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Classy_Katy
12-09-2014, 04:06 AM
I've had an email from the person campaigning via 38 Degrees. A motion was tabled in Parliament on Friday calling for the new AVMS law to be annulled - http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2014-15/605

He says:
"If you have any influence with your local, or any other, MP, Member of the House of Lords, etc., then please urge them to support it.

I accept that as an Early Day Motion it is unlikely to become law, but it needs to be flagged up as an issue, because it may be a long campaign.

The sooner parliamentarians are aware of pressure against it, the shorter the campaign will be!

Thank you for signing the petition Bound-by-law. Against sexually repressive legislation., can you help spread the word by forwarding the link below to your friends?

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/bound-by-law-against-sexually-repressive-legislation"

sexysusie
12-09-2014, 08:05 PM
New update on the protest in london this friday - "Porn protest to shock with mass ‘face-sitting’ and fake sex"

http://disq.us/8la7b7

Should be fun ;)

SophiaSylvan
12-09-2014, 08:17 PM
New update on the protest in london this friday - "Porn protest to shock with mass ‘face-sitting’ and fake sex"

http://disq.us/8la7b7

Should be fun ;)

Awesome! Then any news agencies that get it on video will be making illegal porn?

sexysusie
12-10-2014, 12:54 AM
Had to giggle at some of the comments below


•Role-playing as non-adults ???
Dear God, does that mean a woman can't dress up as a naughty school girl in a video?
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Tom Danny • 12 hours ago
Well if women were to see such things it might encourage them to become actual naughty school girls. We can't have that now, can we?

Somewhere in the UK there is a man sobbing into the nappies he is no longer allowed to wear on set.

Classy_Katy
12-10-2014, 01:05 AM
We can still dress up as school girls but what's the point of school girls if they're not being spanked or caned?!

sexysusie
12-12-2014, 04:04 PM
Some coverage of today's porn protest

http://ow.ly/FOlad
http://snpy.tv/1vJyLGa
And this one by Pandora Blake who I'm really impressed with. Don't think the other woman even knew what type of porn this is all about? Just shows how unaware most people are!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTMQQWNo6Ek

nadia29
12-13-2014, 07:49 AM
We can still dress up as school girls but what's the point of school girls if they're not being spanked or caned?!

You're just going to have to use a riding crop ;)

Vlodina
01-20-2015, 11:42 AM
Meanwhile, SKY is blocking new customers from pornographic content by default. Grr. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30896813

CurvyWinona
01-20-2015, 11:47 AM
Ugh.

Dear UK,
Please quit cockblocking.

Thanks,
Pussy needs the money

RebeccaT
01-20-2015, 12:53 PM
Meanwhile, SKY is blocking new customers from pornographic content by default. Grr. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30896813

This has been the norm in the UK for ISPs, 'phone contracts, TV contracts for a few years. You have to opt in, not out, but with internet and TV you can allow access for some users and not others.

Vlodina
01-20-2015, 01:15 PM
This has been the norm in the UK for ISPs, 'phone contracts, TV contracts for a few years. You have to opt in, not out, but with internet and TV you can allow access for some users and not others.

Not been the case for Virgin either) I became a customer in July). Perhaps BT was already doing it? There was talk about it happening though.

Vlodina
01-20-2015, 01:16 PM
Ugh.

Dear UK,
Please quit cockblocking.

Thanks,
Pussy needs the money

Westminster is the gift the keeps on giving...

Classy_Katy
04-06-2015, 09:07 AM
Rearing it's head again as the election approaches...

"The Conservatives want to take filtering one stage further and force adult content sites to verify age beyond the simple “I am 18 or older” age gates that do not force users to prove that they are as old as they say they are.

Any site that does not comply with the age verification restrictions will be blocked from the internet by ISPs in the UK."


http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/06/should-we-age-restrict-porn?CMP=fb_gu

newb2
04-06-2015, 09:32 AM
I think the tories dont want to get elected
lol
they probably won't anyway so no need to panic girls

Classy_Katy
04-06-2015, 01:03 PM
they probably won't anyway

Hell Yes! ;)

RebeccaT
04-06-2015, 02:32 PM
Rearing it's head again as the election approaches...

"The Conservatives want to take filtering one stage further and force adult content sites to verify age beyond the simple “I am 18 or older” age gates that do not force users to prove that they are as old as they say they are.

Any site that does not comply with the age verification restrictions will be blocked from the internet by ISPs in the UK."


http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/06/should-we-age-restrict-porn?CMP=fb_gu

I don't see why sites have a problem complying with age verification. Of course, they will then have to enforce the rules in free chat...

DancesWithSloths
04-06-2015, 03:38 PM
Quite a few sites that get banned by mobile ISPs at the moment are sex education sites, LGBT communities and the like. When you let a government or a corporate behemoth decide what's porn and what isn't, it's bad news for everyone.

bbwbrianna
04-06-2015, 07:44 PM
Why is the UK so afraid of sex related stuff? We all got here somehow right? But violence and watching people get cut up is A ok.

sexysusie
04-06-2015, 09:55 PM
Unfortunately the TORIES are guaranteed a win as too many idiots voting green and ukip and other parties who have no chance of winning, all of which is splitting what would have been a strong labour vote. TORIES in = the end of our wildlife, the end of welfare, the end of the nhs, the end of UK porn, and expansion into the worlds largest hunting/fishing/shooting estate for cumeron and his evil twats. Well done England, I'm fucking moving!

sexysusie
04-06-2015, 09:57 PM
Rebecca they're not age verification restrictions they're UK PORN PRODUCER restrictions!

Classy_Katy
04-06-2015, 11:23 PM
I don't see why sites have a problem complying with age verification. Of course, they will then have to enforce the rules in free chat...

They're talking about any site...sites outside the UK are not going to go through the steps that Adultwork are, just so that they stay accessible to UK ISPs.

RebeccaT
04-07-2015, 12:12 AM
They're talking about any site...sites outside the UK are not going to go through the steps that Adultwork are, just so that they stay accessible to UK ISPs.


I realise the likes of MFC and Chaturbate won't bother. It's the sites we should be complaining to. Compliance laws are in place in the US but MFC allow them to be flaunted.

Bootsie
04-07-2015, 11:55 AM
I have been living in the UK for 18ish months now...I will miss some things about this country. I will not miss this shit.

sexysusie
04-12-2015, 10:13 AM
Just found vote swapping. It's a great idea for those who want to ensure the TORIES are booted out http://voteswap.org/

janeuk
04-12-2015, 12:46 PM
From time to time my ISP send me an email along the lines of 'We notice that you have opted not to activate the childproof filter on your internet, do you realise this could expose minors in the house to blah blah blah...' (paraphrase obvs). *sigh*

I think 'opt in' has been a massive waste of time, another 'morality' distraction from the real damage being inflicted on society by ripping the heart out of the public health care system and selling off public assets to their rich mates. Urgh... makes me feel sick.

Bootsie
04-12-2015, 12:50 PM
From time to time my ISP send me an email along the lines of 'We notice that you have opted not to activate the childproof filter on your internet, do you realise this could expose minors in the house to blah blah blah...' (paraphrase obvs). *sigh*

I think 'opt in' has been a massive waste of time, another 'morality' distraction from the real damage being inflicted on society by ripping the heart out of the public health care system and selling off public assets to their rich mates. Urgh... makes me feel sick.

My roommate gets these emails and always forwards them to me with a mildly hilarious message at the top like "omg, the minors are in danger from your smut!!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!" Such bullshit.

janeuk
04-12-2015, 12:53 PM
I wrote back complaining about what a complete CROCK all of this was the first time, but they make it a total hassle because you can't just hit 'reply', you need to track down the complaints email address and all. Plus nada in the way of result.

Classy_Katy
05-24-2015, 11:59 PM
Another reason for staying within the EU:

"A leaked document from the EU has suggested David Cameron’s plans to crack down on internet porn could be blocked by Brussels, it has emerged."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-poses-threat-to-camerons-plans-to-crack-down-on-internet-porn-leaked-document-suggests-10273328.html

beauvoir
05-25-2015, 03:56 AM
Best way to crack down on underage kids watching porn is to get rid of tube sites and free sites. If EVERYTHING is behind a paywall then kids can't watch it, the industry wouldn't be on it's knees (excuse the pun), you wouldn't need ISP filters and then the government could tax it to incentivize them to get behind it.

I should run for Prime Minister.

anoncamgirl
05-25-2015, 07:11 AM
I'm pretty frustrated about this. I hope it doesn't make its way to the States.

RebeccaT
05-25-2015, 08:01 AM
Best way to crack down on underage kids watching porn is to get rid of tube sites and free sites. If EVERYTHING is behind a paywall then kids can't watch it, the industry wouldn't be on it's knees (excuse the pun), you wouldn't need ISP filters and then the government could tax it to incentivize them to get behind it.

I should run for Prime Minister.

I totally agree with you. No porn should be free and if age verification rules were adhered to then it would all have to be paid for.

Classy_Katy
05-26-2015, 01:24 AM
"Britons may soon face identity checks to access adult material on the internet, according to discussions between Whitehall and the private sector.

A scheme proposed by the pornography industry would see adult sites verifying visitors’ identity with organisations such as banks, credit reference agencies or even the NHS.

It comes ahead of an expected new law demanding age checks for online pornography and threatening a block on any sites which don’t comply. It is a key Conservative pledge and has widespread support. But critics say the plans are a privacy nightmare. Some warn they are a step towards Chinese-style internet restrictions.

“This is cutting-edge censorship,” said Myles Jackman, a lawyer specialising in obscenity law. “We are now becoming the world leaders in censorship. And we are being watched very closely from abroad.”"

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/may/26/pornography-industry-user-id-checks-adult-websites-privacy

Classy_Katy
05-27-2015, 01:05 PM
http://uk.askmen.com/news/entertainment/will-user-id-verification-proposed-by-uk-pornography-industry-come-to-the-us.html

Users would log in through one of these identity providers and an age check would be run using the data it holds. Checks are to pass through an "anonymizing hub" that would remove sensitive information on both ends of the check. The provider would not know the purpose for the check and the website would not get any more information about the person's identity other than age.

Critics of the plan, who point to numerous recent privacy leaks perpetrated by hackers, the government or police, say the system could be a disaster.

ArtsyScarlett
05-27-2015, 04:45 PM
This is all such a waste of time!

The "think of the children" sentiment is a load of crap. My partner always tells me it is no different really these days, just as a kid he found his porn in the bushes not online! lol. (apparently people used to ditch porn mags in bushes?!)

Sex is sex, not sure why the government should be in our bedrooms. Governments trying to control the internet is truly scary stuff, the bottom line is that for people that want to use it for illicit purposes there is nothing they can do. Offshore VPN, Tor with a VPS exit node paid for with BTC on a burner laptop connected via a public hotspot and there is no chance any government can control what people do, spend a few days on the deep web and you will have a very different view of the how much control governments have. The bad people will still do bad stuff the scarier thing is that the more information the good people give the more the bad ones can get. I despise uploading my documents to sites, the amount of damage that can be done with a passport is truly terrifying... Luckily I am young so my passport isn't that valuable but for older people that information can be a gold mine for the bad guys.

Sorry slightly off topic rant over, this is a topic v. close to my heart and even more so now!

x

nadia29
05-27-2015, 05:07 PM
I think there needs to be some type of age verification. Half the guests on on mfc are most likely kids and I don't think it is really healthy for them to be seeing girls ram themselves with dildos.

BustyDenise
05-28-2015, 04:09 AM
David Cameron wants a friggin cactus put up his butt,I cant stand the guy,the obsecenity laws have changed so certain sexual acts are not allowed to be performed in films or on cam ie fisting,peeing all that kind of stuff,not sure about anal if that still allowed,AW changed their photo and content as soon as the new law got put into place basicaly no topless or nudity on the any free parts of the site otherwise you get banned,I dont think DC can ban internet porn as a whole,he may think he is god but its not that straight forward,ISPs are giving people the option to be able to access porn or not,virgin broadband have already made it standard when you 1st sign up so you have to call them to tell them you want to have access to adult sites

BustyDenise
05-28-2015, 04:12 AM
I got a 14 year the other day on AW,he booked a skyped show and I twigged from the start of the chat he was a kid because he said he couldn't talk because his mum was downstairs,I asked how old he was and he said 14,i cut him of straight away and reported him to AW,so much for age restrictions lol

MessyChick
05-28-2015, 06:23 AM
the porn mag in the hedge thing is called a 'grumble tree' apparently.

i remember finding one when i was in primary school (about age 8 i guess) my mum bought an old Atari computer out of the small ads and it came with lots of games, she didnt even read the titles. One was called Centrefold Squares :p you had to answer quiz questions and each corret answer revealed a square of the picture of a naked lady. Me and my friends soon discovered if you hit the keyboard hard enough it just removed all the squares haha!

my point being, if kids want to find porn then they will. I dont think it should be easy for them to find, we do have a duty to protect minors, but i think more should be done to educate parents on how to protect their kids online, because most are clueless. And stop selling bloody Playboy stuff thats aimed at 8yr old girls!!

Classy_Katy
05-28-2015, 11:11 AM
When I was young, 3 of my friends had fathers with a (not so) secret stash of porn mags, some hard core...was great fun looking at them! Yup, bushes were the place to find random porn. At my daughter's school, many were having sex by age 11. Thankfully, we have a good relationship and can talk openly about everything.

Classy_Katy
01-17-2016, 12:12 PM
"ATVOD Has Closed. Now What?

While sexual freedom campaigners are delighted to see the anti-porn regulator go, and some are claiming this as a victory, the change is, in reality, ominous, and is unlikely to result in any loosening of porn regulations: in fact Ofcom runs one of the world’s most unnecessarily prudish regimes of TV censorship, and is unlikely to be more relaxed about Internet content. The end of ATVOD has probably been largely driven by disquiet among large broadcasters, who have reportedly been increasingly annoyed to be funding an anti-porn witch-hunt.

Now that Ofcom has taken the reins, we can expect to see the regulator lobbying for more censorship powers against ‘unacceptable’ overseas content – which doubtless will go far broader than pornography. Currently, a private members bill to enable censorship is in progress through Parliament. Like previous non-government attempts, this will probably fail, but we should watch out for the contents of the Queen’s Speech this Spring. Any mention of ‘online safety’ or ‘protecting children online’ will herald the impending end of free Internet access for British citizens."

http://sexandcensorship.org/2016/01/atvod-closed-now/

Classy_Katy
07-10-2016, 11:24 AM
Yesterday, the UK government released the result of its consultation into (yet again) protecting children from online pornography. Predictably, the finding was that children DO need even more protection, and so Ofcom must be granted additional powers to censor online content.

This process has been so long and treacle-slow that it’s been clear for many years where it is leading. Stripping away the various convoluted steps that brought us here, one simple fact has always been obvious: Ofcom and the government were always going to act against a free Internet which undermined their powerful censorship controls over the mass media, and especially over sexual content.

So what will the new law – the Digital Economy Bill – say? It cements and the significantly extends the existing AVMS regulations which have been in place since 2010. So, as before, adult video-on-demand sites based in the UK are required to verify the ages of their visitors before revealing adult content to them. Failure to do so can (as before) result in a fine of up to £250,000. This regulation is the reason the UK adult industry has been decimated in the past few years.

Here’s the new stuff:

The law no longer applies to “TV-like” video-on-demand services, but to all content, including still photography. This will close the loophole which a handful of websites have used to evade the regulations.
Apps are to be included as well as websites.
Ofcom will put pressure on payment companies as well as “advertising companies, web hosting services and others” to ensure that “the business models and profits of companies that do not comply with the new regulations can be undermined”. This enables Ofcom to target overseas content that breaches UK regulations.

Note the vagueness in this last point: this could easily include, in future, requiring ISPs to block services. So here is the law that I’ve warned of for some years: one that will allow Ofcom to manage – and close – our digital borders. The great firewall of Britain is coming.

Unless I’ve missed it, I can’t find any definition of “porn” in the report. The consultation hinted that soft content – non-explicit nudity and erotica – may be included, at Ofcom’s discretion.

It’s Not About Porn

Here’s a point I’ve made repeatedly. In my book Porn Panic!, I argue that the war on porn has been merely a symptom of a deeper intolerance to free speech that has long been rising in British society. Ofcom will not, of course, stop at targeting commercial porn sites, or even all sexual content. The British state considers myriad forms of content to be unsuitable for under-18s, and will now grant itself the powers to deal with it.

http://sexandcensorship.org/2016/07/ofcoms-internet-power-grab/

sexysusie
07-10-2016, 04:16 PM
Still doesn't mention live broadcast. Not that it will stop them if they have someone in their sites. If you need help with further clarification or find yourself targeted by of com (unlikely as they will probably focus on the large companies and the most high profile names first), these contacts can help

Backlash UK https://www.backlash.org.uk
Solicitor Myles jackman http://mylesjackman.com
And keep up to date with everything at http://sexandcensorship.org

rstuart2
01-14-2017, 07:11 AM
Thought I would share the correspondence I got from Minister of State for Digital and Culture, regarding the effect of the Digital Economy Bill on live streaming-:


Our Ref: 295094 Rachel Stuart [email protected]

Dear Ms Stuart,

Thank you for your email of 7 December to the Minister of State for Digital and Culture, the Rt Hon Matt Hancock MP, regarding the effect of the Digital Economy Bill on live streaming. I am replying as a member of the Ministerial Support Team at the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS).

As you are aware, the Government has introduced the clauses in the Digital Economy (DE) Bill that will require all commercial providers of online pornography to have age verification controls in place to order to stop under-18s from accessing pornographic material. This requirement will apply whether the acts depicted are live or recorded and is intended to ensure children have the same safeguards online as they do offline. The Government is establishing a robust regulatory system and is introducing measures that will allow the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC), as the regulator, to identify noncompliant sites and work with them to comply with the law. For sites that continue to remain non-compliant with UK law, the regulator will be able to instruct payment providers and other ancillary service providers of non-compliant sites. In addition, the BBFC will be enabled to direct Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to prevent access to a particular site. There is no question of a blanket ban; decisions as to whether sites should be blocked will be taken on a case-by-case basis. In the case of live streaming of certain sexual acts and fetishes, the regulatory framework will also apply to material provided on a commercial basis that would not be suitable for classification by the BBFC. In making any assessment of content, the BBFC will apply the standards used to classify pornography that is distributed offline. Examples of material that the BBFC refuses to classify include pornographic works that: depict and encourage rape, including gang rape; depict non-consensual violent abuse against women; promote an interest in incestuous behaviour; and promote an interest in sex with children.

I hope this information is helpful.

Yours sincerely,

Sally Henderson Ministerial Support Team


This should clarify the situation somewhat.


Rachel x

sexysusie
01-14-2017, 07:17 AM
They make no mention there of including the updated regulations in regards to squirting and 'depictions of extreme violence' ie face sitting. This is why the area is so vague. On the one hand we need more clarification, on the other we definitely DON'T want to be calling attention to ourselves by seeking it!

rstuart2
01-14-2017, 07:28 AM
I personally believe they keep it deliberately vague in order not to have to legislate. The impulse for regulation is not there because the victim rhetoric is not there. I have always maintained that the increasing legislation against pornography and prostitution and the deliberate lack of specific legislation pertaining to webcamming is so that it can stay outside legislative control. Legislation is always about protecting the interests be it political or financial of powerful social players. Who would benefit from legislation and who would lose? Thats what i suspect is going on here.

scarletl
01-15-2017, 06:16 AM
I'm so confused by all of this. I am a UK model and I produce content which is on US based sites only such as C4S, Iwantclips, Kinkbomb, Manyvids and niteflirt.
I produce fetish type content like humiliation, domination, blackmail etc. All solo, no extreme domination just more of the verbal abuse side.
Am I ok to still produce this type of content on those sites, as they are US based sites?

PixiieGirl
01-15-2017, 06:29 AM
god thats still so ridicolous, I'm guessing mommy/daddy dom(me) stuff is gonna be banned and stuff then?

why can't the empathise be on proper sex education so kids dont think porn is how sex is always and stuff
¬.¬

rstuart2
01-15-2017, 06:37 AM
What stands out for me is the section, 'the Digital Economy (DE) Bill that will require all commercial providers of online pornography to have age verification controls in place to order to stop under-18s from accessing pornographic material. This requirement will apply whether the acts depicted are live or recorded and is intended to ensure children have the same safeguards online as they do offline'. I would take this to mean that whatever you do is hidden behind vigourous verification and that you do not do anything at all explicit in public forums. If anyone wants a copy of the pdf i was sent by the house of commons I am happy to send the pdf. You never know when this type of stuff could be handy

Classy_Katy
01-15-2017, 06:45 AM
I'm so confused by all of this. I am a UK model and I produce content which is on US based sites only such as C4S, Iwantclips, Kinkbomb, Manyvids and niteflirt.
I produce fetish type content like humiliation, domination, blackmail etc. All solo, no extreme domination just more of the verbal abuse side.
Am I ok to still produce this type of content on those sites, as they are US based sites?

There are non-UK sites but the UK may block our access to them, our ability to purchase from them and maybe receive money from them. We/customers may only be able to access the sites through a VPN but paying and receiving payment may be a problem. We can be paid in cash through Payoneer etc though.

PixiieGirl
01-15-2017, 06:46 AM
What stands out for me is the section, 'the Digital Economy (DE) Bill that will require all commercial providers of online pornography to have age verification controls in place to order to stop under-18s from accessing pornographic material. This requirement will apply whether the acts depicted are live or recorded and is intended to ensure children have the same safeguards online as they do offline'. I would take this to mean that whatever you do is hidden behind vigourous verification and that you do not do anything at all explicit in public forums. If anyone wants a copy of the pdf i was sent by the house of commons I am happy to send the pdf. You never know when this type of stuff could be handy
what are they gonna do about stuff like twitter, and tumblr and stuff?
this is so poorly thought out tbh