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sarabimaraj
11-08-2022, 05:38 AM
I work 7 days a week and I'm only not logged in when I sleep. I do promote on social media but I don't seem to get much traffic from that. Any ideas on how to get things moving?

Please give yourself a little grace. I know things have been challenging for many on NF. I have several different characters and one of them I don't bid for. I used this character as a test to see how quickly I could generate my own traffic. This character has her own site, social media, and BDSMLR account. Most of my customers find me by searching for specific keywords on Google. While blogging does take time to get customers, it is a relatively cheap means of advertising. In this business or any really it's going to cost you regardless of either time or money. Some will say it's not worth having a website and why send the customers that you generate to NF to be their customers? It really boils down to what you want. For me, it's worth it because if anything ever happens to NF, my customers can still visit my website and get in touch with me.

It's good you send out stuff once a week and create fresh content. There was an article a while ago in the NF forum that showed the statistics for goodies. It provided really good pricing points and what customers have been buying, what's most popular when it comes to length, etc. I can send you the link since it may help you get more sales. It helped me tremendously.

Revamping your listings completely would be a start.

You can always message me and I can give you other tips.

HexCode
11-08-2022, 01:59 PM
So today was day 2 of NF and it was slightly better than my first day. I was online for 5 hours, only received 3 calls and one of those calls the guy hung up immediately after we said hello. Not sure what that was about... The other two calls were OK. One call was 13 minutes long and the other was 20 minutes long. I sent them both mail hoping that they'll be encouraged to leave me a good review. Is there a better way to get them to leave reviews?

I bid to put myself on the first page of my listing subcategory because nothing was happening for me on the third page for two hours straight and I grew frustrated. On the plus side, my listings were only clicked on 4 times so I only really lost $3. The downside is that my listing was barely getting any attention even on the first page :/

I only got one chat invitation and I kinda fucked it up by replying the wrong way. But you live and learn, I guess, so I'm learning from my mistakes on what to say/what not to say to keep customers talking.

This is my first time doing anything sex work related so I know I'm not going to be a pro at it. I'm expecting to bomb some calls/chats until I figure out what works for me.

seashell
11-08-2022, 04:48 PM
So today was day 2 of NF and it was slightly better than my first day. I was online for 5 hours, only received 3 calls and one of those calls the guy hung up immediately after we said hello. Not sure what that was about... The other two calls were OK. One call was 13 minutes long and the other was 20 minutes long. I sent them both mail hoping that they'll be encouraged to leave me a good review. Is there a better way to get them to leave reviews?

I bid to put myself on the first page of my listing subcategory because nothing was happening for me on the third page for two hours straight and I grew frustrated. On the plus side, my listings were only clicked on 4 times so I only really lost $3. The downside is that my listing was barely getting any attention even on the first page :/

I only got one chat invitation and I kinda fucked it up by replying the wrong way. But you live and learn, I guess, so I'm learning from my mistakes on what to say/what not to say to keep customers talking.

This is my first time doing anything sex work related so I know I'm not going to be a pro at it. I'm expecting to bomb some calls/chats until I figure out what works for me.

It does take time to learn the ropes, so don't put too much pressure on yourself! The key is to keep at it. Every day you show up, you're actively gaining skills and building a following.

MaryElizabeth
11-08-2022, 07:37 PM
]This is my first time doing anything sex work related so I know I'm not going to be a pro at it. I'm expecting to bomb some calls/chats until I figure out what works for me.

https://www.uslove.com/ has pretty great "new girl" money. I started there, learned a lot, made money, for a gal starting out it's good, maybe even great. Be nice to the operators, I had a list with the operators #'s and then their names and used their names, they can steer you calls. If you want to start there be polite and go to the chat window and ask.

And one of my very first callers there gave me a jumpstart and explained to me how to be a PSO - don't fuck around to much, get to it, gave me amazing advice. They tend towards older callers, which is fine, and the pay is tight (30 cents minute?) but its a good place to learn at this point you are better off with lots of low paid calls so you can figure out what works. When I left I brought one guy over from there to NF and knocked my price down to like, .27cents a minute? (basically free) as long as he left stars and that's how I got my first couple dozen stars, calls that are 15 minutes also get stars.

There are a lot of gals (even here) who will tell you what is and is not allowed and the "terms of service" and for the most part, fuck all that. NF knows we are talking about everything/anything and don't want to know, and the bar for law enforcement to listen in is sky high and they won't bother. And sign up for multiple services. I don't know if TTM is worth it anymore, I still do it but I'm at 50% and didn't have to do the time on the chat line.

And read this thread, all of it. And to save you, don't fuck around too much, get comfortable saying c*nt, begging for facials, telling a guy how much you like licking as$. If you want to make bank, yea, get comfortable with incest and all the rest of the dark shit.

NF is VERY sink or swim, that you are getting calls day on 2 is doing better than nearly all. Reading https://www.literotica.com/ is solid and advisable. Yes, you are in the business of "sex work related" , yea, as I say "a low rung sex worker". Don't be too precious, you are not a princess you are a jizz rag. Get that into your brain and sail deep into the land of money and making bank. There is an ocean of money out there, do you go to the shore with a tea cup or a bucket....

Best of luck
mm

Growlerpussy
11-09-2022, 03:44 AM
Does anyone lnow how many times the Goodie section is updated per day? I sold 14 voicesamples in the last 4 hours and I'm still not whowing up in the "Top goodies this week". Nobody can tell me that the goodies shown there sold more than that.
I remember a few months back after selling 3 or 4 of the same in a few hours i was in there immediately. Did they changed it?

Growlerpussy
11-09-2022, 06:19 AM
Honestly, i have sometimes so fucking enough of the chat feature. On a daily basis i have guys sending message after message, even when it shows that I'm offline. yesterday a guy send 15 messages and pics in a row while i was OFFLINE.
it cant be a challenge or difficult to put something technical in place and stop those cunts to send a chat message when someone is clearly offline. It's a fucking nightmare. It's great when I'm available and in chat, but just a waste when they spam you not only with messages , but in chat too. And there should be a limit of characters too. Some just ask 10 question and want you to reply in one long sentence back.
I'm so fucking pissed of right now.

izshadow
11-09-2022, 11:19 AM
Honestly, i have sometimes so fucking enough of the chat feature. On a daily basis i have guys sending message after message, even when it shows that I'm offline. yesterday a guy send 15 messages and pics in a row while i was OFFLINE.
it cant be a challenge or difficult to put something technical in place and stop those cunts to send a chat message when someone is clearly offline. It's a fucking nightmare. It's great when I'm available and in chat, but just a waste when they spam you not only with messages , but in chat too. And there should be a limit of characters too. Some just ask 10 question and want you to reply in one long sentence back.
I'm so fucking pissed of right now.

I have this same issue. I am not in front of my computer 24/7 to check your stupid 13 cent or 25 cent chat. I cant even remember its so low haha. So I turned it to offline and it did nothing. One guy actually blew up my chat the other night cause I didn't answer. He was high so I know it was an issue on his end, not mine but damn. I'm about to delete that listing cause I'm over it. I dont make enough from it for it to feed my emotions like it is.

HexCode
11-09-2022, 01:37 PM
It does take time to learn the ropes, so don't put too much pressure on yourself! The key is to keep at it. Every day you show up, you're actively gaining skills and building a following.
Thanks. I will keep working on it. I didn't do Niteflirt today. What I did was work on my system. I take the calls when I'm at my desk in my apartment so what I did today was update my work system. Above my desk, I stuck a ton of notes on the wall in big block letters of ideas about what to say whether it's how to greet the callers or the dirty things they want to hear me say during our roleplays. I also did research today by watching a lot of submissive women porn just to get a better idea of what guys are expecting to hear from me during our calls. Tomorrow I will try out my new system.

I'm super disappointed that the men who called me yesterday didn't leave any reviews. I really wanted some feedback.

I was thinking that once I begin getting a bit more money coming in that I'm going to buy the rights to a licensed model's photos and create another account for that and see how it goes. Right now I can't afford buying anything, but maybe later on I'll try it.


has pretty great "new girl" money. I started there, learned a lot, made money, for a gal starting out it's good, maybe even great. Be nice to the operators, I had a list with the operators #'s and then their names and used their names, they can steer you calls. If you want to start there be polite and go to the chat window and ask.

And one of my very first callers there gave me a jumpstart and explained to me how to be a PSO - don't fuck around to much, get to it, gave me amazing advice. They tend towards older callers, which is fine, and the pay is tight (30 cents minute?) but its a good place to learn at this point you are better off with lots of low paid calls so you can figure out what works. When I left I brought one guy over from there to NF and knocked my price down to like, .27cents a minute? (basically free) as long as he left stars and that's how I got my first couple dozen stars, calls that are 15 minutes also get stars.

There are a lot of gals (even here) who will tell you what is and is not allowed and the "terms of service" and for the most part, fuck all that. NF knows we are talking about everything/anything and don't want to know, and the bar for law enforcement to listen in is sky high and they won't bother. And sign up for multiple services. I don't know if TTM is worth it anymore, I still do it but I'm at 50% and didn't have to do the time on the chat line.

And read this thread, all of it. And to save you, don't fuck around too much, get comfortable saying c*nt, begging for facials, telling a guy how much you like licking as$. If you want to make bank, yea, get comfortable with incest and all the rest of the dark shit.

NF is VERY sink or swim, that you are getting calls day on 2 is doing better than nearly all. Reading is solid and advisable. Yes, you are in the business of "sex work related" , yea, as I say "a low rung sex worker". Don't be too precious, you are not a princess you are a jizz rag. Get that into your brain and sail deep into the land of money and making bank. There is an ocean of money out there, do you go to the shore with a tea cup or a bucket....

Best of luck
mm
Thanks for the helpful info. Yeah, I think yesterday I messed up my first chat invitation because the guy told me he wanted to roleplay like stepdad/stepdaughter or boss/secretary or babysitter and I told him that I'm not sure if I can do the stepdad/stepdaughter thing because it might be against NF rules, but that I'm totally down for the other roleplays and he went radio silent after that. I realized I fucked up and shouldn't have mentioned the NF rules as it probably killed the mood of our convo. And tbh I don't mind doing stepdad/stepdaughter roleplay over the phone, I was just paranoid thinking that NF was monitoring our texts lol. I should've just said something like "I'm up for anything you want" or "I'd love to roleplay boss/secretary or babysitter with you" without ever mentioning NF rules. So that mistake was a learning experience for me. I won't do that again.

That link you sent me to literotica is an absolute goldmine, thank you. I'm saving a lot of the stories to steal ideas from.

seashell
11-09-2022, 03:23 PM
I personally don't break the rules, the whole daddy/daughter thing is past my comfort zone, but damn I get some weirrrrd calls, regardless -- I do fetish, and these guys have insane imaginations, lol. I'm too much of a rule follower, especially since I depend so much on this as an income source. It's still very possible to make plenty of money without breaking their official rules, but it's true that phone sex is kind of a weirdo magnet.

MaryElizabeth
11-09-2022, 04:43 PM
...he wanted to roleplay like stepdad/stepdaughter or boss/secretary or babysitter and I told him that I'm not sure if I can do the stepdad/stepdaughter thing because it might be against NF rules...

For me talking / voice absolutely anything goes. The people that work at NF are slammed busy, they don't have the time or care to investigate their own flirts/callers and bust them off the site.

Step dad is fine though, its only direct incest that counts, step brother, step dad, all that is fine. For chat, you being new, a guy you never talked to I would say "can I call you 'SD', is that enough? As in SD I don't think we should be doing this, what if MM finds out? If you both agree on terms, be coy about it, but just go with what you are comfortable with. "Should I get my younger sister" is fine , you are not saying an age, she's as young as he thinks she is.


EDIT - I was wrong:
"Incest and Incest Fantasies including "step" relations, "in-law" relations, and "Daddy," "Mommy," "Grandmother," "Aunt," or any fantasy about a family member. Even a third cousin twice removed. No family relations, period. "

The inside baseball here is that, deep down guys want you to be famished for their cocks. Start off fearfull and reserved but eventually you NEEEED his meat and his jixx is the best thing ever !!! (vomit emoji)

Messing around with peoples credit cards, money or taking guys off site for payment and all that - yea, those are the only times I have heard of people getting punted off the site - like hard, get that one they'll never even consider letting you back in or even read your messages I think. That one, yea, I never go near that line, no way no how. And I have heard of guys will bust you , take you off site and get screenshots and turn you in, get a rush out of slamming you, so don't do that.

But if you are chatting with a guy you have to pull that in, "How about I was your baby sitter but now that I am back from my first semester of college I am all grown up and I come knock on your door...or my mom asks you to pick me up and bring me back for the holidays...or I am working as a waitress after HS and you are at the bar......something else saucy, the biggest battle is getting guys to call / message so when they do - extract.

Reading Literotica is great, give you a bunch of stupid / cheezy / inane ways an exchange can go. There are porns where the woman is talking to the camera, Baby Sitter Joi, those are good too, lots of talking, how to talk about things, present things. Personally Mistress T did me a ton of good.

I know I run closer to the edge and go into darker territory than many / most. But maybe 25%, 1/3rd? of my earnings is the gnarly shit and I decided to sacrifice my soul for $. Everyone has to find what works. But really go to the first post of this thread and read it all.

best luck

Staci
11-09-2022, 05:46 PM
Step dad is fine though, its only direct incest that counts, step brother, step dad, all that is fine.
Actually, "steps" are not okay per NF rules. I know you said you choose to not adhere to them - but I wanted to clarify that they are against the rules.

https://support.niteflirt.com/hc/en-us/articles/212830688-NiteFlirt-Rules#prohibited_content
(https://support.niteflirt.com/hc/en-us/articles/212830688-NiteFlirt-Rules#prohibited_content)
"Incest and Incest Fantasies including "step" relations, "in-law" relations, and "Daddy," "Mommy," "Grandmother," "Aunt," or any fantasy about a family member. Even a third cousin twice removed. No family relations, period. "

HexCode
11-09-2022, 05:48 PM
I personally don't break the rules, the whole daddy/daughter thing is past my comfort zone, but damn I get some weirrrrd calls, regardless -- I do fetish, and these guys have insane imaginations, lol. I'm too much of a rule follower, especially since I depend so much on this as an income source. It's still very possible to make plenty of money without breaking their official rules, but it's true that phone sex is kind of a weirdo magnet.
It's the same for me as I don't have other options right now other than doing Niteflirt. I have this huge debt that I need to start slowly paying off now otherwise it'll get sent to the revenue agency and they'll come after me. I am serious enough about NF that I created a cross border bank account based in the US just for NF even though I live in Canada. I needed that Express Pay option badly. I want to avoid texting anything against NF rules, but I don't care what we talk about over the phone since I doubt NF listens to phone calls.

I'm also looking at another job for an online English transcriber position for some extra income since I know NF can sometimes have days where business is slow. Although sadly the pay is so little compared to NF.

For me talking / voice absolutely anything goes. The people that work at NF are slammed busy, they don't have the time or care to investigate their own flirts/callers and bust them off the site.

Step dad is fine though, its only direct incest that counts, step brother, step dad, all that is fine. For chat, you being new, a guy you never talked to I would say "can I call you 'SD', is that enough? As in SD I don't think we should be doing this, what if MM finds out? If you both agree on terms, be coy about it, but just go with what you are comfortable with. "Should I get my younger sister" is fine , you are not saying an age, she's as young as he thinks she is.

The inside baseball here is that, deep down guys want you to be famished for their cocks. Start off fearfull and reserved but eventually you NEEEED his meat and his jixx is the best thing ever !!! (vomit emoji)

Messing around with peoples credit cards, money or taking guys off site for payment and all that - yea, those are the only times I have heard of people getting punted off the site - like hard, get that one they'll never even consider letting you back in or even read your messages I think. That one, yea, I never go near that line, no way no how. And I have heard of guys will bust you , take you off site and get screenshots and turn you in, get a rush out of slamming you, so don't do that.

But if you are chatting with a guy you have to pull that in, "How about I was your baby sitter but now that I am back from my first semester of college I am all grown up and I come knock on your door...or my mom asks you to pick me up and bring me back for the holidays...or I am working as a waitress after HS and you are at the bar......something else saucy, the biggest battle is getting guys to call / message so when they do - extract.

Reading Literotica is great, give you a bunch of stupid / cheezy / inane ways an exchange can go. There are porns where the woman is talking to the camera, Baby Sitter Joi, those are good too, lots of talking, how to talk about things, present things. Personally Mistress T did me a ton of good.

I know I run closer to the edge and go into darker territory than many / most. But maybe 25%, 1/3rd? of my earnings is the gnarly shit and I decided to sacrifice my soul for $. Everyone has to find what works. But really go to the first post of this thread and read it all.

best luck
Oh no, I would never mess around with credit cards and crimes like identity fraud. Not interested in going to jail so I won't have anything to worry about.

I have a lot of fetishes to learn about. My second caller yesterday wanted to do Hypnosis on me which threw me in for a loop because my listing doesn't mention Hypnosis at all and I knew nothing about this fetish. But the caller was nice about it and told me that he'd tell me what to do. So I played along with it and he seemed to enjoy himself and after we finished he told me I could learn more about the Hypnosis fetish on YouTube if I'm interested. It did feel awkward not knowing and I know my weakness is being bad at improvising unexpected conversations like that and thinking quick on my feet. I'm honestly grateful that guy was nice because he could've easily just hung up on me to go talk to a more experienced flirt instead.

Although maybe there are some guys out there who dig the innocence/naivety/cluelessness of inexperienced girls? Maybe that is something I can work in my favor and make it part of my niche?

seashell
11-09-2022, 07:07 PM
It's the same for me as I don't have other options right now other than doing Niteflirt. I have this huge debt that I need to start slowly paying off now otherwise it'll get sent to the revenue agency and they'll come after me. I am serious enough about NF that I created a cross border bank account based in the US just for NF even though I live in Canada. I needed that Express Pay option badly. I want to avoid texting anything against NF rules, but I don't care what we talk about over the phone since I doubt NF listens to phone calls.

I'm also looking at another job for an online English transcriber position for some extra income since I know NF can sometimes have days where business is slow. Although sadly the pay is so little compared to NF.

Oh no, I would never mess around with credit cards and crimes like identity fraud. Not interested in going to jail so I won't have anything to worry about.

I have a lot of fetishes to learn about. My second caller yesterday wanted to do Hypnosis on me which threw me in for a loop because my listing doesn't mention Hypnosis at all and I knew nothing about this fetish. But the caller was nice about it and told me that he'd tell me what to do. So I played along with it and he seemed to enjoy himself and after we finished he told me I could learn more about the Hypnosis fetish on YouTube if I'm interested. It did feel awkward not knowing and I know my weakness is in being bad at improvising unexpected conversations like that and thinking quick on my feet. I'm honestly grateful that guy was nice because he could've easily just hung up on me to go talk to a more experienced flirt instead.

Although maybe there are some guys out there who dig the innocence/naivety/cluelessness of inexperienced girls? Maybe that is something I can work in my favor and make it part of my niche?

oooh I love the hypno fetish! I do a lot of hypno ASMR, and it's so easy... I'll put the guy "under hypnosis," and the line will just be silent with me talking about all the ways he's going to submit and worship Goddess, and planting triggers.

Hmm, come to think of it, I've somehow built a customer base where I do like 90% of the talking and barely deal with their bullshit, lol. Highly recommend Goddess/Femdom stuff.

Spemily
11-10-2022, 12:00 PM
A quick note on rule breaking on NF, though I'm sure I've said similar things here before:

NF doesn't record or monitor calls (although they do reserve the legal right to do so and there have been rumors of "secret callers"). It's fairly safe to engage in rule-breaking during a call. However, NF doesn't like to see any evidence of rule breaking on the site itself, especially not in public areas that anyone can see. If you're going skirt or break the rules, do not do it in chat or in email. NF doesn't actively monitor those, either, but they are there forever, even if you personally delete them. If you have evidence of rule-breaking there, you put yourself in a position where it becomes difficult to ask NF for help or technical support. You don't want to end up suspended because you had an issue with your email and the person who took a look at it spotted a bunch of emails with TOS violations. You'll also want to be careful of customers leaving you feedback that clearly indicates you've broken the rules. NF will probably not suspend you based on the contents of feedback (since they have no way of knowing if the customer is just lying or confused or whatever), but they will remove the feedback if they see it. And, it's always possible that if you get too much feedback like that, they might decide to check your email or chat.

Also, just because NF doesn't currently monitor mail or chat, that doesn't mean they can't decide to start or to look over old chats and emails if they want to. So keep those very clean and within the rules.

Finally, not all rules are created equal. The rules about content, like not discussing incest, ageplay, rape and the like, are rules that come from the credit card processors. If NF doesn't keep the site clear of these things, they can lose their ability to process credit cards. They do enforce these rules, but usually just by deleting the content in question and maybe a little slap on the wrist for the offender (but often not). However, rules related to NF's financial interests and legal rules are enforced with a lot harsher punishments. If NF catches you promoting other sites, accepting other forms of payment, using the site to sell illegal things, posting illegal content, participating in any kind of fraud against the site or customers, you will, at the very least be suspended and possibly completely banned.

grneyesnfl
11-10-2022, 12:43 PM
Also, just because NF doesn't currently monitor mail or chat, that doesn't mean they can't decide to start or to look over old chats and emails if they want to. So keep those very clean and within the rules.


NF has never said they don't monitor email or chat. Do I think they're reading them? More than likely they are not, unless something came up that gave them reason to take a peek. I'm almost certain they have it set up so that certain keywords get flagged and NF is then notified. Some probable keywords: PayPal, Venmo, CashApp, family names (mom/dad/brother/sister) competitor's sites names, phone numbers, etc.

HexCode
11-10-2022, 05:42 PM
Christmas came early for me yesterday when I looked into my bank account and found an income tax cheque deposited into my account which really saved my ass this month. I put most of it towards my student debt and the rest I used $20 to buy a licensed model's set from [removed]. I made another account, set up her listings, but how do I add her photos to the goodie bag? When I bought her photos, I was sent two additionals things: one was a license pdf that had the company owner's name and address and the other thing I got was pictures of the model's photo IDs. When I fill out the 2257 license form of the goody bag, do I put the company owner's info or do I put the actual model's info? Or do I put both?

Another question I have is I was thinking of doing a FinDom listing with this model later on at some point, but does it have to be domination related? Because I was considering doing a listing that's aimed for white knight callers who want to rescue this young woman from living in squalor. Is that considered against the rules? The model in the photos seems to have taken some of her photos in a home that looks like it has some mold on the walls and I thought wow I could really use that to my advantage lmao

Yayayasmine
11-10-2022, 09:19 PM
Do you are block people who call for under five minutes? I’ve gotten lots of people that call but some of them have only lasted me two or three minutes. Some asshole called me today and only talked for about four minutes and lied on me and gave me a bad review saying that I am old and slow on the phone. I was thinking about putting a warning in my bio that anybody that calls for less than five minutes will be blocked because that would’ve prevented me from getting that bad review. Thank you ladies for your wonderful advice!

MaryElizabeth
11-10-2022, 11:13 PM
Do you are block people who call for under five minutes?

I call this "short game" and yea, super annoying but it's also $. This guy, 4-5 minutes a call. Sometimes I wonder if its worth it but, it adds up over time. 71 shorter calls + some chats = adds up to real money.

57784

Growlerpussy
11-11-2022, 02:13 AM
"anybody that calls for less than five minutes will be blocked because that would’ve prevented me from getting that bad review."

That will be a challenge for some guys and won't stop them to hang up whenever they want. As soon 2 or 3 will leave you bad feedback, you will take it out of your profile and deblock the guys who called for a few minutes, just to get some traffic and calls at all.

Some of us been there and there's nothing more challeneging for guys to see a new flirt with high demands, just to rip her apart.
But feel free to have a go and try it.

Yayayasmine
11-11-2022, 04:43 AM
Okay, and that’s a good point because at first I thought that there wasn’t a lot of money in chat since it’s cheap but the chat does add up. I could definitely see where chat and short calls would at least give me some money for bidding. Thank you for your advice.

Yayayasmine
11-11-2022, 04:46 AM
OK I definitely see what you’re saying. and that’s true I have to except that there’s always going to be someone who might not be happy with my service. Sometimes I get so caught up in the idea of having long calls but I can see where the short ones add up too. Thank you for your advice and insight.

RambleOnRose
11-11-2022, 10:38 AM
I call this "short game" and yea, super annoying but it's also $. This guy, 4-5 minutes a call. Sometimes I wonder if its worth it but, it adds up over time. 71 shorter calls + some chats = adds up to real money.

57784

100%! There are days when I prefer the short calls as they're not as brain draining. Some of my best long term regulars call for just a few minutes, but more often. Maybe they have a tight cash flow, and they're spending that precious disposable income on me. :)

Victoria_Gray
11-14-2022, 12:05 AM
Please give yourself a little grace. I know things have been challenging for many on NF. I have several different characters and one of them I don't bid for. I used this character as a test to see how quickly I could generate my own traffic. This character has her own site, social media, and BDSMLR account. Most of my customers find me by searching for specific keywords on Google. While blogging does take time to get customers, it is a relatively cheap means of advertising. In this business or any really it's going to cost you regardless of either time or money. Some will say it's not worth having a website and why send the customers that you generate to NF to be their customers? It really boils down to what you want. For me, it's worth it because if anything ever happens to NF, my customers can still visit my website and get in touch with me.

It's good you send out stuff once a week and create fresh content. There was an article a while ago in the NF forum that showed the statistics for goodies. It provided really good pricing points and what customers have been buying, what's most popular when it comes to length, etc. I can send you the link since it may help you get more sales. It helped me tremendously.

Revamping your listings completely would be a start.

You can always message me and I can give you other tips.

How are you finding BDSMLR? I have been umming and ahhing for a while. Used to get a lot of leads on FetLife, not so much anymore now they're strongly anti SW

sarabimaraj
11-14-2022, 08:48 AM
How are you finding BDSMLR? I have been umming and ahhing for a while. Used to get a lot of leads on FetLife, not so much anymore now they're strongly anti SW

I've posted links to my goodies and some of my followers on BDSMLR have purchased them. I say give it a try.

LavenderSage
11-14-2022, 12:18 PM
Can anyone possibly explain how to “pre-block” usernames that have been blacklisted? As far as I can tell they need to be a customer first? Or if I search names I can’t find them / block them. Trying to avoid bad users as much as possible!

Thanks for any help on this!

Staci
11-14-2022, 12:47 PM
Can anyone possibly explain how to “pre-block” usernames that have been blacklisted? As far as I can tell they need to be a customer first? Or if I search names I can’t find them / block them. Trying to avoid bad users as much as possible!

Thanks for any help on this!

Go into your account > Mail > Options (Tab) > Blocked Members and type in the username that you want blocked.

LavenderSage
11-14-2022, 02:59 PM
Go into your account > Mail > Options (Tab) > Blocked Members and type in the username that you want blocked.

Thank you!

I tried looking for this answer but, when you block someone they can no longer see your listing right? It says they “can’t send you mail” but I’m presuming they can’t call or find you either, or see and click your listing in search.. Hopefully!

queenelayliah
11-14-2022, 06:25 PM
It's good you send out stuff once a week and create fresh content. There was an article a while ago in the NF forum that showed the statistics for goodies. It provided really good pricing points and what customers have been buying, what's most popular when it comes to length, etc. I can send you the link since it may help you get more sales. It helped me tremendously.

Revamping your listings completely would be a start.

You can always message me and I can give you other tips.



Hi is possible you can send me the link as well? Please.

Growlerpussy
11-14-2022, 10:18 PM
Thank you!

I tried looking for this answer but, when you block someone they can no longer see your listing right? It says they “can’t send you mail” but I’m presuming they can’t call or find you either, or see and click your listing in search.. Hopefully!

No, you can forget about that. They will still see you and what most of them do is, they FAVOURITE you. you will get a favourite message of them, but they can't call, message or chat with you.

I get plenty of "Someone added you to their favourites" and wen i check the costumer name, it shows o the details that he's blocked.

HexCode
11-14-2022, 10:31 PM
Quick newbie question. Does sending offer mail help get customers to call you back another time? I was thinking of sending 5 free minutes. What happens if they decide not to call back? Do you lose money from giving away free minutes?

Growlerpussy
11-15-2022, 10:36 AM
Quick newbie question. Does sending offer mail help get customers to call you back another time? I was thinking of sending 5 free minutes. What happens if they decide not to call back? Do you lose money from giving away free minutes?

Don't start it. Organize your lists. And send really , I mean really good costumers who spend some money on you maybe once in a while 1 free minute. Don't make it 5. They will think "Oh, next time she wants me to call her, I ask for 5 minutes". Some are really cheeky and expect it would be a regular thing.
Some will even ask for more. Prepare a html text with a greeting and a call button (and chat button) and if you have goodies, include the "buy now" button in that message too and send it to every single costumer who favourites you.
Doesn't have to be the second he favourites you, do it once a day to all the new guys.

I don't know your rate, but let's say it's 1.99, and you can lower it for a few pennies and send a mass mail to all your costumers that for the next 1 or 2 hours your rate is cheaper. I have plenty who call me when i lower my rate for 5 pence.

Different times on different days. Don't do a "Sunday from 7 -9 it's cheaper. they will wait and only call you then.

MsMeta
11-15-2022, 12:03 PM
I just paid to have my listings for one account redesigned - I tweaked each one for the different category it's in. Changed each thumbnail, put up new goodies, etc. I've gotten very little traffic but one guy did call and leave me 3 stars on a 3 minute call with feedback that said "lots of dead air, maybe we didn't connect." The guy basically said nothing to help me along...called the "other" line so I had no clues there, I asked what he was into and he said "whatever," described me and how horny I was and he GRUNTED and when I replied "You like wet p***y?" he just grunted again. I would try to talk to him and it was seriously just one word answers or a grunt (and that was only after a pause - I guess that's the dead air he was talking about). So after a minute I just went with JOI since he was obviously jerking off and after a couple minutes he hung up and then left me bad feedback.

I deleted the new listing since there was only that one call but I still see the feedback and I think others can as well because I've had zero calls on that revamped account in the past two days. So frustrating after all that work. And I just checked my "submissive college girl" account (the one he just left feedback on is a domme) and a year ago he left me 3 stars on that one too! Guess he's not happy with any of my characters.

Kristen_Krystal
11-15-2022, 01:16 PM
It's so annoying when they just expect you to be able to just ' know ' what they want. I get a lot like this & I've found asking them what do they enjoying watching on Porn Hub helps to break the ice & give me an idea of what to talk to them about.

It's not your fault some guys have just got very poor social skills when it comes to talking to women x

HexCode
11-15-2022, 01:57 PM
Don't start it. Organize your lists. And send really , I mean really good costumers who spend some money on you maybe once in a while 1 free minute. Don't make it 5. They will think "Oh, next time she wants me to call her, I ask for 5 minutes". Some are really cheeky and expect it would be a regular thing.
Some will even ask for more. Prepare a html text with a greeting and a call button (and chat button) and if you have goodies, include the "buy now" button in that message too and send it to every single costumer who favourites you.
Doesn't have to be the second he favourites you, do it once a day to all the new guys.

I don't know your rate, but let's say it's 1.99, and you can lower it for a few pennies and send a mass mail to all your costumers that for the next 1 or 2 hours your rate is cheaper. I have plenty who call me when i lower my rate for 5 pence.

Different times on different days. Don't do a "Sunday from 7 -9 it's cheaper. they will wait and only call you then.
Ooooh those are some excellent tips! Thank you!

I'll prepare some html text on my notepad app. And then just copy and paste it whenever I need to send mail to customers. Easy premade mail!

When a customer finishes a call with me, should I send him mail with all the buttons/goodies you mentioned? Or should I wait a bit before hounding him (like a day or something? lol)

DivineMissDeviant
11-15-2022, 03:15 PM
It's so annoying when they just expect you to be able to just ' know ' what they want. I get a lot like this & I've found asking them what do they enjoying watching on Porn Hub helps to break the ice & give me an idea of what to talk to them about.

It's not your fault some guys have just got very poor social skills when it comes to talking to women x

I'm strictly Domme so if they aren't exactly forthcoming with what they want, I ask them to tell me something kinky about themselves.

But if you're more vanilla, you can ask them to tell you about the best sexual experience they've had, the best porn they've watched, their go-to fantasy they like to think about when they jerk off. I find that it always works - opens up the conversation.

Growlerpussy
11-15-2022, 11:28 PM
to @Hexcode : prepare a "feedback" html text to send out after a call you think went really good. I always sugarcoat them by saying how much I looooved the call, his moaning etc and include the feedback button. WhatI tell them too is that I'm totally ok with only 5 stars and that they don't need to write a review.
Most of my feedback comes only from stars and not written feedback. They sometimes don't have time for it or don't want their name popping up on your profile. I had one guys who never left me feedback and he told me, he had a mistress on the site and didn't want her to see that he calls other flirts too.

Might be BS, but you never know

HexCode
11-17-2022, 07:45 PM
to @Hexcode : prepare a "feedback" html text to send out after a call you think went really good. I always sugarcoat them by saying how much I looooved the call, his moaning etc and include the feedback button. WhatI tell them too is that I'm totally ok with only 5 stars and that they don't need to write a review.
Most of my feedback comes only from stars and not written feedback. They sometimes don't have time for it or don't want their name popping up on your profile. I had one guys who never left me feedback and he told me, he had a mistress on the site and didn't want her to see that he calls other flirts too.

Might be BS, but you never know
Forgive me if this is obvious, I don't know myself, but where do you create a button for the feedback page? I can't seem to find the link anywhere.

Also do new callers normally call without viewing your listing? I'm only wondering because I had one caller who asked me what I looked like which was a bit odd because there are pictures all over my listing. Oh shit wait I just realized, maybe this guy had a disability like blindness?

Growlerpussy
11-18-2022, 03:28 AM
Forgive me if this is obvious, I don't know myself, but where do you create a button for the feedback page? I can't seem to find the link anywhere.

Also do new callers normally call without viewing your listing? I'm only wondering because I had one caller who asked me what I looked like which was a bit odd because there are pictures all over my listing. Oh shit wait I just realized, maybe this guy had a disability like blindness?

Here is the link for costumers to leave you feedback: https://www.niteflirt.com/feedbacks

katydiamond123
11-18-2022, 10:18 AM
Thank you!

I tried looking for this answer but, when you block someone they can no longer see your listing right? It says they “can’t send you mail” but I’m presuming they can’t call or find you either, or see and click your listing in search.. Hopefully!

[QUOTE=LavenderSage;3307506]Thank you!
I’m pretty sure they can still see your listing because if you look in your transaction history for CLICKS a guy you blocked shows up as an unqualified click. They can’t charge you if you are bidding because you blocked him. But the fact that his click shows up means he can still see you. Just can’t contact you by phone or by mail. He can also make a new name (new listing) & contact you. I just had this happen.

LavenderSage
11-18-2022, 09:05 PM
[QUOTE=LavenderSage;3307506]Thank you!
I’m pretty sure they can still see your listing because if you look in your transaction history for CLICKS a guy you blocked shows up as an unqualified click. They can’t charge you if you are bidding because you blocked him. But the fact that his click shows up means he can still see you. Just can’t contact you by phone or by mail. He can also make a new name (new listing) & contact you. I just had this happen.

So essentially...they know when they've been blocked? LOL, what a strange system NF has. They should just show that we're infinitely "busy" to the people we block!

I had this "unqualified click" but I thought it was because I turned off my availability. Maybe it was..

Dollybird
11-19-2022, 07:14 AM
I just paid to have my listings for one account redesigned - I tweaked each one for the different category it's in. Changed each thumbnail, put up new goodies, etc. I've gotten very little traffic but one guy did call and leave me 3 stars on a 3 minute call with feedback that said "lots of dead air, maybe we didn't connect." The guy basically said nothing to help me along...called the "other" line so I had no clues there, I asked what he was into and he said "whatever," described me and how horny I was and he GRUNTED and when I replied "You like wet p***y?" he just grunted again. I would try to talk to him and it was seriously just one word answers or a grunt (and that was only after a pause - I guess that's the dead air he was talking about). So after a minute I just went with JOI since he was obviously jerking off and after a couple minutes he hung up and then left me bad feedback.

I deleted the new listing since there was only that one call but I still see the feedback and I think others can as well because I've had zero calls on that revamped account in the past two days. So frustrating after all that work. And I just checked my "submissive college girl" account (the one he just left feedback on is a domme) and a year ago he left me 3 stars on that one too! Guess he's not happy with any of my characters.


Are your listings new? I remember some fuckwit who wrote a very similar. Probably the same twat. I managed to get his feedback removed (when NF used to remove them). Some sad fucks will just do this if listings are new. They get a kick out of it.

Victoria_Gray
11-20-2022, 08:06 PM
to @Hexcode : prepare a "feedback" html text to send out after a call you think went really good. I always sugarcoat them by saying how much I looooved the call, his moaning etc and include the feedback button. WhatI tell them too is that I'm totally ok with only 5 stars and that they don't need to write a review.
Most of my feedback comes only from stars and not written feedback. They sometimes don't have time for it or don't want their name popping up on your profile. I had one guys who never left me feedback and he told me, he had a mistress on the site and didn't want her to see that he calls other flirts too.

Might be BS, but you never know

I have heard that before too. Either it's the same person, or more than one person is using that line? The stars are good still though.

Growlerpussy
11-20-2022, 11:14 PM
I have heard that before too. Either it's the same person, or more than one person is using that line? The stars are good still though.


There are def more than one who uses that line. Some are straight forward and say "I never leave feedback." I say to them "Oh so you don't like or appreciate our calls at all?" (works good on guys who called more than once before)

And 90% of them say "Oh i do, I will leave you a tip". I'll take that for sure

Dollybird
11-21-2022, 02:22 AM
Please tell me flirts outside of the US still have the option of getting daily pay?

HexCode
11-21-2022, 09:07 PM
Please tell me flirts outside of the US still have the option of getting daily pay?
Express Pay option is only possible for non-US flirts if they have a cross border bank account. I opened my cross border account through the Royal Bank of Canada. The NF money gets deposited in there and then I do a foreign transfer from my US bank account into my Canadian bank account. The foreign transfers are instantaneous so I don't have to wait around for it to clear.

I'm not sure which country you reside in, but you could look into banks that offer cross border accounts.

Dollybird
11-21-2022, 09:28 PM
I live in the UK - and used to use Colin as he offered the daily pay service. Not sure if he still does because I haven't cammed in forever.

chocbbwdoll
11-22-2022, 08:16 PM
It's been slow for me so the past few days I've been organizing my audio clips and cross posting them onto different sites. I should have been doing this years ago but it's a great use of my time, methinks

So far I have clips4sale, iWantClips, SinCats and TTM. Are there any others that I should be on?

BTW, if anyone is interested, I have a very open, safe and informative/drama free discord server for PSO. Just DM me for the link

Growlerpussy
11-22-2022, 10:49 PM
It's been slow for me so the past few days I've been organizing my audio clips and cross posting them onto different sites. I should have been doing this years ago but it's a great use of my time, methinks

So far I have clips4sale, iWantClips, SinCats and TTM. Are there any others that I should be on?

BTW, if anyone is interested, I have a very open, safe and informative/drama free discord server for PSO. Just DM me for the link

Manyvids. You need to convert your audios to videos and you can upload them there too. It's a very good side egg for me.

chocbbwdoll
11-23-2022, 11:04 AM
Manyvids. You need to convert your audios to videos and you can upload them there too. It's a very good side egg for me.

Thank you!

Victoria_Gray
11-29-2022, 07:58 PM
There are def more than one who uses that line. Some are straight forward and say "I never leave feedback." I say to them "Oh so you don't like or appreciate our calls at all?" (works good on guys who called more than once before)

And 90% of them say "Oh i do, I will leave you a tip". I'll take that for sure

Tips are always good too.