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TheBrownFox
04-01-2014, 09:18 AM
Fox, that is such BS! :-( I thought IML was taking all our chargebacks?!
Yeah, it's bullshit. All the time I log into this dead-ass site, and when I finally get a private show I'm excited. Now I find out I'm not even getting paid for it. And this might have actually been a dildo show too (I hardly ever have to use my dildo in ImLive privates), which just irritates me even more. I can't stand the thought of someone basically getting a free dildo show from me.

JenniferNorth
04-01-2014, 09:26 AM
Have you emailed Silvia? I would contact her, and I would be pissed off too. I can't complain too much, because IML does save my butt, but those guys want phone, toys, and the whole fucking works in pvt. For him to do that and chargeback is absolute crap!

TheBrownFox
04-01-2014, 09:34 AM
Have you emailed Silvia? I would contact her, and I would be pissed off too. I can't complain too much, because IML does save my butt, but those guys want phone, toys, and the whole fucking works in pvt. For him to do that and chargeback is absolute crap!
I went to their 'Contact us by email' page, but you're right...it's better to e-mail Silvia herself. I'm gonna do that now.

JenniferNorth
04-01-2014, 09:35 AM
Keep me updated as to what she says! She is much better than the random CS person you would get on the forum.

reversecowgirl
04-01-2014, 09:39 AM
I see them responding to others with the same issues, yet swearing no chargebacks for infinity and beyond. wtf. Makes me very nervous.

reversecowgirl
04-01-2014, 09:42 AM
To add to that, if you are man enough to take a girl private and jack off, then man up and pay the agreed payment. I can't believe they do that and then cry about something to not have their card charged. After some privates, I am exhausted and I would be pissssssssssed if they cancelled payment lol. smh.

JenniferNorth
04-01-2014, 09:47 AM
I know, I'm seeing them too. About other girls getting CBs and being like WTF, and IML is not really....answering them directly? Maybe Maddie or Vet will chime in here. I know they have worked IML for a long time, and maybe (hopefully) they know something we don't. I thought working the site was safe in regards to CBs, now seeing what other girls are writing in the forum, its making me nervous.

reversecowgirl
04-01-2014, 09:50 AM
Yep, I keep seeing the exact generic copy/pasted response to this issue. That alone would piss me off.

JenniferNorth
04-01-2014, 10:13 AM
I just got notification from Payoneer. Fox, it says I can do immediate or standard for 0.00 $$. I want to do immediate but I'm worried there is some catch-is there? Or does it matter?

reversecowgirl
04-01-2014, 10:15 AM
I hope there's no catch, I just chose immediate also.

AliceFun
04-01-2014, 10:51 AM
Pick immediate load and tick the box to do this every time Jennifer, u'll be charged 2 extra dollars for it but its worth in my opinion unless u wanna wait another 2-3 working days to get ur money.
Regarding CB's, i am lucky i had none this time but i know i had a lot of CB's in the past & they do nothing about it, they claim customers are faulty, there is written in small print that if ur CB's are higher than 15% from total earnings they'll deduct the money from ur account.
Crazy eh? They pretend to have no CB's but in fact models face CB's and who can tell for sure it's members 'fault' or ImLive taking money off models pockets?
Who can verify this? I dont trust them, never did.

TheBrownFox
04-01-2014, 12:33 PM
They gave me some long-winded response in their forums, and I probably sounded dumb as fuck telling them "Sorry, but I still don't understand." LMAO.

In their response post they basically boasted about their 'NO CHARGEBACKS' thing again, yet in the very same post they're telling me they can't protect from chargebacks. Um...what? Usually I'd be in a pissy mood over this sort of thing, but I'm just too happy right now about this MFC payday + my son's upcoming b-day party (It's officially booked...yay!) to let this ruin my day.

TheBrownFox
04-01-2014, 12:38 PM
Sorry, Jennifer. I just now saw your question. I feel the same way as Alice Fun...that it's worth it to go for the 'immediate' option. I like getting money quickly.

JaneBurgess
04-01-2014, 06:09 PM
That's total bullshit. If he had multiple shows that fucking fraud on his part to charge them back. I'm sick of cam sites fucking us over time and time again. You did your job and you need to get paid.



Looks like I won't be getting an ImLive payment today after all...thanks to the chargebacks from jamescole101 for multiple sessions. SMH.

Oh well. At least I had a fantastic pay period on MyFreeCams, and got my money from them this morning!

LolaBohemia
04-01-2014, 07:52 PM
After IMLive suspended me for a weekend over some bullshit (which they made TONS OF MONEY off of anyways) I figured out I made 2-3x as much on SM and barely go back.
Plus dude's there are conditioned to pay shit rates. Ain't having none of that.
Also I've gotten nothing but amazing ratings and even when broadcasting in free chat I'm listed low and get like zero traffic.

I honestly think that working there in the beginning of my 'cam career' and for so long almost conditioned me to think I wasn't worth that much and I couldn't bank as a cam model. I'm so happy I've left that behind.

Beentheredonethat
04-02-2014, 03:24 AM
TheBrownFox - sorry to hear that you got hit big time by chargebacks there. From what I understand, Imlive covers up to 15% of chargebacks. so if over 15% of what you earn is from chargebacks, they do not pay for it. I was never in this position so I don't really know and even before they had the no chargeback policy, i never had over 2%-3% in chargebacks in a pay period, so I'm not worried.
I always check the black list for new guys and dont take too many risks. It works for me!

VeteranCamModel
04-02-2014, 03:44 AM
alot of hosts aim for 100 a day. others aim for 200. depends how high you wanna be lol sometimes i suggest to new people, aim for 50, then take a break, regroup, come back, get another 50, and repeat. get up, stretch, move, get your thoughts together, dont burn out by sitting here 20 hrs straight, just to make hof, steady pace.

TheBrownFox
04-02-2014, 10:29 AM
"I am very sorry to see the chargebacks you had this pay period on ImLive.com.
Here at Imlive, we share your frustration when a chargeback occurs – it is really upsetting to come to the end of the pay period and see such a deduction in your earnings.

As you well know, we have changed our policy last year regarding Chargebacks, it is not a promotion, it was a complete change of the rules & policy for the entire site. The rules are 100% clear & it is not a matter of fine print or false promises.
We do absorb chargebacks unless fraudulent Host activities are suspected or if chargebacks exceed 15% of the periodic earnings average.

I’ve looked into your particular case in depth and according to my records, your Chargeback percentage was way over the 15% limit – it was 53% and therefore it was deducted from your earnings.

However, you are with us since 2008 and lately you have been putting more hours online, hence I have decided that on this onetime occasion I will cover the chargeback amount for you.

Please see it as a token of appreciation for your return to the site and I know you find it to be an incentive to come online & spend even more time in our platform.

Wishing you the best of luck!

Kind regards,
Silvia
Imlive.com"

JenniferNorth
04-02-2014, 10:35 AM
Oh Fox, I'm so glad they covered it girl! YAYYYYY!!! :-)

I guess me doing HH was a success because I got an email from IML today telling me just that. I'll try again with HH, it has helped with new viewers.

TheBrownFox
04-02-2014, 10:47 AM
Oh Fox, I'm so glad they covered it girl! YAYYYYY!!! :-)

I guess me doing HH was a success because I got an email from IML today telling me just that. I'll try again with HH, it has helped with new viewers.
Yeah, I'll get it on the April 16th payday. Silvia is very nice and professional.

Glad to hear HH was successful for you!

VeteranCamModel
04-02-2014, 01:09 PM
I love those letters from CS - esp the ones from HH saying how great I am LOL haha seriously, I find it funny BUT it IS a great boost, one that can only increase our confidence. I don't care what job one does, the higher ups, should always edify their employees. Happy workers (hosts) make happy customers ! and when everyone is happy, we are making money lol best wishes !!

laurielegs
04-02-2014, 01:25 PM
That is awesome that they covered it.

ImLive is shady though and will never be anything but side money for me. They have an exception for everything and it always ends up deducting money. No chargebacks unless it's a big one, you get paid for the discount club - oh wait, no you don't if he has a voucher, but he still gets the discount even though I don't get the money, you can get 35% if a veteran host or HOF, but oh wait its only 30% if he uses free credits (yeah it comes out of my pocket even though I never gave the guy free credits).

Procrasturbator
04-02-2014, 01:37 PM
I hate the underhanded stuff too... if they want to give discounts/freebies to guys, fine, but that should come out of the 65-70% they take from us. The vouchers are a major reason why I don't offer DC (aside from it seeming like a raw deal for models in general.) Sitting in free chat and/or waiting around for a private is already enough of a "what if"--when we do shows, aka our jobs, we should know how much we're being paid.

However, it was pretty awesome of them to cover that chargeback. They didn't have to cover it but they recognized you as a valuable model and clearly wanted to keep you on board. I'll give them that... through HOF, the diamond program, the (sometimes) personalized customer service, etc they actually do seem to care about model satisfaction, at least more than sites like SM.

JenniferNorth
04-02-2014, 02:23 PM
Laurie, I hate it when guys use those vouchers! I only cam to earn a middle-ish amount on there, I don't ever want it to be a main site. It's fine for one of my sides, but I can put the same amount of hard work into other sites (and have) and come away with wayyyy more money.

Rina
04-02-2014, 07:01 PM
I usually use them as a side site. I do about 100/day without/free chat but I usually only log in 3 days weekly, so I was curious how much hof host were making. I'll try adding more days and see, but I tend to log in and out a lot. But I am going to try to be consistent. All these years and I never did more than 20 hours in week. I am going to try but I'll pace myself

alot of hosts aim for 100 a day. others aim for 200. depends how high you wanna be lol sometimes i suggest to new people, aim for 50, then take a break, regroup, come back, get another 50, and repeat. get up, stretch, move, get your thoughts together, dont burn out by sitting here 20 hrs straight, just to make hof, steady pace.

VeteranCamModel
04-03-2014, 12:55 PM
this is how I hear it is also. I really think they should just do away with them all together and not make any rules about it. There are some situations when the host should get it deducted, like if they suspect fraud, but otherwise, all cb should just end. Im pretty blessed, I dont ever get hit with many cb at all, but im speaking for all hosts when I say this. stand in agreeane with you all for sure! best wishes

Maddie67
04-03-2014, 09:01 PM
I know, I'm seeing them too. About other girls getting CBs and being like WTF, and IML is not really....answering them directly? Maybe Maddie or Vet will chime in here. I know they have worked IML for a long time, and maybe (hopefully) they know something we don't. I thought working the site was safe in regards to CBs, now seeing what other girls are writing in the forum, its making me nervous. I havent had any since they changed policy, at least not over 15% of my total. (Brown Fox, Im glad they took care of you.). It should be ALL CB's though, always. All i can really advise is if a guy seems too good to be true, he probably is, so dont get in too deep with him and this is no fool proof method. Ask in their forum if anyone knows a guest you are concerned about, someone usually answers cuz big spenders generally spread it around.

VeteranCamModel
04-04-2014, 02:03 PM
Im glad they took care of you too brown fox !!lol @ maddies comment "big spenders generally spread it around" tee hee

Maddie67
04-04-2014, 09:03 PM
Lol..I said spread it...its funny when several hosts get to talking in forum about a member who sees you too and you see who else he goes to, and then you have to feel sorry for the poor hosts who believed him when he swore he only sees them..i think you said once, they all "cheat", but yeah, gets spread far and wide.

TheBrownFox
04-04-2014, 09:17 PM
I never believe these guys when they claim "You're the only model I watch, bb." Yeah, right. Five minutes later they'll be using that same line on some other chick. LOL.

VeteranCamModel
04-05-2014, 12:46 PM
yeah I know right? I was away for a few months, I got online, and PRESTO this guy comes in and says things like , hes missed me, I only log in when I seee you're here LOL really? wow what a coincidence !! tee hee but I do love them SOOO much! makes me smile and gives me something to talk LONGER about.. "tell me ALLLLL about it bb" LOL

VeteranCamModel
04-07-2014, 11:54 AM
Sooo what's for dinner? anyone? I'm looking for new ideas. I love anything fresh, veggies,chicken,organic. and dessert lol has anyone ever made mashed califlower? instead of potatoes? I saw this on a TV show and wanted to know how good they taste. best wishes for a successful day

euaici
04-07-2014, 12:01 PM
Well, i make a cauliflower soup that contains cauliflower, milk, butter and some flour...so i suppose if you mash it and add butter it should be good too. What's definetly good is to use parsley root or parsnips instead of potatoes for french fries. they are so nice and sweet that some days you can say they are better than the original :)

also, cauliflower is very good stir-fried with some nutmeg and cinnamon sprinkled on...a very good Arabic inspired recipe. They add yoghurt and rice to it, also chicken sometimes.

CummingCouple
04-07-2014, 06:14 PM
Mmmm cauliflower... Oh wait, I had a reason to post in here and I got sidetracked by your food discussion :P

Imlive has thrown us through a loop! For real, the site is so wacky the past week or even longer. We suspect it's the "new upgrades" to the site because this happened once before a while back and they were changing things. I think their designers also do LJ cause now the site looks JUST like it. Not sure if that's a good or a bad thing. So apparently Customer Service reps don't even know how to fix the tech issues because I asked a rep and he gave me the answer "Maybe switch browsers? Chrome?" Sounds like he knows what is going on, NOT. I did end up switching and switching right back to Firefox cause this bull happened:37098

Many members have been unable to see us, and pvts get dropped. It's really not our fault and CS acts like it is. Shit was hitting the fan, and then on the first, we had our first indication of browser issues via this photo which only popped up once, ever(dfsfsd.jpg). Are chrome and opera really compatible on the hosts side? Chrome works fine for members, but we were lagging and stuff was taking forever on site to load plus the usual flash issues >:O Things MIGHT be smoothing out now (fingers crossed)

The thing that is the worst about imlive right now, is that the star ratings seem to not matter, as in, a girl with 5 stars could be on page 4 but a girl with 3 stars could be on the front page. Really odd... I dont think HOF is the deciding factor in the order you are viewed, so it's a bit confusing. That's imlive for ya! Anyone staying afloat on imlive alone? Our kudos go out to you! They're a tough crowd to work as of late. also, sorry for the gigantor image...

TheBrownFox
04-07-2014, 07:19 PM
For as long as I can remember, I've always had to use Firefox with ImLive and with AdultWork's JustCamIt. Those are like the only two things online I'd absolutely have to use Firefox for, because with Chrome the chat screens just would not operate properly.

SexiCal
04-07-2014, 07:35 PM
I'm going to try Firefox the next time I log onto IML. I just seem to have too many issues when I'm using Chrome.

VeteranCamModel
04-08-2014, 03:56 AM
well, I dont have time to get into it all now - but i absolutely hate the new changes and all these upgrades they require! the new member page layout is horrible, it is not going to be a good change at all. I need to let this all sink in and do some research before posting any more about this. But I think this is BAD! it just looks messy, confusing, and like every other site, new hosts started joining the site again, since no cb and now they go and do this and make a mess of it.... woah I have to regroup lol best wishes everyone

AliceFun
04-08-2014, 05:26 AM
I find site extremely slow lately & i now appear on fetish galaxy as i updated pics recently, if i go in FLC (free live chat) i get members typing to me in free in hebrew or other language i dont know. I keep site in Pvt mode on the side while working SM. There is no traffic there anymore & these people from countries like Israel, Cyprus & some other wont buy shows or if they do they refund it; after they introduced the no CB thing i was fearless about getting CB's anymore and did an almost one hr show for a guy saying he is in dubai, of course he refunded the money and as it was more than 15% of my entire income that pay period imlive deducted $49 from my earnings. NOT nice! I now only trust 'westerners' to do shows for, no more funny locations, it's too risky.

I dont know what they wanna do with the site, i for myself like the new layout but i would prefer paying traffic to go with.

VeteranCamModel
04-08-2014, 01:14 PM
thats what alot of hosts are saying to me.... slow. and the guys cant find us. Im glad you enjoy the new layout. sorry about your cb. I hate whenever anyone gets any deductions, it's not fair at all. best wishes for a great evening

JenniferNorth
04-08-2014, 01:43 PM
Alice, thanks for the heads up, I'm thinking I will NOT upload any pics to fetish Galaxy...yes, I noticed it was very slow this afternoon too, and I paid for a hot spot as I usually do. Hmm. Trying this evening when guys have their late night wood (and trying to get back on mornings, to see if that will help). Lots of one minute wonders, which I don't mind, but damn. Very much agreed that it is slow. I want to make $50/day on there, but I am re-examining my eggs. Thank you Vet for the positive vibes, I love seeing you post in this thread. To all you ladies, have a wonderful Tuesday, let's get that $$!

JenniferNorth
04-08-2014, 01:54 PM
Um, did you guys see that Silvia is leaving? Someone named Chloe is taking her place! I'll miss Silvia, she's the best!

AliceFun
04-08-2014, 03:10 PM
^^^ I wonder if they fire people or people just leave the company?! It's funny how people leave and they never say why, i mean they could give an explanation that the person got a higher position or so, even if not true it sounds better than no explanation at all!?

ETA: plus i dont understand why they create that fetish galaxy site for specific israeli & cyprus nationals & who ever else when we all know (i know) how money tight these people are, no offence but i worked with israeli companies here and they the most cheap people on earth after scots lol. Pls dont take offence on my comments, i am half kidding but really, there are no money to be earned from these members of fetish galaxy, the thing is simply useless but they do it cause ImLive is israeli too :)

Maddie67
04-08-2014, 08:40 PM
Um, did you guys see that Silvia is leaving? Someone named Chloe is taking her place! I'll miss Silvia, she's the best! She is the best, and she is going to have a baby very soon. She said she may return after maternity leave, but in a different position. Chloe is also very good, she has been there for several years, has helped me out many times.

VeteranCamModel
04-09-2014, 12:07 PM
well my last post wasnt so positive lol- I try to be, but I wasn't expecting this sorta change right now- this type, this extreme. Silvia is awesome, but so is Chloe, she's been in my room before for room checks and stuff. she will do great Im sure. I dont think silvia got fired lol- she's expecting a baby. Course maddie already said this tee hee- hey maddie. today was awesome for me, gonna go off and enjoy my group meeting and hang out with friends tonight. best wishes always

reversecowgirl
04-09-2014, 12:34 PM
I can't believe the new traffic bullshit. It's ranging between 700-3,000 tops now when I've seen it at 14,000. The big wigs seriously need to reconsider this "new fab site" crap, I've even had members tell me that they had trouble finding me, and I've made shit this week compared to normal. And I swear if I hear "use our power tools baby", or "read our tips to promote your room traffic" I will scream. It does me zero good if I stand on my head with a dildo up my ass, IF THERE'S NO SITE TRAFFIC.

TheBrownFox
04-09-2014, 10:30 PM
well my last post wasnt so positive lol- I try to be, but I wasn't expecting this sorta change right now- this type, this extreme.
You always speak positively about ImLive though, so don't be so hard on yourself when you do feel like venting about the site. It's far from perfect, that's for sure (though no cam site is perfect).

Aw, I really like Silvia too. I wish her all the best.

VeteranCamModel
04-10-2014, 03:52 AM
thanks so much ! I needed that! Yeah, we all get down from time to time. Thats why its nice to have this site to come to, cool off, vent, get feed back. I get this way when I know in my gut that its a bad move. Its not for me to say, we just roll with it. Do the best we can, never give up, my best tip now for you girls, use your message center to keep in constant contact with your guys. the things you do today, will make you money tomorrow... I speak blessings upon each of you for prosperity, perfect health, and JOY!

reversecowgirl
04-10-2014, 08:32 AM
On the messaging, what do you I say to them? I haven't done any of those yet because I'm afraid of being an annoying sales person, like the ones that call during dinner time or something. Is there a way to bring them back to me without me literally "asking"? And how often should I reach out to them?

JenniferNorth
04-10-2014, 10:20 AM
I thought maybe it was just me, but traffic was HORRIBLE yesterday. HORRIBLE. I paid for placement. I will grant you ladies I may not be the best cam girl, but making $50 was not a difficult thing to do on there. In fact it was pretty easy. I don't know, I'll get on there, see how it is. IML has always been my the "saving my ass site" so this is dissappointing.

RE. the message center, I think you can email guys individually, or use the mailer? But I use the mailer, and usually say "hey, I have new pics up, come see!" I tweet when I'm on IML as well. May pull a backup site out today, who knows. I adore IML for being the site that saves me, but adoration and good memories don't pay my bills. (Sorry if I sound more frazzled than normal, my new life situation has me stressed out beyond belief)

VeteranCamModel
04-10-2014, 02:19 PM
I do NOT talk about videochatting or coming to see me, until THEY mention it. I will start off maybe with this... hey dude (or whatever you call him) I was just thinkin bout you. Im just hangin out tonight, nothing good on TV and Im just chillin out and thinkin about what you might be up to. I LOVED how much fun we had the other day, you crack me up dude tee hee- anyways, I gotta go find something for dinner. I was thinkin maybe Italian food.. ohh la la lol what are you havin? (this leaves the door open for him to reply.. asking questions. Talk about his job. Its like emailing a FRIEND. this is where you get to know them. write notes between emails, to remind you of what you guys email about, so then when he comes in, you can ask about it. Its not complicated, its making them feel like they mean something to you. Become buddies, whats it worth to ya? to be different from everyone else? To actually make him feel like you give a darn about him,. Some people are very lonely, very sad, its nice to cheer up someone, just for NO reason at all.... just to say HEY, Im thnkin about you and miss you. whatcha havin for dinner anyway? your reward will follow when you love from your heart. THIS has nothing to do with videochatting, but to build the friendship, relationship, so when they do come into chat, they stay longer. I normally do my emails in the morning, throughout the day when theres time, but the ones I initiate I do in the morning, I ALWAYS have emails coming in and out, you should too... its MARKETING ! Be Blessed