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justanothercamgirl
09-26-2013, 10:43 AM
Snowy0Star NF is extremely unstable at the moment. Not saying you shouldn't sign up, but that's just something you should know. And yes Skype is offsite. Its kinda like independent camming, except there are a lot of rules. If you do sign up be sure to read the TOS through and through. The cut isn't really 70/30 your part. Its more like 65/35. More even if you decide to bid. If you have a pre-existing fanbase then I would not suggest sending them to that site. Not with all the tech issues. If you plan on riding the traffic...the traffic in minimal and dwindling. I would suggest CMD if you are looking to get out of Free Chat. Sorry to sound so negative against NF, but something is off there. But of course that could always turn around, So I suppose setting up an account for if and when that happens couldn't hurt.
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justanothercamgirl
09-26-2013, 10:46 AM
Hi all!
I've been awfully quiet in my time on SW, primarily because I am doing more learning than teaching. You ladies have done a fine job of explaining a LOT about NF on this thread. Bravo and thank you!!!
The other General Purpose Threads all have a brief description about the in's and outs of the site. This includes a lot of what you've discussed already in a quick summary, just for an easy reference. Here it is:
About Niteflirt:
NF is primarily a phone sex company
You can create up to three Characters.
Each Character has the ability to create many different listings for live phone sex, recorded MP3's, phone with cam, and Pay to View Mail.
You can send content, free minutes, and emails to your customers.
You set your own rates. (Under .99/min NOT recommended. Don't be cheap!)
NF Does not have its own cam client or software. You will use Skype, Yahoo, etc. I do NOT recommend Yahoo, but many girls use it successfully.
Each customer that calls you has the opportunity to leave you feedback. You can also get feedback on content and recorded Mp3's
You can cam with your phone calls, or choose not to cam. But you ALWAYS have to take a call in order to get paid. Tributes/Payments for Skype shows is prohibited.
You may advertise cam on Phone Only listings if you wish, but you are require to have cam options on Phone with Cam listings.
Niteflirt will take care of chargebacks for you, unless its a crazy situation like fraud or something similar.
NF Uses a "bidding" system where you can pay for position on the site. This is billed per click. (If you bid .25 a click, you will be billed .25 for each "qualified" customer that clicks your link. You can set a budget to regulate expenses.)
NF is not very user friendly. You really have to work on this site to make it a winner for you. It also is not easy to get started, but work great work, comes great payout. Your mileage may vary.
You MAY use a cell phone for calls. If your coverage sucks, you will lose customers quickly. Landline or exceptional cell coverage is preferred.
Unlike other phone sex companies, you are not required to work a schedule, but staying regular in your hours will benefit you GREATLY.
You do not have to use your own photos for your phone listings. You will make more money if you do use yours. Using stock photos for cam listings is NOT advised.
You can choose to get paid daily (Express Pay) depending on your bank, it will process within a week.
Niteflirt is 70/30 split for money made. (In your favor)
You may not do taboo, i.e., incest, bestiality, scat, period play, adult baby, rape, underage scenes, or pee/poo calls. This is in violation of Play Fair Terms and Conditions. (Corrections welcome!)
You do not have to do calls in categories you're not comfortable with. Matter of fact, just avoid them. Your callers will sense you are not okay/not experienced with the subject and you could lose the caller and potentially earn negative feedback.
In order to succeed on NF, you must read, read, read!! Go through SW's forums, lots of great info here...deeply hidden. NF has good forums as well, but the girls don't reveal a whole lot of secrets. Be creative, do your own thing. That's why NF is so diverse to begin with.
Don't do "taboo" calls. As tempting as it is to break the rules, the "No taboos" girls hurt the site just to make a few extra pennies, and they are booted off the site as quickly as they come in. Plus, you'll be encouraging people to do things that are illegal. Again, just don't do it.
NF has an affiliate program that, to my knowledge, can pay handsomely if you use it.
You can have your own website or blog and advertise it on NF, but it must be NF only - no outside content or pay options can be present on your site or NF will pull your listing and ask you to remove your link from their site.
You will have to push a lot of your own traffic and retain your own customers.
Please add to this list!!
This is so freaking awesome that I am going to put it as the first post in this thread! Thank you so much!!!
Snowy0Star
09-26-2013, 10:46 AM
aww thax for looking out Phatgirl i already have an account but ive never used it just looking into more eggs to add for my basket of green goodies ($$$$$$$) =^y^= . I still plan on using it but ill tred carefully
justanothercamgirl
09-26-2013, 10:50 AM
aww thax for looking out Phatgirl i already have an account but ive never used it just looking into more eggs to add for my basket of green goodies ($$$$$$$) =^y^= . I still plan on using it but ill tred carefully
I think it is more than worth it to join as long as it isn't your primary income. ;D
JusCammin505
09-29-2013, 01:01 PM
I just got to read all the responses and questions since I chimed in. A couple of ladies mentioned that NF is a hot mess. It IS an unstable hot mess indeed. I use 2-4 other cam companies and a handful of other PSO sites to make up for when NF has a no-traffic streak. But I do have many regular die hard NF fans that I keep in contact with and they alone can keep my bills paid. I am the exception to the rule, I make NF work for me because I love the site and at the time, I had no other options. It can be treacherous for noob girls trying to get on the Niteflirt bandwagon, and it also can pay well if you stick with it.
I didn't copy/paste anything in my post, I wrote that all from my knowledge from having been with NF for nearly 4 years. I'm a big fan of it and I plan to stay, but honestly, when the traffic dies, I just hang in there with my regular guys and I surf other sites, primarily AW... which I must agree with PhatGirl, I feel like there should be a University of Adultwork just to learn to set up your profile!! But, the reason I like NF and AW, is that I've already spent the time being the noob and the countless hours of learning, promoting, building clientele, and so on. Now, I enjoy a pretty lucrative reward for my hard work.
My advice for ladies getting into NF, (or AW) just gotta have a backup plan for when it sucks until you build up regulars. It will take a LONG time, but if you are good at what you do, you will have customers for years to come.
To answer the question about phone with cam, yes you can add cam info (You have to make your Skype info as a pay to view mail with a link) to any phone listing. BUT, there are special "Phone with cam" categories you will have better advertising luck with. Many guys on NF don't want to read through your phone listings to gather details, so I personally do not have cam listed in my "phone only" categories... too many guys got confused as to which have cam and which don't.
JusCammin505
09-29-2013, 01:02 PM
I just got to read all the responses and questions since I chimed in. A couple of ladies mentioned that NF is a hot mess. It IS an unstable hot mess indeed. I use 2-4 other cam companies and a handful of other PSO sites to make up for when NF has a no-traffic streak. But I do have many regular die hard NF fans that I keep in contact with and they alone can keep my bills paid. I am the exception to the rule, I make NF work for me because I love the site and at the time, I had no other options. It can be treacherous for noob girls trying to get on the Niteflirt bandwagon, and it also can pay well if you stick with it.
I didn't copy/paste anything in my post, I wrote that all from my knowledge from having been with NF for nearly 4 years. I'm a big fan of it and I plan to stay, but honestly, when the traffic dies, I just hang in there with my regular guys and I surf other sites, primarily AW... which I must agree with PhatGirl, I feel like there should be a University of Adultwork just to learn to set up your profile!! But, the reason I like NF and AW, is that I've already spent the time being the noob and the countless hours of learning, promoting, building clientele, and so on. Now, I enjoy a pretty lucrative reward for my hard work.
To answer the question about phone with cam, yes you can add cam info (You have to make your Skype info as a pay to view mail with a link) to any phone listing. BUT, there are special "Phone with cam" categories you will have better advertising luck with. Many guys on NF don't want to read through your phone listings to gather details, so I personally do not have cam listed in my "phone only" categories... too many guys got confused as to which have cam and which don't.
My advice for ladies getting into NF, (or AW) just gotta have a backup plan for when it sucks until you build up regulars. It will take a LONG time, but if you are good at what you do, and I do stress the fact that you MUST be good at it, you will have customers for years to come.
Snowy0Star
09-29-2013, 01:22 PM
I didn't copy/paste anything in my post, I wrote that all from my knowledge from having been with NF for nearly 4 years.
fuck girl ur like goddess of NF then but again ty for all that great info
kortneykay
09-29-2013, 08:41 PM
I think newbies would do better on NF than CMD. A few great reviews and bidding will get you calls on there with a higher potential of regulars than from CMD. CMD will leave you with months of NO shows or a few in between. At least with NF, if you spend a little, you will get some back.
Snowy0Star
09-30-2013, 04:39 PM
Does anyone know if Skype Numbers work on NiteFlirt? I know that SM blocks them because every time i use the phone feature it doesn't ring. But I'm moving in 3 months so i gots-ta hustle hard right now.
chloemay
10-01-2013, 07:57 AM
I haven't been posting much due to an illness, but have to share this. Yesterday, I felt good enough to take calls on NF and logged on. A message came through requesting a custom MP3. I didn't really feel like it, so I said okay, for $6.00 a minute, 5 minutes minimum.
He responded, "Fine, I'll take 15 minutes." Sent me a script and the $90.00. MP3, not a video.
This isn't a brag, I'm sharing this because NF guys will pay as long as we don't train them to be cheap. I hope NF never is transformed into a cheapie wasteland like ELM.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-01-2013, 08:04 AM
I haven't been posting much due to an illness, but have to share this. Yesterday, I felt good enough to take calls on NF and logged on. A message came through requesting a custom MP3. I didn't really feel like it, so I said okay, for $6.00 a minute, 5 minutes minimum.
He responded, "Fine, I'll take 15 minutes." Sent me a script and the $90.00. MP3, not a video.
This isn't a brag, I'm sharing this because NF guys will pay as long as we don't train them to be cheap. I hope NF never is transformed into a cheapie wasteland like ELM.
You got that amount because you went "High" from the get go. Too many women will sell themselves short for fear of losing out on a "some money is better than no money" type of logic. Yes the guys there will pay. And will come back for more if you offer quality work and good customer service skills. Good for you hun!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-01-2013, 08:08 AM
Does anyone know if Skype Numbers work on NiteFlirt? I know that SM blocks them because every time i use the phone feature it doesn't ring. But I'm moving in 3 months so i gots-ta hustle hard right now.
It works sometimes but it's not recommended. Again there are quite a few issues with their system and using a google voice number I believe added to the issue. Never used my skype number though but a relative does and she says its problematic from time to time. But honestly its problematic for me from time to time with a landline. So you really won't know until you try it for yourself.
Snowy0Star
10-01-2013, 08:10 AM
It works sometimes but it's not recommended. Again there are quite a few issues with their system and using a google voice number I believe added to the issue. Never used my skype number though but a relative does and she says its problematic from time to time. But honestly its problematic for me from time to time with a landline. So you really won't know until you try it for yourself.
ok thax
Snowy both Skype and google voice have a some problems as PhatGirl said but I've found google voice works a little better.
Snowy0Star
10-01-2013, 08:22 AM
Snowy both Skype and google voice have a some problems as PhatGirl said but I've found google voice works a little better.
i dont have a cell phone and i cant use google voice on my computer aside from texting but my skype number i have that to make phone calls with my skype on my comp and internet . ill just have to find a away to get in the listings my account has never been used yet :/
Snowy go with Skype if that's all you can use right now. I just had less static with google voice, but you can still use Skype. Put yourself in lots of categories too. Like every category you can do.
JusCammin505
10-01-2013, 05:40 PM
Snowy:
Google voice and Skype should work....kinda. They are VERY glitchy. Not just in call drops and connectivity, but in that sometime the NF dialer thinks you hung up because of a computer glitch. Guys HATE when calls echo, sound distant, drop completely, or otherwise suck and they will knock you in your feedback for that. I would suggest getting at VOIP (like Vonage) at the bare minimum. Invest in a landline if you can and you can advertise that on your NF page. "Sexy girl, with LANDLINE!" The guys eat it up because so many girls use crappy quality cell phones, google voice, or whatever else they can. If its all you have for now then roll with it, but I highly advise finding a solution to your phone issue.
I use an iphone with a wired headset or a good quality bluetooth if I'm camming. Going down to Wally World and grabbing the $20 bluetooth will NOT cut it, I promise. (I made that mistake twice!) Get yourself something with noise cancellation, it will be worth the investment.
If you find another solution to the issue, please let me know, I am more than curious to hear what you come up with! Good Luck :)
BlkSharpie
10-02-2013, 09:23 AM
Re: the time of the transistion... I think you all are right! I was just looking at my reivews, and my last ones were in 2011. I could have *sworn* I havnt worked NF in 3 or 4 years. My sense of time is AWFUL LMFAO!!! So it has only been about 2yrs since I was last working on NF. Not as bad as I thought... Have already been in touch with a couple of guys who have sent me some tributes.. Ill be updating my listings and my website which I still have up and running, and try to get everythign back on track here. Pretty excited actually!
TeenageAnnie
10-06-2013, 04:35 PM
Hey ladies. I noticed ALOT of girls with independant domme websites were using niteflirt as a way to recieve tributes from slaves and such. they have linked buttons on their websites that say like "$10" "$20" and when you click it takes you to Niteflirt to a page like this:
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so i wanted to make 1 myself. but then i saw this.
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Now i read this as "you're not allowed to tell customers that you are "donating" their money to a charity (such as animal shelter). but then the last bit "or anything of the like.". What does this mean? Am I allowed to use NiteFlirt as a means to recieve 'donations' (for my own bank account not for animal charitys) from guys or am i not allowed? i know loads of others are doing it but i prefer to stick to the rules and I'm a bit confused here.
Tributes are fine, and allowed. There is even a setting that says allow users to leave tribute on this listing. You just can't tell people the money is going to charity, as long as it is just money for you it's allowed.
TeenageAnnie
10-07-2013, 03:17 PM
How the fuck do i a create a listing? all i see is this...
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Billabong
10-07-2013, 03:43 PM
^ You created a customer account. Go here and create a Flirt account. http://www.niteflirt.com/advice
charizma
10-08-2013, 12:59 AM
I want to share my experience with NF. I started with a price of 1.99 per camera and phone and I never got any calls. Then one day i decided well ill go the lowest ever and i changed price to 0.99 and then calls started coming , no advertising on my part nothing ..people started calling i built regulars and as well good reviews. Then after a few weeks of steady calls i increased the price to 1.20 and calls kept coming and now i have increased it even more. I am really busy with NF and I love it ...My advice is the new girls to not put high prices and expect someone will throw money at you ...start lower and build a name and good reviews ...then gradually increase the prices and guys will pay :)
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-08-2013, 05:49 AM
You can go from a customer account to a flirt account. I think the link is at the bottom of the page. You dont have to start all over.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-08-2013, 05:56 AM
I want to share my experience with NF. I started with a price of 1.99 per camera and phone and I never got any calls. Then one day i decided well ill go the lowest ever and i changed price to 0.99 and then calls started coming , no advertising on my part nothing ..people started calling i built regulars and as well good reviews. Then after a few weeks of steady calls i increased the price to 1.20 and calls kept coming and now i have increased it even more. I am really busy with NF and I love it ...My advice is the new girls to not put high prices and expect someone will throw money at you ...start lower and build a name and good reviews ...then gradually increase the prices and guys will pay :)
Im glad you are doing well. But .99 cents is way to low for cam. Even temporarily. You don't have to go sky high in the beginning of course not. But pleases ladies do not place yourself so far below the industry standard. Get a twitter or something. Post pics and tweet your url to get your name out there. You can do that while waiting in line at the bank or grocery story. I would only try that with phone only. I once did .75 a couple of years ago and the callers I got were horrendous. My cheapest listing to date is $1.69. My highest listing is $5.99. The irony is that the same guys who call me at $1.69 also call me at $5.99. But they have no idea they are talking to the same person. No clue. My point is they will pay those high prices, when the site works correctly. But right now the traffic is recycled and the government is screwed up. Many guys are afraid to splurge right now.
Glamourmilf
10-08-2013, 06:09 AM
^^^ Truer words were never spoken! This is right on, and very current to how NF is. thanks for that!
chloemay
10-08-2013, 06:19 AM
Im glad you are doing well. But .99 cents is way to low for cam. Even temporarily. You don't have to go sky high in the beginning of course not. But pleases ladies do not place yourself so far below the industry standard. Get a twitter or something. Post pics and tweet your url to get your name out there. You can do that while waiting in line at the bank or grocery story. I would only try that with phone only. I once did .75 a couple of years ago and the callers I got were horrendous. My cheapest listing to date is $1.69. My highest listing is $5.99. The irony is that the same guys who call me at $1.69 also call me at $5.99. But they have no idea they are talking to the same person. No clue. My point is they will pay those high prices, when the site works correctly. But right now the traffic is recycled and the government is screwed up. Many guys are afraid to splurge right now.
Right, and remember that Nightflirt is primarily designed to be a phone sex site. It didn't even have a cam section at first.
The pop-up that suggests you charge $1.99 a minute when designing your listing is meant for Phone Only. Using NF for fast cash bottom-feeders will work for a while, but why? You can build your own business there and get quality clientle. There are plenty of other sites to low-ball for $ in a hurry.
Independent girls are the elite, we name our own price.
Snowy0Star
10-09-2013, 03:10 PM
You can go from a customer account to a flirt account. I think the link is at the bottom of the page. You dont have to start all over.
its the same link when i logged in to make my first ad and saw the same thing that annie posted in this thread i was still logged into NF and clicked the linked billabong posted it just took me to a page to turn my custie account into a model account
Snowy0Star
10-09-2013, 03:18 PM
Is the number the same every time u get a call from NF? So I can just save that number as a contact in my Skype (iI use a digital phone number from Skype as my only line) and label it Niteflirt so I know when I'm getting a custie call?
HaydenBlue
10-09-2013, 03:30 PM
Yes it's the same #
JaneBurgess
10-09-2013, 09:23 PM
Not to be mean but super cheap performers are a HUGE reason why sites are sucking. It brings in cheap customers that expect or demand other performers to change their rates lower. No one should do a cam show for under $2 unless it is a non nude cam. My advice is to not cheapen yourself and set your rates at a decent price. NF needs to get their ass in gear and set a minimum cam rate at $1.99 a minute and stop this dollar shit that is happening on there.
I want to share my experience with NF. I started with a price of 1.99 per camera and phone and I never got any calls. Then one day i decided well ill go the lowest ever and i changed price to 0.99 and then calls started coming , no advertising on my part nothing ..people started calling i built regulars and as well good reviews. Then after a few weeks of steady calls i increased the price to 1.20 and calls kept coming and now i have increased it even more. I am really busy with NF and I love it ...My advice is the new girls to not put high prices and expect someone will throw money at you ...start lower and build a name and good reviews ...then gradually increase the prices and guys will pay :)
Not to be mean but super cheap performers are a HUGE reason why sites are sucking. It brings in cheap customers that expect or demand other performers to change their rates lower. No one should do a cam show for under $2 unless it is a non nude cam. My advice is to not cheapen yourself and set your rates at a decent price. NF needs to get their ass in gear and set a minimum cam rate at $1.99 a minute and stop this dollar shit that is happening on there.
Excuse me but I do non-nude and I charge 3.99 minimum, non-nude performers do not have to charge less. Just because we aren't getting naked doesn't mean we should have a cheaper price. I am an excellent domme and just because I'm clothed doesn't mean I should lower my rates. Nude camming is not the only valuable service. My time and attention and knowledge of my fetish are worth a hell of a lot more than 2.00/min. So you might want to think twice before advising a non-nude model what her service is worth. You always speak about solidarity among girls and not cheapening the market, but I see you were quick to pitch those of us who do things differently into the cheap pile.
Snowy0Star
10-10-2013, 09:14 AM
^ i think she ment the minimum for non nude should be $2 a minute and nude $4 a min not that non nude is any less worth then nude . fetish and roleplay IMO should always be more because it takes more mental-capacity i guess is the best way to say it. it requires knowledge and skill thats not needed when u do vanilla camming
^ i think she ment the minimum for non nude should be $2 a minute and nude $4 a min not that non nude is any less worth then nude . fetish and roleplay IMO should always be more because it takes more mental-capacity i guess is the best way to say it. it requires knowledge and skill thats not needed when u do vanilla camming
That still implies that non-nude is worth less. Why should any non-nude models minimum have to be less than nude models? Why are people trying to set up what is essentially a false dichotomy, between nude and non-nude we are all models. We all provide some type of wank fodder in one way or another. I have been a nude model and it the job was about the same so I don't the idea there should be different minimums. It just doesn't make sense.
Snowy0Star
10-10-2013, 09:27 AM
its life tho some things are just considered less then other things. im NOT saying i AGREE with it - im just stating my obervations on this topic . when i was an escort from time to time i got contacted my porn producers - they told me i had to do anal or they didnt want to work with me but that if i lost weight i could have a choice. some things in adult work are just on a different playing field
its life tho some things are just considered less then other things. im NOT saying i AGREE with it - im just stating my obervations on this topic . when i was an escort from time to time i got contacted my porn producers - they told me i had to do anal or they didnt want to work with me but that if i lost weight i could have a choice. some things in adult work are just on a different playing field
Having been the industry off and on since the 90's I know that, but it doesn't mean I have to to co-sign it, and I'm not going to. I'm a BBW , I'm black, I get it but accepting that shit will never but more money in your pocket. I charge industry standard or higher always have and always will, and I get it always have and always will. No model should sell themselves short, regardless of what the industry wants. If you can get more why take less.
I'm not trying to derail this thread, my point is simple don't feel obligated to charge less if you are non-nude, BBW, etc end of.
TeenageAnnie
10-10-2013, 10:13 AM
none-nude and none-nude domme are a bit different. i charge more for my none-nude domme persona than i do on another site where i offer a none-nude girlfriend experience service, because i just don't feel my GFE persona takes any effort at all whereas being a domme is harder because you need to be a mind reader and know what these guys want and also a hell of a lot of research of fetishes.
Annie I understand what you're saying. I've done GFE which I charged more for that than domme. I'm a lifestyler so the domme stuff I'm just me being me. The GFE thing, was so hard for me though so I charged more, and I ended up offering a domme light bitchy gfe thing anyway because my I've never been a good actress. LOL
My point is there can't always be blanket generalizations and we should charge customers as much as we can for whatever we do. I charge the highest price this is profitable. Though I understand if you put in more effort you charge more because of that. It's going to be individual to an extent. I just don't like the idea of anyone low-balling themselves when they don't have to. A model may not always be the prettiest, the thinnest, etc but if she is damned good at what she does she should make people pay.
JaneBurgess
10-10-2013, 01:40 PM
I am sorry you took took what I meant in an offensive way. I meant no one should be charging under $2 a minute for cam period. I didn't mean to imply that the non nude niche was less important. Sometimes when you're typing things instead of verbally saying things it doesn't come out right. All niches should be valued and all cam performers should value their time online with rates that reflect their values.
Excuse me but I do non-nude and I charge 3.99 minimum, non-nude performers do not have to charge less. Just because we aren't getting naked doesn't mean we should have a cheaper price. I am an excellent domme and just because I'm clothed doesn't mean I should lower my rates. Nude camming is not the only valuable service. My time and attention and knowledge of my fetish are worth a hell of a lot more than 2.00/min. So you might want to think twice before advising a non-nude model what her service is worth. You always speak about solidarity among girls and not cheapening the market, but I see you were quick to pitch those of us who do things differently into the cheap pile.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-10-2013, 02:12 PM
Is the number the same every time u get a call from NF? So I can just save that number as a contact in my Skype (iI use a digital phone number from Skype as my only line) and label it Niteflirt so I know when I'm getting a custie call?
Sometimes and I know this from experiencing it, the number may appear as PRIVATE. Typically I wont answer private numbers but then found out I was missing out on calls. Just a few. Not sure of the logistics of why NF comes up as a private number? But if it happens and it's your policy to not cater to those who block their numbers.....just pick it up and say nothing or wait three seconds and say Hello ONCE! If you hear the NF prompt then proceed along. But if they say nothing it's a weasel/pso testing you and sampling the goods. Sometimes its a delay in the connection. But anything more than 3 seconds is a problem on the part of NF/Toll Free Number Provider. Or if it's Direct dial a wanker.
BlondebombGA
10-10-2013, 03:54 PM
If you charge it...they will come...or cum. ;) If you are great at what you do, the men who love it will pay. I had my phone listing at .99 cents just to get my first rating, and then upwards ever since. I have just started a phone with cam listing for my Domme listings, and I'm charging 4.09 AND have made it clear that they will be getting the pleasure of just my nose down with absolutely no nudity. (But then again this is why I have decided to only have Dominant characters, because tease and denial is definitely my niche)
Will I make as much as other phone with cam? Some days yes, some days no, but after NF's cut I just couldn't justify going to the trouble of setting up and getting all fancy if I wasn't making a rate that felt worth it to me, and was at least double the rate for me just picking up the phone.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-11-2013, 01:22 PM
I am sorry you took took what I meant in an offensive way. I meant no one should be charging under $2 a minute for cam period. I didn't mean to imply that the non nude niche was less important. Sometimes when you're typing things instead of verbally saying things it doesn't come out right. All niches should be valued and all cam performers should value their time online with rates that reflect their values.
Jane you seem to be apologizing or explaining yourself all across the board? Not sure what that means but I noticed this more and more this past week.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-11-2013, 01:24 PM
I am sorry you took took what I meant in an offensive way. I meant no one should be charging under $2 a minute for cam period. I didn't mean to imply that the non nude niche was less important. Sometimes when you're typing things instead of verbally saying things it doesn't come out right. All niches should be valued and all cam performers should value their time online with rates that reflect their values.
On Forums there is no accounting for tone and inflection.
justanothercamgirl
10-11-2013, 01:50 PM
Jane you seem to be apologizing or explaining yourself all across the board? Not sure what that means but I noticed this more and more this past week.
I feel bad that she feels the need to. Jane is an awesome, outspoken and supportive camgirl. I just assume that if something she said comes off with what looks like malicious intent that the fault comes in my understanding and not her intention.
Snowy0Star
10-11-2013, 01:56 PM
jane is just a bit ruff around the edges and sometimes what she says comes off the wrong way because of the way ppl read it. its not her fault ppl just dont get her. but i understand what she says and i like her shes is very helpful here
JaneBurgess
10-11-2013, 02:30 PM
I think it's because I am a really honest person and just say what I think. I don't mean to be harsh but sometimes I think it looks that way or sometimes people take it that way. I feel bad if anyone thinks I am trying to be mean to them because that isn't my intention. So I would rather apologize if a posting came off wrong to someone then ignore their posting and be a dick. I'm only human and I make mistakes. :)
Jane you seem to be apologizing or explaining yourself all across the board? Not sure what that means but I noticed this more and more this past week.
JaneBurgess
10-11-2013, 02:31 PM
That's exactly it. Sometimes when you post you are being honest but it comes off kinda rude and that isn't how I meant it.
I feel bad that she feels the need to. Jane is an awesome, outspoken and supportive camgirl. I just assume that if something she said comes off with what looks like malicious intent that the fault comes in my understanding and not her intention.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-11-2013, 03:24 PM
I think it's because I am a really honest person and just say what I think. I don't mean to be harsh but sometimes I think it looks that way or sometimes people take it that way. I feel bad if anyone thinks I am trying to be mean to them because that isn't my intention. So I would rather apologize if a posting came off wrong to someone then ignore their posting and be a dick. I'm only human and I make mistakes. :)
Hey Jane, I understand. I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything. It was more like a thought that popped into my head, and then add the reactions that you've been getting. Like I posted before there is no accounting for tone and inflection when on a board.
JusCammin505
10-11-2013, 03:49 PM
Hate to interrupt the convo...but has anyone else been BANKING on NF!??
I haven't changed a thing, I've been working weird hours, not sending out promo stuff, I deleted my twitter, and I have not even been bidding, basically everything you an possibly to do kill your traffic....and yet, somehow, the calls are coming nonstop every time I log in. They're not all regulars either, lots of new guys. Most of them are over ten mins long too! :party2:
I'm loving this.... anyone else having this kind of luck today/this week?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-11-2013, 04:48 PM
Hate to interrupt the convo...but has anyone else been BANKING on NF!??
I haven't changed a thing, I've been working weird hours, not sending out promo stuff, I deleted my twitter, and I have not even been bidding, basically everything you an possibly to do kill your traffic....and yet, somehow, the calls are coming nonstop every time I log in. They're not all regulars either, lots of new guys. Most of them are over ten mins long too! :party2:
I'm loving this.... anyone else having this kind of luck today/this week?
Thats great