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justanothercamgirl
01-08-2017, 01:17 PM
Does anyone utilize their affiliate program, and if so have you found it worth it? I bought a new domain that I am thinking of using it to promote niteflirt girls, but I am wondering if it is worth it. Also is there a way to direct link to certain profiles with your affiliate link?

In my limited experience with it I've found it to be one of the worse affiliate programs I've ever encountered but YMMV, of course.

Girly_Girl
01-12-2017, 08:41 PM
Curious if anyone does shows for guys after they left you a negative feedback? I have a guy that RATED me a 1 just because skype was messing up that day and he also left me a negative feedback saying "Phone died than bad video signal freezing not good at all". When actually what really happened is I missed his call cause my cordless phone was dead, so I switched to my cell and told him to try again but the way he worded it, it sounds like we were on the phone when it happened but we were not. NOW he is wanting to do a show with me again but I am kind of scared to in case he does it again. I called him out on it and told him that I wasn't sure if I wanted to do another show with him since he left me bad feedback especially for something that I didn't do. He apologized and said he wouldn't leave be a bad feedback again but idk if I trust him or not. I am thinking about just blocking him. Opinions

Marina Starr
01-12-2017, 08:55 PM
I just block guys like that. I don't cater to quick to rate you badly assholes.


Curious if anyone does shows for guys after they left you a negative feedback? I have a guy that RATED me a 1 just because skype was messing up that day and he also left me a negative feedback saying "Phone died than bad video signal freezing not good at all". When actually what really happened is I missed his call cause my cordless phone was dead, so I switched to my cell and told him to try again but the way he worded it, it sounds like we were on the phone when it happened but we were not. NOW he is wanting to do a show with me again but I am kind of scared to in case he does it again. I called him out on it and told him that I wasn't sure if I wanted to do another show with him since he left me bad feedback especially for something that I didn't do. He apologized and said he wouldn't leave be a bad feedback again but idk if I trust him or not. I am thinking about just blocking him. Opinions

sarahlove
01-13-2017, 10:42 AM
Curious if anyone does shows for guys after they left you a negative feedback? I have a guy that RATED me a 1 just because skype was messing up that day and he also left me a negative feedback saying "Phone died than bad video signal freezing not good at all". When actually what really happened is I missed his call cause my cordless phone was dead, so I switched to my cell and told him to try again but the way he worded it, it sounds like we were on the phone when it happened but we were not. NOW he is wanting to do a show with me again but I am kind of scared to in case he does it again. I called him out on it and told him that I wasn't sure if I wanted to do another show with him since he left me bad feedback especially for something that I didn't do. He apologized and said he wouldn't leave be a bad feedback again but idk if I trust him or not. I am thinking about just blocking him. Opinions

My rule is if you leave me bad feedback you get blocked. I figure why risk it. If you gave me bad feedback once you are a complainer.

Phoenixx
01-13-2017, 07:57 PM
I'm a newbie getting ready to set up a few characters. Forgive me if it's already been asked, bt where's a good place to get content, photos, videos. Obviously I want many poses from the same model but I haven't a clue where to look. I need to keep my identity lowkey because kids and a professional career. TIA. PS: I've learned so much from this thread!

Phoenixx

chloemay
01-14-2017, 05:29 AM
Curious if anyone does shows for guys after they left you a negative feedback? I have a guy that RATED me a 1 just because skype was messing up that day and he also left me a negative feedback saying "Phone died than bad video signal freezing not good at all". When actually what really happened is I missed his call cause my cordless phone was dead, so I switched to my cell and told him to try again but the way he worded it, it sounds like we were on the phone when it happened but we were not. NOW he is wanting to do a show with me again but I am kind of scared to in case he does it again. I called him out on it and told him that I wasn't sure if I wanted to do another show with him since he left me bad feedback especially for something that I didn't do. He apologized and said he wouldn't leave be a bad feedback again but idk if I trust him or not. I am thinking about just blocking him. Opinions


This would depend on the amount of money I make from the customer as well as the amount of feedback i already have on the listing. For example, a guy bought my Skype ID and contacted me via Skype to ask about a show. It was not something I wanted to do, so I was honest about that. Since he spent $ on my Skype ID, he was allowed to leave feedback and it was terrible. Actually it was so absurd that it makes me laugh, and by now it has been pushed pages back.

I did block him, but didn't bother to complain about the feedback as I have tons of excellent feedback on that listing. If it was a new listing and the bad feedback affected my 5 star rating, then I would have deleted the whole thing and made a replacement one.

There is a different customer who calls and leaves 4 stars. Annoying, but he spends and doesn't do it often enough to negatively affect the listing he calls on so he isn't blocked.

sarahlove
01-14-2017, 11:01 AM
I'm a newbie getting ready to set up a few characters. Forgive me if it's already been asked, bt where's a good place to get content, photos, videos. Obviously I want many poses from the same model but I haven't a clue where to look. I need to keep my identity lowkey because kids and a professional career. TIA. PS: I've learned so much from this thread!

Phoenixx

I have information that I give out but I don't like to post it in the forum since this is a public forum and guys read it and I don't want to affect the livelyhood of the other people who purchase content. If you would like to send me a message I can give you the list. Good luck!

JaceyLynn
01-15-2017, 12:08 PM
I am Xposting this because I want to know about opinions for both sites. Thanks.

Hi guys, I am wondering if its better to spend time growing one or two main personas or have a whole bunch. Sometimes I think less is more, but I also feel more girls = more money, because of content sales and such. Do any of you ladies just have personas that just sell content and no phone?

scarletl
01-16-2017, 11:14 AM
What the hell is with NF?

I used to be on there and come back recently and 5 days ago I edited my listings and they still haven't approved them 5 days later, ignoring all my contact aswell.
I also contacted them because I can't seem to upload any videos, it says the file is corrupt and I have seen fair few other ladies say this is happening to them since last Wednesday and they just ignored it and ain't bothered to fix it....they seem super negligent ?

scarletl
01-17-2017, 06:43 AM
Does anyone know who to fix this issue?
Everytime I upload a mp4 video for goodie bags it says the file is corrupt ad won't upload?

I tried asking NF a week ago but they just ignore me

DonaDiabla
01-17-2017, 06:49 AM
Did you send them a tweet on Twitter? Usually, they get back in touch with you right way after getting your tweet :)


Does anyone know who to fix this issue?
Everytime I upload a mp4 video for goodie bags it says the file is corrupt ad won't upload?

I tried asking NF a week ago but they just ignore me

devildolly
01-20-2017, 10:56 AM
Hi- silly newblet question time! Can someone please explain more how Phone with cam on Nf works? You have to use something external to cam like skype so the customer calls you and you get paid by the minute for the call and while you are on the phone you get on skype at the same time? If so do you use your skype number for that listing or its not necessary ( like I have a prepaid cell phone/number I just use for customer calls). I have never cammed on Skype before either so sorry if this question sounds retarded!

scarletl
01-20-2017, 06:23 PM
Well it appears NF are still living the the dark ages. Apparently my video files are corrupt because it's not the original file, they suggest I upload my original unedited clips baring all my mistakes, huffs and puffs, fallings over and any other daft mistake I make in my videos pre edit lol.

So my question is, do you ladies make most of your money via calls or selling your videos? Anyone making $1000+ a month without selling clips at all?

Kristen_Krystal
01-20-2017, 06:47 PM
Hi- silly newblet question time! Can someone please explain more how Phone with cam on Nf works? You have to use something external to cam like skype so the customer calls you and you get paid by the minute for the call and while you are on the phone you get on skype at the same time? If so do you use your skype number for that listing or its not necessary ( like I have a prepaid cell phone/number I just use for customer calls). I have never cammed on Skype before either so sorry if this question sounds retarded!

Yes I think most use Skype. You need to set up a phone & cam separate profile & you can also sell your Skype ID (Too deter time wasters). You need to make sure the phone chat price reflects that you're doing a cam show & watch out for if the client should end the phone call without you noticing or you'll end up doing the Skype show for free. x

PSOcodemonkey
01-21-2017, 10:59 AM
So my question is, do you ladies make most of your money via calls or selling your videos? Anyone making $1000+ a month without selling clips at all?

Yes, $1,000+ a month is doable just doing calls and selling no content/videos/clips/etc. It just depends on how much you want to be available, and how much passive income you want/need and how you price. It also depends on how great of a marketer you are, and how good you are with calls. No right answer as to the best way to do it, just depends on the PSO. Also, you need to get/keep repeat callers for $1,000+ a month on NF, so don't take customers for granted. If you find you are not getting a lot of repeat callers, then evaluate things again.

sweetandnaughty
01-21-2017, 01:35 PM
I'm finally getting on the PSO train and love it. My question about Niteflirt is:
I understand and know that on NF you CAN NOT say or post pictures about anything about incest, family/step, roleplay in your advertised listing on the website.

HOWEVER, my question if, if someone calls you up and wants to do a MOM/son, incest, underage, rape...etc roleplay over the phone or on cam, IS THAT ALLOWED? OR, is that roleplay even on the phone in fantasy prohibited? It's hard to understand. I read the NF rules for the listings but they don't say what you can and can't do while on the phone or cam with the customer.
That's where I get confused.
Any help or feedback is appreciated. :O
THANKS!

EricaErotica
01-21-2017, 01:54 PM
Niteflirt is very strict about the topics you CANNOT talk about. Please read what I have posted below very carefully. It is taken directly from Niteflirt. You CANNOT talk about any of the following:


What am I not allowed to talk about or provide to my customers?

*Personal contact information

*Prohibited content (See List Below For Specifics)

*Anything about children

*Links to competitive services

*Free minute promotions

*Contests

*Donations

*Sale of personal items

*Sale of bulk minutes, cam-only, or text-only


Prohibited Content Includes The Following:

*Child Pornography or any depiction of a child. Discussions about your kids, what you were like before you were 18, or kids in general is not allowed. Wish lists with children's items and images of children are also not allowed. If a photo includes a minor under the age of 18, it is not permitted on NiteFlirt.

*Bestiality, including images of animals

*Rape Sex and Rape Fantasies

*Penetration with all four limbs bound

*Incest and Incest Fantasies including "step" relations and "Daddy," "Mommy," "Grandmother," "Aunt," or any fantasy about a family member. Even a third cousin twice removed. No family relations, period. You may use terms like Grandma, Mother, or the like if, and only if, you are describing your character. While you may use the term MILF or GILF no other terms for "Mother", "Daddy", "Grandmother" or other family members are allowed in your Member Name.

*Underage Role-Play, including all types of Age Play.

*Toilet, Scat, Urination, Enemas, Roman Showers and Menstrual content, or anything related or that could be construed as one of these topics.

*ABDL (Adult Baby Diaper Lovers), Adult Babies

*Crushing of animals including insects.

*Fisting

*Racial slurs

*Drugs including the use of illegal drugs, medical marijuana, 420 culture, or images of drugs



Please read the following links:

https://support.niteflirt.com/hc/en-us/articles/212830688-Play-Fair-Basics#Prohibited Content

https://www.niteflirt.com/help/speaker_rules

sweetandnaughty
01-21-2017, 02:03 PM
I remember reading that list. I guess I got it into my head that the incest couldn't be created in the listing but was ok to talk about on the phone. Thanks!!

scarletl
01-21-2017, 03:38 PM
Yes, $1,000+ a month is doable just doing calls and selling no content/videos/clips/etc. It just depends on how much you want to be available, and how much passive income you want/need and how you price. It also depends on how great of a marketer you are, and how good you are with calls. No right answer as to the best way to do it, just depends on the PSO. Also, you need to get/keep repeat callers for $1,000+ a month on NF, so don't take customers for granted. If you find you are not getting a lot of repeat callers, then evaluate things again.

Thank you for your advice x

foxirox
01-21-2017, 04:07 PM
Quick question - Can you use one template for more than one category?

Loreen
01-21-2017, 04:38 PM
Quick question - Can you use one template for more than one category?

Yes. I don't know from direct experience but I have clients that use the same one for more listings and categories.
Why wouldn't it work?

Loreen
01-21-2017, 04:39 PM
Someone just gave me a bad review just because skype was freezing on me when they called.....I mean wtf. It wasn't my fault.

If that's what he wrote in the review I don't think the other customers would care that much :)

Loreen
01-21-2017, 04:45 PM
I'm a newbie getting ready to set up a few characters. Forgive me if it's already been asked, bt where's a good place to get content, photos, videos. Obviously I want many poses from the same model but I haven't a clue where to look. I need to keep my identity lowkey because kids and a professional career. TIA. PS: I've learned so much from this thread!

I know many that use mainstream stock photos. For example they pick a model like this one:
link removed

and then, from the same photographer they find 3-4-10 more photos with the same model. They have sexy / nudity photos as well :)

Loreen
01-21-2017, 04:50 PM
Or if you have any creators who charge reasonable rates for designing and installing templates then again, send me a message cos i'd like to know that too.

My templates are $65 (design + HTML coding), not sure if you consider this reasonable or not :) But my suggestion would be to invest in a design that allows you to easily change the photos and text. After that, you'll have a starting point to refresh it for years :)

Anyway, if your page looks clean, you have nice photos and attractive text.. I don't think customers care that much about a high-end looking design.

foxirox
01-21-2017, 04:56 PM
Hi Loreen

Going to send you a PM

sarabimaraj
01-21-2017, 05:00 PM
I wouldn't suggest giving the website where you get photos from in a public forum. I know some places, just send me a PM.

Loreen
01-21-2017, 05:03 PM
I wouldn't suggest giving the website where you get photos from in a public forum. I know some places, just send me a PM.

It was a suggestion with one of the biggest stock sites on the web.
But I can edit it out, if necessary :)

EricaErotica
01-21-2017, 05:18 PM
It was a suggestion with one of the biggest stock sites on the web.
But I can edit it out, if necessary :)

Please remove your link to the stock image. It is very important to be discreet in this industry. Any performer who needs information on where to get content should use Google to locate sites that sell legal adult content that complies with US 2257. One can also send PMs to other performers for information on reputable sites. PLEASE stop posting sensitive information so openly on a public forum. Even though we are in the adult industry we must always remember to conduct ourselves with the highest degree of discretion and professionalism.

EricaErotica
01-21-2017, 05:37 PM
Loreen,

You are also encouraging the use of stock images. Most people use stock images incorrectly. Stock images are often licensed for personal use only. To use that image or any other stock image on a Niteflirt listing you would need to obtain a commercial license. Most operators do not know this. Even stock images obtained from free stock image sites need to be accompanied by the proper license in order to be used on a Niteflirt listing which would be deemed a form of commercial use. Do not encourage operators to use content that they might be prohibited from using. It hurts our industry. It can also land an operator in big trouble without her knowing.

DonaDiabla
01-21-2017, 06:14 PM
Seriously, this is the wrong information for providers. First of all, do any of these stock photos keep in line with the US 2257 law? Because Niteflirt is a US company and they are governed by Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act of 1988, which states the content you use needs proof that everyone is 18 and over in them. All adult companies must follow the 2257 law after the Traci Lords underage incident.
We all know that stock photo companies do not actively enforced this requirement due to these companies being non-adult and for personal use. Secondly, if someone are going to use stock photos then they need commercial license to use them on Niteflirt. Third, that photographer that you suggested does not have an active website and you can not asked him for model releases and proof his models are 18. So, it is best for everyone to go on GFY.com marketing and asked for the content they need :)


I know many that use mainstream stock photos. For example they pick a model like this one:


and then, from the same photographer they find 3-4-10 more photos with the same model. They have sexy / nudity photos as well :)

EricaErotica
01-21-2017, 06:36 PM
Hi Dona,

Thank you for making such excellent points. Unfortunately, most people do not understand the stock image industry. They do not understand that these images often cannot be used in the adult industry. To get the proper information/documentation to use these images in the adult industry is often impossible. It is best to spend the money and just use legal adult content that complies with US 2257.

Loreen
01-22-2017, 01:41 AM
So, it is best for everyone to go on GFY.com marketing and asked for the content they need :)

This is good advice :)
The link has been removed before I had the chance to, so all fine. Of course I didn't refuse to change my post, I even asked if I should.

EricaErotica
01-22-2017, 02:20 AM
Loreen,

You did not remove the link to the image. You were asked politely by 3 members (myself included) to remove the link. You refused. Thank goodness that PhatGirlDynomite is a very proactive and professional moderator. She removed the link.

EricaErotica
01-22-2017, 02:43 AM
Also stock image sites do not give you any documentation confirming a model's age or any documentation confirming a model's consent to being photographed. You would need to obtain that from the actual photographer and not the stock image site.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-22-2017, 08:26 AM
Yes please move along guys.

fionafresher
01-22-2017, 11:40 PM
I'm curious about how much you ladies budget for your featured listing bids, and where you usually want your listing to be

Spemily
01-23-2017, 07:34 AM
I used to set the budget around $10 and just let the bid ride for as long as it could. If it's affordable, I bid to be in the top 12. If it's a very busy category, like Mistresses, I'll bid to be in the top 50. These days, I usually set the budget to ten times whatever the bid amount is. (So, if I'm bidding $0.30, I set the budget to $3.00). I'm finding bidding way less effective for me these days, so I just test it out once in a while to see if it brings in a few calls. Most of the time, I just end up spending the money for nothing.

PSOcodemonkey
01-23-2017, 10:28 PM
I'm curious about how much you ladies budget for your featured listing bids, and where you usually want your listing to be

Don't assume all successful flirts bid... Or bid more than every now and then.

For some flirts, bidding a ton works. For others, not bidding at all works. For others, bidding every now and again works. You need to find what works for you. Just make sure you don't use the "No Expiration" option for bidding at first. Most flirts will not tell you exactly what they budget and where their best listing(s) are, not so much because they are trying to guard a secret, but because results will vary so much depending on the character, how good of a marketer overall you are, your listing, etc. I do not bid all my characters, and some that don't get bid do well. It just all depends...

gorgeousbbw
01-24-2017, 02:34 AM
Hi Ladies, I have been focusing heavily on niteflirt lately and i have come across a customer who in the last 2 days has spent $1400 in tributes to me and $1,998 in amazon gift cards. He initially called my financial domination line and i ran with it but now i am starting to wonder if this is what financial domination guys are like. I mean this guy is sending me so much so soon that i can't help but wonder if he is fraud. But how can i tell? So far all of the gift cards are going through ok, but the tribute payments wont hit my bank until a few more days. If it's legit this is amazing as i have never made this much so soon over the phone, however i am worried on how he is obtaining the money and if i will get into trouble somehow with niteflirt or even amazon. his gift cards have been sent in the following amounts....$555, $666, $777 this is one of the reasons i was concerned and i redeemed them immediately and ordered all kinds of stuff laptop, camera, upgraded all my equipment lol but i am concerned. Anyone ever have a customer like this? what do we do if we suspect it's fraud?

Spemily
01-24-2017, 09:04 AM
If he is using a stolen credit card, there will likely eventually be a chargeback on NF and you would lose the money, even if it has already been deposited in your bank account. (I think you'd have a negative balance on NF, not that they'd actually take the money back out of your bank account.) I'm not sure what would happen with Amazon.

You could try sending in a support ticket to NF and asking them if he's a reputable customer. If this is a new behavior for him, or he's a new customer, they might be suspicious as well.

Rina
01-24-2017, 10:08 AM
It's not uncommon in my experience for guys to drop those kinds of tributes in findom. I will also add that I have not had a chargeback in all of my years on NF.

PSOcodemonkey
01-24-2017, 01:43 PM
...I mean this guy is sending me so much so soon that i can't help but wonder if he is fraud. But how can i tell?

Can be legit, but in cases of sudden large amounts of tributes from callers new to you, NF has always told me to send an email to them just alerting them that you have been getting a lot of tributes from a caller new to you in a short time. Basically tell them you have no real fear of fraud, but just wanted to make sure they were aware.

The reason is, last year well known innocent flirts (plural) temporally had their listings removed after a case of certain customers doing credit card fraud. The flirts were innocent (at least the ones I am aware of), and their listings later put back up, but days without calls adds up to no money. NF basically said that any flirt getting large amounts of tribute money within a small amount of time, esp from callers new to them, should just shoot NF CS a note making sure they are aware. That way, if the charges are fraudulent, and NF starts pulling listings again, they would see that you alerted them.

So go ahead and keep doing great financial domination, and getting those tributes. But cover your ass with NF just in case there is a later issue.

Girly_Girl
01-31-2017, 08:18 AM
How do I contact customer service?

Louise Love
01-31-2017, 02:51 PM
Has anyone experienced FL calls not showing up in FL results? This has happened twice to me this week; the first time I wrote support and they were able to associate the call with the LSV value but he still doesn't show up in my FL customers list. Last night I had another FL callalso not show up in my transactions. I've sent them another message but I really am frustrated with having to go through the bids and clicks with a fine tooth comb to make sure my conversions count. Is this just a fluke?

Louise Love
01-31-2017, 02:54 PM
How do I contact customer service?

Go to my account and look in the bottom line for flirt help. Click that and a submenu appears with three options where you can create your request. That's also where the link to the flirt forums are, just throwing that in there because it took me a long time to figure that out, LOL.

PS sorry for the ginormous screen shot I tried to edit and delete it out but not seeing the option.

Girly_Girl
01-31-2017, 03:23 PM
Go to my account and look in the bottom line for flirt help. Click that and a submenu appears with three options where you can create your request. That's also where the link to the flirt forums are, just throwing that in there because it took me a long time to figure that out, LOL.

PS sorry for the ginormous screen shot I tried to edit and delete it out but not seeing the option.

lol....its ok:) Thank you and I had totally forgot there was a forum for nf....lol. Thanks for reminding me and showing me how to find both:)

JGB2009
02-02-2017, 09:54 AM
Anybody having trouble with Skype here? When I have a customer add me it takes over 5 minutes or more for them to show up for me to add them. Any suggestions please?

Magical_Hoohah
02-02-2017, 11:36 AM
^There is a bug with Skype since the new version came out. It affects all the versions, so rolling back the update won't help. New contact requests are appearing in the web version and the mobile version of Skype, but taking forever on the desktop version. If you keep Skype open in a browser or your phone, you can add the new contacts there, and then they'll appear in your desktop version.

The bug sucks, and considering that it's widespread, they're taking forever to fix it. Just be glad you only waited 5 minutes - some people have reported waiting DAYS for new contacts to show up.

JGB2009
02-02-2017, 12:35 PM
^There is a bug with Skype since the new version came out. It affects all the versions, so rolling back the update won't help. New contact requests are appearing in the web version and the mobile version of Skype, but taking forever on the desktop version. If you keep Skype open in a browser or your phone, you can add the new contacts there, and then they'll appear in your desktop version.

The bug sucks, and considering that it's widespread, they're taking forever to fix it. Just be glad you only waited 5 minutes - some people have reported waiting DAYS for new contacts to show up.

Thanks so very much for the advice.

MalloryBee
02-02-2017, 04:19 PM
I'm a soon to be cam girl and I was thinking about signing up with NF and AW. I have a little real life experience with findom and being dominant and I've been learning from domme videos and this forum. I'm thinking about doing findom, hypnosis, and foot stuff.

For you ladies who use AW and NF, are you currently meeting your financial goals with both of these sites? If you use more than these two sites, is your most of your income from both of these sites?

I've read that cam girls cant solely rely on one site so I thought two would be good but I've also been reading the camming sucks and camming rocks threads. Are these two sites enough? I hear the regulars on both sites can be very loyal and generous but I do see some cam girls on SW having 3-5 sites in their signature so I wonder if it's realistic for a beginner to start off with a goal of $400 - $500 a week and meet that goal with 2 sites selling audio, texts, and camming.