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xxxGothBarbie
03-15-2017, 05:32 PM
Also what if they call wanting my phone with cam listing & I am away from my computer out doing errands or something? how does that work?
JaceyLynn
03-15-2017, 06:08 PM
You can just set your cam listing to mail only that way they cannot call it and they can just call your other listing.
xxxGothBarbie
03-15-2017, 06:21 PM
^ ok awesome :) thanks!
JaceyLynn
03-15-2017, 06:24 PM
Not a problem :)
JaceyLynn
03-15-2017, 07:21 PM
Question for you ladies that sell goodie bags on NF, regarding picture sets. Is less really more for photo count. I notice that most girls maybe have 5/15 photos in their goodie bags, with my content models some photo sets have 50+ photos. I am wondering if it is better to have smaller galleries, or larger ones.
sarahlove
03-16-2017, 12:51 AM
Question for you ladies that sell goodie bags on NF, regarding picture sets. Is less really more for photo count. I notice that most girls maybe have 5/15 photos in their goodie bags, with my content models some photo sets have 50+ photos. I am wondering if it is better to have smaller galleries, or larger ones.
I sell one photo at a time as a captioned photo. They range from $1.99 to 29.99 depending on if the model is clothed or not (I hire girls and take pics so some of the models I use do not have any nude photos and are in financial domination.)
sarahlove
03-16-2017, 12:54 AM
I can help with that :)
You can see my portfolio here: http://myadultdesign.com/niteflirt-templates/
Not sure about others but at the end I give you a HTML code which you insert in your Niteflirt profile and that's it. You can buy hosting for the images or we can use a free host.
OMG you are responsible for "crazy ex gf" I LOVE that profile!!! SUCH amazing ideas. Honestly I find that whole concept and profile to be one of the TOP profiles on NF!! GOOD JOB!
JaceyLynn
03-16-2017, 08:15 AM
OMG you are responsible for "crazy ex gf" I LOVE that profile!!! SUCH amazing ideas. Honestly I find that whole concept and profile to be one of the TOP profiles on NF!! GOOD JOB!
I feel the same way about that profile. Its amazing.
Loreen
03-16-2017, 10:57 AM
Thank you but I truly can't take the credit for it, at least not for the idea behind it and the photos.
I only made the design (but happy to hear it's appreciated) :)
Nikki_Fox
03-16-2017, 12:44 PM
I just got my profile & listings up yay ;) i'm confused as to how much I should charge starting out. I wanna get my business based on quanity moreso than quality so I earn more in the beginning. Can anyone suggest me some rates as to what you started out as? Thanks :) Right now I'm 1.50 reg, 1.99 phone w/ cam.
You have to do what works for you - I started mine out at .89 and .99 to generate calls and reviews then bumped up from there - ( i also needed whatever money I could make at the time ) I also started when there was no bidding so I had to work up from the bottom - literally -- so that may influence your decision - that said many of my .99 guys have followed me through the price hikes
Horny
03-16-2017, 01:33 PM
I am really new too my listings are about $1.49 for calls and $3.20 for phone and cam. I have had calls on the phone without bidding but I'm going to start that properly tomorrow. Thanks for the tips I might bring some of mine down a bit and see if I can get some more feedback I've only two so far.
sarahlove
03-16-2017, 11:45 PM
You have to do what works for you - I started mine out at .89 and .99 to generate calls and reviews then bumped up from there - ( i also needed whatever money I could make at the time ) I also started when there was no bidding so I had to work up from the bottom - literally -- so that may influence your decision - that said many of my .99 guys have followed me through the price hikes
I have started everyone of my listings at $.99 (except the findom which were at $1.99) Now my lowest line is $1.99. I give myself a raise whenever I don't want to do this anymore.. I figure that is what bosses do to keep employees. I did cam for a while I was at $2.99 per min starting out since I hate having to be ready. I now do them by appointment only. I have noticed that each price bracket has a "type" of customer. Guys who want to go against TOU tend to pay $.99 per min. (In my experience)
sexysusie
03-17-2017, 08:14 AM
I am really new too my listings are about $1.49 for calls and $3.20 for phone and cam. I have had calls on the phone without bidding but I'm going to start that properly tomorrow. Thanks for the tips I might bring some of mine down a bit and see if I can get some more feedback I've only two so far.
You don't need to be cheap to get calls! It's similar to AW where the guys KNOW they will be paying good rates and want to do so. There's also a lot of fetish and Findom custies. Take into account also that we get less because of the dollar to pound exchange rate and it takes months to get our money from there to uk. I started at 2.99 phone and 4.99 phone with cam and now 6 for phone & cam x
Horny
03-17-2017, 09:34 AM
You don't need to be cheap to get calls! It's similar to AW where the guys KNOW they will be paying good rates and want to do so. There's also a lot of fetish and Findom custies. Take into account also that we get less because of the dollar to pound exchange rate and it takes months to get our money from there to uk. I started at 2.99 phone and 4.99 phone with cam and now 6 for phone & cam x
Thanks Susie thats good to know. How long did it take to get regular calls through? I have only just started bidding and don't seem to be getting many but I guess like everything it takes a while..
sexysusie
03-17-2017, 10:05 AM
It took forever. But once you have some feedback you'll get more x
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
03-17-2017, 11:02 AM
My very first phone listing I started at 1.99 a min. I didn't offer cam right away but when I did I started at 2.50 for some reason? Then I bumped it to 2.99 a min. You don't have to start low on there. It is true that you will run into more wankers at the lower rates but there are awesome guys who will call a lower priced listing and just as easily call a high priced one as well. They call you back again and again because they like the quality of your service but will never tell you that they'd actually pay a higher rate if you charged more. I've seen how they bounce around because I have multiple accounts that are wildly different with different price points. It's not necessary to go low in the beginning and work your way up. However the site is very versatile and gives you the ability to create accounts that can compete at different price points.
Horny
03-17-2017, 11:30 AM
My very first phone listing I started at 1.99 a min. I didn't offer cam right away but when I did I started at 2.50 for some reason? Then I bumped it to 2.99 a min. You don't have to start low on there. It is true that you will run into more wankers at the lower rates but there are awesome guys who will call a lower priced listing and just as easily call a high priced one as well. They call you back again and again because they like the quality of your service but will never tell you that they'd actually pay a higher rate if you charged more. I've seen how they bounce around because I have multiple accounts that are wildly different with different price points. It's not necessary to go low in the beginning and work your way up. However the site is very versatile and gives you the ability to create accounts that can compete at different price points.
Thats great thanks I have one guy calling most days and he has left a couple of feedback so hopefully it will come. I started really high so maybe a medium price. With my cut its still way more than my SM on $7.99 so the bottom line is still the same.
xxxGothBarbie
03-18-2017, 09:48 PM
Gee not one call yet :( How long did it take you guys to get a call at sign up? I have 2 listings going, no bidding or advertising.
Spemily
03-18-2017, 10:11 PM
Gee not one call yet :( How long did it take you guys to get a call at sign up? I have 2 listings going, no bidding or advertising.
I didn't get any calls at all until I started bidding. When you first create a listing, you'll be ranked very low. In popular categories, that could mean being in 1500th position. It's unlikely guys will keep clicking through the pages until that point. If you aren't bidding, at first, the only way they can find you is through searching for keywords you have in your listings.
xxxGothBarbie
03-18-2017, 10:13 PM
I didn't get any calls at all until I started bidding. When you first create a listing, you'll be ranked very low. In popular categories, that could mean being in 1500th position. It's unlikely guys will keep clicking through the pages until that point. If you aren't bidding, at first, the only way they can find you is through searching for keywords you have in your listings.
How much is bidding? I'm new to all of this.
Spemily
03-18-2017, 10:59 PM
You can bid any amount you want. The more you bid, the higher you'll rank. When you look at each of your listings, it'll tell you how much you have to bid to appear in first place in the subcategory or the main page. The price you bid is what you pay for each qualified click you receive.
https://support.niteflirt.com/hc/en-us/articles/212830788-Featured-Listings
xxxGothBarbie
03-18-2017, 11:16 PM
^ so you have to spend money to make money on this site?*eye roll* wow... fucking stupid. I'm doing it bc I need money not bc i need to spend money.
DonaDiabla
03-18-2017, 11:20 PM
Actually,xxxGothBarbie, I bid between 5 to 20 cents and that is enough to get some great regulars. So, you do not have to spend too much. Just a few cents can make a difference.
^ so you have to spend money to make money on this site?*eye roll* wow... fucking stupid. I'm doing it bc I need money not bc i need to spend money.
xxxGothBarbie
03-19-2017, 01:46 AM
Actually,xxxGothBarbie, I bid between 5 to 20 cents and that is enough to get some great regulars. So, you do not have to spend too much. Just a few cents can make a difference.
oh ok LoL I was under the impression it was way more. Is it a one time 20 cents or how does that work?
Thanks
PSOcodemonkey
03-19-2017, 02:22 AM
oh ok LoL I was under the impression it was way more. Is it a one time 20 cents or how does that work?
Thanks
The help section on NF is always your friend. For bidding info: https://support.niteflirt.com/hc/en-us/articles/212830788-Featured-Listings
sexysusie
03-19-2017, 04:14 AM
^ so you have to spend money to make money on this site?*eye roll* wow... fucking stupid. I'm doing it bc I need money not bc i need to spend money.
This is one of the ways you get some exposure on non free chat sites, it's very normal. Nf is a lot cheaper than some others. On my main site I spend around £10 per DAY! It is nothing compared to what you can earn when enough people see your profile x
caramelcraze
03-19-2017, 04:15 AM
Gee not one call yet :( How long did it take you guys to get a call at sign up? I have 2 listings going, no bidding or advertising.
I had a listing I left on and didn't advertise for 6 months solid without a single call. Bidding is a necessary evil in the beginning. I invested like $20 between 4 lines and immediately got calls. within a couple weeks I could very easily only reinvest 5% of my profits and still make more than I did the previous week. Some listings I don't even have to bid on anymore.
So in the words of Plautus "you must spend money to make money."
DancesWithSloths
03-19-2017, 07:45 AM
I may be over thinking this, but: when you girls release goodies on NF and promote them on twitter, do you make a separate promo graphic, or just use the cover you've made for NF?
If it was for my cam persona, I'd be making custom graphics for every promo channel, but my NF character doesn't have a personal brand to worry about, so I'm not sure if it's worth the effort.
Loreen
03-19-2017, 08:42 AM
Maybe you could split-test? Try it both ways and see if there are any differences in traffic / sales :)
DancesWithSloths
03-19-2017, 08:57 AM
Maybe you could split-test? Try it both ways and see if there are any differences in traffic / sales :)
Yeah, I probably will. But I'm so laaazy :)
grneyesnfl
03-20-2017, 04:07 AM
oh ok LoL I was under the impression it was way more. Is it a one time 20 cents or how does that work?
Thanks
No... it would be 20 cents for every customer that clicks on your listing within a 24 hr period (whether they call or not). Clicks by flirts don't count... and there are other rules, but basically you're paying for just about every click so your money can run out pretty fast. You'd be wise to set a budget.
xxxGothBarbie
03-20-2017, 02:44 PM
No... it would be 20 cents for every customer that clicks on your listing within a 24 hr period (whether they call or not). Clicks by flirts don't count... and there are other rules, but basically you're paying for just about every click so your money can run out pretty fast. You'd be wise to set a budget.
ok that makes more sense now. At first I was really confused but after reading that thread now i get it . So basically if i decide not to go over $5 budget at 5 or 20 cents then I'll get placement until that amount runs out correct?
JaceyLynn
03-20-2017, 03:16 PM
ok that makes more sense now. At first I was really confused but after reading that thread now i get it . So basically if i decide not to go over $5 budget at 5 or 20 cents then I'll get placement until that amount runs out correct?
Correct, if you set your budget at 5.00 your placement will stop once you hit that point.
xxxGothBarbie
03-20-2017, 03:40 PM
How much are you guys normally bidding? and would it be $5 for every listing I have on there?
JaceyLynn
03-20-2017, 04:45 PM
Yes bidding is per listing. I have not done it yet, I took a long break and am just now getting back into it. I plan on bidding up my main category, not for front page placement, in a few pages, and from there I figured they would be able to look at my other listings once they find the first one.
maddiebabe
03-21-2017, 05:09 AM
You all that do this phone stuff, do you cam at the same time or do you have that all shut off? I was just wondering how you handle it if you are say doing a private show and get a call same time.. What do you do?
It also seems like that is easier to handle with say NF vs if I got hired on with a dispatch or whatever you call it company that would occasionally send calls my way.
MistressX
03-22-2017, 12:03 PM
I trying to start up my niteflirt.. And I bought a headset with a mic that comes out in front of your face. It's super cool and would be super awesome to use with my new phone. I recently bought an LG V20 and for some reason it has massive feedback and weird noises with the headset. I even returned the phone yesterday for a replacement and it does the same thing. I tried it on my friend's phone and it doesnt do it so I know its my phone.
So my question is.. how can I take niteflirt calls on my computer using google voice? Or is that even possible? I would like to (temporarily) use the headset with my computer until I can buy a better bluetooth headset from best buy that I have my eye on. It's not exactly what I want as I wanted the ability to walk around the house and be all wireless. Thats part of the reason I bought the new phone lol.. I'm not exactly excited to hear their stupid voices and fapping noises but I cant rely on streamate anymore. I have signed up for google voice and have a number, I just dont know what to do next.
Rispy_Girl
03-22-2017, 12:23 PM
What percentage are you paid on here?
And in general on pos sites is it best to reroute through Google Voice or a different number instead of giving your actual phone number to the site?
Spemily
03-22-2017, 01:40 PM
I trying to start up my niteflirt.. And I bought a headset with a mic that comes out in front of your face. It's super cool and would be super awesome to use with my new phone. I recently bought an LG V20 and for some reason it has massive feedback and weird noises with the headset. I even returned the phone yesterday for a replacement and it does the same thing. I tried it on my friend's phone and it doesnt do it so I know its my phone.
So my question is.. how can I take niteflirt calls on my computer using google voice? Or is that even possible? I would like to (temporarily) use the headset with my computer until I can buy a better bluetooth headset from best buy that I have my eye on. It's not exactly what I want as I wanted the ability to walk around the house and be all wireless. Thats part of the reason I bought the new phone lol.. I'm not exactly excited to hear their stupid voices and fapping noises but I cant rely on streamate anymore. I have signed up for google voice and have a number, I just dont know what to do next.
If your computer already has Bluetooth, you should be able to pair your headset to the computer. What specific steps you have to follow will depend on what computer and headset you have. You might also need to fiddle with some settings to get it to work with Google Voice.
To use Google Voice on your computer, I believe you need a Chrome plugin that you can get from Google.
If your computer doesn't have Bluetooth, you'll need to buy a USB Bluetooth adapter. They aren't very expensive and can be found on Amazon.
Finally, if you hate your customers so much, this probably isn't a great way for you to make money. You'll be talking to them directly and if they can sense that you despise them or are disgusted by them, things might not work out well unless you are doing SPH or some other form of humiliation. If it's any consolation, I've taken hundreds and hundreds of calls and pretty never hear any actual fapping noises.
Spemily
03-22-2017, 01:43 PM
What percentage are you paid on here?
And in general on pos sites is it best to reroute through Google Voice or a different number instead of giving your actual phone number to the site?
Niteflirt takes a 20 cent connection fee per minute and then 30%, so you make 70% after the fee. On tributes, paid mail and goody bags, you'll get 70%.
Rispy_Girl
03-22-2017, 03:25 PM
Thanks. Based on the percent I think I'll stick to NF as a pos site
MistressX
03-22-2017, 05:11 PM
Thanks for the info. Just to be clear, I dont hate them.. But I'm not exactly excited for the mouth breathers. Although I'm only doing Femdom, so I guess it wont matter. I only do vanilla stuff on streamate, and dont plan on that for NF. I have google voice and a number now, so I guess I'll have a look and see what plugin I need. I looked everywhere to try to find something that gave instructions on how to take calls on your computer with google voice for free, but couldnt find anything.
I dont have a bluetooth headset.. yet. It was a headset I wanted to plug into the headphone jack on my new phone. It was just getting interference noises and weird bleepy bloopy stuff. I am going to buy a bluetooth one soon so I can use it with my cell phone but I wont be able to do that for a while.
thatgingercamgirl
03-22-2017, 08:18 PM
Does anyone have any tips or tricks for making sure that the phone call doesn't disconnect on phone + skype calls? I usually put my iphone down and try to check it periodically during the session, but I've had calls disconnect on me a few times when I got caught up in the flow of the session.
Spemily
03-22-2017, 08:34 PM
Thanks for the info. Just to be clear, I dont hate them.. But I'm not exactly excited for the mouth breathers. Although I'm only doing Femdom, so I guess it wont matter. I only do vanilla stuff on streamate, and dont plan on that for NF. I have google voice and a number now, so I guess I'll have a look and see what plugin I need. I looked everywhere to try to find something that gave instructions on how to take calls on your computer with google voice for free, but couldnt find anything.
I dont have a bluetooth headset.. yet. It was a headset I wanted to plug into the headphone jack on my new phone. It was just getting interference noises and weird bleepy bloopy stuff. I am going to buy a bluetooth one soon so I can use it with my cell phone but I wont be able to do that for a while.
I'm Canadian, so I can't use Google Voice, but I believe that if someone calls your Google Voice number, it'll ring in Hangouts, so the plugin you need is the same one as for Hangouts.
https://tools.google.com/dlpage/hangoutplugin
If your computer only has one microphone/headphones port, you might be able to just plug the headset right into that. If it has two separate ports, you need something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Headsets-Separate-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00Y458NA6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1490239923&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=headset+adapter&psc=1
If your computer has one spot to plug both the mic and headphones and your headset jack doesn't fit, you can also get adapters for that on Amazon, but I can't tell you which one without knowing what you have exactly.
maddiebabe
03-22-2017, 10:56 PM
How do you guys handle it if you get taken into a private show on a camsite and get a phone sex call on niteflirt or whatever other platform you may be on?
Also if you bid and have status as away do customer clicks still count?
Blue-Velvet
03-23-2017, 02:49 AM
Does anyone have any tips or tricks for making sure that the phone call doesn't disconnect on phone + skype calls? I usually put my iphone down and try to check it periodically during the session, but I've had calls disconnect on me a few times when I got caught up in the flow of the session.
Put your iphone on speaker phone while you're doing your phone w/ Skype session. That way you can hear the recorded NF voice if they run out of money, hang up, or get disconnected. Don't let them scam you by hanging up once you're doing your thing on Skype.
thatgingercamgirl
03-23-2017, 01:38 PM
Thank you!
Rispy_Girl
03-24-2017, 11:08 PM
Do any of you use an app to secure your number? I'm considering GoogleVoide and CoverMe right now. Have you tried either and have pros and cons associated with each?
chloemay
03-25-2017, 11:08 AM
Niteflirt doesn't disclose your personal number to the clients.
Rispy_Girl
03-25-2017, 11:33 AM
Niteflirt doesn't disclose your personal number to the clients.
I wanted one more layer of protection in case they are ever hacked. I've had my number for a long time and would like to minimize the chance of having to change it