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DiamondCupcakes
06-08-2014, 10:40 AM
I noticed that some girls prefer offering their content in PTV as opposed to the new Goody Bag option. I personally use the goody bags because I am new and don't have many custies to send PTV's too. Plus I figure I can get more views and possible buyer this way. Should I do both or would that seem like overkill? What do you ladies prefer to use?
TattooedBBW
06-08-2014, 08:10 PM
Quick question... can Canadians do PSO stuff on Niteflirt? I'm sorry, I wasn't incredibly clear on that through reading this thread.
Yup we can do NF! The cheque hold time with some banks is insane though! I love NF but I rarely work it because of how long it takes for me to get my $. I usually receive my cheque by the 15th of the month and then my bank puts a 20-business day hold on the cheque since it's a US bank cheque. It sucks! You'll be okay if you've established good credit with cashing cheques with your bank. Unfortunately I recently changed banks within the last few months so I'm back to no tenure with this bank, hence the giant hold. It sucks! Takes over a month for me to get my money :(
DiamondCupcakes
06-09-2014, 12:51 PM
I wish NF would add Payoneer! That would be awesome!
Snowy0Star
06-10-2014, 07:04 PM
about 3 weeks ago I raised my prices to 1.49 and 2.49 (voice only and phone/cam )and for two weeks there was a HUGE drop in my calls a few days ago i lowered them to .99 and 1.99 and im getting called daily now. But i'd like to be able to get $1 a min for voice only and $2 my cut for phone /cam. So what does it take to be able to charge over a dollar on voice only and over 2 on phone/cam.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-10-2014, 07:09 PM
about 3 weeks ago I raised my prices to 1.49 and 2.49 (voice only and phone/cam )and for two weeks there was a HUGE drop in my calls a few days ago i lowered them to .99 and 1.99 and im getting called daily now. But i'd like to be able to get $1 a min for voice only and $2 my cut for phone /cam. So what does it take to be able to charge over a dollar on voice only and over 2 on phone/cam.
I have a question for you...do you bid? If you don't then I suppose my question is irrelevant. Assuming you do, did you notice an increase in your click charges when you raised your prices vs when they were less?
sexysusie
06-10-2014, 07:20 PM
Yup we can do NF! The cheque hold time with some banks is insane though! I love NF but I rarely work it because of how long it takes for me to get my $. I usually receive my cheque by the 15th of the month and then my bank puts a 20-business day hold on the cheque since it's a US bank cheque. It sucks! You'll be okay if you've established good credit with cashing cheques with your bank. Unfortunately I recently changed banks within the last few months so I'm back to no tenure with this bank, hence the giant hold. It sucks! Takes over a month for me to get my money :(
It's the same here in UK. It's just a ridiculously long time to wait. I adore NF and can charge more there than my main site. However they make it unnecessarily hard for anyone not in the US to get paid so it will remain just a backburner for me until that changes.
sexysusie
06-10-2014, 07:21 PM
@Snowy NF guys are USED to paying top whack! I charge $4.99 and $6.99 and easily get shows when I go on. Raise those prices!! I also HIGHLY recommend all PhatGirl's advice about bidding, and the NF private group, it really helped me up my game there x
Snowy0Star
06-10-2014, 07:23 PM
I have a question for you...do you bid? If you don't then I suppose my question is irrelevant. Assuming you do, did you notice an increase in your click charges when you raised your prices vs when they were less?
i do bid and when my rates were higher i was getting clicks that werent converting as much compared to when my prices are lower
Snowy0Star
06-10-2014, 07:24 PM
@Snowy NF guys are USED to paying top whack! I charge $4.99 and $6.99 and easily get shows when I go on. Raise those prices!! I also HIGHLY recommend all PhatGirl's advice about bidding, and the NF private group, it really helped me up my game there x
why are the top girls so cheap then like no one is over 1.99 on the first 2 pages for voice only theyre all less than .99 or 1.60 at the most :/
sexysusie
06-10-2014, 07:27 PM
I really don't know. It baffles me when people charge so little, especially when they are popular.
I can't charge anything less than $3.50 there as it just wouldnt be worth it for me in UK prices. I started at that then raised my prices and actually do better with them higher. When I'm online I'm number 3 in Anything Goes so not exactly unpopular.
I should mention though that my comments pertain mostly to camming on NF. My phone line barely rings, but then I've never promoted it so I can't really say what would happen if I did.
The girls on the first page aren't necessarily top girls. They are the ones who bid for those top spots some may naturally fall into those spots but not all. Sort by Top Available those are the top girls you will see some low prices but some high. Placement has zero to with what a girl makes. Trust me I have seen my placement drop after $100 calls that weren't from featured listings.
I have always charged 1.99 and up for phone, some days that makes me one of the highest priced girl in Ebony depending on who is on. I still get calls. I will ask new callers why they call me 90% of the time they say they read my ad and they just had to call. The kind of guys that will pay higher prices at least in my experience are going to read and they wan't to be ensnared by your words. You have to close that deal on the page. Try tweaking your text a bit. I charge 3.99 for cam, guys pay it. They will pay you may get fewer shows but if you make more money it's worth it to me. I aim for long and profitable calls.
Also depends on the category some categories have generally higher prices.
Also sometimes it takes a little while to get clients at a new price.
JaneBurgess
06-10-2014, 11:17 PM
The norm on there seems to be $1.99 a minute for phone and $2.99 for phone/cam. Some people charge more but thats usually the fetish performers.
about 3 weeks ago I raised my prices to 1.49 and 2.49 (voice only and phone/cam )and for two weeks there was a HUGE drop in my calls a few days ago i lowered them to .99 and 1.99 and im getting called daily now. But i'd like to be able to get $1 a min for voice only and $2 my cut for phone /cam. So what does it take to be able to charge over a dollar on voice only and over 2 on phone/cam.
Snowy0Star
06-10-2014, 11:26 PM
The norm on there seems to be $1.99 a minute for phone and $2.99 for phone/cam. Some people charge more but thats usually the fetish performers.
thats what i was told but i dont get any calls when i go above 1.25 i think I'm going to try and redo my ad and see what happens thax for the advice everyone
JaneBurgess
06-10-2014, 11:33 PM
Try a fetish line at a higher rate and see what happens.
thats what i was told but i dont get any calls when i go above 1.25 i think I'm going to try and redo my ad and see what happens thax for the advice everyone
Snowy0Star
06-11-2014, 04:12 AM
does it help to help advertise like start using social media and stuff because right now i dont. does advertising for urself help get more exposure so u ur not depending on low rates and bidding to get exposure on NF ?
I have body image issues because of my weight and i hate looking at myself and taking pictures its like the one thing thats really holding me back from even starting to use twitter and tumblr maybe instagram too but thats another thread... because i know pix and stuff is a big part of it i think it would be boring lettering my feed with pix of my cat and my face or me in clothes and stuff. we all know what really brings the attention in and what guys wanna see...
ETA : i just made a listing in submissive women at 2.99 and bid on it .20 per click with a 2$ budget right now I'm #11 .
sexysusie
06-11-2014, 08:13 AM
Yes social media does help. I set up a twitter and blog just for NF as my main ones advertise my other sites which NF doesn't allow. However they've since followed my main account anyway and sometimes rt me there too.
By the way I am not a fetish performer specifically, I advertise as vanilla girl next door.
Seriously forget about what others are charging. Advertise outside of NF. If a guy likes you he will pay whatever you're charging x
Outside advertising is key if you want to be successful on NF. That's why you can see top girl who never bid and are never on the front page, because they are bringing their own traffic. The new LVS is screwed I know for a fact that if I get a long call 1 hour or more with a reg at 1.99 my placement does not go up, but a 20 minute call from a featured click will boost me. So placement is not reflective of financial success all the time so do not let what you see others charging on the front pages deter you.
Snowy0Star
06-11-2014, 09:46 AM
thanks guys i understand NF A more now. i need to pimp myself out on social networks.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-11-2014, 05:46 PM
Another question for ya...if you were to bid right now on the same listing for the same spot, what result are you getting? How much is the site telling you it will cost to be in that spot?
does it help to help advertise like start using social media and stuff because right now i dont. does advertising for urself help get more exposure so u ur not depending on low rates and bidding to get exposure on NF ?
I have body image issues because of my weight and i hate looking at myself and taking pictures its like the one thing thats really holding me back from even starting to use twitter and tumblr maybe instagram too but thats another thread... because i know pix and stuff is a big part of it i think it would be boring lettering my feed with pix of my cat and my face or me in clothes and stuff. we all know what really brings the attention in and what guys wanna see...
ETA : i just made a listing in submissive women at 2.99 and bid on it .20 per click with a 2$ budget right now I'm #11 .
Snowy0Star
06-11-2014, 06:24 PM
im #31 now to be #10 it would need to be a 45 cent per click bid
BlasianBytch
06-12-2014, 03:13 PM
I just raised the rate of my last line under 1.99. My vent/ confession line just attracts sub guys. It was originally .99 cents but why give them a fetish experience at such a low price?
I find it also attracted the worst type of subby guys. They wanted to top from the bottom and talked about being "drained" but if you're calling a .99 cent line you can't even try to upsell to an ACTUAL drain line they're broke.
I have been following this thread for some time now and decided to take the plunge into the world of phone sex. i spent 2 days writing my ad, editing images and figuring out HTML. i was really proud of myself and satisfied with the ad i had created so i went ahead and put my listings up. one for just phone and one for phone with cam and eagerly awaited my listings to be approved. it didn't take long for the email to come back. turns out my listings were denied ;( the reason given was...
Your listing has not been accepted for the following reasons: 1) Flirts listed in the Phone with Cam category must provide cam to callers. Please edit your description of your services so that it is relevant to the Phone with Cam category or move your listing to a more appropriate category. 2) NiteFlirt does not permit photos of animals, including stuffed or cartoon animals, as this can be construed as bestiality or age play which are violations of our policies. Please edit your listing accordingly.
The second reason i understood. Whoops had a photo of me on my bed with a stuffed animal in the back so i quickly went in and edited that out. the first reason however i was confused over. i clearly say in my listing i offer HD webcam.but who am i to question policy So i just tried to flesh that out a bit and resubmitted. Thinking i had this covered i went to bed, only to awaken to another letter of denial! this time the reasoning was
Your listing has not been accepted as it appears to be incomplete. Please provide additional content to the body of your listing and resubmit your listing for review.
and they are still complaining i need to offer webcam. Huh? i have like 2 or 3 paragraphs about what i offer including webcam. i even have a list of fetishes and 4 pictures. what gives NF? What's a girl to do? did i miss something here girls? i just don't understand. i have seen ads with literally two sentences and no photos. what on earth am i doing wrong?
MissConceited
06-14-2014, 11:02 AM
^^^^ Write in the listing title that you have cam. That should fix your problem.
Thank you! i will try that and see what happens
however my just phone ad was also rejected. ;( so what could be the problem there? i know it's hard to gauge without me actually showing you my ad but i am trying my best to explain the situation.
chloemay
06-14-2014, 12:06 PM
Thank you! i will try that and see what happens
however my just phone ad was also rejected. ;( so what could be the problem there? i know it's hard to gauge without me actually showing you my ad but i am trying my best to explain the situation.
Right it is hard to say without seeing the ad, also NF sometimes seems like none of their employees communicate with each other and maybe you got someone who was being an asshole that day. That said, do you clearly show your Skype and/or Yahoo messenger ID with a ppv button on your cam ad? Maybe that will help. I'd create a button for it, and make it a goody bag (which also helps to get your listing noticed when it is approved as long as you have a thumbnail pic to go with it.)
Thanks chloe! no i haven't mastered buttons quite yet. i just wanted to get a simple ad up and then take it from there. i will try and get on that. i wanted to charge for my Skype ID but haven't taken the time to add that.. as well as tribute buttons. i guess back to grinding the HTML but it seems NF makes it easy with the create pay to mail stuff. i just need to make a new graphic for it. oi oi i hope that is all it is...but the question still remains why was my phone ad rejected as well??
as far as someone in support just bein a weenie butt.. perhaps? maybe i was doomed from the start having a stuffed animal in one of my photos. i hope not!
thanks!
chloemay
06-14-2014, 12:39 PM
I sent you a pm
sin69
06-14-2014, 03:17 PM
How long does it usually take CS to get back to you? I just signed up but they seem to have given me a customer account instead of a flirt account. I messaged them and it's been about 24 hours.
Snowy0Star
06-14-2014, 03:35 PM
How long does it usually take CS to get back to you? I just signed up but they seem to have given me a customer account instead of a flirt account. I messaged them and it's been about 24 hours.
just log into ur account and click the link on the bottom that says become a flirt it turn it into a model account
JaneBurgess
06-14-2014, 08:50 PM
Did you mention how they can get your ID's to do the cam show? I would mention that you either give it out during the call or that they need to buy your id's before the call. NiteFlirt can be a pain on HTML and certain words.
I have been following this thread for some time now and decided to take the plunge into the world of phone sex. i spent 2 days writing my ad, editing images and figuring out HTML. i was really proud of myself and satisfied with the ad i had created so i went ahead and put my listings up. one for just phone and one for phone with cam and eagerly awaited my listings to be approved. it didn't take long for the email to come back. turns out my listings were denied ;( the reason given was...
Your listing has not been accepted for the following reasons: 1) Flirts listed in the Phone with Cam category must provide cam to callers. Please edit your description of your services so that it is relevant to the Phone with Cam category or move your listing to a more appropriate category. 2) NiteFlirt does not permit photos of animals, including stuffed or cartoon animals, as this can be construed as bestiality or age play which are violations of our policies. Please edit your listing accordingly.
The second reason i understood. Whoops had a photo of me on my bed with a stuffed animal in the back so i quickly went in and edited that out. the first reason however i was confused over. i clearly say in my listing i offer HD webcam.but who am i to question policy So i just tried to flesh that out a bit and resubmitted. Thinking i had this covered i went to bed, only to awaken to another letter of denial! this time the reasoning was
Your listing has not been accepted as it appears to be incomplete. Please provide additional content to the body of your listing and resubmit your listing for review.
and they are still complaining i need to offer webcam. Huh? i have like 2 or 3 paragraphs about what i offer including webcam. i even have a list of fetishes and 4 pictures. what gives NF? What's a girl to do? did i miss something here girls? i just don't understand. i have seen ads with literally two sentences and no photos. what on earth am i doing wrong?
That is an awesome idea jane! i didn't mention how to get my skype ID whoops. eventually something will work! i will have to try that out too! thank you so much
Snowy0Star
06-15-2014, 07:31 AM
I think theyre cracking down on ads im trying to make a new character on NF for over a week now and theyre nit picking my pix but when i made my phone with cam ad it was pretty much approved the next day and its the exact same HTML coding as my voice only
Nikki_Fox
06-17-2014, 11:51 AM
Trying to get an update - has anyone heard from VivianBear? Does anyone have a way to contact her outside of SW? If so can you please pm me.
Thanks everyone! it finally worked and i got my ads approved ;)
Snowy0Star
06-17-2014, 03:29 PM
Trying to get an update - has anyone heard from VivianBear? Does anyone have a way to contact her outside of SW? If so can you please pm me.
Last Activity 10-24-2013 09:57 AM - i think she quit sw
i found her NF and her twitter from her siggy shes still active on both so maybe try there? her see me live link in her siggy goes to her tumblr so thats another option
Nikki_Fox
06-17-2014, 04:09 PM
Thanks Snowy - I wanted to contact her regarding the verified phone sex group - since she is the keeper of the group I wanted to see if she would name a co-mod to the group or turn it over so we could keep it active and allow new members to join - if she doesnt want to the only option is to start a new group - which would really suck since that group is already a treasure chest of info - I will see if I can get a response through one of the options you mentioned - I didnt even think to look at her siggy - you so smart :)
Nikki_Fox
06-17-2014, 04:39 PM
okay - message sent - crossing fingers - Now for the next question - if she wants a co-mod - who would be willing so I can give her some options ??? any volunteers or nominations?
Snowy0Star
06-17-2014, 04:52 PM
okay - message sent - crossing fingers - Now for the next question - if she wants a co-mod - who would be willing so I can give her some options ??? any volunteers or nominations?
i can do it if no one else wants to
ok so.. i went to sign into my NF account tonight to check it out., turns out my cam listing was accepted. woowooo! but... my phone one wasn't? oi oi NF! lol i will keep working on it girls just wanted to commiserate haha ;)
btw if you all get the PS group going again i would love to join!
Snowy0Star
06-18-2014, 02:31 AM
I have question for ppl who have multiple characters with their own twitter. what do u talk about/post about on them? since pix are a big thing and all do u just pretend ur real and post everyday life stuff and repost the pix from the content packages u got from them as well as advertise ur line?
Nikki_Fox
06-18-2014, 05:58 AM
I had not been on my twitter account in forever until yesterday looking for Vivian - I was surprised at the number of followers I had acquired -
@Lum - I am working on it - I have not gotten a response yet :(
Thanks Snowy - hopefully she will respond soon
Nikki_Fox
06-18-2014, 01:36 PM
I already know the answer to this but I have to ask anyway - have they made a way to cancel all of your bids at once? I just want to make sure I am not overlooking it :)
chloemay
06-20-2014, 11:12 AM
I already know the answer to this but I have to ask anyway - have they made a way to cancel all of your bids at once? I just want to make sure I am not overlooking it :)
Wish I knew, but I only bid one or two listings at a time. This reminds me to cancel them, fuckin niteflirt is only getting about half of my calls to come through lately. This is the first time I've been hit with a glitch that is so consistent, and its a bad one.
Nikki_Fox
06-20-2014, 11:30 AM
Yea I normally just bid a couple also but i have to get the money flowing so I have been hitting most of them on my main account - I never bid more than .17 to .20 and usually it is way less than that - like .05 or .07 --- and I max at 3 clicks just in case I forget - I used to let my money build on there but I need it so I switched to the daily express and I think it actually motivates me to hit a goal instead of thinking I have a large amount sitting there - I think NF is avoiding an update to allow all to be cancelled because they make money when we forget to cancel them -
Snowy0Star
06-20-2014, 02:56 PM
does anyone know the minimum u need to get for daily express to go thru ? some days it doesnt go in when i only have a few bucks in my account on days my bids ran out and i didnt redo them and stuff and i notice the next day the money i made the day before is still in my account.
DonaDiabla
06-20-2014, 02:59 PM
Chloemay, the same thing happen to my listings as well. However, it happen to me last week...weird that is happening to more people :(
Wish I knew, but I only bid one or two listings at a time. This reminds me to cancel them, fuckin niteflirt is only getting about half of my calls to come through lately. This is the first time I've been hit with a glitch that is so consistent, and its a bad one.
DonaDiabla
06-20-2014, 03:04 PM
Snowy, I pretend that all of my characters are real on social media sites such as Twitter and facebook. You can talk about different things but make sure that advertise your line. You can have some success with social media with your phone sex characters. However, I will say that facebook have more idiots on there thinking you will be talking to them for free. Twitter offer me greater success with my niteflirt phone sex characters.
I have question for ppl who have multiple characters with their own twitter. what do u talk about/post about on them? since pix are a big thing and all do u just pretend ur real and post everyday life stuff and repost the pix from the content packages u got from them as well as advertise ur line?
chloemay
06-20-2014, 03:19 PM
does anyone know the minimum u need to get for daily express to go thru ? some days it doesnt go in when i only have a few bucks in my account on days my bids ran out and i didnt redo them and stuff and i notice the next day the money i made the day before is still in my account.
I think $20 with 5 left in the account but I've been there so long that might not be right anymore.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-20-2014, 03:59 PM
You have to have at least $10 in your account not including the amount left for bidding. So if you have it set for $2 to bid your amount will have to be $12 or more before you get a daily pull. If you have it set for $5 your amount would have to be $15 before you get a pull.
BlondebombGA
06-22-2014, 11:21 AM
Alright ladies, I think the time has come to start another PSO/NF Group that can actually accept new members and so I have. I'd really like to see this one become a lot more active than the last ones have been, as I would MUCH rather talk shop with you ladies than the other forums I am on. This way we can also keep some of the secret info under wraps kinda like verified rather have every dude who googles NF finding our shop talk.
I'd like to keep it for current NF and other PSO and Arousr ladies for right now. This thread is perfectly fine for those curious about the ins and outs and starting up. Send a join request, and if further verification is needed for those I don't know I will send you the details.
To be eligible, you must be both active on SW and NF or other PSO site. If you are a SW powerhouse, yet have not quite jumped into PSO work yet then please look into joining after you have been at it for a while with feedback to verify this.
Can't figure out how to link it, so just look under PSO Land! in Groups.