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queenelayliah
01-16-2020, 06:13 AM
Also check your private messages. I sent you information on the type of dispatch company I think would work for you. Right now it does not seem like you are earning much income. You need to just take calls for the next 6 - 12 months. You need a busy dispatch company. I sent you one company's website link. Check out their website and requirements. I can send you information on another similar company. Let me know if you would like that.


First, Thank you.

When I checked my private message there was no link and yes please send information on another similar company.

EricaErotica
01-16-2020, 06:46 AM
You're welcome. Let me send you another PM. Not sure what happened with that other one...

I just sent you information and website addresses on FOUR companies. Please confirm you got this.


First, Thank you.

When I checked my private message there was no link and yes please send information on another similar company.

SuperPookie
01-16-2020, 07:16 AM
Just going to address a few of your mistakes

1. If you are not bidding to be on Page 1, Page 2, or Page 3 you are wasting your money. Might as well not bid at all.

2. You are not working the "Favorite List" additions correctly. You have not given your customer anything of value in order to be enticed into making a purchasing decision.

3. Marketing is marketing. You don't need any books specific to the adult industry. SEO is SEO. Get general books on business marketing, online marketing, email marketing. The principles are basically the same regardless of the industry.
I must be using the favorite listings incorrectly as well.
So far I've tried thanking them for favoriting me & also sending a free minute and all that ever did was get freeloaders trying to call and moan & get done in a minute or two. The guys who really wanted to call did regardless.
Also my niche fetish character listings do way better than the one as myself. I've now got 6 characters on NF including me & am hoping to set up another 3 within the next few months.

EricaErotica
01-16-2020, 07:21 AM
Giving away free minutes, is NOT an effective marketing strategy. Generally, it will attract freeloaders. And leave you where you did not make an actual sale. Why do you think most companies give you a percentage off your product or service purchase?


I must be using the favorite listings incorrectly as well.
So far I've tried thanking them for favoriting me & also sending a free minute and all that ever did was get freeloaders trying to call and moan & get done in a minute or two. The guys who really wanted to call did regardless.
Also my niche fetish character listings do way better than the one as myself. I've now got 6 characters on NF including me & am hoping to set up another 3 within the next few months.

EricaErotica
01-16-2020, 07:58 AM
Super Pookie,

To answer your question....

As I said marketing is a VERY involved process. With "Favorites List" or the "Request Goodies List", Niteflirt has created these to assist you in your marketing efforts. These are all basically lead generators as we call them in traditional marketing. When you get a "new lead" or a "prospect", you need to convert them into becoming actual customers. They need to be added to specific "Lists" in your Niteflirt Customers section and you will need to develop a sales funnel. You will need to create various email marketing campaigns (through the Niteflirt Email System) that will essentially be a step-by-step process that nurture this relationship and in time turn someone who visited your listing into a paying customer.

The Sales Funnel Has 5 Key Components

1. Awareness (When some adds you to "Favorites" List he is here in the funnel)

2. Interest (When someone "Requests Goodies" he is here in the funnel)

3. Decision

4. Purchase

5. Loyalty

Growlerpussy
01-16-2020, 09:16 AM
I know phone sex operators who have done ONLY dispatch for like the last 15 - 20 years. They do this NOT because they "need to improve" their phone sex skills. They do this because they have amazing phone sex skills. They are true PSOs. Any thing other than giving "good phone" is a poor use of their skills and their talents. And they have come to recognize this. They accept this fact. They just work dispatch and make EXCELLENT money working for the right combination of dispatch companies.
Thanks for sharing your insights. Do the companys you know hire PSO's from the UK too?

izshadow
01-16-2020, 10:14 AM
You're welcome. Let me send you another PM. Not sure what happened with that other one...

I just sent you information and website addresses on FOUR companies. Please confirm you got this.

May I have those dispatch companies to please.

xxxGothBarbie
01-16-2020, 01:01 PM
Ugh Skype has locked me out of my account saying I violated their terms. Do you gals just make a new one or just go with Discord? It's pretty shitty when i realized it bc I was on a NF call & he wanted to cam :(

Oops LOL I fucked up, I actually put in the wrong skype addy & pass . I'm not locked out afterall yay :)

Red Velvette
01-16-2020, 04:18 PM
Just going to address a few of your mistakes

1. If you are not bidding to be on Page 1, Page 2, or Page 3 you are wasting your money. Might as well not bid at all.



I think it needs to be said that it doesn't have to be on the actual first page of the site, but on the specific sub-category. Such as not on page one of "find women" but on page one, two or three of "extra kinky" or whatever sub-category your listing is in.

caramelcraze
01-16-2020, 05:38 PM
May I have those dispatch companies to please.
I would also love them too if you don’t mind!

caramelcraze
01-17-2020, 02:49 AM
Apparently some guys are having issues with the call button tonight. had 2 separate regulars say they tried to call but it's not working for them.

EricaErotica
01-17-2020, 08:17 AM
For the dispatch companies, there is no "one size" fits all. I personally assessed the lady's skills and her situation and recommended what would be the best companies for HER. I am a former human resources specialist. I worked as a marketing executive for 7 years and then the company I was with promoted me to HR Director. So I am qualified to do this. The best dispatch companies will vary depending on the operator.

EricaErotica
01-17-2020, 08:28 AM
Yes, this would be correct. I was speaking from a marketing perspective. Whenever you have a client looking to boost their ranking in the search engines, they always want to appear on Page 1. But as a marketing firm, we needed to make clients understand that you can also be successful if you aim to get on Page 2 or Page 3. After people get to Page 3, most people stop searching for results. So you as a phone sex operator conducting her own marketing campaign, would want to treat bidding on Niteflirt (or any other platform that has a bidding option) in the same manner. Try to bid for Page 1, Page 2, or Page 3 whatever the category or sub-category might be.


I think it needs to be said that it doesn't have to be on the actual first page of the site, but on the specific sub-category. Such as not on page one of "find women" but on page one, two or three of "extra kinky" or whatever sub-category your listing is in.

PixiieGirl
01-17-2020, 02:44 PM
is there some kinda, art to getting guys to leave feedback? I always ask at the end of shows and honestly, they never do, even if they say thy will??

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-17-2020, 02:53 PM
is there some kinda, art to getting guys to leave feedback? I always ask at the end of shows and honestly, they never do, even if they say thy will??

Some simply won't do it no matter what. Their feedback is visible and some flirts have been known to give them a hard time when they call someone else. As for those who don't mind you can also mention it in your follow up message after the show.

PixiieGirl
01-17-2020, 03:10 PM
Some simply won't do it no matter what. Their feedback is visible and some flirts have been known to give them a hard time when they call someone else. As for those who don't mind you can also mention it in your follow up message after the show.

yeah I guess it could be that - I dont get loads and loads of shows - I just cant seem to get anyone to leave feedback at all at the minute! lol

though after saying that, someone just left one, my first in a month

queenelayliah
01-18-2020, 10:10 PM
I feel kind of bad & since I cant apologize to this flirt. Im just going to apologize here.

So i have a thank you template that I use when I get someone that favorites me. Recently i got a email from a customer stating that i email too much & they wanted me to remove them my mailing list. So i been meaning to update my “thank you template especially after reading what Erica Erotica stated about utilizing your mailing list.

Yesterday I was checking on the one goody i decided to make & post & seen this amazing thumbnail to another flirt goody. I Visited the flirt page & from me clicking around I was added to her mailing list (im bisexual & love older dominant women. I clicked purely out of sexual attraction ).

Anyway the next day I received her “thank you for etc etc” email. When I read it, I was like wow. This is how I want my thank you template to be. She had the following format: A greeting, a picture, introduction paragraph about herself & sexual experiences, a paragraph mentioning how she will be using her mailing address & the option to opt out, a paragraph mention social media, a paragraph for her clips & goodies etc. I thought it was great because i literally the other day just created my character’s twitter & wanted to send email to my customers about it.

I decided to use the same format, i stress format. I did not copy her word from word. I took the same format & wrote my own. My new thank you email template included the format i mentioned except the picture & paragraph mentioning goodies. I sent a mass email with this & letting them know I was online. On a side note I normally will add another flirt to a separate customer list labelled “other flirt” because other flirts have added me in the past.

Anyway, I check my mail later today & i received a email from her stating “oh i see you copied my response”.

Again i admit we have similar format because I copied her *format* & we have some similar words because we both in the bdsm lifestyle. I tried sending her this apology letter but she blocked me, which I understand because in her eyes i ripped her off.

“Sorry I accidentally clicked on one of your goodies & was added to your mailing list. Then i received your email & i was inspired to update my own ‘thank you’ email & used yours as a template. If i offend you im sorry, i will edit it for the future if you want. Again im sorry i really didnt mean to insult you”.


I feel bad because I dont want her thinking im a thief or dirty bitch. In the past I had a male flirt copy my thank you template word from word & i was super pissed. So i wouldn’t do that to another flirt.

Sigh. Just venting & apologizing out loud since I cant apologize to the person. Ignore my post & have a nice day.

laurielegs
01-18-2020, 11:57 PM
I feel kind of bad & since I cant apologize to this flirt. Im just going to apologize here.

So i have a thank you template that I use when I get someone that favorites me. Recently i got a email from a customer stating that i email too much & they wanted me to remove them my mailing list. So i been meaning to update my “thank you template especially after reading what Erica Erotica stated about utilizing your mailing list.

Yesterday I was checking on the one goody i decided to make & post & seen this amazing thumbnail to another flirt goody. I Visited the flirt page & from me clicking around I was added to her mailing list (im bisexual & love older dominant women. I clicked purely out of sexual attraction ).

Anyway the next day I received her “thank you for etc etc” email. When I read it, I was like wow. This is how I want my thank you template to be. She had the following format: A greeting, a picture, introduction paragraph about herself & sexual experiences, a paragraph mentioning how she will be using her mailing address & the option to opt out, a paragraph mention social media, a paragraph for her clips & goodies etc. I thought it was great because i literally the other day just created my character’s twitter & wanted to send email to my customers about it.

I decided to use the same format, i stress format. I did not copy her word from word. I took the same format & wrote my own. My new thank you email template included the format i mentioned except the picture & paragraph mentioning goodies. I sent a mass email with this & letting them know I was online. On a side note I normally will add another flirt to a separate customer list labelled “other flirt” because other flirts have added me in the past.

Anyway, I check my mail later today & i received a email from her stating “oh i see you copied my response”.

Again i admit we have similar format because I copied her *format* & we have some similar words because we both in the bdsm lifestyle. I tried sending her this apology letter but she blocked me, which I understand because in her eyes i ripped her off.

“Sorry I accidentally clicked on one of your goodies & was added to your mailing list. Then i received your email & i was inspired to update my own ‘thank you’ email & used yours as a template. If i offend you im sorry, i will edit it for the future if you want. Again im sorry i really didnt mean to insult you”.


I feel bad because I dont want her thinking im a thief or dirty bitch. In the past I had a male flirt copy my thank you template word from word & i was super pissed. So i wouldn’t do that to another flirt.

Sigh. Just venting & apologizing out loud since I cant apologize to the person. Ignore my post & have a nice day.

You could post to her in the flirt forum (in your account go to the bottom and click help and forum. She can still read what you post there I believe even if blocked. (be aware though some flirts aren't too friendly sometimes but overall I've had good experiences there).

SuperPookie
01-19-2020, 05:34 PM
I apologize for hijacking the thread but how to you go about setting up a mailing list that will automatically send out a message if someone clicks on your Goodies?

laurielegs
01-19-2020, 06:15 PM
I apologize for hijacking the thread but how to you go about setting up a mailing list that will automatically send out a message if someone clicks on your Goodies?

There is no way to do that with the goodie feature. You can do that with a Pay-To-View button. I have a $1 voice sample on my profile for that reason. It adds them to my list so they get an email when I send to my customer list.

Victoria_Gray
01-19-2020, 10:02 PM
Did anyone try to set up a new listing last week?

I went to set one up, and clicked 'submit' then I couldn't see it on the listings page - not even pending - before I emailed NF about it. They had no idea what I was talking about and instead bought up a deleted listing which I didn't want anymore which is now on my page.

I'm curious if anyone else had this problem? It took me ages to get the wording and photos, etc. right I don't really want to re-write and re-submit the listing if there is something wrong with their system, but the support seems pretty slow and doesn't seem to listen to me, let alone give me answers to my questions.

sexysusie
01-20-2020, 12:47 AM
I have a guy who likes blackmail fantasy. He ordered a short custom but only after he'd paid did he say he wanted me to ask him in the vid to email me his real name, email address and phone number! I tried to sort of hint he should look for me online (as my name is the same and I'm easily findable), but he just wasn't getting the hint. He wants me to upload the vid to nf. If he contacted me on twitter see i could say i'll send via my special download link and that i can't physically ask him on nf to send me personal details cause they will ban me. So now i have the choice - do i refund and def this one, or do i risk saying what he wants and sending it via nf? It'd be pretty easy for them to spot it and say hey you were soliciting for offsite contact (I wasn't, he paid via NF!). Any way around this?

MaryElizabeth
01-20-2020, 01:33 AM
These types make me nervous, they give sooo much information. I really don't like it, as soon as I can I delete their info, I don't want that shit anywhere near me. For situations like yours - your relationship with NF is worth so much more than your relationship with just one guy or the value of one purchase. I honestly don't think anything would come of it but anything that is anywhere near the line is just not worth it. Send him a NF referral link.



I have a guy who likes blackmail fantasy. He ordered a short custom but only after he'd paid did he say he wanted me to ask him in the vid to email me his real name, email address and phone number! I tried to sort of hint he should look for me online (as my name is the same and I'm easily findable), but he just wasn't getting the hint. He wants me to upload the vid to nf. If he contacted me on twitter see i could say i'll send via my special download link and that i can't physically ask him on nf to send me personal details cause they will ban me. So now i have the choice - do i refund and def this one, or do i risk saying what he wants and sending it via nf? It'd be pretty easy for them to spot it and say hey you were soliciting for offsite contact (I wasn't, he paid via NF!). Any way around this?

caramelcraze
01-20-2020, 02:11 AM
Going to put in some serious hours on my phone lines this week. It's been slow when I am usually online so i'm switching it up completely just to see if anything changes. wish me luck!

MaryElizabeth
01-20-2020, 11:33 AM
it'll be a link that looks like this - https://www.niteflirt.com/pid/xxxxxxx , will at least get it into his head your on NF

52620

Growlerpussy
01-20-2020, 11:25 PM
I don't get it how their algorithm work. I have a few profiles and my best one is in the bdsm categorie. Sells a few goodies every day, PTV too. Guys leaving feedback, thumbs up and stars. Get at least 10 calls on there.
Then I have another one, same categorie. No goodies on sale, no ptv, only phone. Maybe 2 or 3 calls a day. and excactly that profile in mostly on the first 2 pages, with such a low bid that I can believe it.
The other one doesn't even make it in the first 10 pages without a bid of $2 per click ......

I had 5 calls (at least 10 minutes each) on the my best profile yesterday in a row. I did'nt move at all. I checked again after 30 minutes and an hour, no change.
The other one stays on top without a call for hours and hours.

queenelayliah
01-21-2020, 12:55 AM
Going to put in some serious hours on my phone lines this week. It's been slow when I am usually online so i'm switching it up completely just to see if anything changes. wish me luck!

Good luck. Let us know how it goes, because i plan on doing the same thing.

yesmisslibby
01-21-2020, 07:17 PM
Is anyone else saving for school? I'm waiting to hear back whether I got into biology programs for this fall. Just curious whether anyone else is on a similar journey and what your aspirations are.

Victoria_Gray
01-22-2020, 02:03 AM
Is anyone else saving for school? I'm waiting to hear back whether I got into biology programs for this fall. Just curious whether anyone else is on a similar journey and what your aspirations are.


Good luck! :)

chloemay
01-22-2020, 12:40 PM
2018/2019. I made $1000 less on NF in 2019 vs 2018, but I was available a lot less for calls due to personal issues. Only 2 hours in the mornings many days, and overall the sites I work I made just over $1000 more this year vs 2018 which astonished me when I added it all up. I do offer cam and lots of video goodies and get the occasional drive-by big Tributes. There was no massive drop from 2018 to 2019 for me, hourly it was probably a lot better.

BadBitch
01-29-2020, 09:22 PM
I must be using the favorite listings incorrectly as well.
So far I've tried thanking them for favoriting me & also sending a free minute and all that ever did was get freeloaders trying to call and moan & get done in a minute or two. The guys who really wanted to call did regardless.
Also my niche fetish character listings do way better than the one as myself. I've now got 6 characters on NF including me & am hoping to set up another 3 within the next few months.

And that's why I don't give away free minutes. Guys take advantage of it and then always want it. Nope.

BadBitch
01-29-2020, 09:39 PM
That sucks. Why do you think this decline is happening?

Sadly, I don't think that men are paying for porn anymore.

SuperPookie
01-30-2020, 12:18 PM
Is anyone else saving for school? I'm waiting to hear back whether I got into biology programs for this fall. Just curious whether anyone else is on a similar journey and what your aspirations are.
Good luck! I'm hoping to go back to school this year myself

Destinyfulfilled
02-03-2020, 02:48 AM
Not everyone is cut out to be an independent phone sex operator. If you do not know how to create websites, write blogs, produce content, and market you are not going to earn top income as an independent phone sex operator. Niteflirt is designed for people who understand the indy hustle. If you cannot learn how to do any of these things, I might have a dispatch phone sex company for you.
What is it

Victoria_Gray
02-03-2020, 03:50 PM
I don't get it how their algorithm work. I have a few profiles and my best one is in the bdsm categorie. Sells a few goodies every day, PTV too. Guys leaving feedback, thumbs up and stars. Get at least 10 calls on there.
Then I have another one, same categorie. No goodies on sale, no ptv, only phone. Maybe 2 or 3 calls a day. and excactly that profile in mostly on the first 2 pages, with such a low bid that I can believe it.
The other one doesn't even make it in the first 10 pages without a bid of $2 per click ......

I had 5 calls (at least 10 minutes each) on the my best profile yesterday in a row. I did'nt move at all. I checked again after 30 minutes and an hour, no change.
The other one stays on top without a call for hours and hours.

I am feeling this today. Posted a few new listings yesterday and one of them is already tracking better than my second best listing. Might be the categories though, as they're across different ones.

caramelcraze
02-11-2020, 08:02 AM
I've got a tough question: Anyone using google fi with a pixel 4 or 4xl successfully on niteflirt? I am thinking about switching over & changing phones but worry about both audio quality (my friend has one and when he's on wifi of any kind it's very choppy if I'm the one who initiates the call, which would be disastrous for nf calls made by customers to me) & using google voice with nf (wouldn't be changing my # but would be switching it over to fi). Anyone have experience with this? Help!

ep2002
02-12-2020, 02:08 PM
What day does NF pay?

I'm on Express pay & last week they paid me today (Wedns.), but today nothing. :(

Spemily
02-12-2020, 03:26 PM
What day does NF pay?

I'm on Express pay & last week they paid me today (Wedns.), but today nothing. :(

Express Pay pays out every day and the money can take up to 10 days to reach your bank account. The money will be deducted from your NF account around 1 am PST.

ep2002
02-12-2020, 03:38 PM
Express Pay pays out every day and the money can take up to 10 days to reach your bank account. The money will be deducted from your NF account around 1 am PST.

Yeh I finally found the area where it lists the day it leaves my account & it looks like it takes 5 days. To me that is NOT express at all LOL

Why does their ACH take so long?

With other camming sites it takes like 48-72 hrs.

bedstuyqueen
02-12-2020, 04:32 PM
Anybody working all star weekend in Chicago this week?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-12-2020, 04:58 PM
Anybody working all star weekend in Chicago this week?

Ma'am, this is a Wendy's.

naomi_doll
02-12-2020, 05:05 PM
Is there a way to create a texting only listing? And can you bid on placement with it?

Midwest-Mistress
02-12-2020, 06:34 PM
Yeh I finally found the area where it lists the day it leaves my account & it looks like it takes 5 days. To me that is NOT express at all LOL

Why does their ACH take so long?

With other camming sites it takes like 48-72 hrs.
That's what I've been trying to figure out as well... All these years, and it can't even live up to the name Smh

Midwest-Mistress
02-12-2020, 06:40 PM
Is there a way to create a texting only listing? And can you bid on placement with it?
Nope... It's been what 2-3 years since NF rolled out the texting/chat feature and models still can't even change their price wtf :O we're worth more than .48 a text lol.

MsMeta
02-12-2020, 08:17 PM
Sure it takes NF almost a week to get our "express" payments into our bank accounts and yeah we can't have a chat only listing or change our chat price...but you guys, we have a PINK HEART on the title bar!! They're really working hard over there, we need to be patient with them.

Victoria_Gray
02-13-2020, 01:47 AM
Nope... It's been what 2-3 years since NF rolled out the texting/chat feature and models still can't even change their price wtf :O we're worth more than .48 a text lol.

To be fair, TTM charges people .25 a message. It could be worse.

naomi_doll
02-13-2020, 08:37 AM
Thank you everyone! I've heard you could just make a normal listing, put text only in it and then make the phone price really high. I might give that a go, but we'll see. I still need to set up a cam listing too. I've just been loading videos and doing well, so I want to see what other things I can do besides phone.

Spemily
02-13-2020, 09:11 AM
Thank you everyone! I've heard you could just make a normal listing, put text only in it and then make the phone price really high. I might give that a go, but we'll see. I still need to set up a cam listing too. I've just been loading videos and doing well, so I want to see what other things I can do besides phone.

There's no need to put the price high. You don't need to turn your phone listing on in order to chat. Make a phone listing, fill it with descriptive text, things that will entice guys and things that will make your listing come up in search and then place your chat button at several spots in the listing. Then, set it to "mail only" and never log in to take calls.

naomi_doll
02-13-2020, 09:13 AM
There's no need to put the price high. You don't need to turn your phone listing on in order to chat. Make a phone listing, fill it with descriptive text, things that will entice guys and things that will make your listing come up in search and then place your chat button at several spots in the listing. Then, set it to "mail only" and never log in to take calls.

Thank you! I don't need to turn phone on to bid either, right?

Midwest-Mistress
02-13-2020, 10:38 AM
To be fair, TTM charges people .25 a message. It could be worse.
It could be worse, but it could be better, always room for improvement yes? :D Which is why I don't text on TTM, I use webchat/vchat which we can charge PPM rates & flat rate packages like on the phone... On NF you cannot...