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sexysusie
08-07-2013, 06:05 AM
Thanks Vivian. It's only a secondary site for me. Not sure how I got number one as I only get 2-3 calls per hour? They are pretty long though. I'm in a totally vanilla category and all my custom has come from NF itself so I doubt I am amble to 'market aggressively', my 2,000+ followers on twitter are next to useless lol. I may leave my prices where they are till I'm at 20+ feedback and my profile's a bit more full then try upping them x
This doesn't help with feedback so much as points, but since you automatically have two points added to every 15 minute call I will occasionally offer a reward for every call 15 minutes or longer.
DonaDiabla
08-07-2013, 03:49 PM
Niteflirt is also a secondary site for me. However, I really have been making tons of money on this site since I create several different characters such as my Asian domme and Ebony co-ed. But I need to boost more sells for Indian character...do guys have any tips on how I could boost sells for this character? Is because there is not too many Indian characters on NF? Tell me you thoughts?
JaneBurgess
08-07-2013, 06:52 PM
Bullshit. You are breaking the rules and don't give a fuck. That is screwing over every HONEST person who doesn't do that. So YES you are screwing people over. Gifting is when you give it away for FREE, not for feedback. The rules also don't say on your profile, they say you CAN'T give anything in exchange for feedback. It's also not dramatic to expect people to follow rules. It's disgusting some of you think you are special and rules don't apply to you.
So sue me. Also, you've mentioned this before. Please stop acting like you're telling me something I don't know about a site I've been on for nearly six years. Technically, you just can't advertise on your listing that you will exchange mins for feedback. Like, you can't write that, specifically, in your listing. What I'm doing is rewarding my customers with gifted minutes, when I see their feedback posted. This is specifically why I advised to only give minutes after you've seen the feedback posted. If he's doing it under my suggestion, I'm gifting him with minutes. Thus, the incentive. I'm not fucking you over anymore than anyone else. Stop being so dramatic.
There are other tactics I use to get guys to leave feedback, but regardless of how they do it, I always reward them with free minutes. I'm a Mistress and Domme, as well. I'll tell guys to leave feedback on my board, as a slave's assignment or as punishment (I'll tell them to write a not of apology or praise to me). It doesn't matter how I get them to do it, I will always incentivize the action with free minutes. But I only do this after I've seen the feedback posted. That's mostly my original point. I wouldn't send these guys minutes in mails where they haven't called me or to lure in new business. I know these guys get spammed with free minutes all the time. They probably have inboxes full of them, to call chicks one after the other and thus pay very little for brief interactions. Withholding minutes based on incentive is the best route to take.
I wouldn't suggest upping your rates past $3.99/min unless you have a really high call-volume or you just don't feel like taking calls but you're willing to pick up the phone. I'm at $5.99/min right now because I don't really need the traffic, per se and I'm just sort of leaving the line on for regs to notice. I don't get more than one call per hour, on a random night, no. But if I'm camming on my chat-site and it's slow (or I'm just not in prvt) and my phone rings, I'll pick it up, for that rate. I do it to kind of condition guys into identifying me as consistently more expensive. It's a strategy that has worked for me. If I raise and lower and raise and lower my prices, guys will just wait it out until I'm cheap again and call then, to bother me. If I randomly sink my prices, once in a blue moon, they won't be shocked when I shoot them back up. Often, I'll just put a 1 in front of the cost ($5.99 becomes $15.99, etc) and leave the listing on. If I get called, FUCK YEA! $15.99/min fuckin' rules! But typically, it just makes me look more affordable when I go back down to $5.99/min to actually take calls. I'm comfortable pricing myself just a bit out of the market on a regular basis. That does mean I have to push my own traffic much harder, though.
$3.99/min isn't that bad, really! If you're getting called enough to be boosted to #1, in your category, good for you! Stay that rate and don't go for less. Sure, if you feel more confident, see what it's like at $4.50/min and just bump it up little by little. That's always what I'll do. Just keep moving the price up 2% or 5% or even 10%, until I see the traffic sort of reflect the cost. I think there will always be guys who are willing to pay more based on how aggressively you're marketing to your particular niche. If you've got a really good wave of publicity and traffic to your listing going, ride it out until you can be where you want.
vivianbear
08-07-2013, 07:55 PM
Bullshit. You are breaking the rules and don't give a fuck. That is screwing over every HONEST person who doesn't do that. So YES you are screwing people over. Gifting is when you give it away for FREE, not for feedback. The rules also don't say on your profile, they say you CAN'T give anything in exchange for feedback. It's also not dramatic to expect people to follow rules. It's disgusting some of you think you are special and rules don't apply to you.
^^
Whatever. I'm not going to argue this point with you since you're obviously personalizing way past the point of reason and your tone is out of control. I'm typically not even the "online-hippy-peacenick"-type but damn... seriously. Take a Xanax. My reg just called at $15.99/min. The biggest thing fucking over MY business these days are all the chicks on the first twelve pages of phone-with-cam charging $1.69 or LESS! How anyone gets feedback is the least of my worries. Remember, ladies, NF is known for the guys who LOVE Financial Domination!!! CHARGE HIGH and drain those wallets! :)
In other NF details: I can't believe you can't even bid a listing anymore for anything over $10/min! Seriously, NF has really lowered the bar in the redesigning of the site. It used to be there were chicks on the front page going for $25/min and $50/min! I'm in the $13-$15 range and I can't even check my placement. Like, I literally have no idea where my listings are, since I have them at this price-point. Super-bummer. :/
sexysusie
08-07-2013, 08:15 PM
@ Jane Out of interest is it ok to give away free minutes if say my cam wasn't working properly and a guy patiently waited on the line paying my cam rate, while I got it sorted? That happened tonight and the poor guy was so drunk and horny he waited ages bless :)
Nikki_Fox
08-07-2013, 08:28 PM
yes ^ - you can do that - i always ask the guys if they liked my show to please rate me / leave feedback - no rule against asking - the rule is for exchanging feedback for whatever
xxtinamariexx
08-08-2013, 09:03 AM
Thanks so much for starting this thread. NF is a backup site for me, I try to work 3 of them at the same time. I have to say, I love it! Since schools been out,camming has been hard for me, but starting to be able to get back online. I have not put in bids for higher placement and when I'm on, im between 1-5 in placement (cam w phone) I also don't get a lot of phone only calls, as my placement for that is ohhhhh in the 100's lol I do have the phone only line linked to my phone w cam page though
I'm thinking of having someone redo my ad for me, as I am not that great with HTML
Do most of you charge clients for your skype ID. that's something I don't do, but thinking that I should. I do have tributes and my wishlist on my page but that's it.. and I never did put those on my phone only line.
sexysusie
08-08-2013, 09:33 AM
The cheeky beggars keep adding me on Skype before I've even spoken to them! It's easy to guess as its the same as my cam name!
What's the point of selling your id? Don't you give it to them anyway once they call your cam listing? And if not, why would you want them bugging you on Skype? :-/
Nikki_Fox
08-08-2013, 09:59 AM
I think the trick is to have a random type ID that would be a challenge for them to guess without paying :)
vivianbear
08-08-2013, 10:07 AM
YES! Sell your ID, if you can. For me, the point of it is that it's a sort of screening process for guys who call you. A guy who buys my IDs has likely read through my listing and has a clear idea of what I offer. He's not a time-waster! He buys the ID, contacts me on IM, and gives notice of the call. Guys who don't buy my IDs typically have no idea what they want, no clue what I'm like (Dom, mostly), and just want to snap at me, get off, and hang up. These same guys will be the ones who can't even listen long enough to take my ID down and add me, anyway!
If a guy calls and doesn't have my ID (I know because I typically write in his Custy log as soon as he's perchased it), I immediately ask him why he didn't buy it. I will calmly tell him that it is for sale, on my page and direct him to the PTV button. He can either push the damn button, buy the ID, and add me as I require or he can pay to hear me repeat my rules until he hangs up. No sexy talk, no cam, nothing until I see that $5 transaction. I don't give a shit, ultimately about the $5, it's the principle of the thing. You'd think this approach would cost me a lot of customers but it hasn't! Stick to your guns and guys will follow your lead.
The only time I'll cut a guy a break and give him my ID, over a call, is if I'm priced relatively high and I'm making more than the $3.50/min that he'd pay just to press the PTV button.
Also, guys aren't really "bothering" me, when they have my IDs. They need to keep in touch, somehow, to check in and let me know they want a call. What I do is "rename" their contact to "NAME/NF-'NF handle'" and stick them in a sorted list of "cam Custy" contacts, on skype. This way, I'm never suprised when "John/NF - PSOWanker" IMs saying "Hey, are you around?" I can just send a line, pass on my link and he'll call when he's ready. You don't have to make small talk when they IM you. Hell, sometimes I just send my link as a response and that's all. They get the hint that I'm obviously not chatting with them for free. It's mostly about having very clear boundaries about your etiquette. Rarely do I have to remind guys that I'm not online to chat and they either need to be calling or asking a clarifying question before a call.
kortneykay
08-08-2013, 10:53 AM
So, I totally don't see my listing on the pages that I'm ranking on. Ugh. Wtf NF?
*DOH!* I had the listing shut off, silly me hehe.
whirlerz
08-08-2013, 11:48 AM
Thanks for this thread..I checked, & my acct. not used in forever, is still open! I need to get on & use it
xxtinamariexx
08-08-2013, 02:53 PM
The cheeky beggars keep adding me on Skype before I've even spoken to them! It's easy to guess as its the same as my cam name!
What's the point of selling your id? Don't you give it to them anyway once they call your cam listing? And if not, why would you want them bugging you on Skype? :-/
I have a lot of guys sending me messages asking for my skype ID before calling to do a show.. I think in a way too vivianbear stated, it sort of weeds out the guys that are adding you to skype just to bug the shit out of you..
vivianbear
08-08-2013, 04:39 PM
I have a lot of guys sending me messages asking for my skype ID before calling to do a show.. I think in a way too vivianbear stated, it sort of weeds out the guys that are adding you to skype just to bug the shit out of you..
I occasionally get messages/mail asking for shows/info/IMs. The best way I deal with them is to respond with a $5 PTV (the cost of my ID) that includes a canned response and, wait for it... my IDs!! LOL! Duh, dude. No matter what, you have to pay me for my IDs. Lots of times, the message goes unopened and I never hear from him again. These guys know how to troll chicks' listings like no other.
sexysusie
08-08-2013, 09:15 PM
I wasn't going to do it yet but I was so busy on my main site tonight I decided to raise my NF rate early. Raised it to $4.20 and did better than any night yet lol
I charge for IDs always. They need to pay for my time, always. Also if they are too cheap to spend 5 for my ID I don't want to be bothered with them.
Anjie2218
08-09-2013, 12:54 PM
Can anyone help me?? I'm trying to put myself on different categories but I don't know how? Please help!!
You have to make a new listing for each category. Go under create listing and select the category, sub category etc.
vivianbear
08-09-2013, 04:17 PM
Sooooo... I'm gonna start a NF group for chicks who want to have more detailed discussions about the site and techniques/tactics for promoting listings and taking calls. I love talking shop about NF and I really don't want threads to get lost in the shuffle, on the board. I'm totes gonna use this thread to post updates on progress and quirky happenings, when I'm taking calls. PM me if you're into it! :)
BlondebombGA
08-09-2013, 05:56 PM
I'm so happy to see this thread and that it is so active! I really don't cam much anymore because I do much better with much more enjoyment on NF. I've been missing talking shop with you ladies...so YAY!
kortneykay
08-09-2013, 06:05 PM
I swear, it's so much better to charge for IDs. Mine are actually cheap ($2.50) I had them free yesterday and of course only timewasters contacted me. I threw up my payment mail and VOILA some nice long paid sessions plus my IDs paid for. Never again will be ok with them just calling. Also, NF is going much better for me today.
vivianbear
08-09-2013, 06:36 PM
^^
Yay, for jumpin' on the PTV-IDs train! I'm glad you see results so fast. You know, even at $5, guys try and complain. I've gotten a few bad reviews about it, a long while back but I started looking at them as a way for guys who actually pay attention to reviews to just be reminded that I'm not kidding about having my IDs ready when they call. In the long run, I'll sacrifice a couple of review points for the reinforcement of my policy.
I'm gonna make some dinner and start getting serious about logging in, for the night. I may even drop my prices by a couple of bucks and bid, just to try to get a higher volume of calls. I just got a brand new iPhone and bluetooth headset so I'm dying to show of my hands-free sexiness, on cam. LoL!
I'm also gonna carve out some time to write a couple of threads for the new group. For those that have joined in, feel free to go to town, in there. :)
dianecallaway
08-09-2013, 07:03 PM
So I just signed up on here tonight a friend of mine told me about this forum over a year ago and I do come and check often but tonight I actually went through the sign up process. I have been on niteflirt for YEARS went through the whole crash and back up. I have noticed since about February of this year a very bad drop in calls. Not only for myself but also my partner that I work with. We are down around 1K each per month and it is just getting worse. My guys are telling me they are sometimes getting triple charged, not being able to connect back, their side has changed making it hard to find their favorites online. Along with all the connection issues everyone has been complaining about for years now. I am not here to bash this company it really has been decent to me/us but I am highly concerned. I have emailed nf asked about all this stuff and their solution was basically start bidding. Now I personally do not believe in bidding I know a lot of people do and that is cool I do not expect people to agree with me. My issues is I work 11 am to 2am every day so I feel with that amount of time I should be given something back from them. I honestly feel that girls that work 40 hours should get something but again that is my opinion. I do all the basic in advertising link dumps, tumblr, (no longer blogger that sucks), communities, twitter etc. I email my guys send out one free min regularly that used to work not so good anymore. It just seems to be getting worse and everyone I talk to is saying the same thing. What are you girls doing how are you advertising etc. I will happily share what I have if you are interested.
adarksideoftown
08-09-2013, 07:31 PM
Bullshit. You are breaking the rules and don't give a fuck. That is screwing over every HONEST person who doesn't do that. So YES you are screwing people over. Gifting is when you give it away for FREE, not for feedback. The rules also don't say on your profile, they say you CAN'T give anything in exchange for feedback. It's also not dramatic to expect people to follow rules. It's disgusting some of you think you are special and rules don't apply to you.
You know what, if you don't want to be "screwed" over for following the rules, stop following the rules. Otherwise, shut up and mind your own business.
Like it or not, the people who break the rules now and then are the people who get ahead. You only have yourself to blame if someone steals your thunder because you couldn't get with the program, beyond the extent to which it is predetermined for you.
vivianbear
08-09-2013, 08:08 PM
You know what, if you don't want to be "screwed" over for following the rules, stop following the rules. Otherwise, shut up and mind your own business.
Like it or not, the people who break the rules now and then are the people who get ahead. You only have yourself to blame if someone steals your thunder because you couldn't get with the program, beyond the extent to which it is predetermined for you.
I can't say I don't disagree with this sentiment. I understand that the majority of site rules are meant to be followed with the intention of creating an "ethical" standard and prevent undercutting, exploitation, etc but some rules are just stupid. I happen to believe the basis of this feedback policy is pointless. Especially now, where there fundamentally is no advantage to having any amount of feedback, in general. The LVS system is completely skewed and arbitrary. I'm not truly experiencing any "advantage" by collecting points and feedback, it's primarily just for vanity, at this point. That and to prove I've been reviewed most recently and my account is still active. The only thing that really boosts LVS, to my knowledge, is clicks and those don't result from points/reviews. Focusing on this one, archaic rule is not just petty but pointless.
I'm not saying "Fuck rules, there's no point! Everyone should offer true-furry, taboo, age-play with cam-only, for $0.99/min. Whatever gets you ahead!" Actually, I don't really care what taboos are offered, I just care that people charge for their services and stick with the format of the platform. Make guys pay you and make them build accounts on the site. Whatever you talk about over the phone is none of my business and I won't know either way. However you can get them to review and promote you isn't my concern. I just want guys to use the NiteFlirt platform to its fullest extent. Keep them on the phone and keep them coming back.
vivianbear
08-09-2013, 09:49 PM
So I just signed up on here tonight a friend of mine told me about this forum over a year ago and I do come and check often but tonight I actually went through the sign up process. I have been on niteflirt for YEARS went through the whole crash and back up. I have noticed since about February of this year a very bad drop in calls. Not only for myself but also my partner that I work with. We are down around 1K each per month and it is just getting worse. My guys are telling me they are sometimes getting triple charged, not being able to connect back, their side has changed making it hard to find their favorites online. Along with all the connection issues everyone has been complaining about for years now. I am not here to bash this company it really has been decent to me/us but I am highly concerned. I have emailed nf asked about all this stuff and their solution was basically start bidding. Now I personally do not believe in bidding I know a lot of people do and that is cool I do not expect people to agree with me. My issues is I work 11 am to 2am every day so I feel with that amount of time I should be given something back from them. I honestly feel that girls that work 40 hours should get something but again that is my opinion. I do all the basic in advertising link dumps, tumblr, (no longer blogger that sucks), communities, twitter etc. I email my guys send out one free min regularly that used to work not so good anymore. It just seems to be getting worse and everyone I talk to is saying the same thing. What are you girls doing how are you advertising etc. I will happily share what I have if you are interested.
I totally feel you in how frustrating NF can be, technically, for the past four years. It sucks! Things were only really bad for me, immediately after the crash. On the whole, I didn't work NF nearly that entire winter. I found an alternate site and just gave it a rest until the worst of it cooled off. I transferred some of my best custies to other sites and back again when things got a bit more reasonable.
One thing I'm glad of is I've never experienced as many of the technical glitches as other Flirts nor have I had any problems with receiving my payments. I'm also based in the US, though so that may be a contributing factor. I'm not sure where you and you partner are located. I've actually seen my custies' accts (through screen-grabs and other means) so I'm not quite sure what you mean by it being different. It's not too terribly different to navigate than it's always been. I've never had a custy complain about being over-charged to that extent. Have you had any of this confirmed by PlayFair?
I get that your strategy isn't to bid, which is totally fine. I think bidding now (versus four years ago) is severely flawed and I'm jaded of it, too, although I'll still invest in it occasionally. Often, I just let my listings sit open at higher rates and hope the LVS goes up a few notches through PTV sales. Results vary but such is life on NF, post-'09. I take the bad with the not-great-but-not-terrible. I don't know if I'd say it's getting "worse" but if it's getting better, it's happening at a damn snail's pace.
Your hours sound intense! I'm not quite sure what you mean about NF "giving something back" to the girls who work 40-hours or more? Do you mean in terms of placement or that they should advertise? As ideal as that may sound, it's entirely unrealistic. NF is practically a shadow company. The agreement is (and always seems to have been) that they provide the platform for billing and we drive our own traffic. In exchange, they pretty much stay out of the operator's way, in terms of how she wants to drive her presentation. For 70% and to be left completely alone to manage my customers the way I see fit, I'll take that deal.
I advertise in a variety of ways (Twitter mostly) and I still have lots of ideas to experiment with. I'm hoping to make a more organized plan within the NF group we've got going. I really want to try targeting the new affiliates program and truly try to exploit that. Are you taking advantage of that? Do you and your partner convert callers often?
Feel free to PM me if you want to go back and forth. I'm not so protective of details as much as I don't want too much information to get lost in one general thread. Good luck! :)
dianecallaway
08-09-2013, 10:09 PM
I totally feel you in how frustrating NF can be, technically, for the past four years. It sucks! Things were only really bad for me, immediately after the crash. On the whole, I didn't work NF nearly that entire winter. I found an alternate site and just gave it a rest until the worst of it cooled off. I transferred some of my best custies to other sites and back again when things got a bit more reasonable.
One thing I'm glad of is I've never experienced as many of the technical glitches as other Flirts nor have I had any problems with receiving my payments. I'm also based in the US, though so that may be a contributing factor. I'm not sure where you and you partner are located. I've actually seen my custies' accts (through screen-grabs and other means) so I'm not quite sure what you mean by it being different. It's not too terribly different to navigate than it's always been. I've never had a custy complain about being over-charged to that extent. Have you had any of this confirmed by PlayFair?
I get that your strategy isn't to bid, which is totally fine. I think bidding now (versus four years ago) is severely flawed and I'm jaded of it, too, although I'll still invest in it occasionally. Often, I just let my listings sit open at higher rates and hope the LVS goes up a few notches through PTV sales. Results vary but such is life on NF, post-'09. I take the bad with the not-great-but-not-terrible. I don't know if I'd say it's getting "worse" but if it's getting better, it's happening at a damn snail's pace.
Your hours sound intense! I'm not quite sure what you mean about NF "giving something back" to the girls who work 40-hours or more? Do you mean in terms of placement or that they should advertise? As ideal as that may sound, it's entirely unrealistic. NF is practically a shadow company. The agreement is (and always seems to have been) that they provide the platform for billing and we drive our own traffic. In exchange, they pretty much stay out of the operator's way, in terms of how she wants to drive her presentation. For 70% and to be left completely alone to manage my customers the way I see fit, I'll take that deal.
I advertise in a variety of ways (Twitter mostly) and I still have lots of ideas to experiment with. I'm hoping to make a more organized plan within the NF group we've got going. I really want to try targeting the new affiliates program and truly try to exploit that. Are you taking advantage of that? Do you and your partner convert callers often?
Feel free to PM me if you want to go back and forth. I'm not so protective of details as much as I don't want too much information to get lost in one general thread. Good luck! :)
As far as giving back I meant that as in placement only not advertisement. Yes Niteflirt confirmed there were issues but would not give specifics on the amounts that were happening due to customer confidentiality (I did not ask for specifics but they never offered either). We use the affiliate program and have made some money off it. I am revamping a web site of ours over the next few weeks and will see if we see an improvement from that. My problem has been linking back I can not to niteflirt and this other site was not set up for that but we are fixing that problem. Advertising was never really an issue until around Feb. that is when "new" customers dropped off a lot. Now what we get we bring in and to be honest we were blind sided with that so we are behind the eight ball. We do convert but not like we should because we have not been doing it right. Not sure what right is still working on that but I can tell you we are not doing it correctly now. LOL Could you tell me more about this Niteflirt group you guys have how it works etc. I do not mind working I am fine with working I just currently feel like I am spinning my wheels and I am not cool with that. I am not protective on details at all I will happily share all my lists that I have cuz I feel all of us advertising helps each and every one of us.
dianecallaway
08-09-2013, 10:10 PM
I totally feel you in how frustrating NF can be, technically, for the past four years. It sucks! Things were only really bad for me, immediately after the crash. On the whole, I didn't work NF nearly that entire winter. I found an alternate site and just gave it a rest until the worst of it cooled off. I transferred some of my best custies to other sites and back again when things got a bit more reasonable.
One thing I'm glad of is I've never experienced as many of the technical glitches as other Flirts nor have I had any problems with receiving my payments. I'm also based in the US, though so that may be a contributing factor. I'm not sure where you and you partner are located. I've actually seen my custies' accts (through screen-grabs and other means) so I'm not quite sure what you mean by it being different. It's not too terribly different to navigate than it's always been. I've never had a custy complain about being over-charged to that extent. Have you had any of this confirmed by PlayFair?
I get that your strategy isn't to bid, which is totally fine. I think bidding now (versus four years ago) is severely flawed and I'm jaded of it, too, although I'll still invest in it occasionally. Often, I just let my listings sit open at higher rates and hope the LVS goes up a few notches through PTV sales. Results vary but such is life on NF, post-'09. I take the bad with the not-great-but-not-terrible. I don't know if I'd say it's getting "worse" but if it's getting better, it's happening at a damn snail's pace.
Your hours sound intense! I'm not quite sure what you mean about NF "giving something back" to the girls who work 40-hours or more? Do you mean in terms of placement or that they should advertise? As ideal as that may sound, it's entirely unrealistic. NF is practically a shadow company. The agreement is (and always seems to have been) that they provide the platform for billing and we drive our own traffic. In exchange, they pretty much stay out of the operator's way, in terms of how she wants to drive her presentation. For 70% and to be left completely alone to manage my customers the way I see fit, I'll take that deal.
I advertise in a variety of ways (Twitter mostly) and I still have lots of ideas to experiment with. I'm hoping to make a more organized plan within the NF group we've got going. I really want to try targeting the new affiliates program and truly try to exploit that. Are you taking advantage of that? Do you and your partner convert callers often?
Feel free to PM me if you want to go back and forth. I'm not so protective of details as much as I don't want too much information to get lost in one general thread. Good luck! :)
As far as giving back I meant that as in placement only not advertisement. Yes Niteflirt confirmed there were issues but would not give specifics on the amounts that were happening due to customer confidentiality (I did not ask for specifics but they never offered either). We use the affiliate program and have made some money off it. I am revamping a web site of ours over the next few weeks and will see if we see an improvement from that. My problem has been linking back I can not to niteflirt and this other site was not set up for that but we are fixing that problem. Advertising was never really an issue until around Feb. that is when "new" customers dropped off a lot. Now what we get we bring in and to be honest we were blind sided with that so we are behind the eight ball. We do convert but not like we should because we have not been doing it right. Not sure what right is still working on that but I can tell you we are not doing it correctly now. LOL Could you tell me more about this Niteflirt group you guys have how it works etc. I do not mind working I am fine with working I just currently feel like I am spinning my wheels and I am not cool with that. I am not protective on details at all I will happily share all my lists that I have cuz I feel all of us advertising helps each and every one of us.
vivianbear
08-10-2013, 01:18 AM
NF Pet Peeve #75: I hate when guys contact me on skype and yet don't add me, as a contact! Just press 'accept' so you're fully in my contacts, dude! You're just going to lose the contact when you log off and we'll have to repeat this process, again. Morons. At least I have the sense enough to list them, regardless.
Also on my Shit List: Guys who call saying they want a whole elaborate fantasy and just as I get into it, they blow their load. Don't call with this role like you're a huge stud who's going to ravage me and yet you can only last about 2 1/2 minutes into me taking my top off. I love big tits, too but please, have some self-control. I'm just going to use that as ammunition against you, in your next call.
This is exactly why A) I'm expensive. If I'm going to pick up for him to be that easily impressed, I want something for it. And B ) I'm really talkative. As long as I keep talking, he'll stay distracted. As long as he's distracted, the clock keeps ticking. Oh well, just a touch under $100 in under 20 mins. Could be worse, I guess. Makes me rethink lowering my rates (again).
vivianbear
08-11-2013, 07:34 PM
TODAY: $1,108 in calls and Tributes, my take, by the end of the day. All but $14 of it was from my long-time Human Wallet. The $20 tip ($14) came from a sweet reg who's deployed but randomly presses my $20 'TIP' button every so often. It's nice to know he's thinking of me. :) Don't forget to have a variety of Tip/Tribute buttons posted on your profile! These guys click-and-buy almost on command. Don't be shy!
I'm gonna have a bite to eat and relax. It's been a long afternoon. I really needed this, as I've splurged on new glasses and a phone, this summer. I really wanted to pay that off before school starts and it looks like that's gonna happen, no sweat. I still have the rest of the month to work the phones (and my chat site). My next goal is to push past $2K before the pay period ends! I love NF. :)
dianecallaway
08-11-2013, 08:14 PM
YOu go girl those days are AWESOME when they happen
You go Vivian. Four for you Vivian. :) I love big pay days.
kikiwiki
08-12-2013, 03:46 PM
I think I have bad NF karma. I'm almost always getting calls when I'm in the middle of something serious like going to the bathroom! UGh!
jackandcoke
08-12-2013, 06:06 PM
Hey everyone! My partner and I are just getting started on NiteFlirt, we have created a healthy number of listings but they are pending approval. Anyway, I had a few questions...I hope I'm not bothering anyone, but I haven't seen the answers to this anywhere...
1) What is a PTV? How are you using them to charge for IDs? And when you say charging for IDs, do you mean your skype name?
2) How do you make buttons for tips and tributes in your profile? Is there a difference between the two?
Thanks so much, guys...and if I am being an idiot and just didn't google hard enough, let me know and I will try again!
adarksideoftown
08-12-2013, 06:12 PM
TODAY: $1,108 in calls and Tributes, my take, by the end of the day. All but $14 of it was from my long-time Human Wallet. The $20 tip ($14) came from a sweet reg who's deployed but randomly presses my $20 'TIP' button every so often. It's nice to know he's thinking of me. :) Don't forget to have a variety of Tip/Tribute buttons posted on your profile! These guys click-and-buy almost on command. Don't be shy!
I'm gonna have a bite to eat and relax. It's been a long afternoon. I really needed this, as I've splurged on new glasses and a phone, this summer. I really wanted to pay that off before school starts and it looks like that's gonna happen, no sweat. I still have the rest of the month to work the phones (and my chat site). My next goal is to push past $2K before the pay period ends! I love NF. :)
You really are an inspiration, Vivian.
sexysusie
08-12-2013, 07:28 PM
Jack PTV is a pay to view transaction sent via email to the customer. If you go to "my account" you'll see an option at the bottom to "sell content". There you can set up your sales and it gives you the HTML to put a buy now button for it on your page.
You can sell pictures, your id, videos etc, although I haven't figured out videos yet.
Just look around the site and make yourself familiar with the many, many options :)
jackandcoke
08-12-2013, 08:13 PM
Oh, thank you! I will keep looking around the site. Hopefully my listings will go live soon!
vivianbear
08-13-2013, 04:20 AM
Fuck, I was on the phone for 162 minutes, straight. My ear hurts. I'm #25, in 'Find Women' and at the top of my category on everything else, though! Woooo! That was a serious LVS-score. I wonder if it'll hold out, until tomorrow, if I bump my rates up to $10.99/$12.99/min? Damn, I hope so. Dropping my prices and bidding was definitely a good call, tonight.
Veronica22
08-13-2013, 10:47 AM
I set up my webpage to be a new NF girl but I need help my with mulitple listings can anyone help me?
justanothercamgirl
08-13-2013, 12:17 PM
What kind of help are you looking for?
jackandcoke
08-13-2013, 03:56 PM
Phew! Six hours later and my profiles are pretty much set up! Good enough for now, anyway! Thank you for your help, ladies. To anyone else who needs to know how to set things up, I highly recommend google, niteflirt "Help", and the niteflirt forums. I ended up downloading free graphic software to make buttons and googling "html tags" a LOT, but eventually I got there.
Now...I just have to start making money!
BlasianBytch
08-13-2013, 04:14 PM
My profile is so ugly :< I've been trying to make a theme and buttons for myself but photoshop keeps crashing on my old ass Macbook.
This week has been pretty shit for me so far. spent 20 dollars and got ONE seven minute call all day.
Going to cry in the corner now.
Anjie2218
08-14-2013, 10:59 AM
PM me if you haven't gotten the answers yet and I will tell you.
Anjie2218
08-14-2013, 11:05 AM
I've spent a total of $23 bucks and no calls but thanks to @vivianbear we have an NF group and they give me pointers and a boost. If I'm not there yet I will get there. All of those ladies are very positive and AMAZING!
vivianbear
08-15-2013, 04:52 AM
Period-time, nooooooo! I can't interact with guys, in this condition. I have to take a break until at least Monday. A part of me does wish we could exploit period/blood-play/menstrual fetish (all against TOS) because I could tell guys the most foul things about my vagina, right now. That's the only way I'd be willing to take calls. I should make PTVs, in the meantime. :P
chloemay
08-15-2013, 05:37 AM
A part of me does wish we could exploit period/blood-play/menstrual fetish (all against TOS) because I could tell guys the most foul things about my vagina, right now. That's the only way I'd be willing to take calls. I should make PTVs, in the meantime. :P
Wouldn't that be great? I would love that. Honestly it's offensive that a normal thing for women to go through every month is the biggest taboo ever, on any site I've been on so far.
bigbootyjudy1
08-15-2013, 01:21 PM
OMG!!!!! Just got my first call today .I was super nervous.He talked me down to bring my price from 3.99 to 1.99 .I was like ok but no webcam included.
Also guess what? he claims to be A MONEY SLAVE!!!! He claims hes going to spoil me and all this crazy stuff, but all i kept thinking about was why did i have to bring down my ratesIf your into spoiling me.Oh well
Long story short #easy money #i loved it#hope to get more calls#way better than camming :)
bigbootyjudy1
08-15-2013, 01:40 PM
I guess he is a money slave he just sent $30 tribute.but i guess i have to skype with him for a little bit :( oh well :) Happy dance
vivianbear
08-15-2013, 04:30 PM
^^
NOOOOOOOOOOO.... DON'T EVER LET ANYONE TALK DOWN YOUR PRICES ON NF!! I can't tell you this, enough! Especially some "Money Slave". Pro-tip: Make him open a PPV for $50 (with a note just saying "You OWE me, Bitch") and bump yourself back up to $3.99+/min for phone W/CAM, if that's what you want to make! These callers know EVERY trick in the book to weasel their way back and forth, with Flirts. Some of them are bigger hustlers than we are! They work every angle to scam Flirts into lowering prices per minute, offering cam-only on skype, pretending to be "paypigs" or "money slaves". A real paypig would NEVER ask you to lower your prices. If anything they'll tell you to charge them more! Please don't waiver from your original standards for these guys. I can't stress that enough.