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Paradoxx
06-24-2020, 07:54 AM
Holy shit! Wooow. If you dont mind me asking do you drive your own traffic to niteflirt?
I do use my Twitter shoutouts and keep them toggled on for the most part, but I bid A LOT when I'm available overnight and that gets me most of my traffic IMO.
Victoria_Gray
06-24-2020, 09:55 PM
I have a bunch of listings for niche fetishes - say feet, or lingerie, or whatever - and they don't get many calls. Most of the people who want to talk about that particular fetish just call through my main femdom line.
My question is, should I keep those lines open for the odd call, or is it better to only have listings that are popular for the algos?
arielbriel
06-24-2020, 10:56 PM
I have the SAME question, I basically only get called on two lines. ^
Growlerpussy
06-25-2020, 06:11 AM
I have a bunch of listings for niche fetishes - say feet, or lingerie, or whatever - and they don't get many calls. Most of the people who want to talk about that particular fetish just call through my main femdom line.
My question is, should I keep those lines open for the odd call, or is it better to only have listings that are popular for the algos?
I would keep them open, thats how they found you. If i need more feedback and stars on my main Listing, i lower the main listing price for pence and keep the odd listings higher. Thats when they call your main listing for the fetish they want.
Except you have a fetish listing that requires a way higher price. Just have a look at other flirt profiles, the most feedback is always on the main Listing, even when they had all the listing done at the same time.
Thats my opinion.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-25-2020, 06:34 AM
They tend to call whichever listing is the least expensive. That's something I keep in mind when I choose price points. If I want to go the inexpensive route I then keep that lower price range in the same account. All under $1.99 a min. With one listing set at $5.99 a minute. That higher rate will get a few calls a month and it's worth it to have. I set my more expensive rates all on a different account and keep the prices about the same. And I also have one listing priced much higher than the others.
I use to max out the number of listings for each account but too many of them sat without calls. NF has once said that the most successful accounts don't have that many listings. For me I've found that to be true and started to strategize more based on that. I begin creating unique listings that told a story. I try to avoid the copy paste routine. This way I get more sales on multiple listings.
Victoria_Gray
06-25-2020, 06:32 PM
I use to max out the number of listings for each account but too many of them sat without calls. NF has once said that the most successful accounts don't have that many listings. For me I've found that to be true and started to strategize more based on that. I begin creating unique listings that told a story. I try to avoid the copy paste routine. This way I get more sales on multiple listings.
I have had guys who call more expensive listings because they want to prove their loyalty, but, this isn't that common.
Where do we go to get data directly from niteflirt like that the most successful flirts have the least listings? I am so out of the loop over here.
Spemily
06-25-2020, 08:56 PM
I have had guys who call more expensive listings because they want to prove their loyalty, but, this isn't that common.
Where do we go to get data directly from niteflirt like that the most successful flirts have the least listings? I am so out of the loop over here.
Very occasionally they will post a comment or thread it on the NF message boards. It was more common years ago, but they will still occasionally chime in with a couple of sentences here and there.
Hi lovely ladies! This is my first post on this amazing site, after some months of lurking. This forum is a goldmine, I love how you all help each other to take that money out off of men's pockets^^ and I'm so grateful I found it!!
So, I'm kind of new to the sex work industry, and I plan to create a niteflirt account, I read this entire thread and I'm in the process of reading it a second time. I have some questions and hope not to be redundant.
Some of my questions are mostly for foreign/non-english native niteflirt pso, as I am myself a West Euro (non-uk) girl:
I would like to know how do you take calls, if it is on a landline, a mobile phone, and/or via wifi with an app (as I understood Textnow is available in Europe? Not sure if it is possible to get a US number with it though?). And what are your experiences with these devices, is the sound fine, do you prefer/dislike any, do you use some speakers/micro?
As for having multiple characters, I'd like to know how do you manage to not be recognized, especially if you have a specific foreign accent and there is no/very few other girls from your country? Do you keep them in strictly separate categories (and how specific? Like fendom/submissive/GFE and/or by features (race/BBW/tight,etc)?Or is it really an issue?
One of my greatest fear is not to be able to understand people, there are certain accents, like British ones (for what I know so far), that I struggle to understand, I guess for a domme character it is less of a problem and it can be part of the domination fantasy to tell guys to talk slower and articulate more lol. I fear to not be understandable myself as well. Did some of you have this kind of issues? How has it gone?
On the other hand I know my accent can sound sexy and I could market it (maybe just for one character though?), but I also understood that guys like to know that you live nearby them.. I've read one of you market her British accent, I don't recall her name though, but if you read me, would you like to tell me how do you think this particularity is beneficial to your business? And I also would like to hear the experiences of the other foreign ladies as well. Do some of you tell that you live in the US as an expat and broad a whole story around that?
I have some more general questions too:
It's been some weeks now since I've researched about all this and oddly I became more clueless of how is a vanilla call run! I guess of course it's different every time, but maybe is there one or more general pattern? Do you fake blowjob and fuck sounds? If so, would you mind sharing how?
I plan my main character, with my real photos, to be a domme but that's not my personnality and I really struggle figuring out which type would suit me the best (bratty princess or sensual domme). Can some of you share their experiences about this? Maybe some of you mix the two types in one persona?
And finally I would be grateful if one of you would send me some links of where to buy some license free photo sets :)
I hope my questions don't bother you/ are not too intrusive, this is not my intention, and I look forward to hear from you ladies!
Spemily
06-26-2020, 11:05 AM
I would like to know how do you take calls, if it is on a landline, a mobile phone, and/or via wifi with an app (as I understood Textnow is available in Europe? Not sure if it is possible to get a US number with it though?). And what are your experiences with these devices, is the sound fine, do you prefer/dislike any, do you use some speakers/micro?
I'm in Canada and take my calls on a cell phone. When I needed an additional phone number, I got a Skype number and selected a US number. That worked fairly well.
As for having multiple characters, I'd like to know how do you manage to not be recognized, especially if you have a specific foreign accent and there is no/very few other girls from your country? Do you keep them in strictly separate categories (and how specific? Like fendom/submissive/GFE and/or by features (race/BBW/tight,etc)?Or is it really an issue?
If you choose photos that look quite different and project a different type of personality, you won't get a ton of overlapping callers. Sometimes, if I have a very loyal regular who calls one of my more expensive accounts, I'll block him on the cheaper ones. Only a super regular guy would recognize my voice and I don't want him to realize he can be calling me for cheaper somewhere else.
Other guys, I don't bother to block. I have had many guys call more than one of my accounts. Sometimes they'll call me repeatedly for a few months on one account and then a year later do the same thing on a second account. They never seem to notice.
One of my greatest fear is not to be able to understand people, there are certain accents, like British ones (for what I know so far), that I struggle to understand, I guess for a domme character it is less of a problem and it can be part of the domination fantasy to tell guys to talk slower and articulate more lol. I fear to not be understandable myself as well. Did some of you have this kind of issues? How has it gone?
The vast majority of guys on NiteFlirt are American, so you won't have to deal with British accents very often. You do get a variety of American accents, though, including Southern ones. I don't have problems with accents, but I still get guys I can't understand all the time. It's usually because of noise on the line, low volume or their insistence on whispering or talking in a breathy "sissy" voice. You do your best to figure out what they said, you ask them to repeat themselves. Sometimes, asking them repeatedly will make them hang up, but there's not too much you can do about it besides try your best. Have a good headset, be in a quiet environment and use your brain to try to fill in the blanks when you miss some words.
On the other hand I know my accent can sound sexy and I could market it (maybe just for one character though?), but I also understood that guys like to know that you live nearby them.. I've read one of you market her British accent, I don't recall her name though, but if you read me, would you like to tell me how do you think this particularity is beneficial to your business? And I also would like to hear the experiences of the other foreign ladies as well. Do some of you tell that you live in the US as an expat and broad a whole story around that?
Guys who are obsessed with finding flirts who live nearby them are not good customers, so don't worry about that. Some guys will not want someone with a "foreign" accent and might hang up on you anyway. We all experience that. They make a call, your voice or your accent isn't what they want and they hang up quickly. Just something you need to accept. You can try marketing your accent or not and then see which seems to work better for you.
The US and Canada are both full of people from all over the world, so you can certainly say that you live in North America even if you don't. However, keep in mind that it's easy to be caught in that lie and that might make some guys feel tricked. It's probably not worth it as I don't think most guys really care where you live. It's more about what you sound like and what you can deliver on a call.
It's been some weeks now since I've researched about all this and oddly I became more clueless of how is a vanilla call run! I guess of course it's different every time, but maybe is there one or more general pattern? Do you fake blowjob and fuck sounds? If so, would you mind sharing how?
Every call is different. Every guy wants something different. A big part of being good at his job is learning how to figure out what a guy wants. A "vanilla" call is just like any other call. The guy doesn't just say "I would like a vanilla call" and then sits back while you do all the talking. You ask questions, you flirt, you make suggestions and you see where the call goes. Some guys want to describe doing things to you, some guys want you to describe doing things to them. Some want to roleplay having sex together in the moment, some guys want to talk about sexy things while engaging in mutual masturbation.
Guys who want to hear sounds will usually say something to make it clear. I keep a small dildo on hand for making blowjob sounds. For slapping sounds I usually clap my hands or slap my thigh. I always have a glass of water for gulping or wet sounds. When I used to do a lot of submissive calls, I had various implements on hand to make sounds. These days, though, if I can't make a matching sound, I just tell them I've upgraded to a headset with active noise cancellation and explain that maybe that's why they can't hear my vibrator or my wet pussy or whatever.
I plan my main character, with my real photos, to be a domme but that's not my personnality and I really struggle figuring out which type would suit me the best (bratty princess or sensual domme). Can some of you share their experiences about this? Maybe some of you mix the two types in one persona?
Any type of character is possible, but I'd suggest not making your main character be something that isn't at all like you and that you don't know much about. A lot of callers want to feel like you are authentically into what you are offering and really understand the fetish. Specialize in something you really understand.
And finally I would be grateful if one of you would send me some links of where to buy some license free photo sets :)
These places come and go quickly. The two sites I used in the past are both gone. Try searching for adult content providers on both Google and Bing.
Thank you Spemily, it helps me a lot! I really have to remember not taking things personally, of course I can't please to everybody, and to not overthink things, just follow the vibe and be flirty. Actually I think I'm gonna note that on a paper and paste it at the wall lol.
And yes I might not be as good as I want as a domme. I think I just will try out different types of characters before deciding which one will be my main.
Great tips about the headset with noise cancellation, thanks!
queenelayliah
06-26-2020, 07:27 PM
I do use my Twitter shoutouts and keep them toggled on for the most part, but I bid A LOT when I'm available overnight and that gets me most of my traffic IMO.
Thanks for responding. I was really hoping you blogged for i could get some pointers lol. Sadly i don't do social media for my characters.
Victoria_Gray
06-29-2020, 08:50 PM
Very occasionally they will post a comment or thread it on the NF message boards. It was more common years ago, but they will still occasionally chime in with a couple of sentences here and there.
Ooh, good to know.
I have been getting the emails from their message boards for ages and hardly ever open them. Yesterday I had a good read though and was like, 'this is a good spot, what have you been doing Victoria!?'
yesmisslibby
07-07-2020, 09:26 AM
Hey I know I'm filing late but I'm filing taxes in Canada and I can't find any info (in this thread, on niteflirt, online in general) about how to file properly from here. Honestly I'm fatally chaotic with papers and I can't remember whether or not I received any kind of tax related document from nf a few months ago. Like, is there something I should be searching my apartment for? The only info I found was for Americans. I'm sorry for being a mess, thanks in advance.
Spemily
07-07-2020, 09:51 AM
Hey I know I'm filing late but I'm filing taxes in Canada and I can't find any info (in this thread, on niteflirt, online in general) about how to file properly from here. Honestly I'm fatally chaotic with papers and I can't remember whether or not I received any kind of tax related document from nf a few months ago. Like, is there something I should be searching my apartment for? The only info I found was for Americans. I'm sorry for being a mess, thanks in advance.
NF is an American company and does not send tax documents to anyone but American flirts, so you won't have received anything from them.
You'll be filing in Canada as self-employed. If you're using software like TurboTax, it will walk you through filing as self-employed. You'll need to know exactly how much money NF sent you over 2019, you'll need to convert it into Canadian dollars.
Teddy_Bear
07-07-2020, 02:09 PM
Any Niteflirt chicks know if guys can see attachments on PTV mail before they pay? Or do they just see that an attachment is available if they pay? I知 setting up a game but it痴 saying to attach the media to the message that gets sent out.
I知 so confused.
Spemily
07-07-2020, 03:28 PM
Any Niteflirt chicks know if guys can see attachments on PTV mail before they pay? Or do they just see that an attachment is available if they pay? I’m setting up a game but it’s saying to attach the media to the message that gets sent out.
I’m so confused.
PTV stands for Pay To View, meaning they have to pay in order to view the body of the message and any attachments. If you want them to be able to see the attachment before paying, use a Payment Request.
Teddy_Bear
07-07-2020, 03:36 PM
PTV stands for Pay To View, meaning they have to pay in order to view the body of the message and any attachments. If you want them to be able to see the attachment before paying, use a Payment Request.
Thank you for your response. I was trying to use the Payment Request form my bad. So I attach the media and guys will only see the description and price when clicking the button on my profile, is that correct? Then they can choose to pay and begin the game.
Spemily
07-07-2020, 06:36 PM
Thank you for your response. I was trying to use the Payment Request form my bad. So I attach the media and guys will only see the description and price when clicking the button on my profile, is that correct? Then they can choose to pay and begin the game.
That's right. Only the subject line, the price and the description will be visible to the customer before he pays. Anything you put in the body of the email and any attachments will only be visible after he pays.
VivienDeVexo
07-09-2020, 08:42 AM
Can I change my name on Niteflirt or do I have to open a new account? If not, can I delete the current account and use the same credit card for the new account?
Spemily
07-09-2020, 08:57 AM
Can I change my name on Niteflirt or do I have to open a new account? If not, can I delete the current account and use the same credit card for the new account?
Yes, you can change your name.
You can have up to three accounts that use the same phone number, but that includes deleted or closed accounts as well, so never close an account. Just change the name and start over.
VivienDeVexo
07-09-2020, 11:00 AM
Yes, you can change your name.
You can have up to three accounts that use the same phone number, but that includes deleted or closed accounts as well, so never close an account. Just change the name and start over.
Thanks for the info. I sent a message to support. I couldn't find how to change the name so I assume they have to do it.
Spemily
07-09-2020, 11:04 AM
Thanks for the info. I sent a message to support. I couldn't find how to change the name so I assume they have to do it.
No, you can do it yourself.
On your account page, click on Edit Account Info (it's near the top, next to where it says "Welcome back username!") then enter your password when prompted. The top field on the page is Member Name. Simply change it there and then click Save at the bottom.
izshadow
07-09-2020, 11:22 AM
Feels good to block people on NF when they just have no common sense. Asking me if I'm available on Skype (I dont know what does it say on NF?) and then the whole well I cant find you, send me a link. I'm not sending you a link. You can find me under your history/account when you log in. I'm also signed on and on page one of NF cams... so I mean.... I'm not going to do the foot work for you for free.
VivienDeVexo
07-09-2020, 01:41 PM
No, you can do it yourself.
On your account page, click on Edit Account Info (it's near the top, next to where it says "Welcome back username!") then enter your password when prompted. The top field on the page is Member Name. Simply change it there and then click Save at the bottom.
Thank you! I never noticed that, I thought I had looked everywhere!
Growlerpussy
07-10-2020, 12:12 AM
No, you can do it yourself.
On your account page, click on Edit Account Info (it's near the top, next to where it says "Welcome back username!") then enter your password when prompted. The top field on the page is Member Name. Simply change it there and then click Save at the bottom.
I feel so stupid now. I actually have so many accounts on there and never in the world it has cross my mind to just CHANGE my name on it. I know from other sites that it is not possible and thought that might be for all of them. You honestly had to see my face when I was reading your comment .... immediately tried it and screamed a very loud FFS!
Thank you thank you thank you
VivienDeVexo
07-11-2020, 06:29 AM
Got some cool news from support - I messaged and asked about using DeliveryCode as an alternative to Amazon wishlists. They approved it! :)
" Hello Hayden,
Thank you for your message. We do allow DeliveryCode wishlists to be posted on your content so you're welcome to include it on your listings!
We appreciate that you have taken the time to double check. Please let us know if we can be of any further assistance to you. Have a great week!
Kindly,
Play Fair
NiteFlirt ョ, Speak to Your Desire"
Is this alternative to Amazon still allowed? I haven't added my amazon wishlist anywhere because I don't want to go throught the hassle of a PO Box to hide my address. This site says it keeps addresses and names hidden. Does anyone use this site for their wish list?
Spemily
07-11-2020, 07:44 AM
Is this alternative to Amazon still allowed? I haven't added my amazon wishlist anywhere because I don't want to go throught the hassle of a PO Box to hide my address. This site says it keeps addresses and names hidden. Does anyone use this site for their wish list?
Delivery Code is not recommended. It is slow and unreliable and difficult to use. Also, since they added the ability to tip, it is no longer NF compliant.
Amazon is not safe. It's true that your name and address aren't revealed on the page that displays your wish list, but there are countless ways that information can be leaked by Amazon, third party sellers and couriers.
Unless you have a safe place to direct packages, it's hard to have a safe wish list.
sexysusie
07-11-2020, 02:56 PM
Delivery Code is not recommended. It is slow and unreliable and difficult to use. Also, since they added the ability to tip, it is no longer NF compliant.
Amazon is not safe. It's true that your name and address aren't revealed on the page that displays your wish list, but there are countless ways that information can be leaked by Amazon, third party sellers and couriers.
Unless you have a safe place to direct packages, it's hard to have a safe wish list.
I allow items from 3rd party sellers and just have everything shipped to a friend's business address in another town. In the UK at least you can also give the address of certain shops that allow for pickups :) Allowing 3rd party sellers DOES mean they can see the address, be aware of this and never use your own personal address or real name.
VivienDeVexo
07-12-2020, 07:23 AM
I allow items from 3rd party sellers and just have everything shipped to a friend's business address in another town. In the UK at least you can also give the address of certain shops that allow for pickups :) Allowing 3rd party sellers DOES mean they can see the address, be aware of this and never use your own personal address or real name.
My plan is to use a shipping service I found on another thread that is thousands of miles away. They would ship packages to me as needed and allow for stage names. My gift list items are more expensive so the shipping I have to pay is worth it. That was advised by someone on the other thread. You pay by weight to have it shipped to you so make it worth it!
I'll use Amazon on Niteflirt or other sites it's allowed. On my website I will have a gift list for other stores from around the web.
Thanks for the advice!
Staci
07-12-2020, 12:21 PM
Also has anyone created their own phone sex number/phone sex line? What site did you use? I tried using Google but I could only find a site called paypercall.com and It was like $500+ dollars to make a phone sex line.
The reason why I’m asking is because I’m about to make my own phone sex blog to drive traffic to my phone sex characters, how ever some of the things I talk about is not niteflirt friendly and the only site thats fetish friendly is talk to m, but talk to me pays out a very low amount so I thought maybe I could make my own phone sex line and get all of the money myself.
I realize that this is posted in the NF thread, so admin feel free to move my response.
You will never get 'all of the money' yourself because of credit card processing fees regardless of the route you go. But you can keep a larger portion for sure!
You can obtain your own TFN(s) from a virtual service that will forward your incoming calls to any phone number(s) you designate. While there are a number of companies that offer this service, the one you choose is dependent upon your individual needs. Some offer a variety of plans, included unlimited minute plans, while others charge you by-the-minute after the minimum plan minutes are exhausted. For someone just starting out and using a small number of minutes, you might look into a small plan with someone like Kall 8 or RingCentral. You can always change plans or transport your TFN to another company as your needs change.
As for credit card processing, I agree that services like Pay Per Call, Bill Per Call, etc charge a large start up and monthly maintenance fees, and offer only monthly pay-outs. As an solo independent, you may want to consider processing your calls through a third-party biller such as Adult Phone Pals option for independents (https://www.adultphonepal.com/AppContent/HTML/ipso_AT1.html) (not an affiliate link) or OLCI/Web-Tokens (email
[email protected]) billing for independent operators.
I'm sure you are aware that you would not be able to offer alternative billing on a website if you link to it from your NF profile, but I'll state this for anyone else who may be reading and not be aware.
Not to discurage you, but don't expect a nuch traffic to your new website unless you are planning to advertise and market it. I know they say 'build it and they will come', but it's a lot harder than you think. Finding you will be like finding a needle in a haystack unless you promote.
Good luck!
VivienDeVexo
07-14-2020, 09:16 AM
I just launched 3 very different characters using images I purchased. I am excited to not have to be "myself" and feel like I can branch out more in other fetishes. I found I am taking more chances and making faster decisions when it isn't my face on the character. I suffer from perfectionism which makes it difficult to put out product and even turn my lines on. I am an html girl so making the profiles was easy and fun! I even have a dozen goody bags finished and I hadn't launched a single one for my "real" account. I was so intimidated that I would fuck it up I didn't even try. After I get some ratings on these 3 I will be using the profits to launch several more. Thank you to everyone for the advice you've been sharing!
queenelayliah
07-14-2020, 02:16 PM
I just launched 3 very different characters using images I purchased. I am an html girl so making the profiles was easy and fun! I even have a dozen goody bags finished and I hadn't launched a single one for my "real" account.
^ Where did you get your pictures from I know some sites went down. Also do you do html for other models?
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Hi,
Can i ask a quick question? Has anyone here ever create their own phone sex blog to drive traffic to their nf characters? My only concern is with my blog is how do i tell the customers im a pso? Do i just say out right on the front page, oh “hi I'm Layla the bimbo thanks for checking out my blog call me at xxxx!” Or do i do it more subtle?
Any tips would be appreciated. I went through the entire nf thread and i saw some great tip for blogging but just not how to label yourself if that makes senses
VivienDeVexo
07-14-2020, 02:30 PM
After making a dozen goody bags and having them approved, I realize members can see the file names. Some of them say things like charactersname_with_hearts_on_BooBs.jpg but others say randomgirlsname_094.jpg because I changed my character's name. Is there a way to change file names on NF? I am dreading doing them all over. If I change out the files and reupload the same pic with a new name will I need to resubmit for approval?
Do members really care what the file says?
Spemily
07-14-2020, 03:18 PM
After making a dozen goody bags and having them approved, I realize members can see the file names. Some of them say things like charactersname_with_hearts_on_BooBs.jpg but others say randomgirlsname_094.jpg because I changed my character's name. Is there a way to change file names on NF? I am dreading doing them all over. If I change out the files and reupload the same pic with a new name will I need to resubmit for approval?
Do members really care what the file says?
Yes, in the file manager, you can rename files and the name will automatically change in any goody bag that contains that file.
VivienDeVexo
07-14-2020, 03:31 PM
^ Where did you get your pictures from I know some sites went down. Also do you do html for other models?
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Hi,
Can i ask a quick question? Has anyone here ever create their own phone sex blog to drive traffic to their nf characters? My only concern is with my blog is how do i tell the customers im a pso? Do i just say out right on the front page, oh “hi I'm Layla the bimbo thanks for checking out my blog call me at xxxx!” Or do i do it more subtle?
Any tips would be appreciated. I went through the entire nf thread and i saw some great tip for blogging but just not how to label yourself if that makes senses
I found a woman on reddit that sells me pics. I posted an "ad" on a bunch of reddits but it took months to find someone. I wanted a constant source of new stuff and pics no one else had. I also edited pics of myself into a whole new character and I am editing pics of my reddit girl into a whole new character. I tried googling it but most of the sites were dead ends. One site looked legit, I spent time looking through, picked my photo sets and went to pay and their payment processor wasn't allowing them to accept payment. "Try back in a few months" when we get it sorted. Why did all of the sites close and payments stop for others? I'm not on that page of this thread yet lol
I would consider doing html for others down the road but I have my own projects I need to finish. I can answer html questions for you, just ask in the thread so they can help other people. I had looked into hiring someone but the recommendations in the first 100 pages of this thread are broken links or dead ends. After I built my own, just today I saw the MOST beautiful profiles EVER made by someone here. It was on page 110? of this thread. (so you can see how far I have read lol)
http://myadultdesign.com/niteflirt-templates/
Mods, if its not ok to share that, please remove.
I also have blog questions. I have looked through DOZENS of blogs attached to NF profiles and many are just attaching to a NF store site that has many other flirts too. Or their blog hasn't been updated since 2009. The few that have blog posts are usually short and boring with a few sentences about their kink. I will say Amberly (findom) has a good blog if I remember correctly. Straight up stories about her blackmailing men and true or not, enthralling.
If your character is into anal would you write stories about anal sex? Or would Blonde college girl Tiffany blog about her favorite shoes and her sugar daddy taking her on vacation? Her favorite films? Her favorite lube? ALL of these things? And as Queen asked above, do you present the character as a PSO or is it a hot girl in college with a blog and Oh! you can call her too!
It keeps getting posted that wordpress is not sex friendly. I looked into it and the free version is NOT but if you host your site on a sex-friendly hosting platform and install worpress on your domain it is fine to have NSFW stuff. Is my research correct?
Spemily
07-14-2020, 06:03 PM
It keeps getting posted that wordpress is not sex friendly. I looked into it and the free version is NOT but if you host your site on a sex-friendly hosting platform and install worpress on your domain it is fine to have NSFW stuff. Is my research correct?
Yes, that's right.
sexysusie
07-14-2020, 06:52 PM
I found a woman on reddit that sells me pics. I posted an "ad" on a bunch of reddits but it took months to find someone. I wanted a constant source of new stuff and pics no one else had. I also edited pics of myself into a whole new character and I am editing pics of my reddit girl into a whole new character. I tried googling it but most of the sites were dead ends. One site looked legit, I spent time looking through, picked my photo sets and went to pay and their payment processor wasn't allowing them to accept payment. "Try back in a few months" when we get it sorted. Why did all of the sites close and payments stop for others? I'm not on that page of this thread yet lol
I would consider doing html for others down the road but I have my own projects I need to finish. I can answer html questions for you, just ask in the thread so they can help other people. I had looked into hiring someone but the recommendations in the first 100 pages of this thread are broken links or dead ends. After I built my own, just today I saw the MOST beautiful profiles EVER made by someone here. It was on page 110? of this thread. (so you can see how far I have read lol)
http://myadultdesign.com/niteflirt-templates/
Mods, if its not ok to share that, please remove.
I also have blog questions. I have looked through DOZENS of blogs attached to NF profiles and many are just attaching to a NF store site that has many other flirts too. Or their blog hasn't been updated since 2009. The few that have blog posts are usually short and boring with a few sentences about their kink. I will say Amberly (findom) has a good blog if I remember correctly. Straight up stories about her blackmailing men and true or not, enthralling.
If your character is into anal would you write stories about anal sex? Or would Blonde college girl Tiffany blog about her favorite shoes and her sugar daddy taking her on vacation? Her favorite films? Her favorite lube? ALL of these things? And as Queen asked above, do you present the character as a PSO or is it a hot girl in college with a blog and Oh! you can call her too!
It keeps getting posted that wordpress is not sex friendly. I looked into it and the free version is NOT but if you host your site on a sex-friendly hosting platform and install worpress on your domain it is fine to have NSFW stuff. Is my research correct?
Yep. Aside from being anti adult, wordpress.COM is useless as a platform, you have no control and may as well be using any other generic free host like wix. Wordpress.ORG is where serious users go.
VivienDeVexo
07-16-2020, 10:32 AM
When they send dick pics I say "wanna know what I think... I'll make you a 1 min MP3 with my thoughts for $20... but beware I am really, really honest" I have sold 4 recordings. I don't EVER yell at them. I act like I didn't even see it.
Listen sarahlove, you are my hero. I have learned so much from your hustle and I wanted to say thank you.
VivienDeVexo
07-16-2020, 11:16 AM
When we are discussing bidding and it is recommended to not be #1 or even first page because you get overclicked, what exactly does this mean? If my category is "Sex" in "Women Home Alone" under "Find Women" do I not want to be #1 in any of those?
Example: my bid to be on the 2nd page of "Sex" costs $1 but places me all the way back on page 10 of "Women Home Alone" and pushes my listing to page 15 of "Find Women." If I bid more to be #1 in my category and it gets me to page 3 or 4 of the larger category, is this recommended?
For a less competitive category, my max bid might be just 0.50 to be #1 but that bid will in no way get me close to the front pages of the larger category.
Not sure if I clarified my question correctly.
I tested on all 6 accounts and bid for 2nd page on several listings the other day bc it was SO slow and I had no calls. I could not gather enough research to make a conclusion, however one account did get 3 short calls (each 4 minutes, weirdly), a 5 star review and written feedback. I worry that on a busy day I would get clicked to death and it would be a costly experiment.
Rant. . . . Incoming. . . .
And honestly if I see one more new flirt post in here about spending money to make money Imma give you a paper cut. If you would actually read even .01% of this thread you would see that EVERY successful flirt bids, advertises off site with social media, already had a following from elsewhere, OR knows SEO and uses it on their profile. The "I never bid but I make money" flirts really only post once or twice and are never heard from again on here. Source: I have read through 5 years of comments on this thread. But YMMV with any of these tactics and I recommend all of them together. I kind of assume flirts who don't bid but make $$$ are drop dead knockouts or something.
Please STOP sending me direct messages here and elsewhere asking questions. I will not answer them unless they are asked in this thread as a way to help others as I have been helped. Everything I know I learned from this thread, the Niteflirt help section OR I paid actual money for training material, books, and resources. (google is your friend!) I still ask questions because there is so much to learn but hands-on is the ONLY way to learn. So go make some mistakes, live long and prosper.
/end rant
MaryElizabeth
07-16-2020, 02:21 PM
When we are discussing bidding...
Your bidding and your 'conversion rate' are intertwined and need to be considered together.
If you bid and guys click your listing it's nice but whats more important is the % of guys who see your listing and then call. A guy clicking your listing doesn't make you any money, CALLS make you money. If you bid to be up high in the ranks and your page sucks and doesn't inspire guys to call you will get clicked to death and your bid money drained for nothing.
https://imgur.com/a/woFriSO
My click rate is below average but when guys find it they fucking call and then call again. Bidding is somewhat important, having great pages that inspire guys is FAR MORE important. Also important is getting down with the pervs, addicts and the rest of the scum bags.
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?186291-The-Niteflirt-Thread&p=3103624&viewfull=1#post3103624
Stay safe out there,
m
VivienDeVexo
07-16-2020, 04:53 PM
Your bidding and your 'conversion rate' are intertwined and need to be considered together.
If you bid and guys click your listing it's nice but whats more important is the % of guys who see your listing and then call. A guy clicking your listing doesn't make you any money, CALLS make you money. If you bid to be up high in the ranks and your page sucks and doesn't inspire guys to call you will get clicked to death and your bid money drained for nothing.
https://imgur.com/a/woFriSO
My click rate is below average but when guys find it they fucking call and then call again. Bidding is somewhat important, having great pages that inspire guys is FAR MORE important. Also important is getting down with the pervs, addicts and the rest of the scum bags.
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?186291-The-Niteflirt-Thread&p=3103624&viewfull=1#post3103624
Stay safe out there,
m
The listing that got calls only had 10 clicks but conversion was high (82nd percentile). The rest of the listings had maybe 10 clicks total lol Insane. I have full, filled out pages with some clickable links on all of the listings. I know they need to reflect the different characters better. I realized there are too few keywords on any of them. Revamping the listings before I bid high again. I read through 100 pages of this thread today I will be putting all of that into action!
queenelayliah
07-20-2020, 12:27 PM
I found a woman on reddit that sells me pics. I posted an "ad" on a bunch of reddits but it took months to find someone. I wanted a constant source of new stuff and pics no one else had. I also edited pics of myself into a whole new character and I am editing pics of my reddit girl into a whole new character. I tried googling it but most of the sites were dead ends. One site looked legit, I spent time looking through, picked my photo sets and went to pay and their payment processor wasn't allowing them to accept payment. "Try back in a few months" when we get it sorted. Why did all of the sites close and payments stop for others? I'm not on that page of this thread yet lol
I would consider doing html for others down the road but I have my own projects I need to finish. I can answer html questions for you, just ask in the thread so they can help other people. I had looked into hiring someone but the recommendations in the first 100 pages of this thread are broken links or dead ends. After I built my own, just today I saw the MOST beautiful profiles EVER made by someone here. It was on page 110? of this thread. (so you can see how far I have read lol)
http://myadultdesign.com/niteflirt-templates/
Mods, if its not ok to share that, please remove.
I also have blog questions. I have looked through DOZENS of blogs attached to NF profiles and many are just attaching to a NF store site that has many other flirts too. Or their blog hasn't been updated since 2009. The few that have blog posts are usually short and boring with a few sentences about their kink. I will say Amberly (findom) has a good blog if I remember correctly. Straight up stories about her blackmailing men and true or not, enthralling.
If your character is into anal would you write stories about anal sex? Or would Blonde college girl Tiffany blog about her favorite shoes and her sugar daddy taking her on vacation? Her favorite films? Her favorite lube? ALL of these things? And as Queen asked above, do you present the character as a PSO or is it a hot girl in college with a blog and Oh! you can call her too!
It keeps getting posted that wordpress is not sex friendly. I looked into it and the free version is NOT but if you host your site on a sex-friendly hosting platform and install worpress on your domain it is fine to have NSFW stuff. Is my research correct?
^ Thanks for sharing that link and telling me about reddit. When it comes to reddit, how did you recruit her, so to say? Like did you say, hey i want to buy your nudes and put them on a phone sex site & make money with them? Any tips to buy nudeds & selling them? Also to be legal, wouldn't you need a model release & a copy of her id?
Now when it comes to blogs, I have the same questions about the blog issues. All of the blogs I have seen from the previous pages of the niteflirt thread, are old & not updated or inactive. I知 also curious about how to format the blog like you mentioned. Do I say I知 a pso or do I play it cool like the girl next door with a phone feature.
I think I will personally do both for my character & the real me. As you stated, Present my character as a PSO and my real me just a girl with a blog & you can call me also feature. When it comes to what I will blog personally I知 going to put more steamy sex stories on my pso blog because I want to start getting into erotica. So my goal is to start posting full stories on my blog and my stories is what drives people to my nf profile. If not i might put some sex related ads on my blog to bring in some money from my traffic reading my short stories.
I just need help getting it from my brain to the screen & built. Sigh.
innocentindian
07-21-2020, 06:17 PM
For those of you that have 2-3 characters tied to one single phone number, do you have to turn off listings or can you keep them all on at the same time?
For example I have 1 character that is vanilla / GFE (Listing A) and one that is femdom only (Listing B). They're 2 different NiteFlirt accounts tied to the same phone number. I'm terrible at keeping track of things so if I'm on NiteFlirt, I'll turn on both listings at the same time.
If I turn on Listing A and Listing B, and someone calls me on Listing A, will NiteFflirt turn Listing B to unavailable or can guys still call me through Listing B and get a busy signal if I'm already on a call?
Spemily
07-21-2020, 06:46 PM
For those of you that have 2-3 characters tied to one single phone number, do you have to turn off listings or can you keep them all on at the same time?
For example I have 1 character that is vanilla / GFE (Listing A) and one that is femdom only (Listing B). They're 2 different NiteFlirt accounts tied to the same phone number. I'm terrible at keeping track of things so if I'm on NiteFlirt, I'll turn on both listings at the same time.
If I turn on Listing A and Listing B, and someone calls me on Listing A, will NiteFflirt turn Listing B to unavailable or can guys still call me through Listing B and get a busy signal if I'm already on a call?
All listings associated with the same phone number go busy at the same time. Nobody will be able to call you while you are on a call.
Wonder_Bra
07-23-2020, 02:02 PM
So..does anyone else see the "white superiority" trump loving girl on NF? I am all for freedom of speech/expression and shit but I really cant stand to see this racist garbage on there. Even if its to cater to a fetish or whatever it just doesnt sit well with me :/ Please tell me i'm not the only one lol
Spemily
07-23-2020, 03:18 PM
So..does anyone else see the "white superiority" trump loving girl on NF? I am all for freedom of speech/expression and shit but I really cant stand to see this racist garbage on there. Even if its to cater to a fetish or whatever it just doesnt sit well with me :/ Please tell me i'm not the only one lol
Kind of makes me uncomfortable. I couldn't even pretend to support Trump to try to make a buck, but some people have a stronger gag reflex than I do. Her listing is well designed and she did a good job photoshopping the Trump slogans onto her pics. Good for her, I guess. My guess is that the ploy won't pan out in the long run.
I do enjoy the one star feedback she got: "Very disappointed with the call. Waste of time and my American Spirit." If that guy's "American Spirit" is white supremacy and stroking it to Donald Trump, then I'm glad it was wasted.
raakashock
07-25-2020, 10:49 AM
Has it been noticeably slower for anyone? I’m trying to figure out if my new price per min is too high or if it’s just slow. I’m taking into consideration it’s the end of the month
MaryElizabeth
07-25-2020, 10:55 PM
Has it been noticeably slower for anyone? I’m trying to figure out if my new price per min is too high or if it’s just slow. I’m taking into consideration it’s the end of the month
End of the month, people paying taxes, baseball is back, August is traditional vacation time, lots (and lots) of economic uncertainty. Yea, all that will change your earnings. Though today its been constantly busy since I got on early this morning, a ka-ching day where I just stayed on all day.
Part of me thinks we are all fighting over the same group of rich guys that can afford a couple bucks a minute for entertainment.
Kind of makes me uncomfortable. I couldn't even pretend to support Trump to try to make a buck, but some people have a stronger gag reflex than I do.
I'm pretty liberal and Trump makes me ill. To be honest though, I don't turn down BBC calls, some of them get pretty crazy and racist. Sorry all.
raakashock
07-26-2020, 05:54 PM
I found this thread before but I can’t seem to find it again....if someone has the the time, what happened with niteflirt and the California independent contractor law?
laurielegs
07-26-2020, 06:56 PM
I found this thread before but I can稚 seem to find it again....if someone has the the time, what happened with niteflirt and the California independent contractor law?
From what I understand Niteflirt considers itself only a billing platform and it does not apply.