View Full Version : Are Spinners usually the most wanted dancers in your strip club?
tempest666
07-06-2013, 02:03 AM
I'm the right height and weight for a spinner but I think 2 factors disqualify me. ::)
Djoser
07-06-2013, 03:46 AM
I looked at the picture of Mila and I think she would qualify. Look at the proportion of her head to her body, it's quite large--actually not ideal by the athletic human standard, except maybe for gymnastics. She's still hot though.
To me the definition of a spinner is a girl I could pick right up and easily play games with, not necessarily spinning literally, and not just sex but playing around. 5'4" definitely fits in that category, but I am 6'2". And it is emphatically not meant in a derogatory way.
I always liked tall long legged girls, until my first shorter girlfriend & I was an instant convert haha. Now I see the charm in both.
TarsTone
07-06-2013, 05:23 AM
I'm honestly sitting here laughing at the suggestion that Kim K and Christina Hendricks would not cut it in strip clubs!
Maybe I live on a different planet, but I do know I started going to clubs back in the 90s all through the 2000s, and I also know for a fact that some of the most popular dancers and bartenders everywhere I've been happened to have the classic hourglass figure very much in the same mold as those women, and they weren't short either. Some of the most popular porn stars in the last decades have also had this kind of figure.
It amazes me how people HAVE to make themselves believe that whatever they prefer is automatically some sort of universal truth!...Look, I don't really care for the "spinner" type. I've always liked tall women, as I'm not short and don't like that much of a height discrepancy. BUT, I also recognize that many others DO like that body type so I don't go around pretending that short, thin women wouldn't have a shot in a club when in fact I've seen them do well, just like the tall, curvy types that I usually go for. A little perspective and fairness goes a long way.
AureliaC
07-06-2013, 09:26 AM
Or it's their personal opinion that they wouldn't do well in the clubs, which is really the only thing they have to go off of. And it really does depend on demographics a lot. So no Kim K wouldn't do well in ALL clubs, but that has nothing to do with the personal preferences of the men and mainly women here.
Personally the Kim K, Eva Mendes body type is my favorite, but I've gotten a lot of attention at work as a spinner type. We're not body bashing here, just talking about our experiences and the guy's preferences where we live. Which is kinda fascinating really.
Artema
07-06-2013, 09:47 AM
Different strokes for different folks pretty much sums the topic of this thread.
TarsTone
07-06-2013, 10:36 AM
Or it's their personal opinion that they wouldn't do well in the clubs, which is really the only thing they have to go off of.When it comes to something like this, simply observing what goes on around you is a lot more reliable than 'personal opinion'. And I don't see how anyone who has been to different types of strip clubs for the last decade or more can suggest tall, curvy women don't do well! That is blatantly false.
yoda57us
07-06-2013, 11:45 AM
When it comes to something like this, simply observing what goes on around you is a lot more reliable than 'personal opinion'. And I don't see how anyone who has been to different types of strip clubs for the last decade or more can suggest tall, curvy women don't do well! That is blatantly false.
Who has suggested that?
TarsTone
07-06-2013, 11:50 AM
Who has suggested that?
There you go:
Sure a little curves is nice but a woman built like Kim Kardashian could never make it in the stripclub.
This isn't just false. It's ridiculously, laughably false.
charlie61
07-06-2013, 11:54 AM
If we're being purely academic, there are FAR too many factors that go into a dancer's success or lack thereof...the question posed by the OP cannot be answered.
Whether she's "most wanted" or not depends on the region she's working in, the club, whether she takes care of her appearance, whether she's a butterface or not, whether she hustles or not, drinks/does drugs at work, etc. etc. etc.
yoda57us
07-06-2013, 12:21 PM
This isn't just false. It's ridiculously, laughably false.
Well, it's the poster's opinion. Her opinion is not true or false, it's her opinion. Obviously your opinion differs but it's no more "true" or "false" than any other opinion posted here. We aren't doing statistical analysis here, it's a chat board on the internet...
TarsTone
07-06-2013, 12:30 PM
Well, it's the poster's opinion. Her opinion is not true or false, it's her opinion. Obviously your opinion differs but it's no more "true" or "false" than any other opinion posted here. We aren't doing statistical analysis here, it's a chat board on the internet...No. As I already said, things like this are not a matter of opinion but rather a simple question of observing reality. It's like saying a brunette could never make it as a stripper, then saying 'well it's just my opinion'...yeah, it's an opinion, but one that happens to be unsubstantiated and contrary to evidence.
AureliaC
07-06-2013, 12:46 PM
No. As I already said, things like this are not a matter of opinion but rather a simple question of observing reality. It's like saying a brunette could never make it as a stripper, then saying 'well it's just my opinion'...yeah, it's an opinion, but one that happens to be unsubstantiated and contrary to evidence.
Everyone that posts here is going off their experiences, they know what their club is like and if Kim K would make money there or not. Obviously loads of factors go into it but no, it isn't "laughably false" it's just mostly true for where they're at. I really think you're overreacting. This is just a discussion on the marketability of different body types in different clubs and areas, and they DO differ from area to area. Unless you've gone to every club everywhere you really can't say that YOU know so much more about it than the multitude of other people from different towns/cities who have contributed to the discussion. Just about any stripper can make money, and based off different factors other than her body, we really aren't denying that.
yoda57us
07-06-2013, 12:49 PM
No. As I already said, things like this are not a matter of opinion but rather a simple question of observing reality.
Actually, no, everyone who posts here has a right to an opinion. You have a right to post yours as well but it doesn't overrule any other opinion just because you happen to think you are right and others are wrong.
It's like saying a brunette could never make it as a stripper, then saying 'well it's just my opinion'...yeah, it's an opinion, but one that happens to be unsubstantiated and contrary to evidence.
No it's not. There is a difference between a generality and specific. No one said that a brunette could not make it as a stripper. A specific person was mentioned. Kim K, to the best of my knowledge, has never worked as a stripper. What evidence do you actually have that anyone but Kanye would buy a dance from her?
tempest666
07-06-2013, 12:50 PM
There's a lid for every pot. We may not like that particular pot, but chances are someone out there does.
charlie61
07-06-2013, 12:51 PM
This thread is getting silly. The OP posed a fair, simple question that will pull upon our individual experiences and should be answered as such.
joyluckstripclub
07-06-2013, 12:55 PM
This thread is getting silly. The OP posed a fair question.
Threadjack. Sounds like someone should start a new Topic: "Can Kim K, Bank?" or something to that effect.
TarsTone
07-06-2013, 01:11 PM
Actually, no, everyone who posts here has a right to an opinion. You have a right to post yours as well but it doesn't overrule any other opinion just because you happen to think you are right and others are wrong.This would have made sense if I had somehow implied she didn't have the right to post her views!
You're just reframing the argument here. Partly I suspect because you also don't care for the Kim K look.:)
Going back to my last metaphor, I can't just come here and say "A brunette like Eva Mendes could never make it as a dancer" and then act like people are trying to "overrule" me when they point out that strong evidence proves my opinion to be incorrect.
No it's not. There is a difference between a generality and specific. No one said that a brunette could not make it as a stripper. A specific person was mentioned. Kim K, to the best of my knowledge, has never worked as a stripper. What evidence do you actually have that anyone but Kanye would buy a dance from her?1) It's quite obvious that Kim K was being referenced here as a representative of a certain body type. And 2) As far as who would pay her other than Kanye: starting with myself, at least half the men at my office and a lot of other dudes that I've had conversations with regarding that trash of a family:)
I also base this on seeing women with Kim K body types get treated like Godesses at their clubs through the years.
yoda57us
07-06-2013, 01:40 PM
I can't just come here and say "A brunette like Eva Mendes could never make it as a dancer" and then act like people are trying to "overrule" me when they point out that strong evidence proves my opinion to be incorrect.
As I said, everyone is entitled to an opinion. That being said, your "strong evidence" is simply another facet of the opinion that you are expressing here. It doesn't make you right by default and it doesn't make any other opinions "ridiculously, laughably false"
We're done going around in circles with this. It's time to move forward with the discussion.
TarsTone
07-06-2013, 01:43 PM
Right:)
Djoser
07-07-2013, 03:35 AM
13 years experience watching spinners bank, and getting tipped accordingly. There is no prediction as to what body type will bank on any given night. But the law of averages will prevail.
Money Talks. I know where my money comes from. My bank account is not a delusion.
That being said, which type will prosper in which environment is dependent on that environment.
Honey Ryder
07-07-2013, 01:10 PM
To me a lot of this is pretty silly. I know an Urban model who is white with a huge booty and she banks in Atlanta. She set off a successful modeling career in her late 20s and made more after that. She is business savy.
I get a lot more attention then some of my shorter friends, because men really love my big real boobs.
And it doesn't really matter what a girl looks like if she can't sell....
charlie61
07-07-2013, 01:26 PM
^Yes, definitely. That's why this thread isn't titled "Will spinners always bank in every strip club?" The OP is just looking to see if that's the case for the individual clubs we've worked in.
nessagolightly
07-08-2013, 06:56 PM
I think there are two "spinners" currently at my club. One moves on stage like a fucking sloth and doesn't do anything. Her body is gorgeous. She is not a top earner. The other is a Russian spinner, kinda sassy and hood. She moves so sensually and sexual. She doesn't have much curves save for a firm perky ass. She usually banks.
I honestly think there's a pervy aspect involved because the Russian could easily pass for 15 without makeup (she's 21).
FasaCorp
07-09-2013, 07:14 PM
IMO, true spinners are the ones who can wear 6" heels and still be shorter than most of the customers. Even out-of-shape spinners seem to have an advantage over their comelier coworkers...especially when they have little-girl voices to go with their height.
You hit the nail so hard on the head with this post (as well as the one about men wanting to feel big) that it went through the board and out the other side.
TarsTone
07-09-2013, 09:14 PM
^ About this "feeling big" thing, I'm not a giant necessarily, but unless the man is at most 5'8" and under, I don't understand why they would need girls to be that tiny in order to feel big.
And as for the little girl voice, liking short women in and of itself is understandable. But I find it more than a little creepy that a dude would have a thing for girls who have the same height AND voice as the average ten-year-old!
charlie61
07-09-2013, 09:27 PM
^"Why men find spinners sexy" is a whooooooole different thread topic, my friend. And it'd be the kind of thread that gets shut down by mods within the week.
TarsTone
07-09-2013, 09:30 PM
^ I didn't initiate the "why" discussion. I'm responding to points already raised in a few posts in this thread.
charlie61
07-09-2013, 09:36 PM
^I wasn't being bitchy (sorry if that's how my tone came across). I was just sayin'.
TarsTone
07-09-2013, 09:38 PM
^ Not a problem.
simone87
07-09-2013, 10:47 PM
^maybe it has to do with the heels aspect? most of us are half a foot taller in stripper heels, so you have to super short just to have average height! guy go on about how tall i am, and when i take my shoes off they go " wow, your'e kinda short!"..a lot of them don't realize just how much height heels give you..idk, just a thought, i don't get it either haha
charlie61
07-09-2013, 10:49 PM
I think the whole thing is depressingly and disappointingly easy to understand.
charlie61
07-09-2013, 10:53 PM
It's the male equivalent to women's desire to find a big, strong, hypermasculine man to sweep them off their feet.
TBH, straight people bore the shit out of me.
But that's a personal problem. :)
simone87
07-09-2013, 10:56 PM
so its like a short straight male insecurity thing..lol
charlie61
07-09-2013, 10:59 PM
so its like a short straight male insecurity thing..lol
I'd call it more of a primal thing. This is the 21st century, but most people's core desires are stuck in the we-all-have-tails-and-fur days.
Yawn.
simone87
07-09-2013, 11:00 PM
yeesh, glad im not tall and reading this! lol but yeah i've seen some tall girls shunned by some shorter dudes even though they are gorgeous
TarsTone
07-10-2013, 05:40 AM
Setting aside that “little girl voice” thing which is frankly creepy, I don’t agree that the preference for small women is some primal urge that applies to men in general. If that were the case, it would have been reflected in the type of sex symbols seen in popular culture throughout history.
If the majority of men were attracted to short and tiny women, then most sex icons in mainstream and porn would have matched that description. Yet evidence shows they don’t. In fact you can go back as far as you like and you’ll see an overwhelming pattern proving the opposite to be true.
estafador
07-10-2013, 09:48 AM
yikes, I would have never guessed spinners were all the rage these days? Maybe because I'm black I like women with a little oomph? Or maybe because I'm a big dude (tall) that I don't want someone tiny.
AureliaC
07-10-2013, 10:17 AM
yikes, I would have never guessed spinners were all the rage these days? Maybe because I'm black I like women with a little oomph? Or maybe because I'm a big dude (tall) that I don't want someone tiny.
Eh everyone has different preferences!
In guys I like a big height difference (say a foot at least), but I prefer mid height, curvier women.
yoda57us
07-10-2013, 11:27 AM
As much as I may have preferences in body type, ethnicity and age I will say that the decision on whether I am going to spend money on a dancer or not has a lot more to do with our interaction when she approaches me than it has to do with what she looks like. As I mentioned in an earlier post, in the 21st century, dancing is primarily a sales job. A gal's sales technique-conversational skills etc-have as much to do with how much she earns as her body type does-quite possibly more. I've spent money on girls many times that were not necessarily my "type" and it was because they were convincing enough to (A) get my attention and (b) convince me that doing a private dance with them would be the best way to spend my time and money at that particular moment.
Movies, television, pinups etc are not interactive forms of entertainment. The elements that factor in to what makes a girl popular in those arenas may have some bearing in a strip club but they are only one part of the decision making process for many of us when it comes to who we decide to spend on.
2 tons of fun
07-10-2013, 10:19 PM
I reason they probably like spinners is because 95% of customers are short. I have hardly ever seen men over 6ft in any stripclub ive worked in. They have the short man complex. Whenever they stand most dancers are taller than them. I think the average stripper height is 5'3. In heels 5'9 and most customers are under or right at 5'9.
tuesdaymarie
07-10-2013, 10:29 PM
Y'all, I worked the other night and can't believe I forgot to post here about my uber-spinner find. This girl is like 4'10" tops, and she has a voice like she has been sucking helium all night (I thought girls were fucking around in the DR the first time I heard her). She looks like a baby squirrel climbing up the pole, while I'm almost as tall as it in heels. Best of all, she has huge front teeth and bulging eyes. She looks like she's nine at the oldest. I could fit her in my purse more comfortably than a teacup chihuahua.
charlie61
07-10-2013, 10:31 PM
I could fit her in my purse more comfortably than a teacup chihuahua.
Oh shit girl. Fapfapfapfapfap
Starling
07-10-2013, 10:45 PM
I thought this article was interesting, in regards to why some men love petite women:
http://onlinedatingmatches.com/why-guys-like-skinny-women/170/
Djoser
07-11-2013, 01:48 AM
I never cared about spinners at all, until I fell in love with one-but not because she was a spinner.
However, I was an instant convert, and naturally sought them out from that point on.
But right now my favorite girl is 5'10". and she is hot as hell but it's her mind I love most of all.
chloemay
07-11-2013, 06:18 AM
I thought this article was interesting, in regards to why some men love petite women:
http://onlinedatingmatches.com/why-guys-like-skinny-women/170/
If by 'interesting', you mean, 'makes one doubt the future of the human race', then I agree.
Honey Ryder
07-11-2013, 08:27 AM
I thought this article was interesting, in regards to why some men love petite women:
http://onlinedatingmatches.com/why-guys-like-skinny-women/170/My understanding is that article wouldn't really apply to spinners because it's only talking about skinny girls, but also talking about large breasts and didn't really mention height...
yoda57us
07-11-2013, 10:27 AM
My understanding is that article wouldn't really apply to spinners because it's only talking about skinny girls, but also talking about large breasts and didn't really mention height...
Agreed. A "spinner" is a girl with specific height/weight/ body frame. Just being thin isn't really all there is to it.
For the sake of the discussion here, I think we've seen enough posted about what a spinner is and is not. Opinions will vary and I'm not inclined to let the minutia bog-down what has been an interesting discussion. Let's keep things focused the original question please.
Thanks
mod
TarsTone
07-11-2013, 10:33 AM
I actually had to read the article twice to make sure it wasn't satire.
To sum it up, whoever “Karen” is, he or she lives on a planet where females can be only skinny or obese -- there is no such thing as in-between. But the fun doesn't stop there. Because in this exotic universe all the skinny girls are automatically hot and gorgeous simply by the virtue of not being fat, and most men chase after them because they’re either bald losers with low self-esteem or they're looking to protect girls that “would fit right into the couch”!
Yes, the genius actually wrote the part in quotes.
Interesting article indeed.
yoda57us
07-11-2013, 11:05 AM
^ Agreed but, seriously, it's really nothing more than a blog on a website. A dating website at that! It's an opinion piece by the author. I'm not saying that everything I take seriously has to be printed in the New York Times but I'm pretty skeptical of one-sided agendas.
simone87
07-11-2013, 11:15 AM
if you wanna go back to cavement days, the women with round, perky, full breasts and large hips, small waist are what men are supposedly "biologically attracted to". its all about reproduction, and short has nothing to do with it.. i've been looking at many articles and all they've said is that men want women who are shorter than THEM..says nothing about being short in general. look at marilyn monroe, "most beautiful woman in the world"..5'6? 5'5? i think its that spinners are a fetish niche, and a very large fetish at that..but i don't think men are hard-wired to only / or even mostly be attracted to them. my take. and its kinda saying that average height/taller girls are somehow manly and men just aren't hardwired to be attracted to them? cause i know that is totally untrue.