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JaneBurgess
10-11-2013, 06:15 PM
Thank you :)
Hey Jane, I understand. I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything. It was more like a thought that popped into my head, and then add the reactions that you've been getting. Like I posted before there is no accounting for tone and inflection when on a board.
Incantatious
10-23-2013, 01:40 AM
Any non-US (preferably the input from UK) ladies get paid by cheque?
I can't do the direct deposit thing so I'm going to have to go in for this, but I'm shit scared of having to take the risk of getting it mailed to me all that way. Has anyone from the UK ever had any issues receiving overseas cheques from NF?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-23-2013, 05:29 AM
Any non-US (preferably the input from UK) ladies get paid by cheque?
I can't do the direct deposit thing so I'm going to have to go in for this, but I'm shit scared of having to take the risk of getting it mailed to me all that way. Has anyone from the UK ever had any issues receiving overseas cheques from NF?
I lived there for six months and got two checks sent to me in England. And I didnt have a problem receiving it. Now to be honest I cant remember if it took a long time because I wasn't really waiting for it. I forgot about it until one day was like "Oh yeah, I got money!" My sis is over there and she has never said anything about getting her NF money late either.
dianecallaway
10-23-2013, 02:07 PM
I deal with the same type of thing I just say things how I observe them and because I am not one to "sugar" coat the truth of something I am told I am bitchy. The funny thing is my husband can say something and it will be fine and all I do is repeat him and I am a bitch. I really think it is a woman thing its okay for a man to be outspoken and frank but not a woman. Do not feel bad sometimes the truth is what it is and nothing can or will change that.
I think it's because I am a really honest person and just say what I think. I don't mean to be harsh but sometimes I think it looks that way or sometimes people take it that way. I feel bad if anyone thinks I am trying to be mean to them because that isn't my intention. So I would rather apologize if a posting came off wrong to someone then ignore their posting and be a dick. I'm only human and I make mistakes. :)
dianecallaway
10-23-2013, 02:21 PM
okay so I have been reading all this stuff on what a girls rate should be and to be honest I can only speak in general so if my general does not fall in line with your thing than by all means start sharing what you are doing cuz we all want to know. I have been in this business since 2004 in one way or another. I am white (obviously) average size and average build there are more girls like me out on the internet than about anything else. Now if you are ethnic NOTHING I say may apply to you. If you have three nipples, are an amputee or any other body anomaly then I probably do not apply. For the average girl charging anything above $2.99 a min on niteflirt and getting CONSISTENT (read that again CONSISTENT) calls is going to be rough. I have started out a number of girls on there some a hell of a lot prettier than I could ever be. All of them I started out around .59 to .79 a min phone only and .99 a min camming. They all have done well until this Summer when things went to hell in a hand basket. At those rates a girl should make $60 to $100 a day. I am sorry ladies we are no longer in the early 2000's when we were CONSISTENTLY pulling in $400 days. I was there I know how it was and I know how it is now. It is great that a Black BBW Femdom can pull more per min but the real question should always be how many hours do you work and what is your weekly average pay. I have days where I pull $500 and I have days where I pull $20. Telling a girl she is a sell out because she chooses to be lower than you is just not right. In this business it is NOT what you are worth it IS what you can make. Lowering your price will not guarantee you calls not with how NF places you, but the days of guys throwing down large wads of a cash on a girl CONSISTENTLY are gone there is way too much free stuff out there including the sites that are for tips. Some may not agree with me AWESOME!!! Now do the thing we never see tell us how you get there tell us what you do advertising, husseling etc. empower the women around you and share your secrets.
justanothercamgirl
10-23-2013, 02:22 PM
So I would rather apologize if a posting came off wrong to someone then ignore their posting and be a dick. I'm only human and I make mistakes. :)
I think that it is so positive and awesome that you do! I think if more people followed your example the world would definitely be a happier (or at least less angry) place. :)
I don't think anyone said anyone was selling out by charging less, but I may have missed that moment in the thread.
Diane you do well in a way that works for you and that's awesome. Both Jane and Blondebomb mentioned charging higher, so maybe they will share their insight, as they are both Caucasian/White and as you pointed out in your post what you say may not apply to myself and others who are ethnic. Since you used being a black BBW femdom as an example and I am one, I can only respond that I do the same as most. I blog, use top sites, and tweet. I also have multiple characters so I do have non-black characters as well though. I put the least effort into the character that is actually me.
I have shared my knowledge on this board of what works for me, and I have reached out and offered personal help here to one or two ladies via PM. I have been in the adult business since the 90's a lot has changed and I don't rely on any one site for my entire income, I'm not personally comfortable with that. As with any thread, people need to take the advice that works best for them. If .99 cents works for someone and gets them what they want then they should charge that. If 9.99 gets them what they want then they should charge that. It depends on each girl and her hustle, rates will vary. It is my opinion, not fact just my opinion that a model should charge the most that works for her, whatever that number is.
kortneykay
10-24-2013, 03:43 PM
I lived there for six months and got two checks sent to me in England. And I didnt have a problem receiving it. Now to be honest I cant remember if it took a long time because I wasn't really waiting for it. I forgot about it until one day was like "Oh yeah, I got money!" My sis is over there and she has never said anything about getting her NF money late either.
I think I may know your sis...is she by chance engaged to a certain gentlemen from Croatia and she is over there for school?
JaneBurgess
10-24-2013, 04:12 PM
Technically I'm Cuban, so not white even though I look it. There is no secret to charging higher, you pick the rate that reflects what you feel you are worth. Some people will pay and others won't. There are customers that won't get shows with performers that charge low, so it's hit and miss either way. I don't think phone or cam has anything to do with race at all. It has to do with are you good at what you do and can you get customers to come back. That's always been the secret to camming and phone sex. Customers come back if they like your show/hustle.
You should charge the rate you want but if everyone charges cheap rates it does effect the whole site. It tends to attract cheap customers and no one wants a site full of cheap customers. Fuck look at what is happening over at Streamate, it's not good at all.
I don't think anyone said anyone was selling out by charging less, but I may have missed that moment in the thread.
Diane you do well in a way that works for you and that's awesome. Both Jane and Blondebomb mentioned charging higher, so maybe they will share their insight, as they are both Caucasian/White and as you pointed out in your post what you say may not apply to myself and others who are ethnic. Since you used being a black BBW femdom as an example and I am one, I can only respond that I do the same as most. I blog, use top sites, and tweet. I also have multiple characters so I do have non-black characters as well though. I put the least effort into the character that is actually me.
I have shared my knowledge on this board of what works for me, and I have reached out and offered personal help here to one or two ladies via PM. I have been in the adult business since the 90's a lot has changed and I don't rely on any one site for my entire income, I'm not personally comfortable with that. As with any thread, people need to take the advice that works best for them. If .99 cents works for someone and gets them what they want then they should charge that. If 9.99 gets them what they want then they should charge that. It depends on each girl and her hustle, rates will vary. It is my opinion, not fact just my opinion that a model should charge the most that works for her, whatever that number is.
JaneBurgess
10-24-2013, 04:16 PM
Frankly you can't sugar coat porn. It's not an industry of cuddly people and most are pretty blunt and don't care if you get offended. Well at least if you do photo or video shoots, camming might be different though. I always find it funny if you are an honest, strong women you are labeled a bitch or cunt. It's crazy that men get away with that shit but we can't.
I deal with the same type of thing I just say things how I observe them and because I am not one to "sugar" coat the truth of something I am told I am bitchy. The funny thing is my husband can say something and it will be fine and all I do is repeat him and I am a bitch. I really think it is a woman thing its okay for a man to be outspoken and frank but not a woman. Do not feel bad sometimes the truth is what it is and nothing can or will change that.
Jane I apologize for mistaking your ethnicity. It is something I take seriously and again I apologize. In no way do I take your correction as you taking offense, but I still feel my error requires an apology. I made an assumption I should not have.
Technically I'm Cuban, so not white even though I look it. There is no secret to charging higher, you pick the rate that reflects what you feel you are worth. Some people will pay and others won't. There are customers that won't get shows with performers that charge low, so it's hit and miss either way. I don't think phone or cam has anything to do with race at all. It has to do with are you good at what you do and can you get customers to come back. That's always been the secret to camming and phone sex. Customers come back if they like your show/hustle.
You should charge the rate you want but if everyone charges cheap rates it does effect the whole site. It tends to attract cheap customers and no one wants a site full of cheap customers. Fuck look at what is happening over at Streamate, it's not good at all.
JaneBurgess
10-24-2013, 04:35 PM
It's ok, I wasn't offended at all. :)
Jane I apologize for mistaking your ethnicity. It is something I take seriously and again I apologize. In no way do I take your correction as you taking offense, but I still feel my error requires an apology. I made an assumption I should not have.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-24-2013, 04:45 PM
@KortneyKay I sent you a pm. Please check it. I know sometimes mine don't come through with alerts.
dianecallaway
10-24-2013, 05:16 PM
I blog, use top sites, and tweet. I also have multiple characters so I do have non-black characters as well though. I put the least effort into the character that is actually me.
Do topsites still work well meaning when you track your traffic? I used to use them a lot most of the ones I used to use are gone so it would mean a lot of time link backing which I am ok with if there is a turn around. I blog but had to restart because blogger was nice enough to no longer allow "adult" blogs I tried tumblr but just did not like it at all now I have a wordpress which is doing pretty well I have it set to adult which was easy. I twitter and that i my biggest source out there.
Do topsites still work well meaning when you track your traffic? I used to use them a lot most of the ones I used to use are gone so it would mean a lot of time link backing which I am ok with if there is a turn around. I blog but had to restart because blogger was nice enough to no longer allow "adult" blogs I tried tumblr but just did not like it at all now I have a wordpress which is doing pretty well I have it set to adult which was easy. I twitter and that i my biggest source out there.
The I'm only on a few and there are really only two that I feel work well, they are both findomme topsites though. Twitter works for me as well. I haven't really used tumblr, I'm frankly not well versed on how it works at all. That blogger change was a PITA for a lot of people.
dianecallaway
10-24-2013, 05:27 PM
everyone is missing my point some girls work when they want to make x amount of dollars for something some girls work every day all day just like a job. Yeah you might get someone to call you at $4.99 a min but I was talking about consistent money that you can count on every day all day. I SERIOUSLY doubt that you can make $4.99 a min all day long every day. I have watched too many girls quit at that price because it is not consistent. Also bidding comes into play which is a HUGE ripoff yall can say what you want but I literally watched our listings go from position 9 on the site to position 36 on the site OVERNIGHT!!!! I guarantee we didnt mess anything up that bad in one day. I refuse to pay for my listing on a site especially one that I have put thousands and thousands of hours in. I am talking about consistent money the kind that you can say if I work 10 hours I should make x amount of dollars.
kortneykay
10-25-2013, 12:57 AM
I know we're talking about NF here but I think high prices vs. low depends on the customers and their budget, and the site's traffic. I can get away with charging $5.99/7.99 on a big box site, but it seems I can't get away with anything over $2.99/3.99 on indy sites like NF and CMD. Some girls can absolutely get away with it. I do better at $2.50 but depending on the clientele, some days are quite busy at $3.99 on my main listing, plus they purchase the skype/yahoo ID so it all depends. There are some girls who can get away with expensive rates all day, everyday, especially fetish/Dom listings.
As too how much one works I think it depends on your goals. I don't work NF every day. I have multiple characters which I know not everyone does that, but it enables me to hit multiple audiences. If one of my characters is slow the others usually do well, so that allows me to have consistency without ultra long hours, though I don't mind leaving my phone on all the time if I want extra money. If NF is slow for me for any reason I just cam more. I prefer phones but I shift my hours as needed to maintain a consistent income.
JaneBurgess
10-25-2013, 01:33 PM
The women I know on there that make bank are the financial dom or brats. God I wish I was good at that because guys pay them 9.99 a minute to be ignored on the phone call. I just ignore people for free. LOL
JaneBurgess
10-25-2013, 10:23 PM
They are pulling in at least a thousand a day. They post their stats on their Twitter and websites showing who sent them tributes or paid for long calls and then laugh at them for being losers. I am not sure how long they have been doing this but I sure wish I had heard about this princess stuff when I first started on NF.
What do you consider making bank Jane? When I say I do well on there I mean that I earn more than I initially thought I would, and faster. To me, making more than $150 a shift on NF would be especially pleasing. So it would be interesting to hear what other girls view as doing exceptionally well i.e. "making bank" on there.
DonaDiabla
10-25-2013, 10:52 PM
I don't think anyone said anyone was selling out by charging less, but I may have missed that moment in the thread.
Diane you do well in a way that works for you and that's awesome. Both Jane and Blondebomb mentioned charging higher, so maybe they will share their insight, as they are both Caucasian/White and as you pointed out in your post what you say may not apply to myself and others who are ethnic. Since you used being a black BBW femdom as an example and I am one, I can only respond that I do the same as most. I blog, use top sites, and tweet. I also have multiple characters so I do have non-black characters as well though. I put the least effort into the character that is actually me.
I have shared my knowledge on this board of what works for me, and I have reached out and offered personal help here to one or two ladies via PM. I have been in the adult business since the 90's a lot has changed and I don't rely on any one site for my entire income, I'm not personally comfortable with that. As with any thread, people need to take the advice that works best for them. If .99 cents works for someone and gets them what they want then they should charge that. If 9.99 gets them what they want then they should charge that. It depends on each girl and her hustle, rates will vary. It is my opinion, not fact just my opinion that a model should charge the most that works for her, whatever that number is.
Rina, I have learned many things from you since reading your posts about Niteflirt. I have multiple characters who are making money after reading your advice. I would like to say thank you because now I am making more money off Niteflirt :)
justanothercamgirl
10-26-2013, 08:27 AM
Rina, I have learned many things from you since reading your posts about Niteflirt. I have multiple characters who are making money after reading your advice. I would like to say thank you because now I am making more money off Niteflirt :)
I agree. Rina you are truly amazing!
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Aww thank you both Dona and JAC, you are both sweeties.
OK now that's definitely banking! Although I do wonder if much of that is just bravado, bigging themselves up to seem tougher/ more successful to potential customers and therefore more attractive?
Sometimes yes,it's bravado and sometimes it does happen for real.
islandsoutherngirl
10-26-2013, 02:07 PM
we get paid every day if you are on express pay which in reality is 3-4 times a week generally you get it within 4-5 days of when you make it but they have up to 10 BUSINESS days via what we agree to. I generally get money that I make over the weekend on Thurs or Friday. So it closes Sunday night/Monday morning and I get it later that week. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the clarification on this. I've had an account there for awhile now that I have yet to log on to. I am gathering that the money has to be DD to your bank and not to a Payoneer account?
dianecallaway
10-26-2013, 02:13 PM
I do not know anything about Payoneer but I do know you can use a prepaid credit card that is reloadable like the ones you get at walmart.
Thanks for the clarification on this. I've had an account there for awhile now that I have yet to log on to. I am gathering that the money has to be DD to your bank and not to a Payoneer account?
CummingCouple
10-26-2013, 02:17 PM
we are thinking about starting on NF. Would any of you say that as a PSO, NF is your best bet? I've heard of others but the thread listing them I found here was really old. Also, would you recommend a landline or magic jack more?
islandsoutherngirl
10-26-2013, 02:33 PM
I do not know anything about Payoneer but I do know you can use a prepaid credit card that is reloadable like the ones you get at walmart.
Thanks for the info. I do have a bank account but what I make from camming gets put on my Payoneer card. Just trying to find other ways to generate more revenue. I figure while I am online waiting for a show I could also be waiting for a call. Can't gain any experience if I don't make myself available right :-)
JaneBurgess
10-26-2013, 02:54 PM
No they really make that much, I know them personally. It did take them time though to build up a client list.
OK now that's definitely banking! Although I do wonder if much of that is just bravado, bigging themselves up to seem tougher/ more successful to potential customers and therefore more attractive?
Marajha
10-26-2013, 03:39 PM
From what I've read on PSO forums elsewhere, magic jack is the worst idea because apparently the quality of the call isn't good. I've seen some PSOs mention static and other weirdness. Haven't tried it myself, but maybe it'd be different for you. I'm personally getting a landline because my cell phone signal isn't always the greatest in my apartment and I don't want to risk dropped calls/bad feedback.
we are thinking about starting on NF. Would any of you say that as a PSO, NF is your best bet? I've heard of others but the thread listing them I found here was really old. Also, would you recommend a landline or magic jack more?
I've heard mixed reviews of magic jack. It might be risky to chance it. I use a cell or a landline.
JaneBurgess
10-26-2013, 08:24 PM
For those of you that don't want to bid, I'm number one right now in the cam section. I'm not saying that to brag I'm saying it to show you can not bid and still get a high spot. Post on Twitter, FB, Tumblr, make a blog, etc. Send yourself a shit load of traffic and then you dont have to bid.
redroberts
10-26-2013, 09:39 PM
Are any of you ladies strictly phone? And how is that working for u? I'm on SM so I'd live doing phone on my non cam days when I'm laying around watching Netflix lol
DonaDiabla
10-27-2013, 02:51 AM
we are thinking about starting on NF. Would any of you say that as a PSO, NF is your best bet? I've heard of others but the thread listing them I found here was really old. Also, would you recommend a landline or magic jack more?
It depends on if you are just starting out as a pso or if you are experience? I would recommend landline instead of magic jack but I always had a landline when doing pso work.
DonaDiabla
10-27-2013, 02:55 AM
Are any of you ladies strictly phone? And how is that working for u? I'm on SM so I'd live doing phone on my non cam days when I'm laying around watching Netflix lol
Red, I am still strictly phone and I must say that Niteflirt has been pretty good to me :)
redroberts
10-27-2013, 06:32 AM
Awesome good to know.
Snowy0Star
10-28-2013, 01:05 PM
For those of you who do just phone - what section do u make ur listing - "anything goes" or "women at home alone"? I'm planning on making a vanilla character and a bratty princess and putting that in fetish (or somewhere else if anyone has a better sugguestion =) ) but i dont know where i should put my vanilla character.
For those of you who do just phone - what section do u make ur listing - "anything goes" or "women at home alone"? I'm planning on making a vanilla character and a bratty princess and putting that in fetish (or somewhere else if anyone has a better sugguestion =) ) but i dont know where i should put my vanilla character.
Put her in all the Women Home Alone categories that she fits into. Anything Goes, Oral Sex, Sex Toys, BBW, etc. Whatever she fits in. You can have up to 10 listings per character give yourself as many chances to be seen as possible :)
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-28-2013, 01:10 PM
You can have about 21 or 22 listings. More than 10.
Snowy0Star
10-28-2013, 01:15 PM
Put her in all the Women Home Alone categories that she fits into. Anything Goes, Oral Sex, Sex Toys, BBW, etc. Whatever she fits in. You can have up to 10 listings per character give yourself as many chances to be seen as possible :)
You can have about 21 or 22 listings. More than 10.
I did know there was deeper then that i stopped and asked u guys before i went further into the links thanks guys =^y^=
You can have about 21 or 22 listings. More than 10.
Where did I get 10 from? Old rules maybe? LOL It's one recorded listing per topic and 20 recorded listings.
DonaDiabla
10-29-2013, 11:07 PM
For those of you who do just phone - what section do u make ur listing - "anything goes" or "women at home alone"? I'm planning on making a vanilla character and a bratty princess and putting that in fetish (or somewhere else if anyone has a better sugguestion =) ) but i dont know where i should put my vanilla character.
Snowy, you put your lovely character where she fits. Maybe have her do many different things such bratty princess to submissive to anything goes :)
Snowy0Star
10-29-2013, 11:14 PM
has anybody been able to get that $1 thing to make a flirt account with a payoneer card to work? it keeps saying the address dont match even tho im putting EXACTLY what it says on my account on my logging into my payoneer and making sure it was perfect. im thinking thats why their way of saying no to prepaid cards
Snowy I have made accounts with greendot and rush cards, both of those are prepaid. Maybe ask Nissim or send a note to Playfair.
charizma
10-30-2013, 07:56 AM
hello ...has niteflirt been dead for you the last few days ...my listing is one of teh top and i hardly get any calls...and i changed my picture and prices nothing works ...is it just me or any other girl is experiencing it...monday was fine and yesterday its just nothing ...:( please let me know
chloemay
10-30-2013, 10:23 AM
hello ...has niteflirt been dead for you the last few days ...my listing is one of teh top and i hardly get any calls...and i changed my picture and prices nothing works ...is it just me or any other girl is experiencing it...monday was fine and yesterday its just nothing ...:( please let me know
It's just like that sometimes. In this business it helps to work more than one site. To answer directly- today has been deadsville for me.
kortneykay
10-31-2013, 02:41 PM
It's been active for me even with guys buying my ID when I'm offline. Try sending out free minutes and messaging your customers on your skype/messenger listings, etc. Tell them if they buy a call you'll send them free minutes after.
JaneBurgess
10-31-2013, 03:21 PM
Ugh I meant to send out my Skype id to one guy and I accidentally sent it out in a mass message. Sigh and stupid ass me.
He calledme for a cam show not realizing NF uses Skype and Yahoo for cam, so I thought it was only fair to send him my IM info for free.
DonaDiabla
10-31-2013, 03:25 PM
Yes completely dead. I just posted in the private nf group about it actually x
It was dead for me for like one day but I started to blog and brought in more customers. However, these customers are like 2 min or 5 min men;D
chloemay
10-31-2013, 05:25 PM
It's been active for me even with guys buying my ID when I'm offline. Try sending out free minutes and messaging your customers on your skype/messenger listings, etc. Tell them if they buy a call you'll send them free minutes after.
Normally I would throw a free minute out to previous callers, but did you see in the forum some were being sent 3 times? That is a glitch that would suck very much so I don't know about dealing w that. In other news, that Cam Cat gif is too cute!