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drnena
09-27-2020, 04:07 PM
There's not other way. Copy and paste is unfortunately the only way to go.
Awww man :( Thanks for answering! You wouldn't happen to know if there's a button for chat? I know there's a call button that leads them to mail if you're not available. But is there one that brings them to chat instead? I hate getting emails lol
Spemily
09-27-2020, 05:20 PM
Awww man :( Thanks for answering! You wouldn't happen to know if there's a button for chat? I know there's a call button that leads them to mail if you're not available. But is there one that brings them to chat instead? I hate getting emails lol
Yes. Go to your profile and you can see the link to your listings, your chat and your goodies.
freakyspirit
09-27-2020, 06:52 PM
Sorry in advance if I'm asking too many questions to early - I am doing my very best to search out answers.
My question is pretty specific to some of the more experienced PSO's. I have a regular (7 days in - but talking daily) and I'm not sure what to do about him...
We started in chat. Prior to speaking with me live, he asked me to google the 'GFE'. He is OBSESSED with telling me he loves me (will literally repeat it over and over almost in a chant), and wants to take care of me, and crosses the line with what he says with regard to money (wants to take care of me, buy me things, etc.). He has tributed me a large amount of money (largest tribute was $500) and in the seven days of speaking with him I've made 1300 bucks in talk/chat/tributes, plus he's started buying me small items from my Amazon wish list, and he talks about sending me incredibly expensive items.
He keeps trying to get me to go 'offline' and uses the most manipulative ways of doing so. Obviously that won't happen, and he keeps coming back but the pressure from him to go offline is mounting. I won't, and I can 'deal' with saying no over and over. But I'm just wondering if I should cut ties?
He has a mean streak, and I can't figure out if he has some mental health issues, or if it's part of his 'character'. I also can't quite determine if he's just a master at playing a role, or if he is taking any of this seriously? He obviously has cash, and I've emailed customer service about his tributes and they cleared me to continue talking with him.
Basically, he's a cash cow, but a major psycho. I don't know what to do and I don't want to cut him loose quite yet. I'm just wondering if anyone has had similar experiences and can offer any advice. I am handling him carefully and not doing anything against TOS, but I am also concerned about possible negative consequences I may have not considered.
laurielegs
09-27-2020, 08:11 PM
Sorry in advance if I'm asking too many questions to early - I am doing my very best to search out answers.
My question is pretty specific to some of the more experienced PSO's. I have a regular (7 days in - but talking daily) and I'm not sure what to do about him...
We started in chat. Prior to speaking with me live, he asked me to google the 'GFE'. He is OBSESSED with telling me he loves me (will literally repeat it over and over almost in a chant), and wants to take care of me, and crosses the line with what he says with regard to money (wants to take care of me, buy me things, etc.). He has tributed me a large amount of money (largest tribute was $500) and in the seven days of speaking with him I've made 1300 bucks in talk/chat/tributes, plus he's started buying me small items from my Amazon wish list, and he talks about sending me incredibly expensive items.
He keeps trying to get me to go 'offline' and uses the most manipulative ways of doing so. Obviously that won't happen, and he keeps coming back but the pressure from him to go offline is mounting. I won't, and I can 'deal' with saying no over and over. But I'm just wondering if I should cut ties?
He has a mean streak, and I can't figure out if he has some mental health issues, or if it's part of his 'character'. I also can't quite determine if he's just a master at playing a role, or if he is taking any of this seriously? He obviously has cash, and I've emailed customer service about his tributes and they cleared me to continue talking with him.
Basically, he's a cash cow, but a major psycho. I don't know what to do and I don't want to cut him loose quite yet. I'm just wondering if anyone has had similar experiences and can offer any advice. I am handling him carefully and not doing anything against TOS, but I am also concerned about possible negative consequences I may have not considered.
Squeeze all the cash out of him you can as fast as you can. In my experience these types end up either leaving in a furious huff when you won't agree to their demands or you end up having to block them because it just gets too unpleasant.
Also, remember they preload cash on Niteflirt so he is planning ahead what to spend. If he doesn't spend on you it will be someone else.
freakyspirit
09-27-2020, 10:30 PM
Squeeze all the cash out of him you can as fast as you can. In my experience these types end up either leaving in a furious huff when you won't agree to their demands or you end up having to block them because it just gets too unpleasant.
Also, remember they preload cash on Niteflirt so he is planning ahead what to spend. If he doesn't spend on you it will be someone else.
Thanks. It is getting to that exact point. Severe agitation on his part, and I'm considering blocking. Thanks for the input. I hadn't considered that they preload specific amounts!
MaryElizabeth
09-28-2020, 01:10 AM
I had this guy a couple years ago, best grands I ever made. Get everything you can, play the dumb bimbo, tell him you think you might be having feelings for him. Take his abuse, indulge him. One day you will never hear from him again - ever.
Thanks. It is getting to that exact point. Severe agitation on his part, and I'm considering blocking. Thanks for the input. I hadn't considered that they preload specific amounts!
freakyspirit
09-28-2020, 08:31 AM
I had this guy a couple years ago, best grands I ever made. Get everything you can, play the dumb bimbo, tell him you think you might be having feelings for him. Take his abuse, indulge him. One day you will never hear from him again - ever.
Excellent. Thanks for the advice. I'm gonna try and stick it out a little longer. He seems to calm down rather quickly, and he keeps saying he wants to buy me a computer.... so I added an expensive one to my wishlist and gonna try and ride this out for as long as I possibly can. Ugh. Thank you ladies. :)
MsMeta
09-28-2020, 03:10 PM
Excellent. Thanks for the advice. I'm gonna try and stick it out a little longer. He seems to calm down rather quickly, and he keeps saying he wants to buy me a computer.... so I added an expensive one to my wishlist and gonna try and ride this out for as long as I possibly can. Ugh. Thank you ladies. :)
I had a guy who is EXACTLY like this except he wants to buy me a phone lol. After 2 conversations he wanted to send me a plane ticket to fly to Miami to meet up with him just to see where it goes. Said I'd be totally safe cause he'd get me my own hotel room and everything. I told him that maybe in the future but I'm not comfortable with that right now and he got really mad and said I mustn't be serious about improving my life....it was so weird. I ended up blocking him.
freakyspirit
09-28-2020, 04:49 PM
I had a guy who is EXACTLY like this except he wants to buy me a phone lol. After 2 conversations he wanted to send me a plane ticket to fly to Miami to meet up with him just to see where it goes. Said I'd be totally safe cause he'd get me my own hotel room and everything. I told him that maybe in the future but I'm not comfortable with that right now and he got really mad and said I mustn't be serious about improving my life....it was so weird. I ended up blocking him.
Maybe it's the same creeper. He said the exact same thing - he wants me to 'improve my life'. Asked me to investigate college classes and said he'd pay for my education (BWAHAHAH). Has the audacity to give me 'homework' (investigate college courses). Talks about his education and his PhD, constantly. Wants to buy me stuff specifically to 'help my life and my college education'. Talks about his millionaire status. He bought one of my higher priced goodies and then told me it wasn't worth the price. Yet keeps asking for freebies. F*cker. Will be relieved when this finally fizzles out, any second now. Watch out ladies. You know what to do when he hits you up. :)
melanielive
09-28-2020, 05:54 PM
I just got ( a general message) from a regular of mine but what he says on the message sounds like total NONSENSE..... lol I wonder if any of you here got that message as well...
The title was " ATTENTION ATTENTION ATTENTION"
Talks about stuff like he tapped NF recording devices, like if the government had been listening to NF calls, etc...
Then he says " he s God" on one part of the message...lol
It makes no sense to me at all, he called me a few mins before that with one min left, I said hi, I could hear noise but he didn' t talk and he didn't call again...
He has called several times and he was always super nice but a couple times he made calls where he was sounding super bossy and weird...
Do u guys have customers like that at all?
So weird...
minniesoporno
10-03-2020, 11:32 AM
IS the only way to do phone with cam on here is with skype ??
Spemily
10-03-2020, 04:24 PM
IS the only way to do phone with cam on here is with skype ??
Skype is what they officially say to use. They also used to officially endorse Yahoo Messenger (which no longer exists). Skype is problematic for many reasons, so some Flirts use other solutions, like Discord. If you're asking if there's a cam platform built into the site or interfaced with it somehow, the answer is no. The only way to do cam shows on NF is by taking a call over the phone and using another device to connect on a different service at the same time.
Victoria_Gray
10-04-2020, 09:16 PM
Listening to Amberly talk about sales funnels made me all inspired.
So I went to create a PTV funnel where a custie would go to PTV one audio then in that message there were links to other audios.
The problem though was the file manager says embed links for MP3 files are not supported.
Has anyone else done this? Did you change the file type or one which was supported? Is there another way around this? Thanks ladies!
laurielegs
10-04-2020, 10:23 PM
Listening to Amberly talk about sales funnels made me all inspired.
So I went to create a PTV funnel where a custie would go to PTV one audio then in that message there were links to other audios.
The problem though was the file manager says embed links for MP3 files are not supported.
Has anyone else done this? Did you change the file type or one which was supported? Is there another way around this? Thanks ladies!
Yeah, niteflirt doesn't let you embed mp3 files from the file manager, only photos or gif files.
You would first create a ptv for each mp3. Then copy and paste the button inside the html of the ptv for the next audio. (To get to the HTML editor inside a niteflirt email click that little source code symbol <> )
Victoria_Gray
10-05-2020, 02:13 AM
Yeah, niteflirt doesn't let you embed mp3 files from the file manager, only photos or gif files.
You would first create a ptv for each mp3. Then copy and paste the button inside the html of the ptv for the next audio. (To get to the HTML editor inside a niteflirt email click that little source code symbol <> )
Okay. But I should host them somewhere else you think, as niteflirt doesn't let you host them there to put them in the PTV?
izshadow
10-05-2020, 01:02 PM
I hate Skype. I miss eyeball. Whatever happened to them? Just a random thought I had haha but I remember using eyeball back in the day when camming on NF.
Spemily
10-05-2020, 03:46 PM
Okay. But I should host them somewhere else you think, as niteflirt doesn't let you host them there to put them in the PTV?
NF does allow you to host mp3 files. In fact, mp3s are a very popular format for PTV attachments and goody bags. It's only that they don't support the HTML code needed to embed them in a page. You can still transmit them over the mail system or put them in goody bags, no problem.
Victoria_Gray
10-05-2020, 07:48 PM
UGH, I just figured it out finally. Thanks ladies!
Victoria_Gray
10-07-2020, 02:10 AM
How much do other people charge for PTV games? I charged $3 per message for some pics and they didn't have the uptake I thought they would. Am I charging too much or are people not as into PTV as I imagined they would be?
Spemily
10-07-2020, 08:43 AM
How much do other people charge for PTV games? I charged $3 per message for some pics and they didn't have the uptake I thought they would. Am I charging too much or are people not as into PTV as I imagined they would be?
People charge all sorts of prices. Some are low, in the $1-$2 range, others are $20 or more. Some people use a system where they start the game with a cheap PTV and then gradually increase the price, some will have the prices going up and down over the course of the game.
In all likelihood, price isn't the issue with your offering. Try a different title, description or graphic.
Victoria_Gray
10-07-2020, 08:41 PM
In all likelihood, price isn't the issue with your offering. Try a different title, description or graphic.
Good advice. I'll give it a try!
Teddy_Bear
10-08-2020, 12:28 AM
Absolutely loving Niteflirt at the moment now I've picked up some whales I'm milking them dry as fast as I can before they swim on. My goodies and PPV's are so popular i don't have to bid a dime and I'm still in the 10-20's of my category, I've never bidded and now I never will.
LaurenAus
10-08-2020, 05:03 PM
Absolutely loving Niteflirt at the moment now I've picked up some whales I'm milking them dry as fast as I can before they swim on. My goodies and PPV's are so popular i don't have to bid a dime and I'm still in the 10-20's of my category, I've never bidded and now I never will.
are you able to pull this off using a character or do you use your real self?
Teddy_Bear
10-08-2020, 05:45 PM
are you able to pull this off using a character or do you use your real self?
I use my real pics and persona for phone sex but I don't show my face unless they see me on Skype. I've never had to use characters or bought content.
To be honest 1 guy did a 2hr call in November last year, which catapulted me to number 1 in my category for months after and featured my listing somehow. Now I'm in the 10-20s all the time.
izshadow
10-10-2020, 12:38 PM
I need to just vent out how I'm over these guys messaging on Skype without being connected on NF first and how I wish it was easier to separate if they are from CMD or NF so I can only answer the CMD guys. I'm also real tempted to remove my buy my Skype ID on NF so they are forced to call me first.
I'm also irritated some dude blew me up cause I wouldnt take tribute for a show cause he was on his cell phone and not in front of a computer. Sorry, not my problem. You want a show, you can call me first on NF.
MonieBunny
10-10-2020, 11:54 PM
Hi gang! I hope this hasn't been asked before, I scrolled back pretty far but didn't see anything. Does anyone know if teratophilia/monster fucking falls under the prohibited content of the play fair basics? It's a very popular fetish for me outside of NF. I checked the FAQ for anything relating to my specific fetish, but couldn't quite find a sufficient answer. Idk if it'll fly as while it is fantasy play, it is also technically b***iality as the listing would be for calls about sex between human and non-human animals(monsters). For example, a few of the characters I portray are a succubus, a Xenomorph (the alien from the Alien franchise) and a tentacle monster. None of the portrayals in anyway resemble the non-human animals of this realm because...eww, but as I'm new to NF I wanna be doubly sure I don't get booted.
Anyone know? Am I overthinking it? :-\
grneyesnfl
10-11-2020, 03:01 AM
Idk if it'll fly as while it is fantasy play, it is also technically b***iality as the listing would be for calls about sex between human and non-human animals(monsters).
I think you just answered your own question. Bestiality is a HUGE no-no on NF and what you're describing seems like it would fall under that category. But, to be certain, just shoot NF an email at
[email protected] and they'll let you know.
Spemily
10-11-2020, 02:48 PM
Hi gang! I hope this hasn't been asked before, I scrolled back pretty far but didn't see anything. Does anyone know if teratophilia/monster fucking falls under the prohibited content of the play fair basics? It's a very popular fetish for me outside of NF. I checked the FAQ for anything relating to my specific fetish, but couldn't quite find a sufficient answer. Idk if it'll fly as while it is fantasy play, it is also technically b***iality as the listing would be for calls about sex between human and non-human animals(monsters). For example, a few of the characters I portray are a succubus, a Xenomorph (the alien from the Alien franchise) and a tentacle monster. None of the portrayals in anyway resemble the non-human animals of this realm because...eww, but as I'm new to NF I wanna be doubly sure I don't get booted.
Anyone know? Am I overthinking it? :-\
You can always make a ticket and ask them, but my guess is that it would be disallowed. Anything animal-like is definitely out, so I'd say the Xenomorph and anything with tentacles is a no-go. All forms of vampirism are disallowed, so depending on how your succubus operates, they might see it as a violation of that rule. Also, anything non-consensual or all types of abduction are against the rules. A lot of monster erotica I've seen plays on those themes as well.
The content rules were changed in 2017 and there's a huge thread on the NF message boards discussing it. It gives you an idea of where they are coming from with the rules.
https://forum.niteflirt.com/t/policy-changes-please-read/49165
drnena
10-11-2020, 07:33 PM
I'm toying with the idea of creating a second profile with my own likeness that way I don't have to buy content and can do phone with cam. Also, it would be easier to market on social media since I can create videos and pics whenever I want. I already have a sex work twitter and ig with a small following (around 1k). I'm not very active on either anymore but that can def change. I was thinking of rebranding my online persona and using niteflirt, twitter and iwantclips to sell content. I like NF a lot because it's pretty lucrative. Twitter is great for traffic and I figure it couldn't hurt to upload my mp3s for NF onto iwantclips as well.
My only issue is that I am no longer a skinny girl that I was years ago when I did camming lol so I have to learn how to market and gain a following for an ebony/mixed BBW. I know there are some successful ladies out there but they aren't very forthcoming with info. For instance I follow an escort who is a bbw in the chicago area. We've spoken before about other stuff. I reached out to her on advice on marketing herself and offered to pay for her time because I know how annoying it is when people fish for info and waste your time and don't even say thank you. She said there's not difference at all yet a few days later was on IG live complaining that she hasn't seen anyone new in over a month and that many inquries are trolls calling her fat and saying she looks like precious, etc. She showed screenshots of inquiries from men expecting her prices to not be the same as the smaller girls and girls of other races which I think is bull and just a way some guys try to use a woman's perceived insecurities to lower their rates and get a good deal lol smh I know as an escort things are different for her vs someone who is online....I am assuming
Are there any BBW girls on this thread who know of places to market?I found a few subreddits but they always want you to basically send free content as a way to "verify" and that doesn't sit right with me
Do you specifically have a listing in BBW? Is there a community of men on NF who have a big girl fetish? I googled it and there's a site called curvage I wanna try. Maybe cross post some of my content on there too. Any advice is appreciated <3
arielbriel
10-11-2020, 11:37 PM
I'm toying with the idea of creating a second profile with my own likeness that way I don't have to buy content and can do phone with cam. Also, it would be easier to market on social media since I can create videos and pics whenever I want. I already have a sex work twitter and ig with a small following (around 1k). I'm not very active on either anymore but that can def change. I was thinking of rebranding my online persona and using niteflirt, twitter and iwantclips to sell content. I like NF a lot because it's pretty lucrative. Twitter is great for traffic and I figure it couldn't hurt to upload my mp3s for NF onto iwantclips as well.
My only issue is that I am no longer a skinny girl that I was years ago when I did camming lol so I have to learn how to market and gain a following for an ebony/mixed BBW. I know there are some successful ladies out there but they aren't very forthcoming with info. For instance I follow an escort who is a bbw in the chicago area. We've spoken before about other stuff. I reached out to her on advice on marketing herself and offered to pay for her time because I know how annoying it is when people fish for info and waste your time and don't even say thank you. She said there's not difference at all yet a few days later was on IG live complaining that she hasn't seen anyone new in over a month and that many inquries are trolls calling her fat and saying she looks like precious, etc. She showed screenshots of inquiries from men expecting her prices to not be the same as the smaller girls and girls of other races which I think is bull and just a way some guys try to use a woman's perceived insecurities to lower their rates and get a good deal lol smh I know as an escort things are different for her vs someone who is online....I am assuming
Are there any BBW girls on this thread who know of places to market?I found a few subreddits but they always want you to basically send free content as a way to "verify" and that doesn't sit right with me
Do you specifically have a listing in BBW? Is there a community of men on NF who have a big girl fetish? I googled it and there's a site called curvage I wanna try. Maybe cross post some of my content on there too. Any advice is appreciated <3
Hey, you NEED to make the phone with Cam line. Who cares if you're BBW? Guys like that! You will make even MORE money. As long as you bid at first and get reviews, I find NF is fine without doing too much advertising. I do advertise on reddit but for independent cam shows, not necessarily for NF. You can link NF to your twitter and it will tweet for you when you're online , get a tip, etc. You don't have to verify for every subreddit, in fact, I don't even bother with those. They're mad annoying. If a guy asks me to verify that I am real, I point them in the direction of my MANY 5star reviews which will either A)satisfy them B) they just want free pics or a cam check in that case, BLOCK. R/chubby I heard is good for BBWs. IDK much about clips because it's not my thing, I am more into phone sex and video calls, easier for me to just dance around on the cam for a set amount of time than to record, edit, upload clips (im lazy tbh) so I can't help there but I would definitely upload to the difference clipsites as I hear it's good residual income.
MsMeta
10-12-2020, 12:48 PM
I have a barely legal/sorority girl profile so of course I get a lot of guys wanting pedo stuff and I always say no and it's against TOS, etc. Most of the time they hang up cause that's what they want and I won't do it but today I had a guy who said "oh okay, well let's just talk in code." I repeated that I can't do underage calls and he said, "that's okay, I won't say the age, I want you to be my stepdaughter and you're sitting on my lap." I said I can't do that, against the rules, etc. He kinda moaned her name and said her age (I won't now because it's so gross) and I just hung up.
Obvs I blocked him, but not before he emailed me saying "It's just roleplay and you advertise roleplay and you sound so young." I DO NOT advertise ageplay or any kind of family stuff, obviously. Now I'm worried that he'll leave me negative feedback because a couple guys in the past have left me negatives because I wouldn't do underage (without saying it of course so I couldn't get it removed). I wish we could report guys like this.
MonieBunny
10-12-2020, 06:32 PM
You can always make a ticket and ask them, but my guess is that it would be disallowed. Anything animal-like is definitely out, so I'd say the Xenomorph and anything with tentacles is a no-go. All forms of vampirism are disallowed, so depending on how your succubus operates, they might see it as a violation of that rule. Also, anything non-consensual or all types of abduction are against the rules. A lot of monster erotica I've seen plays on those themes as well.
The content rules were changed in 2017 and there's a huge thread on the NF message boards discussing it. It gives you an idea of where they are coming from with the rules.
I’m still learning to navigate the site so I didn’t even think to check NF’s forum! That’s definitely where my answer was located, but I'd also sent in a ticket too. Both confirmed my succubus is permitted and tentacle monster is definitely out and PF replied as long as my modified Xenomorph (no bladed tail) listing is free from abduction/consensual, which is how I play anyhow, and not animal-like, which it's not, the listing should be okay. Thanks a million!
MaryElizabeth
10-12-2020, 08:10 PM
A) I know this is a personal view but I'm don't think non-real / imaginary creatures is technically bestiality. I put dragons or Sasquatch in the same realm as, say, an elf. For me bestiary is animals that actually exist (dogs or horses) and aliens or fantasy creatures are another category. Having sex with a doorknob has more reality than sex with a leprechaun. Not sure what NF thinks though.
B) And, jesus, I wish they let mom shit through, I clean up on that big time, and to be honest the way guys just fucking turn to butter when things go there is sweet. I very much mind the TOS in goodies, chat, mail and anything written but in calls I'm notably more free. I've been mostly ignoring the terms in calls non-stop for a couple years and never had an issue.
nerdy --> NF calls come from California which is a state that requires explicit all party consent to record calls, and recording calls without that permission is a crime. I don't see a guy putting himself in that sort of situation to bust a PSO. Generally guys are so happy to find someone that will indulge their hidden fantasies they are good for a fat slew of calls.
Hi gang! I hope this hasn't been asked before, I scrolled back pretty far but didn't see anything. Does anyone know if teratophilia/monster fucking falls under the prohibited content of the play fair basics? It's a very popular fetish for me outside of NF. I checked the FAQ for anything relating to my specific fetish, but couldn't quite find a sufficient answer. Idk if it'll fly as while it is fantasy play, it is also technically b***iality as the listing would be for calls about sex between human and non-human animals(monsters). For example, a few of the characters I portray are a succubus, a Xenomorph (the alien from the Alien franchise) and a tentacle monster. None of the portrayals in anyway resemble the non-human animals of this realm because...eww, but as I'm new to NF I wanna be doubly sure I don't get booted.
Anyone know? Am I overthinking it? :-\
Victoria_Gray
10-12-2020, 11:13 PM
Absolutely loving Niteflirt at the moment now I've picked up some whales I'm milking them dry as fast as I can before they swim on. My goodies and PPV's are so popular i don't have to bid a dime and I'm still in the 10-20's of my category, I've never bidded and now I never will.
That's really awesome!
I was having some luck with PPV messages (guys who didn't want to call but wanted to play through DMs bc of lack of privacy at home). I have not had much luck with PPV pics though. What sort of PPV's are you doing? Pics, games, audio recordings?
I have been on NF for a while, feel like I am brand new to it though still working out how to do anything beyond taking a phone call XD
CatBBW
10-13-2020, 01:50 AM
To create a new character using same card & phone number - is it just as simple as signing up for a new profile with a different email address? Do they require docs etc even if you're already verified on the first account?
Thanks!
Spemily
10-13-2020, 10:31 AM
To create a new character using same card & phone number - is it just as simple as signing up for a new profile with a different email address? Do they require docs etc even if you're already verified on the first account?
Thanks!
Yes, you can reuse the same card and telephone number on up to two extra accounts (for a total of three). You do need a different email address. You will need to reupload your documents and fill out the same forms again.
drnena
10-13-2020, 11:26 AM
It's my bday today and I'm at my 9-5 trying yelled at by customers because our ATMs aren't working. Man, how I wish I was at the point where NF and TTM were my main source of income! lol
i put my amazon wishlist in my listing a week ago and have gotten two things. I have my PO Box as the wishlist address and the "name" is just my initials. Unfortunately certain items can't be delivered to a PO Box so I put the amazon, Sephora and Best Buy gift cards as highest priority so they show up at the top. I hope I get more ;)
LaurenAus
10-13-2020, 02:53 PM
It's my bday today and I'm at my 9-5 trying yelled at by customers because our ATMs aren't working. Man, how I wish I was at the point where NF and TTM were my main source of income! lol
i put my amazon wishlist in my listing a week ago and have gotten two things. I have my PO Box as the wishlist address and the "name" is just my initials. Unfortunately certain items can't be delivered to a PO Box so I put the amazon, Sephora and Best Buy gift cards as highest priority so they show up at the top. I hope I get more ;)
Do it!! Make them your main income!! That's what I so want to do too. I'm completely miserable in my vanilla career and wanna get out
Btw happy birthday!! Libras are some of my fave
arielbriel
10-13-2020, 02:59 PM
It's my bday today and I'm at my 9-5 trying yelled at by customers because our ATMs aren't working. Man, how I wish I was at the point where NF and TTM were my main source of income! lol
i put my amazon wishlist in my listing a week ago and have gotten two things. I have my PO Box as the wishlist address and the "name" is just my initials. Unfortunately certain items can't be delivered to a PO Box so I put the amazon, Sephora and Best Buy gift cards as highest priority so they show up at the top. I hope I get more ;)
You CAN do it!! How much would you need per month to make it your main income?
LaurenAus
10-13-2020, 03:03 PM
You CAN do it!! How much would you need per month to make it your main income?
not to interrupt you two but where I live I would need at least 3,000 my cut and after taxes are taken out to survive. Is this doable???
queenelayliah
10-13-2020, 05:32 PM
Hey everyone.
I was just wondering how your day is and how is the month of October treating everyone. I have basically no traffic and it has been like this since the start of the month.
I’m noticing a drop in activity across the board. I’m on four different sites and I’m not getting that much activity anymore barely 1 or 2 calls per day. I’m barely making my minimum $29 per day, some days I fail. Sigh.
Anyone else or is it just me?
Thanks
Teddy_Bear
10-13-2020, 06:20 PM
That's really awesome!
I was having some luck with PPV messages (guys who didn't want to call but wanted to play through DMs bc of lack of privacy at home). I have not had much luck with PPV pics though. What sort of PPV's are you doing? Pics, games, audio recordings?
I have been on NF for a while, feel like I am brand new to it though still working out how to do anything beyond taking a phone call XD
I didn't even know about PPV'S until this year lol.
I start with a pic or short audio recording and work up to longer vids audios etc, my PPV games never end or take a while to complete so they keep paying to reach the end ;)
I just reward them with a little 'enticer' every $50 and that encourages them to continue...
drnena
10-13-2020, 07:20 PM
Do it!! Make them your main income!! That's what I so want to do too. I'm completely miserable in my vanilla career and wanna get out
Btw happy birthday!! Libras are some of my fave
Thank you Lauren! And yes I'm going back and re-reading and taking notes on this thread from the beginning. I'm going to concentrate on PTV games and goodie bags. That way I can earn while I'm not on the phone
drnena
10-13-2020, 07:28 PM
You CAN do it!! How much would you need per month to make it your main income?
Good question. I live in Las Vegas so my rent and bills are low compared to when I was living in CA (home state). I don't have any expensive habits either. Obviously I want as much $$$ as possible but it takes less than 1000 for the bare necessities, the extra is for fun stuff.
My ideal income is like 4k a month though. I just made a second profile so that's 2k/month from each if cut in half. 500 a week on each. I think that's doable but hard since I work a 9-5. My plan is try to make the majority of that through PTV, goodie bags and chat.
MaryElizabeth
10-14-2020, 10:55 AM
I started PSO-ing 4+ years ago and its been paying my bills ever since. When I started I was broke and broken, just out of a bad relationship and just on the edge of ruin, I had a job that was a nightmare and I had to quit. I remember thinking "if this phone sex thing doesn't work I don't know what I am going to do". I was probably having or on the edge of a breakdown.
UsLove (a very great place to start that I will always appreciate but, well .33 cents a minute) and now TTM and NF, I messed up getting into SinCats but will try again in a few months. There were a couple zigs and zags in there with crap companies but things have been solid for a while and I have made more every single year, this year looks like I'll end in the mid or higher 50k's. I know there are gals out there making crazy bank but I am more than happy with how things are going. I've never gotten a 'Top Performer Gold' award even once but have gotten silver or bronze over 100 times (mostly bronze).
I punched clocks for years and it just does not work for me, I can't do it. I get a nice long bike ride every afternoon and hang out at my local art center often and I love it. I work PSO most every single day, I take every fucked up caller there is, short calls, long calls, I almost never block guys, my listings are great and usually pull in the sorts of guys I want to talk with, but I will take the abuse and the darkness that comes from it. I'll push long, long hours if the money is there. The HTML sucks but its life, I dig deep into the conversion rates and bid/click results and tweak accordingly. I focus exclusively on what makes the money roll in.
I see people commenting how they won't chat with a guy until they say hello or introduce themselves, or block assholes or short callers. You can either worry about your dignity or the money, pick one - I go for the $, every time. I fucking hate silent calls but I take them.
I am at a couple phone lines and a plane load full of characters, the juggling is the hard part for me right now and I need to figure out a solution. And I live really, really small and plow money into the bank/robinhood. I honestly wish I had started PSO-ing when NF got started but I didn't even know it existed back then.
Anyway, if you make bad listings and sit back and expect to make any money I can't see how it will happen. There are many thousands of listings and your shitty no-picture no-graphics no-imagination "i'll talk about anything", no-html listing, combined with you fighting guys off, is never going to make you any money - hang it up and go to a temp agency and get a 9-5. If you haven't been making bank this year you don't have what it takes to do this job, its just a fact. Not every gig is for every person. Everyone goes through phases of getting crushed by calls and then phases of getting totally ignored, but if you are usually struggling why do you think things on NF will get better for you?
I am constantly trying new things, changing listings, putting up new ones, killing old ones - or at least putting them on ice for a while, I would say its the thing I do the most. When I heard that most people look at the site via their phones I went through every listing and made it phone friendly. And it's also because I can fucking talk, I can run my mouth for the longest and keep a conversation going and going and going, I'm an entertaining gal...and dig into guys heads like scooping ice cream. I can feel that moment when I need to back off a bit and let him settle in because he might hang up and know when I should press and push.
What works for me probably won't work for you. I make crazy bank on chat, I can write, I have never made a single dollar selling pictures. I get my second looks out there but I am not cam material, and besides if you want to see my pussy you can take a nice long look before you go down on me, a couple bucks isn't going to get you there.
Maybe PSO-ing saved my life, maybe it didn't. I wish I had started in 2004 or 2007 or whenever NF got going. I don't see any magic money rolling in, occasionally you pick up a knuckhead that will toss around piles of money but usually it's time and effort to dig it the fuck out. I aim for my daily 160 and usually get it.
It's hard to find good numbers but I think that most all flirts are making chicken scratch, so little that I would go back to punching a clock. I think the median earnings for most listings is about fifty bucks a week, which is pretty much a waste of time. If you want to get towards a grand a week consistently you are pushing into rare-air where I think, 95% of all flirts don't get to.
There are indeed buckets of money out there, no doubt, getting it into your bank account is the challenge. You are a low rung sex worker helping guys jerk off, not some upscale Pretty Woman. Deal with the grime and the shit and wallow in it, if you were better than this job you wouldn't be doing it. So keep at it, give good phone, focus on making money not your 'feels.
Best of luck, I say it often, go back to the beginning of this thread and read EVERYTHING, there is gold in there.
Growlerpussy
10-14-2020, 12:35 PM
i started pso-ing 4+ years ago and its been paying my bills ever since. When i started i was broke and broken, just out of a bad relationship and just on the edge of ruin, i had a job that was a nightmare and i had to quit. I remember thinking "if this phone sex thing doesn't work i don't know what i am going to do". I was probably having or on the edge of a breakdown.
Uslove (a very great place to start that i will always appreciate but, well .33 cents a minute) and now ttm and nf, i messed up getting into sincats but will try again in a few months. There were a couple zigs and zags in there with crap companies but things have been solid for a while and i have made more every single year, this year looks like i'll end in the mid or higher 50k's. I know there are gals out there making crazy bank but i am more than happy with how things are going. I've never gotten a 'top performer gold' award even once but have gotten silver or bronze over 100 times (mostly bronze).
I punched clocks for years and it just does not work for me, i can't do it. I get a nice long bike ride every afternoon and hang out at my local art center often and i love it. I work pso most every single day, i take every fucked up caller there is, short calls, long calls, i almost never block guys, my listings are great and usually pull in the sorts of guys i want to talk with, but i will take the abuse and the darkness that comes from it. I'll push long, long hours if the money is there. The html sucks but its life, i dig deep into the conversion rates and bid/click results and tweak accordingly. I focus exclusively on what makes the money roll in.
I see people commenting how they won't chat with a guy until they say hello or introduce themselves, or block assholes or short callers. You can either worry about your dignity or the money, pick one - i go for the $, every time. I fucking hate silent calls but i take them.
I am at a couple phone lines and a plane load full of characters, the juggling is the hard part for me right now and i need to figure out a solution. And i live really, really small and plow money into the bank/robinhood. I honestly wish i had started pso-ing when nf got started but i didn't even know it existed back then.
Anyway, if you make bad listings and sit back and expect to make any money i can't see how it will happen. There are many thousands of listings and your shitty no-picture no-graphics no-imagination no-html listing, combined with you fighting guys off, is never going to make you any money - hang it up and go to a temp agency and get a 9-5. If you haven't been making bank this year you don't have what it takes to do this job, its just a fact. Not every gig is for every person. Everyone goes through phases of getting crushed by calls and then phases of getting totally ignored, but if you are usually struggling why do you think things on nf will get better for you?
I am constantly trying new things, changing listings, putting up new ones, killing old ones - or at least putting them on ice for a while, i would say its the thing i do the most. When i heard that most people look at the site via their phones i went through every listing and made it phone friendly. And it's also because i can fucking talk, i can run my mouth for the longest and keep a conversation going and going and going, i'm an entertaining gal...and dig into guys heads like scooping ice cream. I can feel that moment when i need to back off a bit and let him settle in because he might hang up and know when i should press and push.
What works for me probably won't work for you. I make crazy bank on chat, i can write, i have never made a single dollar selling pictures. I get my second looks out there but i am not cam material, and besides if you want to see my pussy you can take a nice long look before you go down on me, a couple bucks isn't going to get you there.
Maybe pso-ing saved my life, maybe it didn't. I wish i had started in 2004 or 2007 or whenever nf got going. I don't see any magic money rolling in, occasionally you pick up a knuckhead that will toss around piles of money but usually it's time and effort to dig it the fuck out. I aim for my daily 160 and usually get it.
It's hard to find good numbers but i think that most all flirts are making chicken scratch, so little that i would go back to punching a clock. I think the median earnings for most listings is about fifty bucks a week, which is pretty much a waste of time. If you want to get towards a grand a week consistently you are pushing into rare-air where i think, 95% of all flirts don't get to.
There are indeed buckets of money out there, no doubt, getting it into your bank account is the challenge. You are a low rung sex worker helping guys jerk off, not some upscale pretty woman. Deal with the grime and the shit and wallow in it, if you were better than this job you wouldn't be doing it. So keep at it, give good phone, focus on making money not your 'feels.
Best of luck, i say it often, go back to the beginning of this thread and read everything, there is gold in there.
this text should be the first thing to read before starting the business!
Brilliant!
Victoria_Gray
10-14-2020, 08:55 PM
It's my bday today and I'm at my 9-5 trying yelled at by customers because our ATMs aren't working. Man, how I wish I was at the point where NF and TTM were my main source of income! lol
i put my amazon wishlist in my listing a week ago and have gotten two things. I have my PO Box as the wishlist address and the "name" is just my initials. Unfortunately certain items can't be delivered to a PO Box so I put the amazon, Sephora and Best Buy gift cards as highest priority so they show up at the top. I hope I get more ;)
Happy Birthday!
Also for the person who said they needed 3k per month to live, it absolutly is doable, even for part time. Although, I found OnlyFans worked better for me as time zones make TTM and NF difficult sometimes.
Victoria_Gray
10-14-2020, 09:06 PM
It's hard to find good numbers but I think that most all flirts are making chicken scratch, so little that I would go back to punching a clock. I think the median earnings for most listings is about fifty bucks a week, which is pretty much a waste of time. If you want to get towards a grand a week consistently you are pushing into rare-air where I think, 95% of all flirts don't get to.
To be fair, I think that is most of these sites. When I hit the top 5% of OnlyFans, I knew people were talking shit about how much they were making on TikTok, etc.
There does seem to be a big gap between the top performers and everyone else. I would say I disagree that if people aren't making bank in their first year they never will. This is a side hustle of mine and it took a bit over a year to start making me bank. Perhaps that was because it wasn't my only focus, perhaps that was because my marketing skills aren't the greatest (I can own that) but for some people it's a marathon, not a sprint.
Victoria_Gray
10-14-2020, 09:07 PM
I didn't even know about PPV'S until this year lol.
I start with a pic or short audio recording and work up to longer vids audios etc, my PPV games never end or take a while to complete so they keep paying to reach the end ;)
I just reward them with a little 'enticer' every $50 and that encourages them to continue...
A little bit of everything, that makes sense.
I love the games that never end too! ;)
drnena
10-18-2020, 10:10 AM
I just hit the daily goal on my main profile and it's only 10am! *twerks*