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apryll11
03-10-2014, 05:51 PM
Did you email Silvia or customer service in general regarding this incident? I ask because thats not the way 30/60 min sessions are supposed to work, and not the way it has worked in the entire time I have been there, since 2002. They buy the time, get the discount. If they leave and dont come back within the time, and you dont log out during the time, they lose it. Unless something changed. Is it possible the guy bought months worth of paid discount club and got a bunch of free time with you, or was a system glitch? I hope they didnt change something and not inform us...
Really? O fuck, I will be asking now. No that's kind of impossible for me, I don't have discount club,actually I never did, I saw that as money trap from the gate. It was from a regular, he bought a block in Dec but he's in Afghanistan,and at the time his internet was very shitty, he couldn't even see my pics so that way the session got stopped. Maybe he complained about it but then again I would have got a charge back, pretty fucked up if I had to work off a charge back. I hate system glitches
Thanks Maddie, Iam gonna find out right now

apryll11
03-10-2014, 06:51 PM
It probably just has to do with different personality types, though... it used to drive me crazy how guys on SM would constantly pop in and out but for many I'm sure that's easier than having them stick around for forever like they often do on IML.
I agree with that. I hate it when they stay forever and dont talk. The only place you are welcome not to talk is in private. I really had to do some work on myself to not kick them out.

Snowy0Star
03-10-2014, 09:10 PM
I agree with that. I hate it when they stay forever and dont talk. The only place you are welcome not to talk is in private. I really had to do some work on myself to not kick them out.

i dunno i do (not just on imlive in genral)i always think theyre jacking off what else would they be doing with their hands if theyre not talking to u or clicking the pvt button?

Procrasturbator
03-10-2014, 09:21 PM
I think a lot of guys just like to watch. Just like any guys, some eventually pay, some don't... but I've had too many quiet guys eventually take me pvt to kick all of them out. Plus that would be so much effort lol, I'd be kicking out hundreds of guys a day. To get me to stop what I'm doing and disconnect or ban a guy they have to really get on my nerves, like insult me, incessantly beg me for freebies, or antagonize the other customers.

The quiet guys only bother me when no one is talking. I'll never understand how I can have 50+ people in my room just staring at me when I'm not even doing anything. Makes me feel like I'm in a zoo.

Maddie67
03-10-2014, 09:54 PM
I'll never understand how I can have 50+ people in my room just staring at me when I'm not even doing anything. Makes me feel like I'm in a zoo. Makes me feel like I am in a fishbowl. Kudos to all of you who can do flc and keep from going insane!

VeteranCamModel
03-11-2014, 03:32 AM
LOL at zoo and fishbowl. But TRUE! Set up on display for all to see like mannequin, it's pretty to look at, nice accessories, maybe I will try it on?.... OMGosh wait, it moved, I'm gonna wait and see what else it does LOL open BB?

Snowy0Star
03-11-2014, 03:35 AM
just in case anyone wants to know the earliest to log on id say around 6:30 EST ive been logged into imlive and all bbw since 1AM EST and not a peep but around 6:20 i started getting shows ive done two so far

im not in free chat btw im in pvt only mode

tropo
03-11-2014, 04:15 AM
I think a lot of guys just like to watch. Just like any guys, some eventually pay, some don't... but I've had too many quiet guys eventually take me pvt to kick all of them out. Plus that would be so much effort lol, I'd be kicking out hundreds of guys a day. To get me to stop what I'm doing and disconnect or ban a guy they have to really get on my nerves, like insult me, incessantly beg me for freebies, or antagonize the other customers.

The quiet guys only bother me when no one is talking. I'll never understand how I can have 50+ people in my room just staring at me when I'm not even doing anything. Makes me feel like I'm in a zoo.

The free chatters won't bother you nearly so much if you split your attention to 2 or 3 sites (even 4 or 5). It's unlikely you'll even notice them. Most guys who are serious about privates are not into free chatting anyway.

You need to just learn to ignore them. Getting upset and banning people is just going to hurt your performance in the long run as it's putting you in a negative frame of mind. I rarely ban people. Nasty free chatters can make you privates as the nice guys decide they want to rescue you and take you private.

Try working on a "freecam" site for awhile. You could have a 1000 guys watching and no one tipping - this is quite common for me on Chaturbate. It's a good lesson in patience though... mind you they're not going to see anything unless they tip, so it's a standoff. They won't tip because they see nothing and you don't do anything because they're not tipping. I find free sites pretty frustrating and they don't split well with regular sites.

VeteranCamModel
03-12-2014, 12:32 PM
ordinary people doing extraordinary things....

JenniferNorth
03-12-2014, 12:34 PM
Topo, that is total inspiration for me to splitcam again!!! Thank you bb!

apryll11
03-12-2014, 04:29 PM
I find free sites pretty frustrating and they don't split well with regular sites.

Whats a regular site?

Snowy0Star
03-12-2014, 04:41 PM
Whats a regular site?

i think she means free sites as in token sites and regular sites as in pvt only/ pay per min sites witch is true for me as well.

JaneBurgess
03-12-2014, 04:45 PM
What do you all charge on here? I charge $4.80 but they act like I am charging a million dollars. I don't want to charge super low because I only get 35 percent.

Procrasturbator
03-12-2014, 04:53 PM
I charge 3.80. They complain occasionally but they pay. I had no luck at 4.80.

RaeRae
03-12-2014, 04:54 PM
Depending on how much I'm hating being on there, I range from 3.80 to 5.80. Generally though I'm at 3.80 when I'm not annoyed with the site.

TheBrownFox
03-12-2014, 05:36 PM
What do you all charge on here? I charge $4.80 but they act like I am charging a million dollars. I don't want to charge super low because I only get 35 percent.
I charge 4.80.

apryll11
03-12-2014, 05:45 PM
I use to charge 5.80, and then I download win8.1 ( bad idea, just because you update your software doesn't mean the site did), caused my cam to do moment lag or freezes. So I put myself down to 4.80.
No one ever complains but I do get a lot of request for discount codes from guys who never done a private with me.
If you do the discount club and codes, just remind them or try to sell them on the fact that your rate is cheaper once they Join or when they do blocks

sophiebells.25
03-12-2014, 06:41 PM
Does Streamate have chargebacks? I have never ran into that problem as a cam girl? And do you have to fill taxs with them after a certain amount of money , the regular $600 rule?

Any phone sex legit companies and how to get started?

Any other good websites like streamate , I have found that its the most developed and easy to use and I have always gotten a check for the work I have done.

Snowy0Star
03-12-2014, 07:06 PM
Does Streamate have chargebacks? I have never ran into that problem as a cam girl? And do you have to fill taxs with them after a certain amount of money , the regular $600 rule?

Any phone sex legit companies and how to get started?

Any other good websites like streamate , I have found that its the most developed and easy to use and I have always gotten a check for the work I have done.

streammate doesnt do charge backs but this is a thread for another site

Snowy0Star
03-12-2014, 07:07 PM
What do you all charge on here? I charge $4.80 but they act like I am charging a million dollars. I don't want to charge super low because I only get 35 percent.

i charge 3.80 im fine with that for now may raise it up to 4.80 sometime down the line tho

Procrasturbator
03-12-2014, 07:22 PM
Does Streamate have chargebacks? I have never ran into that problem as a cam girl? And do you have to fill taxs with them after a certain amount of money , the regular $600 rule?

Any phone sex legit companies and how to get started?

Any other good websites like streamate , I have found that its the most developed and easy to use and I have always gotten a check for the work I have done.

No, Streamate doesn't do chargebacks. They send you a 1099 in January if you earned over $600 the previous year. This is the ImLive thread, which IMO is the most comparable to Streamate and very rarely has chargebacks. As far as payouts go I actually prefer IML because they pay out the day after the pay period ends, so if you work til 12 AM EST on the 15th you'll get paid on the 16th, unless it's a Saturday or the very rare occasion that they take an extra day.

apryll11
03-12-2014, 07:28 PM
No, Streamate doesn't do chargebacks. They send you a 1099 in January if you earned over $600 the previous year. This is the ImLive thread, which IMO is the most comparable to Streamate and very rarely has chargebacks. As far as payouts go I actually prefer IML because they pay out the day after the pay period ends, so if you work til 12 AM EST on the 15th you'll get paid on the 16th, unless it's a Saturday or the very rare occasion that they take an extra day.
Be really nice if they added a daily pay option.

Procrasturbator
03-12-2014, 07:42 PM
There actually is daily pay available through BoleynModels (http://models.katyboleyn.com/), however IML makes you delete your whole account and start over.

That's waaaay too scary for me right now but I just signed up for another site, if I can get a steady income through that I might try starting over on IML. My issue is placement and customers... I don't want my regs to think I disappeared and have to start all over. If IML would let us transfer accounts (or even just favorites) I would do it today.

RaeRae
03-12-2014, 07:49 PM
Well, if you decide to join BoleynModels, could you do something like send out a mass email using their mailing list system before deleting that account to let them know you are changing your account name and to find you under your new one?

Procrasturbator
03-12-2014, 07:52 PM
That's what I was thinking. Mass email + PMs to anyone important who's messaged me before + online messages to my top 5 or 10 spenders? (Lmao can you tell I've given this some thought?) I'd also probably use a similar name and maybe even the same profile photo. Maybe once this pay period ends. Or maybe months from now, lol IDEK. Heavy stuff.

tropo
03-12-2014, 08:04 PM
i think she means free sites as in token sites and regular sites as in pvt only/ pay per min sites witch is true for me as well.

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. When I split with a "free" site (eg Chaturbate, Cam4) as soon as you go private on another site you lose all your momentum and tippers. The guys are waiting for the next goal - and then you're offline doing a private somewhere else. The guys who have tipped towards the goal feel cheated.

I can have lucky nights, but generally it's a waste of bandwidth.

tropo
03-12-2014, 08:14 PM
Hey girls, how long does it take to get approved on ImLive? I submitted all my documents a couple of days ago.

Another question too if I may... I see they have a system where you can charge a higher rate when your ratings go up. How long could it take to get to the 2.80 rate or higher? I really don't want to work for long at the 1.98 rate when being paid 30%. That would be a waste of time. Just to give you an idea, my SM rating is 5.0 stars.

Procrasturbator
03-12-2014, 08:18 PM
It was a while ago but I think it took a few days for me. However I'm in Girl Alone, another performer on here applied for the pornstar category and it took weeks IIRC.

Your rating should go up to 5 stars pretty quickly, I was able to go up to 5.80 as soon as I finished the 90 minute promo period. I think they start you off with a few 4 star ratings anyway.

apryll11
03-12-2014, 08:26 PM
There actually is daily pay available through BoleynModels (http://models.katyboleyn.com/), however IML makes you delete your whole account and start over.

That's waaaay too scary for me right now but I just signed up for another site, if I can get a steady income through that I might try starting over on IML. My issue is placement and customers... I don't want my regs to think I disappeared and have to start all over. If IML would let us transfer accounts (or even just favorites) I would do it today.

O'no. That just seems so scary. I just picture myself only making 20% because I joined a studio. Living in fear of the "Bitch you only worked 15 hours this week, you need to work blah blah blah"
I cant handle that, lol. And start over, is that the .99 cent per min start over?
I would like when you go to change your payout method, the option was there. You'd pay a little 5 dollar fee, the only 3rd party source is payoneer. No one has to cancel aything.

apryll11
03-12-2014, 08:39 PM
Hey girls, how long does it take to get approved on ImLive? I submitted all my documents a couple of days ago.

Another question too if I may... I see they have a system where you can charge a higher rate when your ratings go up. How long could it take to get to the 2.80 rate or higher? I really don't want to work for long at the 1.98 rate when being paid 30%. That would be a waste of time. Just to give you an idea, my SM rating is 5.0 stars.

For me, it was a month but that was because I wasn't making the pictures the size they wanted and it just took me that long to realized. But once I did re size them, I got approved the same day, like hours after I sent them. They probably got tired of looking at my face at this point.

After the 90 min paid chat, you can change your price as long as you've been rated more then one star. If no one rates you or you just get 1 star the highest you can go is 1.98. Just ask the guys to rate you once your in private, Do not leave it up to them because I regulars who have yet to rate me.

JaneBurgess
03-12-2014, 09:18 PM
I have some luck but not much. I might change what I do in shows and try the $3.80 and see what happens.


I charge 3.80. They complain occasionally but they pay. I had no luck at 4.80.

tropo
03-12-2014, 09:58 PM
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tropo
03-12-2014, 09:59 PM
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tropo
03-12-2014, 10:00 PM
I have some luck but not much. I might change what I do in shows and try the $3.80 and see what happens.

You hit the nail on the head. If you go over the sweet spot you rely on luck to make your daily goals.

I don't have the luxury of waiting for the odd big spender as I have daily goals to meet (I support my family in the Philippines with the proceeds from camming)... so I never stop until I reach my absolute minimum goal of $200. Mostly I do better, but that's my goal. At the end of the day money in the bank is what's important. It's not a pastime or hobby for me.

I'm really looking forward to giving ImLIve a go.

JaneBurgess
03-12-2014, 10:27 PM
Me too. I would rather charge less and make good money than sit all day and hope a whale comes on.



You hit the nail on the head. If you go over the sweet spot you rely on luck to make your daily goals.

I don't have the luxury of waiting for the odd big spender as I have daily goals to meet (I support my family in the Philippines with the proceeds from camming)... so I never stop until I reach my absolute minimum goal of $200. Mostly I do better, but that's my goal. At the end of the day money in the bank is what's important. It's not a pastime or hobby for me.

I'm really looking forward to giving ImLIve a go.

JenniferNorth
03-13-2014, 01:33 PM
I charge 4.80 and make decent money there. I also do fan club, make vids of my private sessions, do the live viewer etc etc. I think one of the girls put it this way-there are two types of men on IML. Those who take you pvt right away and those who waste time. Guess which one I cater to. I have to agree with that, either we will go pvt right away or they just sit there. Upping my rates helped to cut out the jokers...because when I was 3.80 I had a lot of time wasters, one minute men, cheap, rude guys and so on, and even MORE when I was lower than that. Just try and see what works for you!

VeteranCamModel
03-13-2014, 01:54 PM
did you get approved yet? as soon as you finish the .98 min, you go to 1 98 min but you can log off and change your rate right then, as high as 5 80 min, for 5 star hosts. best wishes, esp if you havent started yet, sorry, my mind is foggy today lol muahhhh be blessed and favored !

cherryblossomsinspring
03-13-2014, 02:23 PM
Referral Program Update: I called twice and both the customer service people were rude and told me that my customer did not sign up with the referral code. Anyway, I emailed them back again and told them that I signed up as a customer myself and my referral code rerouted and suddenly I got this message so we shall see. I think they definitely know what's going on because they both got defensive saying that my custy must have found them on google. lol. Yeah, right. Here is the 2nd response I received.

Thank you for contacting ImLive Customer Service.

Your inquiry has been received. We can assure you that the service we provide our hosts is of utmost importance to us; we are therefore now looking into the matter. Please allow up to 48 hours for a response.

We appreciate your patience and cooperation.

Please do not hesitate to contact us should you require any further assistance.

Sounds like they are again scamming money from models. So you refer members so they can make money off of them and still pay that shit 30% payout .

tropo
03-13-2014, 07:53 PM
did you get approved yet? as soon as you finish the .98 min, you go to 1 98 min but you can log off and change your rate right then, as high as 5 80 min, for 5 star hosts. best wishes, esp if you havent started yet, sorry, my mind is foggy today lol muahhhh be blessed and favored !

Still waiting......

JaneBurgess
03-13-2014, 08:31 PM
I tried $3.80 today and went back to $4.80. It was only assclowns wanting your house for that rate. No thank you dickwads. I will use this as a second site.



I charge 4.80 and make decent money there. I also do fan club, make vids of my private sessions, do the live viewer etc etc. I think one of the girls put it this way-there are two types of men on IML. Those who take you pvt right away and those who waste time. Guess which one I cater to. I have to agree with that, either we will go pvt right away or they just sit there. Upping my rates helped to cut out the jokers...because when I was 3.80 I had a lot of time wasters, one minute men, cheap, rude guys and so on, and even MORE when I was lower than that. Just try and see what works for you!

Maddie67
03-13-2014, 10:50 PM
What do you all charge on here? I charge $4.80 but they act like I am charging a million dollars. I don't want to charge super low because I only get 35 percent. 4.8 (no discount club) when I have more time to be online, 3.8 if I have less time to be online. yes, i get the cheaper asshole types at 3.8, but it just has worked out better for me when I have limited time to dedicate.

tropo
03-13-2014, 11:02 PM
LOL... big spenders can be assholes too - but they get a pass.

For me, anyone spending money is a good guy. It all adds up. A small spender today could be a big spender coming back with a crush the next day.

Snowy0Star
03-14-2014, 01:33 AM
LOL... big spenders can be assholes too - but they get a pass.

For me, anyone spending money is a good guy. It all adds up. A small spender today could be a big spender coming back with a crush the next day.

u probably say it because ur new... a guy who acts like a dick the first time he meets u is going to be a dick the second time and the third etc etc ull learn ....

tropo
03-14-2014, 02:10 AM
^^ Not new at all - started over 8 years ago. Don't let my join date on here confuse you.

I've probably had more dicks in my room than all of you. You'd be horrified to see how customers treat Asian cam models... they treat us like dirt. I've read some stories on here about dicks - they're all tame compared to what I've put up with over the years.

I'll get more dicks on an Asian site in an hour that I'll get on SM in a week.

The point really is not to react to idiots in your room. Don't take it personally. Even the dicks can be big spenders. Don't let the ego get in the way - because that's letting them win. The easiest way to handle dicks is to totally ignore them. If you react to them or ban them, they're find ways to come back and bother you again. Change IP, name, account - it's all quite easy for trouble makers.

I had a superdick on AW the other night who spent 130 GBP (over $200).

TheBrownFox
03-14-2014, 11:56 AM
@tropo: Ignoring the dickheads in your room - without banning them - may work for you and for other models, but in my room if you're a dick you're getting banned. Miserable fucks who have nothing better to do than to make trouble in a model's room are not welcome in my chat. It's really not hard to act like a civilized human being. I'm also not giving that person the satisfaction of seeing any more of my tits and ass flashes. Sure, they might come back under a new name (if they even know how to...lol...half these guys don't even know how to use Twitter), and if they come back I'll just ban them again when they fuck up the second time. Like Snowy said, a dickhead is probably gonna be a dickhead the second time around too. They always put their foot in their mouth and let their douchebag true colors show...lol.

I do get what you're saying though about how ignoring a troll will just cause them to get bored and leave. And yeah, maybe there is some satisfaction in knowing that you've caused him to just leave on his own. :) But for me personally, it's best to just get rid of the piece of trash by banning him. I want my chat to be as drama-free as possible, and I don't like for newcomers to enter my room and find hateful comments filling up my screen. Letting some prick sit in your room all night posting dumb shit is gonna turn off some of your potential spenders, and even your regs are gonna be like "Why don't you just ban this idiot?"

As a model who also has a premium account (I hardly ever use it anymore though), I can tell you that I will not stay long in a room where the model is repeatedly being called "n!gger bitch," and she's allowing the guy to stay. The ban button is there for a reason. Using it does not mean you're "letting him win." Having a tearful meltdown on cam is "letting him win." Banning the douche means you're taking control of your room and getting rid of the trash. :)

tropo
03-14-2014, 08:19 PM
^ A guy who has been totally ignored will not spend all night making trouble in your room. Trouble makers are making trouble to piss you off. When they see they can't piss you off they leave and don't bother coming back. It works like a charm - and they also get you privates from other customers who are trying to save you.

A ban is like an invitation for a troll to try again. They will come back one way or another and it becomes a battle. The trouble makers know you're getting upset, so they take you on. It becomes a mission.

My rooms are peaceful despite not banning people. I don't answer trouble makers and don't respond to them. Having 4 sites up at once I just hide the window and concentrate on the other sites.

In my first month on SM I've had no trouble. No trouble on AW either. On the Asian sites it never stops.

I never take anything personally. I'll take the money from assholes too - it's all the same colour. Assholes will spend money too.

Snowy0Star
03-14-2014, 11:14 PM
^ i understand what ur saying but im my experience and maybe fox too if u dont ban them they come back. it happens mainly on mfc i get a guy who pms me i block him for 2 months and put him on ignore after the 2 months is up since they can no longer pm me they come in my chat room and ask the same things again. ive tried to ignore them too them then the very next day they pm me and ask me the same things again. there are guys that have no life that just do the same cut and past message to every girl all day long it seems. what do u do about them ?

tropo
03-15-2014, 12:18 AM
^ I don't do anything about any of them. Just leave it and don't react. They soon get bored if you don't react - they're looking for girls like you who bite. If they fill up your chat window with crap, just press enter a couple of times to make it go away. You can also make your fonts big enough so you can only read a few lines at a time.

In a few minutes any guy with half a brain can come back using a different IP (proxy, VPN). That's extremely easy to do on MFC. A guy can create 100 different accounts if he wants to. VPN services allow them to change their IP instantly. As you said, these guys don't have a life, so trying to outsmart you becomes their new passion to fill up their void.

On another note, I still haven't been approved to work on ImLive. I tried to log in to email them and I get an error message saying my application has been declined, but I haven't received any email correspondence about that and I can't email anyone unless I log in, which I cannot do.

Do they not approve Asian models streaming from Asia. I noticed they don't have any Asian customer support phone numbers?

Does anyone have a support email that I can use without having to log in?

tropo
03-15-2014, 12:19 AM
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VeteranCamModel
03-15-2014, 05:38 PM
heres a number for you... where exactly are you located? they have many phone numbers, depending on your exact country, "asia" is not listed,
1-866-831-7731 United States number-NOT toll free from other countries