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JaneBurgess
06-30-2013, 07:14 PM
They care because many customers now expect or demand video's with Gold shows. It's a trickle down effect.




Girls sell videos and download links all the time, and someone got it OK'd from Streamate and I believe they may have even posted the screenshot. Though this was probably posted in Verified.

But anyway, I don't have to worry personally, because I've never done that and never plan to. It doesn't make me money with my customer base anyway, even if I wanted it to. I don't know why people are caring so hard about what other people do.

GlamourRouge
06-30-2013, 07:14 PM
Why would they troll your room for posting your cam name on here?

Do you know how many times that has happened? Not to me, but to others who have posted about it? That, and customers watch the fuck out of this forum. The girls who are out about who they are on here, ALWAYS talk about how customers (especially clingy regulars) will talk about something they wrote on here, in their cam chat room! Kinda creepy.

JaneBurgess
06-30-2013, 07:16 PM
I don't have an issue with anyone that does well. I am friends with most of the cam performers that do well. Hell I am good friends with the top earner on Streamate. However I have an issue with performers on here telling other performers they suck, posting how well they claim they do and then hiding behind a fake user name. If you are going to act like that you should at least have the balls to say who you are.




Jane, what is your beef with girls that do well? You seriously think they are lying? I was with one of the girls last night who posted her screenshot earnings..she wasn't lying about it. With people like you on this forum, I can totally see why a girl wouldn't want to give out her cam name. :)

SweetPinkCupcake
06-30-2013, 07:18 PM
Also, some girls on here are escorts and post in the Other Work section. Why the hell would you want your cam customers to know that? Hiding behind a fake username??? Seriously, what is wrong with you

GlamourRouge
06-30-2013, 07:18 PM
However I have an issue with performers on here telling other performers they suck

No one ever said that lol

MissSassyPickles
06-30-2013, 07:20 PM
Yes let's have all my cam customers read about my escorting and my asshole ex boyfriend and my bodily functions!!! Yesssssssss

CamVeteran
06-30-2013, 07:21 PM
I agree with the escorting thing and customers creeping.. but the escorting thing.. umm isnt legal in USA so thats another whole thing.. but Jane is right... if you do well AND downplay others, you should not be hiding behind anonimoty. It just makes everyone think you're full of it, even if you aren't :)

GlamourRouge
06-30-2013, 07:22 PM
Yes let's have all my cam customers read about my escorting and my asshole ex boyfriend and my bodily functions!!! Yesssssssss

Yes!!! And lets have all my cam customers read about my lupus flares, my previous lip injections, how much of a lesb I am, and the cities/places I always frequent!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!



I agree with the escorting thing and customers creeping.. but the escorting thing.. umm isnt legal in USA so thats another whole thing.. but Jane is right... if you do well AND downplay others, you should not be hiding behind anonimoty. It just makes everyone think you're full of it, even if you aren't :)

When the OP of the thread knows who I am personally, as does like everyone else I was replying to, and I'm commenting to them, then why does it even matter if I'm anon on here then? lol

Marina Starr
06-30-2013, 07:22 PM
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JaneBurgess
06-30-2013, 07:25 PM
Girl you know they won't say who they are. It's easier to talk shit to other performers under a different name. That's why they worry about being trolled, karma bites you back in the ass. I post under my cam name because I don't have anything to hide. If someone has nothing better to do then troll me, more power to them.

Escorting isn't legal in most of the US. Pretty sure it is in parts of Nevada.




I agree with the escorting thing and customers creeping.. but the escorting thing.. umm isnt legal in USA so thats another whole thing.. but Jane is right... if you do well AND downplay others, you should not be hiding behind anonimoty. It just makes everyone think you're full of it, even if you aren't :)

SweetPinkCupcake
06-30-2013, 07:25 PM
I agree with the escorting thing and customers creeping.. but the escorting thing.. umm isnt legal in USA so thats another whole thing.. but Jane is right... if you do well AND downplay others, you should not be hiding behind anonimoty. It just makes everyone think you're full of it, even if you aren't :)

OK, the escorting thing...umm isn't legal in the USA, PLEASE tell me what that has to do with wanting to be anonymous? FYI...people also and have gotten arrested for camming in rented places. I don't even know why you threw in that comment. You are acting like one type of sex worker is better than the other.

PS, have you been Camming Since 97? :)

GlamourRouge
06-30-2013, 07:28 PM
Girl you know they won't say who they are. It's easier to talk shit to other performers under a different name. That's why they worry about being trolled, karma bites you back in the ass. I post under my cam name because I don't have anything to hide. If someone has nothing better to do then troll me, more power to them.

Yes, I am worried about karma when... ...I am not doing anything wrong except giving helpful advice that others have already told me... was helpful to them, in this very thread.

JaneBurgess
06-30-2013, 07:31 PM
I did read the postings, seems like a bogus excuse. Many of us post under our cam names and don't get trolled by other performers. If you are referring to the escorting thing, if you are in the US (not Nevada) then you are breaking the law. So ya you should be worried.




Lol, we already explained to you why ...? Did you not read?

GlamourRouge
06-30-2013, 07:32 PM
I did read the postings, seems like a bogus excuse. Many of us post under our cam names and don't get trolled by other performers.

Its not trolls people are worried about, its other people (like diehard regs) reading our other private stuff that we have posted on SW. Not a smart business move.

MissSassyPickles
06-30-2013, 07:34 PM
Other girls here know who I am.. I have nothing to hide from fellow models I've built rapport with as we help each other all the time. It isn't attractive for customers to read about personal issues no one wants to see that or to become a target from other jealous models that try to sabotage instead of working on themselves. Also privacy is a huge concern as well as a right. It's not "hiding".

SarahTime
06-30-2013, 07:34 PM
I wish I was anonymous.

JaneBurgess
06-30-2013, 07:36 PM
Then don't be shocked if other cam performers question the validity of what you post. If a cam performer is crazy enough to troll another cam performer, then cam performers are crazy enough to lie. I'm not saying you are a liar, but I also don't know who you are.




Its not trolls people are worried about, its other people (like diehard regs) reading our other private stuff that we have posted on SW. Not a smart business move.

JaneBurgess
06-30-2013, 07:38 PM
I'm glad you're not. I trust your advice and opinions because I know how hard you work. It's hard to believe someone on a forum when you have no idea who they are.




I wish I was anonymous.

MissSassyPickles
06-30-2013, 07:38 PM
Escorts "should be worried" while camming in most areas is actually illegal as it is filming porn that others have been arrested for? Sex workers are sex workers.

Yeah Jane I would definitely tell you who I am after you put down escorts... lol

GlamourRouge
06-30-2013, 07:41 PM
Then don't be shocked if other cam performers question the validity of what you post. If a cam performer is crazy enough to troll another cam performer, then cam performers are crazy enough to lie. I'm not saying you are a liar, but I also don't know who you are.

Lol I'm pretty sure we don't care if other cam performers question the validity. Every single person I was directing advice to (and almost everyone in this post already) knows who I am. JAC (the OP of this thread) for example, knows me from chatzy, which has been around for 2 years now.

A lot of people are completely unaware which cam girls know which other cam girls really well. Mostly because of chatzy, and a lot of others I know through exchange contact details. That's how I know justanothercamgirl (the OP of the thread). Most of the other girls commenting are also in or have been in chatzy quite often in the past. And I've met quite a few girls off StripperWeb at this point. I think I'm up to like 7.

So while, to you, it may look like I'm giving advice to someone I don't know... in reality, I know many of these people really, really well.

And if other people have already commented saying the information I or we posted was valuable and helpful anyway, what's the problem?

SweetPinkCupcake
06-30-2013, 07:45 PM
JaneBurgess, I see you live in Arizona. FYI, Arizona is a police/conservative state. You also have a physical cam studio. If you had neighbors complain about your camming, you would get arrested for filming porn. Don't knock it. You aren't better than any other sex worker because you aren't an escort.

Marina Starr
06-30-2013, 07:53 PM
And if you are a Transsexual, please don't go to Arizona. You could get arrested and fine for using the bathroom. DAAAAAAAAAAMN!

GlamourRouge
06-30-2013, 07:56 PM
And if you are a Transsexual, please don't go to Arizona. You could get arrested and fine for using the bathroom. DAAAAAAAAAAMN!

I would believe it. It seems/looks so liberal at first glance, but its MASSIVELY conservative there (in Arizona).

Marina Starr
06-30-2013, 08:00 PM
And on the behalf of all the bold and courageous Transsexual out there, I say FUCK YOU ARIZONA!

I would believe it. It seems/looks so liberal at first glance, but its MASSIVELY conservative there (in Arizona).

CourtneyRaine
06-30-2013, 08:11 PM
I've lived in Arizona for 3 years and would like to stay fuck this state too. Thus my plan to get the heck out.

This thread has been so derailed i thought i'd throw that in :)

temptingmodel
06-30-2013, 08:12 PM
Holy FUCK! is all I can say.

Why do GOOD THREADS always turn out this way?

BTW ~ I am trolled all the time. TOP (cough lol cough they think they are top models) Models wrote blogs (LOL) about me. Talk about , get a fucking life?
Some think they are great pornstars, never heard of them, NEVER.
I REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT EARNINGS, REFUSE IT. It is stupid , IMO. It is no ones business esp if the model is known. To each its own.

HaydenBlue
06-30-2013, 08:22 PM
This thread...

http://i.imgur.com/HHIdi6U.gif


Like, where are we again? I need cliff notes, haha.

Marina Starr
06-30-2013, 09:42 PM
Because we know drama at Stripperweb!


Why do GOOD THREADS always turn out this way?

LadyCoco
06-30-2013, 09:47 PM
Awesome! Are you a make up Artist! Your way of camming is similar to mine. I'm a Hair Doctor!

Pfft, I wish! Actually, I write.

loveshooks
06-30-2013, 10:15 PM
the question I actually asked Loveshooks

I'm on vacation this weekend (hence the 'knock on sand' reference) so I haven't been around much, I wasn't avoiding the question. My personal answer would be that I don't do any 'extreme' type of camming (like seriously, I'm staid as hell, I don't even do anal). I just mix things up as best I can. I try to show my guys something new from time to time, so things don't get dull...a new fantasy, a new mood, just...something different. I change my appearance up a lot as well but that's more for me. I think this could apply to new customers as well as regs? I'm sure not every guy goes private or joins a gold show the first time he enters a room, and many guys do revisit cam chicas as they surf around sites. All I'm saying is that if the stat quo doesn't grab em, there's very little practical down side to trying something new. The emotional/psychological down side is the uncertainty that comes with trying something new, which can be scary as fuck. I'm not criticizing anyone's hustle here, just stating that I've found variety is the key to sustainable success, for me anyways.

I guess my point was a generalized point that whatever works isn't guaranteed to always work, and when ish starts to slip it's not a failure or an indictment of one's skills, it's a challenge to find what does work now. From my experience my money has way more to do with me than it does with any site I work, including my own. That's my unique experience but I know I'm not alone there, and I think in a thread that talks about Plan B it does cam chicas in general a disservice if we leave ourselves out of a discussion of options. We ourselves are variables. I don't intend for any 'blame' to be attached to that.

I'm gonna get back to the beach and my vodka ting. Wishing everyone a wicked $$$$ night

temptingmodel
06-30-2013, 11:47 PM
Most sensible, factual statement posted... since a few pages ago.
Those girls are not easy to spot when they spend most of the time in privates making money. Not all models spend hours in free chat running gold show countdowns. With a good base of regulars and decent prices, you will rarely see those girls in free chat.

temptingmodel
06-30-2013, 11:48 PM
I'm on vacation this weekend
I'm gonna get back to the beach and my vodka ting. Wishing everyone a wicked $$$$ night
;) Just ignore us , enjoy your vacation

Please throw one back fast for me

JaneBurgess
07-01-2013, 12:42 AM
Cam studio's are legal here as long as they are in commercial buildings, which mine is. You would not get arrested for filming porn, porn is not illegal here.



JaneBurgess, I see you live in Arizona. FYI, Arizona is a police/conservative state. You also have a physical cam studio. If you had neighbors complain about your camming, you would get arrested for filming porn. Don't knock it. You aren't better than any other sex worker because you aren't an escort.

CamVeteran
07-01-2013, 12:47 AM
Thank you for taking time to answer. Yes I do similar with appearance and toys, I do get into ruts and I think a different time of day, different room or backdrop, and finding my niche, whatever that's is, would help. I'll try all that and see before I bail lol. Thanks girl for the straightforward unaccusational teply. :-)


I'm on vacation this weekend (hence the 'knock on sand' reference) so I haven't been around much, I wasn't avoiding the question. My personal answer would be that I don't do any 'extreme' type of camming (like seriously, I'm staid as hell, I don't even do anal). I just mix things up as best I can. I try to show my guys something new from time to time, so things don't get dull...a new fantasy, a new mood, just...something different. I change my appearance up a lot as well but that's more for me. I think this could apply to new customers as well as regs? I'm sure not every guy goes private or joins a gold show the first time he enters a room, and many guys do revisit cam chicas as they surf around sites. All I'm saying is that if the stat quo doesn't grab em, there's very little practical down side to trying something new. The emotional/psychological down side is the uncertainty that comes with trying something new, which can be scary as fuck. I'm not criticizing anyone's hustle here, just stating that I've found variety is the key to sustainable success, for me anyways.

I guess my point was a generalized point that whatever works isn't guaranteed to always work, and when ish starts to slip it's not a failure or an indictment of one's skills, it's a challenge to find what does work now. From my experience my money has way more to do with me than it does with any site I work, including my own. That's my unique experience but I know I'm not alone there, and I think in a thread that talks about Plan B it does cam chicas in general a disservice if we leave ourselves out of a discussion of options. We ourselves are variables. I don't intend for any 'blame' to be attached to that.

I'm gonna get back to the beach and my vodka ting. Wishing everyone a wicked $$$$ night

JaneBurgess
07-01-2013, 12:51 AM
They turn out this way because idiots can't read the topic of threads. They stick their two cents in when it was made clear that it wasn't wanted. Then even after it was made clear they go on and on and on and on and they take over the thread. Then when called out on it they were just doing a "service" and trying to help someone out. How about stick to the thread topic and keep your opinions to yourself unless asked for it.

Yes many on here think they are top models too and they aren't. Someone was kind enough to tell me who these people were in this thread. Not who I was expecting to be honest.






Holy FUCK! is all I can say.

Why do GOOD THREADS always turn out this way?

BTW ~ I am trolled all the time. TOP (cough lol cough they think they are top models) Models wrote blogs (LOL) about me. Talk about , get a fucking life?
Some think they are great pornstars, never heard of them, NEVER.
I REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT EARNINGS, REFUSE IT. It is stupid , IMO. It is no ones business esp if the model is known. To each its own.

CamVeteran
07-01-2013, 12:57 AM
OK, the escorting thing...umm isn't legal in the USA, PLEASE tell me what that has to do with wanting to be anonymous? FYI...people also and have gotten arrested for camming in rented places. I don't even know why you threw in that comment. You are acting like one type of sex worker is better than the other.




PS, have you been Camming Since 97? :) re read what I said please. I agree with some reason for anonymous posts but to throw the fact you're an (illegal) escort in is not a winner lol! Ive been camming for 9 years on and off, only the last four full time. Besides if you assume someones years make them an expert, I'd use my college experience to disagree.. Long story there but tine served dies not equal expert.

CamVeteran
07-01-2013, 01:06 AM
Damn phone.. Correct to "time served does not equal expert."

GlamourRouge
07-01-2013, 01:33 AM
There are so many haters in here that I'm dying of laughter.






I'd use my college experience to disagree.. Long story there but tine served dies not equal expert.

She went to college too lol




They turn out this way because idiots can't read the topic of threads. They stick their two cents in when it was made clear that it wasn't wanted. Then even after it was made clear they go on and on and on and on and they take over the thread. Then when called out on it they were just doing a "service" and trying to help someone out. How about stick to the thread topic and keep your opinions to yourself unless asked for it.

ahem:


Thank you GlamourRouge! This is just the kind of advice that I have been hoping for.


yeah i know its totally de-railed but still in between the lines of the bickering theres good info i found them did u? lol


My next thought is encompassed by the brilliant posts below:

" Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
- Change your rates (either raise them or lower them)
- Change what you look like (wig, outfits, etc because trends change)
- Change your attitude (this is a BIG one) and become nicer or more interactive
- Change your niche(s)"


^^^what they said.

temptingmodel
07-01-2013, 02:04 AM
Someone was kind enough to tell me who these people were in this thread. Not who I was expecting to be honest.
Not towards Jane @ all

this is F'd up to the 10th power.
Who is anyone on this forum to give names of models? If we want ppl to know , we will tell people through PM. This is severely F'd up

People just need to ask if they want to know, dont out someone.

We choose to out ourselves in PMs . NOT through the rumor mill.

MissSassyPickles
07-01-2013, 02:07 AM
Yes I find that to be a complete invasion of privacy. I already suspect who it is and am very disappointed.

HaydenBlue
07-01-2013, 02:22 AM
I forgot to ask, what happens when you reach that "top model" status that you speak of? Do you win a prize? Gain access to a secret area on the site? LOL. This is all new to me!

Confetti explodes out of your vaginia!!!

GlamourRouge
07-01-2013, 02:41 AM
Confetti explodes out of your vaginia!!!

You forgot to elaborate further!!! Sammii pops out of your meaty vagina and yells SURPRISE!!! Then she makes fun of everyone's small cock.

HaydenBlue
07-01-2013, 03:04 AM
You forgot to elaborate further!!! Sammii pops out of your meaty vagina and yells SURPRISE!!! Then she makes fun of everyone's small cock.

Then Shawn and Tyra Banks both pop out from under your bed and hand you a golden dildo. And all of the other "top" girls form a circle around you for a giant bukkake and squirt on you to initiate you into the top model ranks.

MissSassyPickles
07-01-2013, 03:11 AM
*dying*

SweetPinkCupcake
07-01-2013, 03:43 AM
re read what I said please. I agree with some reason for anonymous posts but to throw the fact you're an (illegal) escort in is not a winner lol! Ive been camming for 9 years on and off, only the last four full time. Besides if you assume someones years make them an expert, I'd use my college experience to disagree.. Long story there but tine served dies not equal expert.

College experience, college experience, blah blah blah. You aren't the only one with 'college experience'. Why don't you use your 'college experience' to pursue a new job, since this industry obviously isn't working for you? Can't use your degree? Didn't finish it? You obviously hate sex workers, as you put down your own kind. I think you should use your 'college experience' to get a new job. :D :D :D

Incantatious
07-01-2013, 03:48 AM
Typical derailment of threads:


http://24.media.tumblr.com/fe119eb48a868f8614f4d33d131b549f/tumblr_mlzf6ef0Wl1so8xwlo1_500.jpg

Derailment of this thread:


http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ft4z3AJM1rwcc6bo1_400.gif


Does anyone even remember the original point of this thread anymore? lol.



These are the sites that I currently don't know anything about. What are your girls opinions on?

1. iFriends
2. Rude
3. Naked
4. Chaturbate
5. Cam4
6. Cam Girl Spot
Ugh, I hate to say it but also...
7. LiveJasmin



Personally I am relying on (in no specific order!) MGF, MFC, Cam4 and C4S as my backups for if my main site, SM dies or my work there just stops bringing in money.

I find lurking the C4S threads in verified SO encouraging because the ladies there set great goals and it seems like a truly worthwhile site to dedicate time to.

I can't ever see myself going indy though.

GlamourRouge
07-01-2013, 04:22 AM
WTF? I just read this ... SweetPinkCupcake is a good friend of mine and you know nothing about her ... FYI, she was successful as a camgirl but moved on to escorting because it was more lucrative. Who are you to judge people? You've been camming for 9 years ...? Lol, should we give you an award?

She's also a pornstar now, too. Gotta go where you get the most cash!

SarahTime
07-01-2013, 07:47 AM
Someone was kind enough to tell me who these people were in this thread. Not who I was expecting to be honest.

And for some reason I've been asked 3 times now if that person was me!!!

Seriously? Wow. Why anyone would think I am that type of person is beyond me and a tad hurtful. I completely respect ALL camgirls and would never do such a thing, so I'm not sure why I'm being asked in PMs if it was me. :(

I agree it's completely fucked up.

Jane, I would appreciate you telling everyone that it was not me who was low enough to out fellow performers.

ClaudiaReina
07-01-2013, 08:40 AM
"sw is pretty depressing these days" I read quick and GTFO bc it will mess with my head and then my money.


http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u489/roseofsharon33/GIF%20Response/sniffyeah.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/roseofsharon33/media/GIF%20Response/sniffyeah.gif.html)

One thread says I can't possibly make money because I'm "overweight", now I'm reading here that nobody wants me, because I'm not native English speaker.

In the meantime, money as usual, for me at least... I work less and earn more than a year ago. If I can make C4S my main money maker before the baby is here, that will be perfect, if not, maybe I'll take a pay cut and return to camming on the side when I can.


I think it's time for me to retire to Verified for a few months again::) I can't work while thinking "Oh, gosh, I wonder if he left because of my accent...OMG, they didn't buy my clip, is it because in the previous one I was talking?! Or maybe I'm too fat for them?" - just some examples, I've NEVER thought these in real life, ever. But I can't help it, some posts on SW successfully kill my morale these days.

Blovely
07-01-2013, 09:03 AM
I'ma just leave this right here:
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