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AliceFun
07-01-2013, 09:23 PM
Hi tempting, thank u for telling us about this site, do they pay thru payoneer card? cause on their faqs they talk about epassporte lol which is out of market since a few years. ty

Edit: Just seen on sign up page they pay thru payoneer :) ty

temptingmodel
07-01-2013, 09:37 PM
I signed up for check. YES, They do use payoneer as well
Hi tempting, thank u for telling us about this site, do they pay thru payoneer card? cause on their faqs they talk about epassporte lol which is out of market since a few years. ty

GracieBlue
07-02-2013, 10:20 AM
Can I like this post a million times? I so needed this wake up call!! My attitude sucks right now! Thanks bb!


All I know is, I make fantastic money almost every time I'm on except for when I work in the slow 5-6 hour bracket when no regulars are on. I'm not blaming other performers, but its a FACT that many performers are still making the same great money they always have. I could easily list off like 12 girls I talk to off of StripperWeb who have been on SM for years, and are still going strong. That's.... a fact so... Those girls and the girls who are still doing fine keep saying they don't want to comment on this post (they're reading it though) because there's no point in claiming how awesome they're doing when someone else is not doing great, but I personally thought it was important to point out at least. The customer base could be changing, but isn't the point to build up regulars? Like with any site? To remember people (customers) and what they like so that they get more shows?

There are tech issues yes, but they aren't dealbreakers and don't usually hinder money. You may to have restart your feed or internet, but that's inevitable using a program (HD encoder) that makes you responsible for like 90% of your streaming bandwidth. That's a risk that comes with the territory, which is going to cause freezing, lag, and broadcasting issues. The % SM would take would be much higher if we weren't using our own heavy bandwidth, hence the reason why they place girls using the encoder above (in placement) girls who are not using it.




I agree!!! Honestly, I'm going to be honest here. I've lurked almost EVERY girl who has been complaining about Streamate (its not just one of you! Its like 10 of you) and you all just sit in free chat and stare or act rude to potential customers. Its one thing to be a domme (that me), but there is a nice way to be a domme (smiling, laughing, teasing, engaging) and there is a mean way to be a domme (acting rude, not smiling, ignoring, shutting people down quickly, and complaining). In order to make sales, you need to be really engaging and happy. If you don't want to engage, I feel like you would still make money, but probably just at a lower rate if you aren't getting shows at your current rate.

I'm just being honest with constructive criticism here since I see several people in this thread and others (The Streamate Thread) being one, complaining that they aren't making money when all they are doing is sitting in free chat looking mean and mad and not saying anything or acting like a bitch. Customers do not spend on that. And as a business person, its important to look at all aspects if you are not making money while other people are (which I know is happening and am pointing out!)



This is not directed toward anyone in particular, just in general. And if you don't want to talk about it, don't reply to my comments. But we are all free to say what we want to (within reason) and it might benefit others.

temptingmodel
07-02-2013, 10:58 AM
I see you online sometimes sexy ;) I think the first year(s) are always the hardest.

When I have a shit attitude, music plays a big part in my moods. One day kid rock can make me cry and one day make me smile. Its about finding out what will work for you that day. I try to not worry about things on cam, TRYING is the biggest bc a person can read me like a book. If I seem worried, sad, ill (well, sometimes ill moods sell) I MUST LOG OFF. I will waste my time,I will have lurkers and have mercy on the idiots that troll my room.
Temper is also uncontrollable. I have broken a laptop and a 42inch HD TV from pure aggravation.
Sometimes it is better to NOT log on bc NOT only will I NOT make money but as stated, I have cost myself money. I will log on when I am in a better mood.

Last night for example, I was sad. My mood switched around 1 am ish. Suddenly I was playful for no reason. I logged on and made a FEW hundred in 2 hours. My mood will make or break me.

After I logged off , I fired up up a smoke and pulled 3 smoking clips out of one smoke , all fetish in their own way after I broke it up, so that is 3 clips that will sell on C4S. ;)
Can I like this post a million times? I so needed this wake up call!! My attitude sucks right now! Thanks bb!

BTW I saw your tag line under your photo, congratulations bb ;)

maryjaynexo
07-02-2013, 12:07 PM
Reading this thread:
34143

temptingmodel
07-02-2013, 01:11 PM
LOL^^

catgirl
07-02-2013, 01:39 PM
I heard scoreslive was horrible- I've heard horror stories of them not paying people.

temptingmodel
07-02-2013, 01:44 PM
I have never heard one thing about them, I saw they had a cam site that is why I signed up.

I notice a lot of models are there BUT that tells us nothing.

TY FOR THIS WARNING :)

I havent cammed there, I did very little but not enough to warrant a check yet

I will report back if I can get this 3rd PC working
I heard scoreslive was horrible- I've heard horror stories of them not paying people.

AliceFun
07-02-2013, 03:16 PM
No wonder, i signed up with them this morning and i have no news about being approved or not, tho i can log on my profile page and 'stream' but i am nowhere to be found on site and nobody came into my room, guess i amnot visible to members yet, i was testing things for few mins today. Also on the payment page where i was required to give in payoneer email there was no way to link my account with payoneer account like its normally done, just the field to type the address and save. Pretty weird i must say.

Blovely
07-02-2013, 05:23 PM
I heard scoreslive was horrible- I've heard horror stories of them not paying people.

I didn't want to be a negative Nancy. I was waiting for someone else to bring this up. Here's the threads on them scores live (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?83112-Scores-Live&highlight=Scores+Live), scoreslive.com (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?172753-Scoreslive-com&highlight=scoreslive). I was on there years, I mean yeeeeeears ago. I got no traffic at all. I recently went on there like maybe 6 months ago and only had 1 guy in my room with in the whole hour that I was on and he didn't go pvt. When I first tried it out I was on for hours and I only made $5 lol. I gave it like 3 days and then I quit. I never made pay out btw. I've tried to get my account deleted but support doesn't answer for shit.

TheBrownFox
07-02-2013, 07:07 PM
I'd also heard that Scores Live had sucky traffic. And also - some models might consider this a good thing, while others may think it sucks - Scores Live was/is strict about how their models need to have some sort of solid colored background on cam (similar to those backdrops that photographers use). Absolutely no food, laundry, etc. visible on cam either.

Snowy0Star
07-02-2013, 07:10 PM
I'd also heard that Scores Live had sucky traffic. And also - some models might consider this a good thing, while others may think it sucks - Scores Live was/is strict about how their models need to have some sort of solid colored background on cam (similar to those backdrops that photographers use). Absolutely no food, laundry, etc. visible on cam either.

so what if u have a solid white wall it has to be some kind of wall alteration/ decoration?

temptingmodel
07-02-2013, 10:09 PM
lol its not negative when you experienced it. Its information BUT since the thread did go on a spin, I can understand why you held back :D
I didn't want to be a negative Nancy. I was waiting for someone else to bring this up. Here's the threads on them , . I was on there years, I mean yeeeeeears ago. I got no traffic at all. I recently went on there like maybe 6 months ago and only had 1 guy in my room with in the whole hour that I was on and he didn't go pvt. When I first tried it out I was on for hours and I only made $5 lol. I gave it like 3 days and then I quit. I never made pay out btw. I've tried to get my account deleted but support doesn't answer for shit.

GracieBlue
07-03-2013, 10:00 AM
Aw thank you bb!! Lol I stole my own pic too!


I see you online sometimes sexy ;) I think the first year(s) are always the hardest.

When I have a shit attitude, music plays a big part in my moods. One day kid rock can make me cry and one day make me smile. Its about finding out what will work for you that day. I try to not worry about things on cam, TRYING is the biggest bc a person can read me like a book. If I seem worried, sad, ill (well, sometimes ill moods sell) I MUST LOG OFF. I will waste my time,I will have lurkers and have mercy on the idiots that troll my room.
Temper is also uncontrollable. I have broken a laptop and a 42inch HD TV from pure aggravation.
Sometimes it is better to NOT log on bc NOT only will I NOT make money but as stated, I have cost myself money. I will log on when I am in a better mood.

Last night for example, I was sad. My mood switched around 1 am ish. Suddenly I was playful for no reason. I logged on and made a FEW hundred in 2 hours. My mood will make or break me.

After I logged off , I fired up up a smoke and pulled 3 smoking clips out of one smoke , all fetish in their own way after I broke it up, so that is 3 clips that will sell on C4S. ;)

BTW I saw your tag line under your photo, congratulations bb ;)

temptingmodel
07-03-2013, 01:37 PM
its very pretty LOL
Aw thank you bb!! Lol I stole my own pic too!

TheBrownFox
07-03-2013, 06:55 PM
so what if u have a solid white wall it has to be some kind of wall alteration/ decoration?

Who knows? I'm not interested in that site anyway, so I won't have to worry about their silly "You need a solid backdrop" rule. I don't intend on signing up for anymore cam sites, even though that new site created by the Cam Girl Mansion MFC model sounds pretty cool. I need to just focus on the sites I'm on now, possibly eliminating 1 or 2 of them.

If I do decide to put anything on my wall, it'd probably be something like this since I love music notes. :)
http://www.amazon.com/Notes-Paper-Composer-Melody-Sticker/dp/B007IKCHBA/ref=sr_1_138?ie=UTF8&qid=1372902779&sr=8-138&keywords=music+note+wall

SophieL
07-03-2013, 08:26 PM
Im doing fine, hanging in there. Summer is always hard.

So good to know that it is a seasonal thing on the slowness.

chloemay
07-03-2013, 08:56 PM
I may have bashed MyPhoneSite too quickly, just sold another clip on there with zero promotion or attention from me. It is free to join, 60% payout I think for everything (call and sales). May as well go for it if interested when you have time. They also offer affiliate links but of course I'm not organized enough to have one :-p

toryburch
07-04-2013, 02:57 AM
All cam sites are not running ad's stating they are a dating site. Please show me ad's from another cam site that states that. I can live with cheap. I can't live with these assclowns actually believing it's a damn dating site. Once you long in you should be bright enough to see it's not a dating site. Hell no I don't want to date you or fuck you in real life. Also this traffic is something new. I think most performers can vouch this is the worst traffic the site has ever had. Before it was maybe twenty percent that asked you on dates, now it's more like seventy to eighty percent.

Hell I am pretty clear I am not happy with the site changes and I have started working on another site. Once I have a stronger client base on there I plan to cam there only. I also was there before Gold shows and stuff so I have every right to state my opinion on the decline of the site. The fact is the site is declining. You can't dispute multiple sources that show the traffic is down by half of what it used to be. Once again it isn't the economy, it's unhappy customers.


This blonde is Cuban and says what she thinks. :) (sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad)


Omg.. I agree with every single damn word that you have stated in this thread. SM is not the same site anymore (at least, not for me). It’s like the site did a complete 180. There past three months have been really hard for me especially. I am now dealing with problems on a daily basis that I RARELY had to deal with before.


1) Guys keep asking for my email, phone number, where I live, etc. I have guys trying to meet up with me and some guys have asked if I escort. I get more guys trying to meet up with me than pvts. I had no idea SM was now advertising the site as a dating. This is all new information to me. One guy even logged into his bank acct on his phone and held it up to the camera so that I can see. It was his real acct cause I have the Bank of America app on my phone too. Homeboy have over a million dollars in his acct and claims he would fly me out to his city. Of course when I told him no, he left the chat. They all leave when you refuse to meet them. I am not online to find a boyfriend, fuck buddy, etc.

The guys who come into my chat talking about all their problems are just as bad. In the beginning, I did not mind this. I was cool with casual conversation. But that was before the quality of SM customers changed. I am not a therapist. I don’t give a flying f--k that your goldfish died or your girlfriend dumped you. And I sure as hell am not going to flash or do anything for you for free out of pity like so many of them seem to think. It also a major buzzkill and distraction when these guys try and derail the atmosphere of the chat w/ their BS.

2) Where the hell did all these beggars and freeloaders come from? In my past, 90% of the people who entered my chat would go pvt. Now it’s like pulling teeth to get these losers in a pvt. A lot of them try to get a free show in free chat. They’ll tell you to do stuff repeatedly. “Show a nipple, show boob,” they’ll say without tipping or offering a tip. They’ll keep begging, even after I tell them to go pvt, until I have to kick/ban them.

3) I am being asked to unreasonable things. Like f--k my pussy with the heel of my stiletto shoe. Seriously? I don’t care if I was making $10/min, you will never see me stick something in my vag that isn’t designed to go in there. What’s even more pathetic is the girls who do stuff like this for a $1 a minute. I can’t even call my show an XXX show anymore. How am I supposed to convince a customer to watch me suck a dildo for $3/min when other girls are sticking broomsticks, flashlights, plumbing pipes, and god knows what else in their snatch for far less?

4) Too many times have a customer gotten disconnected from my chat/pvt. I, too, have been disconnected a few times. I also have guys telling my feed is freezing/lagging while everything on my end looks fine. I have a good laptop that I have owned less than a year. I have a good webcam and high speed internet. I also use the stupid hd encoder thing.

5) I have also noticed an increase in rude customers. Complete assholes who are rude for no reason. Being rude and a beggar is a big no-no. I am always polite and professional while online. I don’t throw fits or waste time arguing with people. I just kick/ban and move on.

6) Site traffic, or rather, my room traffic is extremely slow. I spend most of my time browsing other websites while on SM waiting for customers to come into my room. The majority of guys who do come in are beggars. Last night, I was browsing employment ads while on SM. Might as well do something that will benefit my future so that my time sitting in front of the computer mindlessly staring into the screen won’t be a total waste.


I can go on and on but this is the gist of it. The only money I seem to make comes from the few regulars that I have. Even still, it’s not enough money at the end of the night. I am online 6 hours (or more) a day, everyday. I have also notice that most of my regulars have disappeared. The regulars I have now are new. None of my regulars from 2012 log on anymore.

It’s only gonna get worse. Once September rolls around the holidays will be near. More models will be online trying to make extra money for christmas and even less ‘paying’ customers will be online because money is tight for most people around the holidays. More competition and more beggars? I’ll pass.

Maybe it’ll get better. But I am not gonna sit around and wait for it to get better. I am currently looking for a regular job and I will take the first opportunity that comes my way. F--k eggs in basket! That’s my plan B. I have 6 weeks until school starts and I don’t want to be dealing with this unnecessary stress while in school.

Camming made sense when I earned more camming than I earned working a vanilla job. But now that the tables have turned, it’s time to move on with life. I have also found videos of myself on tube sites. So not only am I earning shit, but motherf--kers are my watch my shows free of charge.

I had to ask myself last night. Is dealing with all of the above worth it? For some people the answer may be yes and, who knows, things may get better. But for me the answer is no. I am so glad I had this swift reality check because I have a tendency to get stuck in the routine of things. Now my head is back in the game and I know what needs to be done soon.

Camming was never supposed to be my main source of income. Only temporary until I got back on my feet. Today marks one year since I’ve started camming. How ironic. I gave it good run. Now it’s time to move on.

toryburch
07-04-2013, 03:06 AM
Info about cam4:

pays new models $10 an hour for the first 100 hours, and gives you instant gold status if you email Kim about it.
has 2 private options currently. You can take someone private yourself into a password protected room for an agreed upon amount of time and tokens
or you can click the enable private requests option under your broadcast and they can request a pvt with you for 24tkns a minute ($2.40 your part) and you can allow spies for 8tkns each a minute (.80cent a minute)
is free chat and token based, you can ban and kick ppl if you choose. guests can not talk to you at all ever. to talk to you they have to sign up for atleast a basic account.
you can sell videos, photos, clothing etc in exchange for tokens, they do not host your videos though like mfc

Cam4 is my current main site, I was gone for almost 3 weeks with this week being my first week back and I pulled $650 working about 4 days this week less that 6 hours a day.

Take this information as you will, this is my experience with cam4. Not really qualified to give information anywhere else as my previous main site was mfcs and I havent been live there in a few months.


Thanks for sharing! How does one sign up for cams4.com without making the mistake of signing up through a studio?

Nikki_Fox
07-04-2013, 07:05 AM
^ you cracked me up - not trying to be mean but you just had a 10 minute rant on camming - all valid points :) - and declare you are done with camming - then your very next post is how to sign up for another site - summer is bad for escorting/body rub too in my area - hopefully things will get better for all of us - hang in there ladies

Marina Starr
07-04-2013, 07:12 AM
Yes but her gif makes me smile, lol!

^ you cracked me up - not trying to be mean but you just had a 10 minute
rant on camming - all valid points :) - and declare you are done with camming - then your very next post is how to sign up for another site - summer is bad for escorting/body rub too in my area - hopefully things will get better for all of us - hang in there ladies

Blovely
07-04-2013, 08:24 AM
Yes but her gif makes me smile, lol!
Lol. I thought he was holding a pink water gun and then I looked at it again and realized it was a vibrator/dildo.

Nikki_Fox
07-04-2013, 08:24 AM
Right - news at 11:00 with our on the spot reporter Dick Licker - lol - seriously though - i feel what she is saying as i'm sure many here do - I was laughing in an " I feel you kind of way "

space_cowgirl
07-05-2013, 02:43 PM
It's about adapting to current conditions. You can only change yourself. I was around 3 years ago during the "good old days" on SM when it was easy (like, laughably easy...I wish to god I'd worked more hours then!) to make $100 per hour DURING THE DAY(!!!!!). Today it's much harder (for most of us, anyway), and we have to deal with lower-quality and lower-quantity traffic. The point is, Streamate doesn't care what we think, the freeloaders sure as shit don't care what we think, but we have to figure out, in our own individual ways, how to make the paying customers attracted to us. Change is happening all the time, especially in the camming industry. I'm sure as hell not going to dye my hair blond, get a tan, and write guys names on my boobs for $1, but I'm definitely going to ramp up my content sales on other sites in order to adapt.

JaneBurgess
07-05-2013, 05:00 PM
There's a cam4 thread on here, if you look in there an e-mail address for Kim is in there. Send her a message and she will help you out.



Thanks for sharing! How does one sign up for cams4.com without making the mistake of signing up through a studio?

MissSassyPickles
07-05-2013, 08:11 PM
SarahTime did not out me and I have already apologized to her in private but I wanted to post on this thread publicly for others to see as well.

Will not be responding to this thread anymore but wanted to set the record straight after I've figured out what happened.

Some people just like to start drama instead of working on themselves. Sad.

JaneBurgess
07-05-2013, 10:26 PM
Exactly. The site isn't the same and yes, it may work well for some people the way it is now. However not everyone can or wants to adapt to the new way. That doesn't make them a bad performer, that was the point of my postings. It never hurts to have a Plan B and having your eggs in many baskets is a smart idea.



Omg.. I agree with every single damn word that you have stated in this thread. SM is not the same site anymore (at least, not for me). It’s like the site did a complete 180. There past three months have been really hard for me especially. I am now dealing with problems on a daily basis that I RARELY had to deal with before.


1) Guys keep asking for my email, phone number, where I live, etc. I have guys trying to meet up with me and some guys have asked if I escort. I get more guys trying to meet up with me than pvts. I had no idea SM was now advertising the site as a dating. This is all new information to me. One guy even logged into his bank acct on his phone and held it up to the camera so that I can see. It was his real acct cause I have the Bank of America app on my phone too. Homeboy have over a million dollars in his acct and claims he would fly me out to his city. Of course when I told him no, he left the chat. They all leave when you refuse to meet them. I am not online to find a boyfriend, fuck buddy, etc.

The guys who come into my chat talking about all their problems are just as bad. In the beginning, I did not mind this. I was cool with casual conversation. But that was before the quality of SM customers changed. I am not a therapist. I don’t give a flying f--k that your goldfish died or your girlfriend dumped you. And I sure as hell am not going to flash or do anything for you for free out of pity like so many of them seem to think. It also a major buzzkill and distraction when these guys try and derail the atmosphere of the chat w/ their BS.

2) Where the hell did all these beggars and freeloaders come from? In my past, 90% of the people who entered my chat would go pvt. Now it’s like pulling teeth to get these losers in a pvt. A lot of them try to get a free show in free chat. They’ll tell you to do stuff repeatedly. “Show a nipple, show boob,” they’ll say without tipping or offering a tip. They’ll keep begging, even after I tell them to go pvt, until I have to kick/ban them.

3) I am being asked to unreasonable things. Like f--k my pussy with the heel of my stiletto shoe. Seriously? I don’t care if I was making $10/min, you will never see me stick something in my vag that isn’t designed to go in there. What’s even more pathetic is the girls who do stuff like this for a $1 a minute. I can’t even call my show an XXX show anymore. How am I supposed to convince a customer to watch me suck a dildo for $3/min when other girls are sticking broomsticks, flashlights, plumbing pipes, and god knows what else in their snatch for far less?

4) Too many times have a customer gotten disconnected from my chat/pvt. I, too, have been disconnected a few times. I also have guys telling my feed is freezing/lagging while everything on my end looks fine. I have a good laptop that I have owned less than a year. I have a good webcam and high speed internet. I also use the stupid hd encoder thing.

5) I have also noticed an increase in rude customers. Complete assholes who are rude for no reason. Being rude and a beggar is a big no-no. I am always polite and professional while online. I don’t throw fits or waste time arguing with people. I just kick/ban and move on.

6) Site traffic, or rather, my room traffic is extremely slow. I spend most of my time browsing other websites while on SM waiting for customers to come into my room. The majority of guys who do come in are beggars. Last night, I was browsing employment ads while on SM. Might as well do something that will benefit my future so that my time sitting in front of the computer mindlessly staring into the screen won’t be a total waste.


I can go on and on but this is the gist of it. The only money I seem to make comes from the few regulars that I have. Even still, it’s not enough money at the end of the night. I am online 6 hours (or more) a day, everyday. I have also notice that most of my regulars have disappeared. The regulars I have now are new. None of my regulars from 2012 log on anymore.

It’s only gonna get worse. Once September rolls around the holidays will be near. More models will be online trying to make extra money for christmas and even less ‘paying’ customers will be online because money is tight for most people around the holidays. More competition and more beggars? I’ll pass.

Maybe it’ll get better. But I am not gonna sit around and wait for it to get better. I am currently looking for a regular job and I will take the first opportunity that comes my way. F--k eggs in basket! That’s my plan B. I have 6 weeks until school starts and I don’t want to be dealing with this unnecessary stress while in school.

Camming made sense when I earned more camming than I earned working a vanilla job. But now that the tables have turned, it’s time to move on with life. I have also found videos of myself on tube sites. So not only am I earning shit, but motherf--kers are my watch my shows free of charge.

I had to ask myself last night. Is dealing with all of the above worth it? For some people the answer may be yes and, who knows, things may get better. But for me the answer is no. I am so glad I had this swift reality check because I have a tendency to get stuck in the routine of things. Now my head is back in the game and I know what needs to be done soon.

Camming was never supposed to be my main source of income. Only temporary until I got back on my feet. Today marks one year since I’ve started camming. How ironic. I gave it good run. Now it’s time to move on.