works best for you.

So, yes, guys and gals reading this thread looking to find out if being a male cam model is even worth it, it can be if you make it.
Just make sure to read the great tips all the stellar ladies of this forum have to offer, seriously, they're life-savers and bank-makers.

I see people ask a lot about male web cam modeling on various forums and usually there is no "I have direct actual experience" responses, so just requoting bc you found this thread by poking around so it is probably decently indexed. Thanks for answering.

Djoser
09-14-2013, 10:50 PM
What she's saying is customers can be uniquely brutal to male performers who do couple shows.

Performers cant hear you unless youre registered, join a show , and intentionally send your cam + microphone,. So if your mic was on no wouldve heard you.

Also, most popups arent actually live.

Thanks, but I am fully aware they cannot hear me on the microphone when I am surfing and popups appear. ;D

I also know that the popups aren't always live. All the more reason to wonder why they sometimes pick physically hideous performers for the popups. I know there are some guys into freaky shit, but they will repulse far more guys than they will attract by using some of the ones I've seen.

!TheOne
09-15-2013, 07:07 AM
Well you're definitely not the guy in your avatar. I know the photographer who took that image. Knowing him and where he lives, I don't think that you're the model, based on where you've said you live.

So, we don't really know what you look like.

lmao!

Well, thanks for the compliment, I guess!

That is 100% me. It was taken in London. The photographer lives in London.

Not sure why it's outside most peoples reality. It's not THAT impressive. I had several weak points then: under developed delts for one. (that photo is over a year old). Some of my friends look 10 times better than me.

But my avatar is 100% me. I'd like you to Private Message me this photographer you're chatting about...

!TheOne

justanothercamgirl
09-15-2013, 07:21 AM
Riiiight. Yeah we don't always starve ourselves, and we're honest about making a profit off our bodies...

34945

!TheOne
09-15-2013, 07:25 AM
^Not necessarily, couples can be really tough to make money at and the guys will be absolutely vicious to you

Never really had anyone vicious towards me.

What do you mean customers are vicious?

TheOne

justanothercamgirl
09-15-2013, 07:31 AM
Despite the derailment and somewhat zombified nature of this thread, I hope no one (especially the billion mods who posted here) minds me breaking my lurkerdom to post my viewpoint, since this thread still pops up for guys interested in this job, and it's not a super well talked about facet of the job.

Don't be discouraged from trying camming. I've only cammed a few months here and there (so take my n00b advice with a grain of salt)but I'm already making, without being super specific, a little over $1000/week when I work full-time, though nobody can tell you exactly how much you'll make. I'm definitely of the "twink" persuasion and tons of guys love that, I'm sure just as many (or more) love the body builder types, but there isn't only one body type for camming. The main thing is finding what works for you, I'm personable and try to be a little goofy and that works for me. Maybe it will work for you too, or maybe being a sultry sex pistol oozing with passion works better for you, it'll take a little playing around to find out what hustle works best for you.

So, yes, guys and gals reading this thread looking to find out if being a male cam model is even worth it, it can be if you make it.
Just make sure to read the great tips all the stellar ladies of this forum have to offer, seriously, they're life-savers and bank-makers.

Thank you so much for commenting! I am very happy to have you here. :)

!TheOne
09-15-2013, 07:42 AM
Riiiight. Yeah we don't always starve ourselves, and we're honest about making a profit off our bodies...34945

34946

AureliaC
09-17-2013, 01:27 PM
Despite the derailment and somewhat zombified nature of this thread, I hope no one (especially the billion mods who posted here) minds me breaking my lurkerdom to post my viewpoint, since this thread still pops up for guys interested in this job, and it's not a super well talked about facet of the job.

Don't be discouraged from trying camming. I've only cammed a few months here and there (so take my n00b advice with a grain of salt)but I'm already making, without being super specific, a little over $1000/week when I work full-time, though nobody can tell you exactly how much you'll make. I'm definitely of the "twink" persuasion and tons of guys love that, I'm sure just as many (or more) love the body builder types, but there isn't only one body type for camming. The main thing is finding what works for you, I'm personable and try to be a little goofy and that works for me. Maybe it will work for you too, or maybe being a sultry sex pistol oozing with passion works better for you, it'll take a little playing around to find out what hustle works best for you.

So, yes, guys and gals reading this thread looking to find out if being a male cam model is even worth it, it can be if you make it.
Just make sure to read the great tips all the stellar ladies of this forum have to offer, seriously, they're life-savers and bank-makers.

Our only problem is him saying "no you can't, go rip girls off instead" and generally giving this poor guy horrible and unhelpful advice that could hurt his confidence and chances as a model. Guys CAN make money camming on their own, anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about. I married a male webcam model, he hustles better than I do and some days makes more than me. We've performed together, and do alright since I'm on the OK side of meh and he's ripped, but the majority of couples don't do as well as solo performers. And after 20 minutes of random jerks insulting my guy I'm at the end of my rope. The trolls in my room are minimal, cheap perverts, with couples it seems tearing down the guy is the real turn on for them. It makes me sick. This business is ALL about attitude, starting the day off worrying about money and thinking you won't make any and that's exactly how it will be. And so anyone who tries to turn people away from the business instead of helping them doesn't belong here. I'm assuming the OP has already lost interest, and it makes me sad. And I really hope any guys who goes through this thread finds the assurance they need to give it a real try, because it's totally possible. With !TheOne's shitty attitude it's no wonder no customers wanted to spend one on one time with him, doesn't mean other guys won't do great :)
Thanks for sharing your story

!TheOne
10-04-2013, 11:02 AM
Our only problem is him saying "no you can't, go rip girls off instead" and generally giving this poor guy horrible and unhelpful advice that could hurt his confidence and chances as a model. Guys CAN make money camming on their own, anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about. I married a male webcam model, he hustles better than I do and some days makes more than me. We've performed together, and do alright since I'm on the OK side of meh and he's ripped, but the majority of couples don't do as well as solo performers. And after 20 minutes of random jerks insulting my guy I'm at the end of my rope. The trolls in my room are minimal, cheap perverts, with couples it seems tearing down the guy is the real turn on for them. It makes me sick. This business is ALL about attitude, starting the day off worrying about money and thinking you won't make any and that's exactly how it will be. And so anyone who tries to turn people away from the business instead of helping them doesn't belong here. I'm assuming the OP has already lost interest, and it makes me sad. And I really hope any guys who goes through this thread finds the assurance they need to give it a real try, because it's totally possible. With !TheOne's shitty attitude it's no wonder no customers wanted to spend one on one time with him, doesn't mean other guys won't do great :)
Thanks for sharing your story

Ripping people off indeed.

So then I take it you also find headhunters and employment agencies repugnant!?!?

Let's say someone is looking for some kind of adult work and did not consider webcam modelling, and probably never would have found out about it. If someone introduces them to it and shows them the studios to sign up with etc, and they start making a ton of money, did that person not provide some major help to them?

He can work as a webcam model, in fact I did NOT say for him not to. But what happens to his income if he stops working? Isn't it better to think about things long term?? I can tell you that most guys would enjoy working in the business side of things more than actually webcamming themselves.

And Jesus, stop worrying about his confidence, unless you are his mum. I'm sure he wants more pragmatic advice.

Look, maybe he went off and started a studio and is making $$$... or maybe he listened to you and became a webcam model and is making $$$. Either this will be the last response from me on this.

!TheOne

AureliaC
10-04-2013, 11:52 AM
Look, maybe he went off and started a studio and is making $$$... or maybe he listened to you and became a webcam model and is making $$$. Either this will be the last response from me on this.

!TheOne
So you've finally made enough of an ass out of yourself to leave everyone is peace? Hallelujah.
Seriously, you know nothing, have nothing to contribute that is in any way helpful and didn't even know what a studio was. I'd believe my 60 year old minister mother was a webcam model before I'd believe you were. Troll elsewhere pumpkin..

Rina
10-06-2013, 06:19 PM
To answer the OP male models seem to do okay on Chaturbate and Cam4.

CourtneyRaine
10-06-2013, 09:43 PM
I second Chaturbate for guys, I have helped many a boy there reach his goal and it's an awesome community. As a cam viewer I don't think I'd personally pay guys on any other site just because I am not interested in paying a per minute rate for private shows and I find chaturbate to be more user friendly than Cam4. (I've also been a performer on both sites.)

!TheOne
10-12-2013, 06:28 AM
So you've finally made enough of an ass out of yourself to leave everyone is peace? Hallelujah.

Well, the suggestion that he starts a studio seems to be stirring you up...

Did you have a bad experience with one?


Seriously, you know nothing

You're entitled to your 'opinion', even if I disagree I'll happily discuss things in a CIVILISED manner.

My advice is that he starts a studio. He can be a webcam model in the beginning - but it's in no way a long term solution for a bloke. (Based on what he wrote in his post).

If he'd said:
"I'm an exhibitionist, and I like whipping it out etc etc"
"I'm just doing this for fun"
"Just want to have an hourly wage. Not interested in the long term",
then he should just become a model.

But he said:
"I'm shy about getting it out"
"It feels weird"
"I want to make a lot of money"
"Please hold my hand and give me moral support blah blah blah..."

And you seriously think it's a good idea for him to be a webcam model?

AureliaC
10-12-2013, 08:52 AM
If he wants to then yes, it is a good idea. And no, I've never signed on with a studio. Because I came here and the women helped me from getting screwed over. We're supportive here, if you don't care about him doing well then why say anything at all? I reiterate, you have nothing to contribute and have no place here.
How can you possibly think starting a studio is a good idea when you didn't even know what the f### it is??
Being shy about getting it out is normal, and wears off pretty damn quick when the cash starts rolling in. Now we were all getting pretty pumped you were leaving, so follow through and move on.

!TheOne
10-12-2013, 09:24 AM
If he wants to then yes, it is a good idea. And no, I've never signed on with a studio. Because I came here and the women helped me from getting screwed over. We're supportive here, if you don't care about him doing well then why say anything at all?

Okay, I get that your view is that studios screw women over.

Why do you immediately assume that if this guy starts one he'll behave that way too?

AureliaC
10-12-2013, 10:07 AM
"It's easier to have models working for you and take a percentage than have to do the hard work"
Is sitting back and just profiting off the hard work of others NOT what you're expressly telling this guy to do? What could he possibly have to offer? Go read up on studios and come back.

!TheOne
10-12-2013, 11:19 AM
"It's easier to have models working for you and take a percentage than have to do the hard work"
Is sitting back and just profiting off the hard work of others NOT what you're expressly telling this guy to do? What could he possibly have to offer? Go read up on studios and come back.

What do employment agencies and head hunters offer? Yet, do you know their fees!?

Maybe he can offer something. How do you know? We don't know what the guys situation is. If he is even still reading this thread.

And I have to ask you, if studios are so evil, why do the cam sites themselves encourage them? Working for F4F, I was always hassled about signing up models under my 'studio'.

Based on what the guy is saying, he's shy and feels weird about getting it out, which is a problem. I've got news for you: women can fake performing, yet men can't. You can't TELL a guy to just get it up if he feels weird about it. Do you honestly know any male adult performer wannabe who had trouble performing, yet was able to just snap out of it and get it up? Even if offerred a lot of money?

Next, what do you think is the best long term plan financially? Having a set hourly wage which doesn't increase and where his income stops if he stops working, or the chance to build a business which can grow?

AureliaC
10-12-2013, 11:31 AM
I don't think people are entitled to massive cuts of someone's income forever because they spammed them and made the girls believe they were actually getting something. It's no more difficult to send your info into a site than to send your info in to a studio. If it's someone offering a cam space, fine, that's SOMETHING in return.
Sites are all happy about studios because they spam people and get a few sign ups, what does the site care that most studios are just con jobs? For them it's free advertising and the models eat the exorbitant cost. A good long term plan for the guy who doesn't want to model? College, trade school, apprentice program, clips.
I've face palmed enough, I refuse to argue with someone who seriously had to have the concept of a studio explained to him two pages ago.

!TheOne
10-12-2013, 11:48 AM
I don't think people are entitled to massive cuts of someone's income forever because they spammed them and made the girls believe they were actually getting something. It's no more difficult to send your info into a site than to send your info in to a studio. If it's someone offering a cam space, fine, that's SOMETHING in return.
Sites are all happy about studios because they spam people and get a few sign ups, what does the site care that most studios are just con jobs? For them it's free advertising and the models eat the exorbitant cost. A good long term plan for the guy who doesn't want to model? College, trade school, apprentice program, clips.
I've face palmed enough, I refuse to argue with someone who seriously had to have the concept of a studio explained to him two pages ago.

Then you want to also take it up with the evil camsites who enabled the technology for the studios to exist in the first place. They even encourage it you know. They created it.

And I'm assuming you also have a problem with the employment agency and HH sector, then? Because all they do is take the call, and then get a Lawyer to draw up the deal.

Let me ask you this, what would HELP him to get into college?