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grneyesnfl
06-27-2019, 03:33 AM
Take a look at Keen. You can create an account there for all sorts of Non-Adult categories. But from time to time you'll still get callers wanting to talk dirty.

https://www.keen.com/

Keen no longer has the Social Entertainment section (which is the only section where you could create non-adult, non-psychic listings). They did away with that 3 or 4 years ago. It's strictly a psychic site now.

VelvetRose
06-27-2019, 03:38 AM
I once took a 20 minute call inside a grocery store and i was talking very explicit. And i made my money that day! Lol

This! 100%! I only turn my phone off when I'm showering, eating dinner, at the gym or the movies. The rest of the time my phone line is on. I have taken so many calls while driving my car and at various stores. If I can duck out and go to my car for privacy, I do. The other day I was deep in Target, so I walked around the empty electronics department whispering small penis humiliation and cuckold fantasies into my phone. What a way to make a living! Love it! ;D

VelvetRose
06-27-2019, 03:46 AM
Take a look at Keen. You can create an account there for all sorts of Non-Adult categories. But from time to time you'll still get callers wanting to talk dirty.

https://www.keen.com/


Keen no longer has the Social Entertainment section (which is the only section where you could create non-adult, non-psychic listings). They did away with that 3 or 4 years ago. It's strictly a psychic site now.

They also charge a $250 setup fee! :O

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-27-2019, 05:11 AM
I knew about the just friends category going away but I didn't know about the setup fee?

queenelayliah
06-27-2019, 03:56 PM
How has niteflirt been for everyone lately? I know its the summer months but I remember all of us noticing how’s its been a really slow year. Have you guys noticed a increase in calls or $$$?

MsMeta
06-28-2019, 01:13 PM
How has niteflirt been for every lately? I know its the summer months but I remember all of noticing how’s its been a really slow year. Have you guys noticed a increase in calls or $$$?

It's been absolute SHIT for me across the board. My regulars have disappeared - some like, off the face of the earth. One guy who has been calling me for two years at least once a week is MIA and I'm actually pretty worried about him. I do get a few new guys every day and they break down like this: 1/2 call back semi regularly (minus a few one-offs) and 1/2 are limit pushers who want pedo stuff, freebies, free irl sex, or give me NOTHING and then leave feedback saying "She didn't know what I wanted." Those are terrible numbers lol.

I'm trying to be positive but it's so so hard. And I'm very tied to NF because it really is the best payout for what I do (I don't cam & I use content). TTM is just as slow for me and pays less than half of what I make on NF. I've read Amberly's book three times and between following that and advice from here I'm not sure what else to do. I've even considered that it's ME but I used to make bank here (with a lot less effort too lol) so I think I must be at least okay at phonesex. The only thing I can think of is maybe it's moving to camming more and plain old phonesex is becoming obsolete - which means I need to find myself a new way to pay the bills lol.

Spemily
06-28-2019, 02:41 PM
It's been absolute SHIT for me across the board. My regulars have disappeared - some like, off the face of the earth. One guy who has been calling me for two years at least once a week is MIA and I'm actually pretty worried about him. I do get a few new guys every day and they break down like this: 1/2 call back semi regularly (minus a few one-offs) and 1/2 are limit pushers who want pedo stuff, freebies, free irl sex, or give me NOTHING and then leave feedback saying "She didn't know what I wanted." Those are terrible numbers lol.

I'm trying to be positive but it's so so hard. And I'm very tied to NF because it really is the best payout for what I do (I don't cam & I use content). TTM is just as slow for me and pays less than half of what I make on NF. I've read Amberly's book three times and between following that and advice from here I'm not sure what else to do. I've even considered that it's ME but I used to make bank here (with a lot less effort too lol) so I think I must be at least okay at phonesex. The only thing I can think of is maybe it's moving to camming more and plain old phonesex is becoming obsolete - which means I need to find myself a new way to pay the bills lol.

The last year and half has been super bad for me on NF and this month is shaping up to be my worth month ever. Like you, one guy who has been calling me regularly (at least once a week but often more) for three years has disappeared. All my other regular callers are gone as well. I can go days without getting a call and I rarely hear from new callers again no matter how the call goes. I also feel like I'm experiencing an increase in limit pushers.

Chat has also completely dried up. I have one character who from the beginning of chat always made most of her money with chat, usually between $500-1000 a month. This month, she has made $74, all sources combined!

Like you, I used to make three or four times more money while being available far less of the time and without having any goodies or offering chat. Now, I've got more to sell, revamped all my listings, made more characters, expanded to more sites and my grand total for all sites, all characters this month is just over $400. I know others are making money, so I know the problem is me, but I can't figure out how to turn things around.

MysteryGirl44
06-28-2019, 09:28 PM
I'm signing up to become a phone sex operator on Niteflirt and they're asking me to put in my credit card information to verify that I'm at least 18 years old. Is this safe?

grneyesnfl
06-28-2019, 11:44 PM
I'm signing up to become a phone sex operator on Niteflirt and they're asking me to put in my credit card information to verify that I'm at least 18 years old. Is this safe?

Perfectly safe. They've been around for about 20 years now.

izshadow
06-29-2019, 08:46 AM
NF has been dead for me. Like many others on here, we all noticed the drop in October 2018. So something happened. Not sure what, but it happened to most all of us. I used to work strictly NF for years and years and made bank doing just PSO. Now I added cam, more character listings, stay signed on literally 24/7 and its still shit. I'm lucky to make $50 bucks a week now and I'm lucky to get one camming call a month on this platform. I miss the old days of making like $800 working 20 hours a week. Now I make $50 bucks working 24/7. YaY. Ugh.

MaryElizabeth
06-29-2019, 06:35 PM
51538

caramelcraze
06-30-2019, 12:03 AM
51538
Thank you for making me spit out my coffee laughing. ����

MysteryGirl44
06-30-2019, 03:57 PM
Perfectly safe. They've been around for about 20 years now.

Thanks!

No one has had any issues with how they use credit card info?

Spemily
06-30-2019, 04:15 PM
Thanks!

No one has had any issues with how they use credit card info?

They are a trustworthy company. Nobody has had any issues with them that I've ever heard. There have been no leaks of any of the information they gather, which besides your credit card number will also include your social insurance number (if you are in the US) and photos of your ID.

In fact, it's good that they require this data. Any site providing adult services that doesn't seek to verify your age and that ID of any people in any adult media you upload should not be trusted.

MysteryGirl44
06-30-2019, 04:51 PM
Thanks so much!

Ladybuggie
06-30-2019, 05:20 PM
This has probably been asked before, but I can't find it on the thred right now. How do you non US models manage with not having an US phone number? Do you use a different service? I am in the UK and am not sure how to go on about it. Thanks! x

LilPoundCake
06-30-2019, 05:51 PM
This has probably been asked before, but I can't find it on the thred right now. How do you non US models manage with not having an US phone number? Do you use a different service? I am in the UK and am not sure how to go on about it. Thanks! x

Google voice and texting apps like textnow

I use both with no issue!

Victoria_Gray
06-30-2019, 10:01 PM
I am sorry to hear there has been a decline since October last year. I recently signed up for a profile over there. I have not really done anything with it because I am focusing on another website, but yeah, nothing has happened. It's crickets over here.

I would like to find sites where I didn't have to pay to feature and website traffic was enough to make bank, but I think they may be unicorns.

caramelcraze
07-01-2019, 10:51 AM
Question: Have any of you who use express pay ever had payments sent out of order? I have one from the 27th pending in my bank rn, but haven't received the ones from the 25th or 26th & hit payout both days.

Ladybuggie
07-01-2019, 12:13 PM
Google voice and texting apps like textnow

I use both with no issue!

Thanks! Will give those a go =) x

izshadow
07-01-2019, 12:31 PM
Question: Have any of you who use express pay ever had payments sent out of order? I have one from the 27th pending in my bank rn, but haven't received the ones from the 25th or 26th & hit payout both days.

I've had it happen but its super rare. They say allow up to 7 days I think.

caramelcraze
07-01-2019, 01:36 PM
I've had it happen but its super rare. They say allow up to 7 days I think.

ok, thank you! I'll keep an eye on it! just not used to it all being out of order, ya know?

Ladybuggie
07-01-2019, 03:13 PM
Google voice and texting apps like textnow

I use both with no issue!

Hey! I tried to sign up for both those today but they say the service isn't available in my country =/. Google voice says I need to install hangouts. I did but I don't know how it's meant to work if they don't gove me a US number. I find this so confusing! I attempted it in the past and I think this is the reason I gave up on Niteflirt. I feel so stupid not being able to figure this out.

LilPoundCake
07-01-2019, 07:56 PM
Hmm,
I'm out of ideas there, I'm sorry. :(
I hope someone else can be of more help :o

Spemily
07-01-2019, 08:08 PM
Hey! I tried to sign up for both those today but they say the service isn't available in my country =/. Google voice says I need to install hangouts. I did but I don't know how it's meant to work if they don't gove me a US number. I find this so confusing! I attempted it in the past and I think this is the reason I gave up on Niteflirt. I feel so stupid not being able to figure this out.

As far as I know, Google Voice is only available in the US.

You don't need a US/Canada number to work on NiteFlirt, but if you absolutely want one, you can pay for one through Skype. This will work for taking calls but not for receiving SMSs. I've personally done this, it works just fine.

If you need a US/Canada number that can receive SMSs to sign up for chat you can use an app called Text Now. I haven't personally tried this since I'm in Canada and my cell number works fine.

LilPoundCake
07-01-2019, 08:21 PM
Ok, ladies. Sooooo.. Im getting a request for things like..basicaly making them do drugs and shit. Blackmail as well.
And i've seen drug related clips and what not?
And there's the poppers and drunk(?) catagory
But it says in the playfair basics it's not allowed. I've been through most of the thread and I haven't seen this discussed, as far as what's allowed.
I'm totally fine with doing this kind of play, but I don't want to break tos.

Also, is there anyone I can pm for sites where I can buy model content to use?

LilPoundCake
07-02-2019, 12:46 AM
Okay, went through the flirt thread(forgot that was a thing lol), and found the answer!
whoopsie

Kody_
07-02-2019, 03:53 AM
Hey! I tried to sign up for both those today but they say the service isn't available in my country =/. Google voice says I need to install hangouts. I did but I don't know how it's meant to work if they don't gove me a US number. I find this so confusing! I attempted it in the past and I think this is the reason I gave up on Niteflirt. I feel so stupid not being able to figure this out.

I’m in New Zealand and have just downloaded the TextNow app and it worked fine. It gave me a US number to use :)

Ladybuggie
07-02-2019, 04:49 AM
I’m in New Zealand and have just downloaded the TextNow app and it worked fine. It gave me a US number to use :)

Thanks! That's amazing. Will give it another go. Thanks everyone!

Ladybuggie
07-02-2019, 05:11 AM
Actually I tried again and they don't let me install it from the UK google play store. Meh. I'll find a way around it, and if it's true that I don't need a US number at all then I'm sure I'll figure it out. I want to try though because Niteflirt sure does look worth it.

PixiieGirl
07-02-2019, 06:25 AM
Actually I tried again and they don't let me install it from the UK google play store. Meh. I'll find a way around it, and if it's true that I don't need a US number at all then I'm sure I'll figure it out. I want to try though because Niteflirt sure does look worth it.

I use a UK number :)

LilPoundCake
07-02-2019, 08:59 AM
Actually I tried again and they don't let me install it from the UK google play store. Meh. I'll find a way around it, and if it's true that I don't need a US number at all then I'm sure I'll figure it out. I want to try though because Niteflirt sure does look worth it.
you could look into a vpn maybe?

sexysusie
07-02-2019, 07:34 PM
You don't need a us number. I take calls and chat just fine.

Victoria_Gray
07-02-2019, 08:49 PM
Does anyone have a recorded listing? Does it bring in much money? Any advice for someone considering setting one up (I only have 1 live listing atm).

chloemay
07-03-2019, 06:48 AM
Does anyone have a recorded listing? Does it bring in much money? Any advice for someone considering setting one up (I only have 1 live listing atm).

I have a few, no they don't bring in much money, more like a random surprise. When you go to your Listings page there is an option for it at the top right. You can answer the phone and do it live or upload an mp3 that you have already created. The site 'talks' you through it.

Victoria_Gray
07-03-2019, 07:29 PM
I have a few, no they don't bring in much money, more like a random surprise. When you go to your Listings page there is an option for it at the top right. You can answer the phone and do it live or upload an mp3 that you have already created. The site 'talks' you through it.

Hehe, the site talking you through it...

Think I'll look into this. I have a few things I want to do with listings before I start actively promoting NF, this might be worthwhile.

JenniferVegas
07-07-2019, 04:51 AM
I'm curious what you all charge on niteflirt. I have a FemDom listing. I am basically offering a FemDom/Fetish Therapy based phone service. I DO have a cam with phone line but primarily I am going the phone only route. In the past I have been on SM but being as I am now in nursing school and working in healthcare I NEED to be a bit less on cam and more anonymous because god forbid they find out and fire Me ( yes that has been known to happen) anywho I had My listing at 1.99 and got ALOT of calls but sometimes I honestly sat on My cute little butt with nothing also at 2.99. I'm wondering what you ladies charge and see successful results with I'm looking to make 500-1k a week ( that was My average when I was on there and yes this is a side hustle for Me when I'm able to)

I usually work when able 9am-3pm EST because it's when I have the house to Myself.

Thanks in advance

XoXo

Jenn

euro_princess
07-07-2019, 05:09 AM
I don't have an answer to your question. But I hope it works out.
All I got to say is good for you, girl. I know you from SM (we never talked), but you were such an inspiration. I'm glad you found your way and doing lovely!

MsMeta
07-08-2019, 11:28 AM
Well, fuck. There's a new account on NF that's featuring heavily and using the same photosets as my most successful character. With it being so slow lately I can't afford exclusive content and now I feel like I'm fucked.

Sweet_Sadie
07-08-2019, 11:33 AM
Well, fuck. There's a new account on NF that's featuring heavily and using the same photosets as my most successful character. With it being so slow lately I can't afford exclusive content and now I feel like I'm fucked.

That sucks! Sounds like it's time for you to launch a new girl. :O

izshadow
07-08-2019, 12:01 PM
Well, fuck. There's a new account on NF that's featuring heavily and using the same photosets as my most successful character. With it being so slow lately I can't afford exclusive content and now I feel like I'm fucked.

If you were set up and established before this person with the same photos, you can fight it. Just email support. Good chance they might not even have the paid rights to it.

VelvetRose
07-08-2019, 02:26 PM
Maybe try updating your listing using a pic of yourself that is anonymized? Just take a selfie wearing dramatic lipstick and a pair of sunglasses. Mystery tends to draw guys in. ;)

Red Velvette
07-08-2019, 02:49 PM
If you were set up and established before this person with the same photos, you can fight it. Just email support. Good chance they might not even have the paid rights to it.

Support doesn't care if someone has the same content. That is not an issue on NF.

MsMeta
07-08-2019, 03:19 PM
I'm just annoyed - if she had taken a few minutes and browsed through NF she would have seen my listings and not chosen that content model (I'm logged in & featuring at least 6 hours a day, usually more). What's even worse is that a couple of her thumbnails are the exact same pics I have used for thumbnails and we were on the same page for I don't know how long cause as soon as I saw it I swapped out my photo for another. It's just frustrating. I know that this is what happens with non-exclusive content but it still sucks.

Red Velvette
07-08-2019, 03:28 PM
It does suck. But I'll tell you, I have spent hours scouring NF, thinking I found something no one else had, and then after I set it up, I find it's a really popular model! Happens all the time!

Victoria_Gray
07-09-2019, 08:35 PM
Do the guys ever notice this and say something? Is the using models for characters thing well known outside of forums like this?

I wouldn't have thought it was a thing before reading about it here.

grneyesnfl
07-10-2019, 05:43 AM
Do the guys ever notice this and say something? Is the using models for characters thing well known outside of forums like this?


Many phone sex customers are aware that a lot of women use content. Others are not aware and when they notice two (or more) girls using the same pics, they definitely will ask you about it. You either need to tell them the truth or come up with a good story. Some girls will say they used to model and the photographer (who owns the rights to the pics) must have sold them. Other girls will tell their customer that the other flirt must have stolen her pictures. It can be a mess sometimes, but that's what happens when you don't buy exclusive content or use your own photos. I think many guys don't really care that the girl is using a model. Others want to know that the girl they're talking to is definitely the one in the pictures.

Sweet_Sadie
07-10-2019, 06:02 AM
Many phone sex customers are aware that a lot of women use content. Others are not aware and when they notice two (or more) girls using the same pics, they definitely will ask you about it. You either need to tell them the truth or come up with a good story. Some girls will say they used to model and the photographer (who owns the rights to the pics) must have sold them. Other girls will tell their customer that the other flirt must have stolen her pictures. It can be a mess sometimes, but that's what happens when you don't buy exclusive content or use your own photos. I think many guys don't really care that the girl is using a model. Others want to know that the girl they're talking to is definitely the one in the pictures.

I look at things like this: It's all fantasy. The guys are calling for fantasy, so if they really think that a hot model is shooting her gushy load for him, if he really thinks that she can't stop gobbling his unimpressive meat package, and if he gets his feelings hurt when he realizes that it's all (GASP!) fantasy, then that's his problem! ;D;D;D

MsMeta
07-10-2019, 07:30 AM
I look at things like this: It's all fantasy. The guys are calling for fantasy, so if they really think that a hot model is shooting her gushy load for him, if he really thinks that she can't stop gobbling his unimpressive meat package, and if he gets his feelings hurt when he realizes that it's all (GASP!) fantasy, then that's his problem! ;D;D;D

Ha! I laughed out loud because the guys that I talk to on this one particular account legitimately believe that a smart, beautiful, fun 18 year old girl want to hook up with a 60 year old man for non-monetary reasons. I get a lot of "you should be paying ME" and "you know I'll take care of you baby, let's meet up" and all other kinds of nonsense. It's kinda funny but also pathetic and a little scary; I'm obviously not young and stupid but it worries me about how predatory some of these guys are around young women IRL. I know it's SUPPOSED to be a fantasy but some guys are completely delusional.

Sweet_Sadie
07-10-2019, 07:40 AM
Ha! I laughed out loud because the guys that I talk to on this one particular account legitimately believe that a smart, beautiful, fun 18 year old girl want to hook up with a 60 year old man for non-monetary reasons. I get a lot of "you should be paying ME" and "you know I'll take care of you baby, let's meet up" and all other kinds of nonsense. It's kinda funny but also pathetic and a little scary; I'm obviously not young and stupid but it worries me about how predatory some of these guys are around young women IRL. I know it's SUPPOSED to be a fantasy but some guys are completely delusional.

Ah hell! THOSE are fantasies, too! Yeah, some damaged young lady would be taken in by predatory men. Hell, I just had a predatory man in my life recently, and I'm grown AF. But there's the phone dudes who talk all this shit that they wish they could have said in real life. They create characters too, I've figured out.