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Procrasturbator
11-17-2013, 12:33 PM
Not to beat a dead horse but can anyone tell me what time their Payoneer card usually loads on Sundays? It's almost 2 hours past the latest it's ever been loaded for me and I'm kind of freaking out (rent's late) so if I had some idea of when to expect it I could maybe stop hyperventilating and actually be productive haha.
euaici
11-17-2013, 01:27 PM
I understand there's a delay if the imlive payment is due on Saturdays, since this is the Sabat and the party responsible for payment respects it. So this is why it's delayed.
kortneykay
11-17-2013, 01:55 PM
I read on the forums that payout will hit within 48 hours. I also haven't gotten paid so I'm looking forward to it tomorrow.
I haven't gotten paid yet either. I'm assuming it will shop up on Monday.
Maddie67
11-17-2013, 02:53 PM
Ugh, posted on imlive forum, * "Silvia Time(ET) 11/17/2013 4:29:25 PM Subject ***To all Hosts - Payonneer transfers Message Although we have processd payment today, please be informed that due to system problems we will only be able to process Payoneer transfers tomorrow. We apologize for any inconvenience cause. Your patience is much appreciated."
Procrasturbator
11-17-2013, 04:12 PM
I am so irritated right now. I've been checking the payment forum ALL DAY for any sign of someone getting paid and CS was just ignoring specific questions and giving the same canned response. If it's a "system problem" why couldn't they just say that from the start? Their 70% is for them to keep things running relatively smoothly. IDK about anyone else but I don't feel comfortable working there until I get paid. :/
Holly_xoxo
11-17-2013, 08:59 PM
I put a few days in on there because I thought I'd give it another shot and maybe use it as a back up site. It went pretty well but now I still don't have my money? I just want that and I'll go back to ignoring the site. Absolutely ridiculous how they handle business over there.
BANHammerGoddess
11-17-2013, 09:22 PM
IMLive sent it (or it shows as sent on their website.)
Fuck IMLive. Seriously. They get their stupid fees from thousands of cam girls who aren't Jewish (if that's the reason why they didn't post yesterday.) Fucking post my money you stupid fucking system!
edited once I found out it was IMLive doing the hold up and not payoneer.
kortneykay
11-17-2013, 09:41 PM
At least it's not the 1st this time. There would be a riot!
Is this a Payoneer issue or an IMLive issue?
TheBrownFox
11-18-2013, 07:33 AM
I am so irritated right now. I've been checking the payment forum ALL DAY for any sign of someone getting paid and CS was just ignoring specific questions and giving the same canned response. If it's a "system problem" why couldn't they just say that from the start? Their 70% is for them to keep things running relatively smoothly. IDK about anyone else but I don't feel comfortable working there until I get paid. :/
There's been times when I didn't even get the notification e-mail telling me that my Payoneer card's been loaded with an ImLive payment. That can be a pain having to keep checking your account and thinking "Is it there yet?"
I never have payment issues on MFC. Every payday I get my MFC payment on my card before it's even 5 AM EST.
laurielegs
11-18-2013, 09:32 AM
IMLive sent it (or it shows as sent on their website.)
Fuck Payoneer. Seriously. They get their stupid fees from thousands of cam girls who aren't Jewish (if that's the reason why they didn't post yesterday.) Fucking post my money you stupid fucking paysystem!
Payoneer processes payments on Saturdays.
ImLive are the ones who do not.
Procrasturbator
11-18-2013, 10:06 AM
Good news! Payments are coming through, finally. :) I got mine about 40 minutes ago.
TheBrownFox
11-18-2013, 01:36 PM
Yeah, mine came through a while ago while I was on the bus. I think it said it was loaded at around 11:40 AM EST.
BANHammerGoddess
11-18-2013, 04:48 PM
yay, got mine too.
Now I'm trying to figure out how to get it out with the least amount of fees. Do they limit it to $400 per withdrawal at an atm? because that's $8/pop (five from payoneer I think and 3 from the bank.)
what's the fee for going to a grocery store and getting groceries, using it as a debit card and taking out as much as possible?
Procrasturbator
11-19-2013, 01:44 AM
^ Payoneer's ATM withdrawal fee is $3.15. I've been getting some weird fees lately though... Sometimes I'll get charged the "up to" 3% foreign transaction fee when I go to an ATM (which it didn't do before, only with cash back), sometimes I'll get charged the $3.15 fee when I use cash back, etc. But looking through my transaction history it seems that sometimes I haven't been charged an ATM fee when I used the ATM so maybe it's evening itself out, IDK.
But anyway, here's how much everything's supposed to cost:
-- Getting cash back at the store is supposed to cost "up to" 3%
-- Withdrawing at an ATM is supposed to cost $3.15 + the bank's ATM fee. I used to use the ATMs at Walmart a lot, as the fee is only $1.50 (so $4.65 total) and you can get your money out to the dollar instead of only twenties.
-- There's a daily cash withdrawal limit of $2500 but obviously most ATMs will limit that further.
Glasses
11-19-2013, 04:46 AM
I think the fees also depend on where did you sign up for payoneer. I signed up with LJ and my atm fee is 2.75$. I saw someone had card activation fee as well, I didn't have that either cause LJ paid for that etc.
laurielegs
11-19-2013, 05:07 AM
You folks should really take advantage of Payoneer direct deposit through ImLive. It's only a $3 flat rate fee per deposit and you won't have to pay those cross-border or ATM fees. The Payoneer fees were eating a huge chunk of my pay.
Now it's $3 and that's all I am charged, and I get my money 2 days after it's sent, directly to my bank. Well worth waiting 2 extra days.
Snowy0Star
11-19-2013, 08:57 AM
i pull money out all the time when i go food shopping and i never have fees for that. i go food shopping and ask for 100$ chash back to pay my part of the household and the only thing has shows up on my card is the food.
im live is the lowest load fee site its $3 for instant pay and all other cam sites ive worked with ask for $5 and and load fee where u wait a few days is FREE other sites charge $2 or $3 i forgot because i have everything set for auto instant load for $5 so i never see that screen that anymore i just get the email that says my cards has been loaded and i dont get the ones that say i have received money from so so anymore
VeteranCamModel
11-19-2013, 12:55 PM
Thank for the info regarding direct deposit you guys- much appreciated! How's traffic been lately? I haven't been on for a short while... best wishes to everyone muahhhhhhhhhhh
euaici
11-20-2013, 06:43 PM
about phone again - isn't it against the site rules to ask the guys for their number so you can call them?
Laurie how do you get get the direct deposit option?
laurielegs
11-20-2013, 07:47 PM
Laurie how do you get get the direct deposit option?
Just email Payoneer support and get it set up through them, (I think i had to give them a statement or voided check copy with acct. and routing #) then when ImLive sends the payment Payoneer will deposit to your bank for a $3 fee instead of to the card.
Maddie67
11-21-2013, 01:05 AM
about phone again - isn't it against the site rules to ask the guys for their number so you can call them? Though it says no outside contact in their terms of service, they have been OK with us getting their phone numbers to call them during video chat.
VeteranCamModel
11-21-2013, 06:57 AM
Not at all. You are allowed to offer phone as part of your service. Dial *67 before their number to block your number. I actually love phone and Id say half my guys ask me to call them during the show. It's more engaging than just the mic. I think it makes them feel special. You can't ask them for their personal email and other things like that, but phone is definately allowed
kittykrane
11-22-2013, 06:28 AM
Grrrrr..........their fetish shots approval is BS...most of what they want for the pics is seldom what the guys actually ask for!!!! Take foot fetish for example...they suggest "polish, ankle bracelet, toe rings" Seriously? !!!!! Foot guys get turned on by BARE FEET, the soles, footjobs, what color toes you have, seldom the jewelry angle......So I take a great pic of myself polishing my toes..they decline it saying it doesn't capture the fetish!!!!! WTF????? Same for cuckold....Most of those guys want to hear about you liking big cock, creampies, BBC, etc......not lock them up in chastity (which falls more under domination and orgasm denial if you ask me) They decline my awesome pic for that too...I wrote them, not that I will hear back, but I said suggested they actually get familiar with these fetishes and what MOST Men actually want in those shows..
VeteranCamModel
11-22-2013, 02:47 PM
MY pictures were rejected too lol. As with any new feature, they have to get familiar themselves, I think, with approving which snapshots. Crazy though huh? I was like what?!? lol I'm not stressing over it. I will wait til the "kinks" are worked out til I submit again lol Glad I'm not the only one who had this problem. Peace to you and much success!
euaici
11-22-2013, 03:39 PM
I also had issues with them, and they did not want to approve the snapshots - they say they are not good enough quality. I think they want studio shots or something.
Maddie67
11-23-2013, 10:51 AM
I also had issues with them, and they did not want to approve the snapshots - they say they are not good enough quality. I think they want studio shots or something. Add in my rejection notices as well. Though I dont think its necessarily studio shots they are after, (very few of my pics were accepted and all my pics are self shot), I do not know why many were rejected. All I got was email saying it didnt fit the fetish.....and...I just dont know how Im supposed to take a photo of, for example, me cuckolding somebody when I work in girl alone, though I do tons of these types of shows, (mostly talking), take a picture of the words? Like Vet CamGirl said, hopefully they will get this one figured out but in meantime, hey, I still appear on the pages of IML for the individual fetishes I chose, rejected photo or not, soooo...
Snowy0Star
11-23-2013, 11:18 AM
this whole fetish thing seems like all the issues you get over at live jasmine (both sites cater to non English/European modesl) they just dont understand ANYTHING it seems. porn is not all about glamour and being cute and pretty and looking like a fucking barbie doll and .99 per min .
toe rings ankle bracelets? like seriously the site kinda lost even more credibility for me they dont seem to do their research and want to run their camsite in a lala land of how they want things to be not how the real world works. for me the site was only good for me during my trail period when i was at .98 per min i think the guys do the same thing they do on live jasmin they find the new fish for the cheap rates use her up then throw her back into the sea and if she dosent look cute in a french maid dress that barely covers anything thats a size 0 they beg and demand she does everything for free or expect her to talk for free all day and keep her going by saying they'll go pvt when they 'get to know her better'. and never plan on going pvt because theyre cheap rude demanding assholes .
BlueBunny
11-23-2013, 01:58 PM
I was going to say, is it normal to spend about 2 hours in free chat and only get 2 very short privates in that time on iml? (between 2am and 5 am EST). I even used the hotspot option. I am in the shy girl category..should I move to a regular category? I am working on my 120 free chat hours and it's such a draining process. I'm 5 hours into it so far. Do people with money go straight to girls who broadcast privately and not free chat? Anyway, the promise of "no free chat" eventually is the only thing that keeps me going. I could really see myself splitting iml/aw and cams in nude down the line! lol All I get are guys looking for a bride/gf. I am not putting much effort into "converting" anyone at this point, so it's going to be a lot of hours sitting there doing nothing I suppose. Just wondering if it's worth the effort, but I guess I'll keep doing it in the background while I'm working the only site that does bring me some money.
JenniferNorth
11-23-2013, 02:08 PM
Try the regular girl section-that's where I have had luck. Although I have to say, I will hustle, and hustle HARD on I'm Live and I feel it is better to splitcam or something with that site. Guys are horrible cheapos there-very much so. Not to say you won't make money, it just won't be the "easy" money I've made on some other cam sites.
But yes change it up, and maybe if you offer fetishes too? And try different hours, different days? I noticed that too late at night and I wasn't making $$ on there.
BlueBunny
11-23-2013, 02:28 PM
Thank you JenniferNorth. I have asked support to put me in the regular category because I couldn't find it anywhere in my profile to do it myself. I am really not that shy anymore lol but iml was one of the first accounts I opened way back before I started camming and it remained under the shy category. I am definitely still working on my hours. I knew it probably wouldn't be busy at night, but I couldn't sleep so I figured I'd get some hours out of the way while I catch up with CC gossip.
As for fetishes.. are there any books or websites for newbies to learn about the more popular ones? Every time I try to google stuff like JOI or SPH I just get porn sites with videos, and I really hate watching porn for some reason. lol Yeah I have a basic idea of them, but I'm not confident enough to venture there yet. I feel like I have more learning to do. English is not my first language so being creative on the spot with verbal dirty entertainment is very hard for me. I can't even begin to understand the psychology behind JOI. I'll be darned if anyone tells me how to cum.. no way jose I like doing my own thing in my life. lol
I started before the free chat was mandatory and I only do it once in a blue moon. My advice is to hang in until you finish your free chat. I sit in text chat only and wait for shows. I will type to people to answer questions and to entice a little like one vague sentence. I won't say what I will do in the show but I'll type something like " you probably won't last a minute." I respond to fantasies if it gets slow.
I charge 4.80 or 3.80 I am a BBW and I average around 15-25 an hour but I do not work a regular schedule. I think if I did and used the vids I would make a bit more. I'm going to try it and report back next month.
I left the site for about a year so I lost all my regulars so I'm starting over in some ways.
JenniferNorth
11-23-2013, 02:45 PM
Oh gosh...someone chime in with a link, I thought there was a place that talked about various fetishes but I cannot remember it?
Bluebunny-
I've found for JOI they like you to have a dildo or vibe, and often I've been asked to place it between my legs like it's my OWN penis, and give instructions while they see you going fast/slow whatever.
For SPH it often varies, a lot of the guys I got were also sissy boys and wanted me to make fun of their cocks, laugh about the size, compare them to my pinky or something like that. It varies on the guy. I'll usually ask in a sexy voice "are you a sissy boy" etc etc during free chat/paid chat. Usually they will ask/get a feel before they take you pvt, but feel free to ask away during pvt too.
euaici
11-23-2013, 02:46 PM
this whole fetish thing seems like all the issues you get over at live jasmine (both sites cater to non English/European modesl) they just dont understand ANYTHING it seems. porn is not all about glamour and being cute and pretty and looking like a fucking barbie doll and .99 per min .
toe rings ankle bracelets? like seriously the site kinda lost even more credibility for me they dont seem to do their research and want to run their camsite in a lala land of how they want things to be not how the real world works. for me the site was only good for me during my trail period when i was at .98 per min i think the guys do the same thing they do on live jasmin they find the new fish for the cheap rates use her up then throw her back into the sea and if she dosent look cute in a french maid dress that barely covers anything thats a size 0 they beg and demand she does everything for free or expect her to talk for free all day and keep her going by saying they'll go pvt when they 'get to know her better'. and never plan on going pvt because theyre cheap rude demanding assholes .
I don't think the issue is what kind of models the site caters too, it's what kind of member it advertises to
also, in this fierce competition between sites, they need something to set themselves apart through, so they chose a certain image
it is true that many of the LJ custies are from European countries, so they have a different image of what they want in a girl. Also, these girls from the Eastern Europe, have a different mentality than the American girls, in more ways than one.
Firstly, if the minimum wage is 1.5 $ per hour, it's logical they can make more by just staying at 0.99.
Second, even well paid jobs are paid bad. In my country, the average hourly wage is 3 $ per hour. That is, the salary for a well qualified, experienced, college educated person. Somebody who speaks 1 or 2 languages, besides their native tongue, at a very good level. Somebody who could be a professor, a legal advisor, a physician. And if they work for the state, many times they can get their salaries 2 months after the due date.
Third, it's hard to find even those jobs now, like everywhere.
Fourth, the studios are very powerful in this part of the world, and they employ lots of girls and model all of them on a certain image, no matter the girls' wishes. Plus, they employ uneducated girls. I have nothing against that, just an uneducated person does not know a foreign language - so she has to attract people any other way she can. And even when they learn some words, they have no idea of cultural differences
Fifth, studios don't tel you shit about what to do, they just put you into a room and tell u, the sleeziest u act, the more money u make. That's it.
6th, the local forums on the subject are owned by studio owners, and they are very active there, so they say many misleading things. there are independent models speaking, but you really have to sift through things, and ...well, not everybody is able to do it. I learned soooooo much from SW, that it can't compare.
7th, every site has some kind of recipe for success - probably there are very few extraordinary performers who can really bank on any site, but the rest of us normal gals have to find what works for us. Of course it's alays easier if you look gorgeous, are outgoing and have the right accent. If not, we play the hand we are dealt.
8th - yes, the accent is a thing. Very many guys just won't pay higher if you sound eastern european - no matter how good you write or how you look or what you do. that's life.
I think there could be more, but i'm not writing a book so...
VeteranCamModel
11-23-2013, 03:22 PM
when I was new and wanted to know more about fetishes. I didnt google the actual fetish, instead i googled things like, fetish mistress, fetish, not the actual description, ya know? And type in fetish stories, or mistress stories. Hope that helps you out a little bit.
Peace
AliceFun
11-23-2013, 09:31 PM
What is up with Gold status members on ImLive that come into text chat and try to get me talking about things but they dont wanna pvt actually or if they come pvt they use the 20 secs or 1-2 min and leave then? (i work paid chat not free chat).
I am puzzled cause they have the gold status for a reason (they spent good money on site) but then use this status to freeload in hope they get attention from models that look up their status and think they will come pvt to spent good money on them? That's how i see it here. Thoughts? Thanks!
Snowy0Star
11-23-2013, 09:35 PM
What is up with Gold status members on ImLive that come into text chat and try to get me talking about things but they dont wanna pvt actually or if they come pvt they use the 20 secs or 1-2 min and leave then? (i work paid chat not free chat).
I am puzzled cause they have the gold status for a reason (they spent good money on site) but then use this status to freeload in hope they get attention from models that look up their status and think they will come pvt to spent good money on them? That's how i see it here. Thoughts? Thanks!
well judging how guys with credits like to wave a carrot in ur face about 'getting to know you then ill take u pvt if i like you' i'm guessing its the same thing they had a lot money at one point then it got too expensive for them to keep paying and now just throw around their status to toy with us.
My thoughts are they will spend if you let them know the status does not impress you. If they try that I want to know what you're about crap I tell them read my profile and comeback, and I don't say another word to them until they get a show. I don't care how much a guy spends on the site I care how much he spends on me.
I treat them all the same. You can ask basic questions to make sure we are compatible for a show, maybe 3 and by then I can suss out if you are for real or not. The ones who are playing games get ignored after the 3 questions, and those who are real get a tiny bit more attention and usually go private. To be honest I find most guys there who want private just go. I don't pay most of the customers any attention and it works for me.As soon as I see they just want to talk I start doing something else until another guy comes into the room. If they talk too much I kick them.
What is up with Gold status members on ImLive that come into text chat and try to get me talking about things but they dont wanna pvt actually or if they come pvt they use the 20 secs or 1-2 min and leave then? (i work paid chat not free chat).
I am puzzled cause they have the gold status for a reason (they spent good money on site) but then use this status to freeload in hope they get attention from models that look up their status and think they will come pvt to spent good money on them? That's how i see it here. Thoughts? Thanks!
BlueBunny
11-24-2013, 12:46 AM
I never banned or kicked anyone in a year of sporadic camming. I've banned a few since last week when I started iml. lol It seems my category updated so I'll give it another try after I get bored with SM tomorrow. I am having a really hard time ignoring these guys that just want to talk. IDK if I should tell them something mean to get them to shut up, or kick them. They don't shut up if I just ignore the room and do something else on the computer. I've started telling the ones looking for a wife that I will only marry for money, then I eventually kick them when I get fedup with their bs. lol
BANHammerGoddess
11-24-2013, 01:36 AM
I love banning people. works for me and keeps my happiness level higher.
kittykrane
11-24-2013, 07:04 AM
I was shocked that they have fetish categories for "fisting" and "watersports".. when I thought those were off-limits in the performer agreement. LOL..what a circus!
kortneykay
11-24-2013, 07:58 AM
Ladies, how do you ban IML guys? I only see the kicking option. The sherif's office I don't even feel like filling all that info out. Is there even a ban button?
Procrasturbator
11-24-2013, 08:01 AM
^ On the right (under "Control Panel") there's a button that says "Block Specific Guest". You can type or paste their name and block them that way. There might be an easier way, IDK, but that's how I've always done it.
kortneykay
11-24-2013, 08:02 AM
Thanks bb!
Maddie67
11-24-2013, 04:59 PM
well judging how guys with credits like to wave a carrot in ur face about 'getting to you then ill take u pvt if i like you' i'm guessing its the same thing they had a lot money at one point then it got too expensive for them to keep paying and now just throw around their status to toy with us. They get to be Gold and VIP by being cheap too. They get points built up by buying discount club memberships and spending their real credits in happy hour. Some VIPs are the cheapest of them all. Status and (p) by the name dont get nothing extra out of meeee!
kortneykay
11-24-2013, 11:24 PM
I agree! I had several gold guys come in and chat and one in particular kept coming in and complimenting and I couldn't block people for shit. I typed in the name, then kicked and they just came right back in and annoyed the shit out of me. This douche kept talking the whole time but wouldn't budge in pvt. So yes, their "status" means nothing to me unless they meet me in my private. I hope this week is good because pay day will be on Monday the 2nd and I'm gonna need IML to work well for me these next few days.
euaici
11-24-2013, 11:33 PM
you also have the option to block just their text while in free - just click on the member's name and then u have a lil icon there with block text. it's really fun to use on idiots
BlueBunny
11-24-2013, 11:48 PM
I may have to try that option euaici and make their text invisible. Maybe that might make it easier to ignore their presence.