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HelenaVixen
11-14-2017, 06:11 AM
Hi Ladies! I keep seeing games on Niteflirt and I’m super down but I have no idea what type of games to play. Especially what type of games that I can charge for. I see “5 questions get to know me” but that’s about it. My best listing is my submissive bdsm listing so I have no idea what to play pertaining to that.

LolaLu
11-14-2017, 06:52 AM
What is ptv? x

Pay To View emails

Smurfette
11-14-2017, 12:07 PM
So, given the high amounts of $$ per click, some of these models must be bidding $50-$100 per day. Does that really happen or am I interpreting it wrong?

I'm about to bid now, but will it really make a difference if I bid .50 with a max of $5.00? That would give me 10 clicks, seems like getting even 1 call out of those 10 would be a pretty lucky break.

stormi
11-14-2017, 12:38 PM
What's the advantage for guys giving a tribute instead of calling for Phone w Cam listings.? Is it just easier to get a refund that way? Some guys say that they can't do calls and skype on their phones at the same time but others say they just prefer it. It's mad annoying because I clearly say I don't accept tributes for that.

I did try to search for this on the googles but have had no luck so sorry if this has been broached before.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-14-2017, 12:39 PM
I have a question... I haven't been on NF for a while but why do bids get high asf when it's slow? Most of the girls bidding $1-2 per click already have high ass LVS won't they get found before everyone else on the site? Thats a major turn off for me when I see bids in sub-cats at 1.99 up till the 25 placement.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-14-2017, 12:43 PM
You're not allowed to receive tributes in exchange for Skype/phone shows. It's somewhere in their TOS

Smurfette
11-14-2017, 03:59 PM
Sorry for all the newb questions, but in my customer list it shows "mail sent" from two separate guys. However, I never got any mail from them. Is this a glitch or does this mean they clicked on "Buy Skype ID" or other purchase buttons but didn't actually make the purchase?

CatBBW
11-14-2017, 05:26 PM
ARGH. Received a call tonight which came through with the recorded info message "Fem Dommes". I asked a couple of Qs then he hung up. The actual listing was *a certain thing that I definitely didn't give him*. So am I supposed to remember the listing titles for each call? So when it comes through and the auto message says "Fem Dommes" I am sposed to remember that it was *a certain thing* ??

How does everyone else manage this? Lists? Folders or ring binders with sub sections? How? :-[


(I am still SO new to NF, even though I've been signed up forever :-[ )

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-14-2017, 06:16 PM
Sorry for all the newb questions, but in my customer list it shows "mail sent" from two separate guys. However, I never got any mail from them. Is this a glitch or does this mean they clicked on "Buy Skype ID" or other purchase buttons but didn't actually make the purchase?

Yup! That's exactly what it means. You should be able to see which button it was and send a follow up email inviting him to follow through.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-14-2017, 06:27 PM
ARGH. Received a call tonight which came through with the recorded info message "Fem Dommes". I asked a couple of Qs then he hung up. The actual listing was *a certain thing that I definitely didn't give him*. So am I supposed to remember the listing titles for each call? So when it comes through and the auto message says "Fem Dommes" I am sposed to remember that it was *a certain thing* ??

How does everyone else manage this? Lists? Folders or ring binders with sub sections? How? :-[


(I am still SO new to NF, even though I've been signed up forever :-[ )

Maybe you're thinking too much? They don't always call because of the wording in your listing or for that thing that you do that you were trying to highlight in your listing. It may have been enough for him that you were in the Fetish category and from there the call can go in any direction. Even though I may have listings in leather and latex, I will still get calls that don't talk about that at all. They may just want to talk about pegging or they just want to describe the sexy outfit that they're wearing. In that case he could have called a listing in the feminization category, but he didn't.

I think when it comes to a new call it's best to keep things open instead of sticking to the literal meaning behind the category name. After the call is done , THEN I add them to the appropriate customer list and I make notes on his account. Sometimes I make notes while still on the call.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-14-2017, 06:35 PM
What's the advantage for guys giving a tribute instead of calling for Phone w Cam listings.? Is it just easier to get a refund that way? Some guys say that they can't do calls and skype on their phones at the same time but others say they just prefer it. It's mad annoying because I clearly say I don't accept tributes for that.

I did try to search for this on the googles but have had no luck so sorry if this has been broached before.


You're not allowed to receive tributes in exchange for Skype/phone shows. It's somewhere in their TOS

NF doesn't want flirts to accept tributes for skype shows because it's more difficult to prove a chargeback is fraudulent without proof of a phone call that keeps a record of call length. From the customers perspective block sessions are more convenient. I hope they release the video chat feature on NF soon. That would be a major game changer for cammodels.

stormi
11-14-2017, 08:04 PM
NF doesn't want flirts to accept tributes for skype shows because it's more difficult to prove a chargeback is fraudulent without proof of a phone call that keeps a record of call length. From the customers perspective block sessions are more convenient. I hope they release the video chat feature on NF soon. That would be a major game changer for cammodels.

I hope they release a video chat or plugin soon too. It's so annoying to see a guy bought my ID on a listing wherein I clearly state I don't take tributes, then msg me to ask if I will take a tribute for a show. >.<

Magical_Hoohah
11-15-2017, 07:27 AM
Some guys say that they can't do calls and skype on their phones at the same time
This is a legit problem (not that you should take tributes because of it, just saying that it isn't a total bullshit excuse). Does anyone know a way around that for guys that want to do phone with cam on their phones? Sometimes they want to play "You be tech support and tell me how to fix this," and I don't have a fucking clue what to tell them.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-15-2017, 04:02 PM
Hey @PhatGirlDynomite so if I've been setting an account to daily pay and change it to monthly direct deposit on the 1st it'll automatically hit my account the next day?

foxirox
11-15-2017, 04:52 PM
^ I get daily pay now. TSB charge only £5 btw, but every bank i used took forever. Thank you for the goodbag tips x

This is Amazing news! Excuse my ignorance though, but who is Colin? :)

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-15-2017, 05:35 PM
Hey @PhatGirlDynomite so if I've been setting an account to daily pay and change it to monthly direct deposit on the 1st it'll automatically hit my account the next day?

I believe I switched mine over a week before the end of the month? But I don't think that you go bank into a ten business day hold after the initial setup. I sometimes hold my payouts and everytime I realease the hold everything is pulled at the next express pay schedule. So it may work out for you if you wait until the last min. it may not?

I use Netspend for my monthly direct deposits and it comes on the 2nd each month late at night at 11:13pm. I get several affiliate payouts from other businesses and they all hit at the exact same time every week, to the minute. Netspend is very quick when processing payments. Some institutions may take longer.

JaceyLynn
11-15-2017, 05:47 PM
^ I love my netspend card

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-15-2017, 08:55 PM
Hmmm I'm currently with a local credit Union and Bank of America... I think after I pay my credit card off I'll close my account and get a netspend account. I've been hearing about them and greendot.

Rina
11-15-2017, 10:18 PM
I have a question... I haven't been on NF for a while but why do bids get high asf when it's slow? Most of the girls bidding $1-2 per click already have high ass LVS won't they get found before everyone else on the site? Thats a major turn off for me when I see bids in sub-cats at 1.99 up till the 25 placement.

Girls with high LVS aren't paying $1-$2 per click. What's paid per click is determined by LVS. I have different accounts in the same categories and one 1 account it's literally.04 cents to be number 1 in find women on another it's 2.75 or something crazy. So the price you see for the number 1 spot is your price and mught be entirely different from another flirts. When I have low LVS on a listing I just bid to be in maybe the 3rd page of the subcat, then I hit twitter and try to bring in some new guys. Don't get discouraged. You can raise your LVS and get better placement. Niteflirt is up and down somedays you make $400 and some days you make $4. Also when it's slow try making and promoting some MP3s sometimes that can bring in callers.

Also if you only have one account it's worth investing in content and making two more. Usually if one of my girls is slow the others will make it up.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-15-2017, 10:59 PM
@Rina thank you. I'm trying to get going on Niteflirt after having a bunch of weird 2 minuet calls for a month or so. So I haven't built up LVS with any listing on any profile yet. But I'll hopefully make my mark next year! But the fake girls I have about 8 lol along with my real Domme profile. I have like 3 of the fake ones set up along with my main one, and of course my white girls got more calls lol. Should I make a twitter for them? I'd just be making PTV's for them and audios.. And lol btw fun fact one guy faved all three of my Domme characters like back to back one day, hilarious ;D. I hope he finds the one he likes lol

LolaLu
11-16-2017, 03:48 AM
This is Amazing news! Excuse my ignorance though, but who is Colin? :)


Colin is the guy that runs the Daily Pay group. It's not rolled out to all though so many of us are still getting cheques :-(

foxirox
11-16-2017, 04:02 AM
Ah I see...That's a shame. Hope it will be soon though! Would literally kill to get dailypay right now, especially with the lead up to Christmas.

Rina
11-16-2017, 07:51 PM
@Rina thank you. I'm trying to get going on Niteflirt after having a bunch of weird 2 minuet calls for a month or so. So I haven't built up LVS with any listing on any profile yet. But I'll hopefully make my mark next year! But the fake girls I have about 8 lol along with my real Domme profile. I have like 3 of the fake ones set up along with my main one, and of course my white girls got more calls lol. Should I make a twitter for them? I'd just be making PTV's for them and audios.. And lol btw fun fact one guy faved all three of my Domme characters like back to back one day, hilarious ;D. I hope he finds the one he likes lol

I don't do social media for my content girls but I have blogs for them and blogging really helps with getting pso customers.You'll do it. NF takes time to build up but it's worth it. You make plenty with just calls and audios. I had a guy call me on two different accounts back to back. He calls both of my content girls regularly. If he likes it I love it.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-16-2017, 08:13 PM
What type of blog drives more traffic? Blogspot or Wordpress?

ravenskyy
11-16-2017, 08:59 PM
I'm still not making anything on this site. I haven't had calls in weeks, just random chat messages. I need more exposure for my characters and listings. Not worth it for me to create content when I have no one to sell too. How exactly do blogs help? I know nothing about that stuff. Seriously can't wait until April, when I can drop all of this and go back to dancing. I feel like I am good on the phone and cam, but terrible with advertising and getting customers.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-16-2017, 09:04 PM
What type of blog drives more traffic? Blogspot or Wordpress?

A self hosted blog is gonna be your best option, I feel. If you use a blogging platform like blogger, tumblr, wordpress.com you run the risk of getting your stuff deleted. I have tumblrs in addition to self hosted, but that's because I particularly like that community.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-16-2017, 11:20 PM
Is the affiliate program still a thing y'all use? And @ravenskyy don't worry I feel the way you do about phone sex but with stripping and web camming. Lol sometimes we can't be the jack of all trades, and adaptation isn't as quick as we want it to be.

seashell
11-17-2017, 04:20 AM
I want to have more than one character... is it a bad idea to use pics of myself with all of them, just in different themed outfits (mistress/submissive/college brat/etc)? Aaaaaand since I also cam, could I re-use those pics elsewhere?

I know a lot of successful PSO ladies use pics of other girls, so just curious!

HelenaVixen
11-17-2017, 08:07 AM
For ladies with another account for another character:
This might be a stupid question but can you be logged in on both accounts at the same time? Or do I have to alternate?
I wanted to make a mistress type of character since I have a lot of submissive reviews on my account and not much else. I don’t think I should have a mistress listing on this profile since to me that comes off as confusing.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-17-2017, 08:26 AM
@HelenaVixen yes it's good to make two separate accounts! You want to make sure you specialize yourself with one thing on your sub, and Domme account. Since you already have a sub account and it's probably very well established you can let future callers know what your submissive specialties are. :-* And as a Domme you find your Niche as you find put your client base.

You can be logged into two accounts at once, you can do it the hard way like I did and put them in two different browsers and flip flop orrrrrrr you can go and download this extension called "Session Box" on Google Chrome or Opera and you can run as many accounts at the same time as you like and being logged in all in one browser. Hope this helped. :cloud9:

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-17-2017, 08:30 AM
@seashell I don't particularly think it's a bad Idea ONLY if you've been advertising or will start advertising that you're a switch when it comes to be a submissive and a Domme using the same pictures. Now when it comes to college girl, MILF, Therapist, etc. I'd (IMO) personally get different pictures because the fantasy will collide at some point if you try to wear all the hats. That's why we have lovely models who do the work for us and we pay for their lovely content!:slaphappy

HelenaVixen
11-17-2017, 09:38 AM
@HelenaVixen yes it's good to make two separate accounts! You want to make sure you specialize yourself with one thing on your sub, and Domme account. Since you already have a sub account and it's probably very well established you can let future callers know what your submissive specialties are. :-* And as a Domme you find your Niche as you find put your client base.

You can be logged into two accounts at once, you can do it the hard way like I did and put them in two different browsers and flip flop orrrrrrr you can go and download this extension called "Session Box" on Google Chrome or Opera and you can run as many accounts at the same time as you like and being logged in all in one browser. Hope this helped. :cloud9:


Thank you so so much! You ladies are so helpful on this site , I am extremely grateful ❤️❤️❤️

LaceyCummings
11-17-2017, 11:43 AM
I'm confused because I get so many emails from guys thinking they can tribute to get my skype id rather than calling my line. 9/10 times when I tell them they must call to get it, they bounce. is this allowed? It doesn't make sense to me. Do other cam models do this? If so, what is normal to charge?

sexysusie
11-17-2017, 12:21 PM
As far as I'm aware NF don't allow using tributes for cam shows. If you did one and the guy charged back or was a dick etc you'd get no support from the site. I'm not sure why they do this either, I think sometimes they genuinely have no idea!

EricaErotica
11-17-2017, 12:40 PM
A customer can tribute you for your Skype ID. He CANNOT tribute you for a Skype Show/Phone With Cam Call. There is a difference.

Make sure that the price you are asking for your Skype ID is not too high. Also include a written disclaimer when you email him your Skype ID stating that he has paid just for your Skype ID and not for ANYTHING ELSE!!! That way you are covered in case a dispute arises. Some callers think by purchasing your Skype ID they are getting cam or texting services. Let him know that this IS NOT what he is receiving.


I'm confused because I get so many emails from guys thinking they can tribute to get my skype id rather than calling my line. 9/10 times when I tell them they must call to get it, they bounce. is this allowed? It doesn't make sense to me. Do other cam models do this? If so, what is normal to charge?

Smurfette
11-17-2017, 01:12 PM
When you're on Niteflirt and camming at the same time (SM or wherever), do you select "Away" every time you get a private or just leave it on and ignore if the phone rings, then send a mail to the guy afterwards?

xCamLovex
11-17-2017, 01:58 PM
I have to say Niteflirt has to get a grip on the chat.

I woke up to 60+ messages from a guy who sent me high res pics of him in countless lingerie outfits.

Guess what? It's not any of our jobs to look at pics because we are phone sex operators.
49140

.45 cents for this nonsense that in my opinion, is getting worse because guys notice this loophole.

No way to shut chat off.

No way to charge for pic messages.

After the thrill of exposing themselves for .45 cents do you think they are really going to call?

They've already busted a perverted nut upon clicking send.

I applaud girls trying to convert using this stupid sorry method...but it's just a waste of productivity IMO because Niteflirt isn't doing anything to improve the system to make it worth OUR effort.

Rina
11-17-2017, 02:50 PM
A self hosted blog is gonna be your best option, I feel. If you use a blogging platform like blogger, tumblr, wordpress.com you run the risk of getting your stuff deleted. I have tumblrs in addition to self hosted, but that's because I particularly like that community.

Exactly self-hosted blogs all the way. I SEO my blogs and I post things that guys who are into femdom would want to read. In the begining I posted almost daily now once a week. I also post when i have a new ptv or audio. It takes time to build a client base in PSO it's different from cam in that it's a slower start but I've found it well worth it. So post cintent related to your niche link your NF in every post and be consistent with it. In time you'll see calls and money increase. Blogging is particularly helpful if you have content chracters because you can't rely much on constantly posting pics. I have known some crazy succesful pso's who don't use pics at all. Hell I have one account with know face pics. it's never on the first page but my blog brings in guys and they talk for long amounts of time.

seashell
11-17-2017, 03:13 PM
I have to say Niteflirt has to get a grip on the chat.

I woke up to 60+ messages from a guy who sent me high res pics of him in countless lingerie outfits.

Guess what? It's not any of our jobs to look at pics because we are phone sex operators.
49140

.45 cents for this nonsense that in my opinion, is getting worse because guys notice this loophole.

No way to shut chat off.

No way to charge for pic messages.

After the thrill of exposing themselves for .45 cents do you think they are really going to call?

They've already busted a perverted nut upon clicking send.

I applaud girls trying to convert using this stupid sorry method...but it's just a waste of productivity IMO because Niteflirt isn't doing anything to improve the system to make it worth OUR effort.

Completely agree. We're here to get paid for putting on a show, not to be bombarded with unsolicited dick pics the very moment we log in.

xCamLovex
11-17-2017, 03:39 PM
We are here to get money fairly y’all.

I also don’t know what the purpose of being seen online is..

So we can be bombarded with more pics and harassment for no pay?

Common Niteflirt.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-17-2017, 04:02 PM
Have you guys submitted support tickets telling them how you feel about the chat? I havent been on the NF forums in awhile.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-17-2017, 04:22 PM
Exactly self-hosted blogs all the way. I SEO my blogs and I post things that guys who are into femdom would want to read. In the begining I posted almost daily now once a week. I also post when i have a new ptv or audio. It takes time to build a client base in PSO it's different from cam in that it's a slower start but I've found it well worth it. So post cintent related to your niche link your NF in every post and be consistent with it. In time you'll see calls and money increase. Blogging is particularly helpful if you have content chracters because you can't rely much on constantly posting pics. I have known some crazy succesful pso's who don't use pics at all. Hell I have one account with know face pics. it's never on the first page but my blog brings in guys and they talk for long amounts of time.

When it comes to blogging its either go hard or go home. Especially in the beginning. Blog Blog Blog everyday. Even if you don't know what you're doing. Just do it anyway. Write about that bomb ass bowl of soup you had for lunch. The time you locked your keys in the car, with the car still running. It doesn't always have to be about sexy stuff. In between the mundane create a post about a new product. When I look back at my first blog, I laugh my ass off at the topics and the way it looks. It's my homage to the myspace days and I will never give it a facelift. And it still performs. For those of you wondering if blogging really pays off, think about it this way..how often do you post here on SW a week? A day? How many other places online do you post? Try writing those thoughts and ideas down on a blog then watch. I would try to stay away from the doom and gloom topics about being lost and in need of money. Unless you're trying to create a non-sexwork blog.

Eventually the search engines will start to pick up your content by indexing it and making you more visible to traffic. There are things that you can do that can make this occur regularly and at a faster pace, but even then those theories are constantly changing and can seem intangible to some people. For me it's mostly been about trial and error. I figured out what worked for me and then I did some comparisons alongside what google updates said they were looking for and it turned out I was on to something. Everything I just wrote adds up to 300 words. That's a blog post.

LolaLu
11-18-2017, 02:27 AM
Do you have any recommendations on what sites to host on? I know you say self hosting, but I dont know what that means lol x

leiaswift
11-18-2017, 06:20 AM
I am having a lot of trouble running skype right now.

What alternatives are there to skype for the "phone with cam" category speakers?

grneyesnfl
11-18-2017, 08:07 AM
There's a survey Erin wants everyone to fill out regarding the new chat system. It's located in the NEW CHAT UPDATES thread. They're actually thinking about using Featured Listings for the chat cards and wanted to know our opinion. Some people pay a lot to be on the first couple of pages. Could you imagine having to bid for your chat card to be seen, too? No thanks!

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-18-2017, 09:50 AM
There's a survey Erin wants everyone to fill out regarding the new chat system. It's located in the NEW CHAT UPDATES thread. They're actually thinking about using Featured Listings for the chat cards and wanted to know our opinion. Some people pay a lot to be on the first couple of pages. Could you imagine having to bid for your chat card to be seen, too? No thanks!

Yeah fuck no! More hassle trying to get seen and girls gonna be breaking the bank even more than with their fucking $1-2 bids in the sub cat up to the 25 position no thanks.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-18-2017, 09:57 AM
Can we do a vote where we delete all those old high profile flirts that don't use Niteflirt anymore accounts? And the excessive ones that obviously haven't been used in months? I like that Idea better I think it'll free up Niteflirt a bit. I hope I don't sound jelly lol. But I even see chicks with 5,000 reviews lower their phone rate to .99-1.69 I wonder if it's because they fell off their momentum in retaining clients or thats the only character they have? This is a loaded thought lol.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-18-2017, 01:00 PM
Can we do a vote where we delete all those old high profile flirts that don't use Niteflirt anymore accounts? And the excessive ones that obviously haven't been used in months? I like that Idea better I think it'll free up Niteflirt a bit. I hope I don't sound jelly lol. But I even see chicks with 5,000 reviews lower their phone rate to .99-1.69 I wonder if it's because they fell off their momentum in retaining clients or thats the only character they have? This is a loaded thought lol.

NF will unapprove ypur lisyings after som period of inactivity. Maybe its a year? I can't remember. They didnt use to do that at all. And regarding price points, keep in mind that person charging .99 cents or lower who may also have accounts charging 5.99 a minute or higher. And one more thing not all successful listings have a ton of feedback. Many of my best customers leave tips instead. :) They've said to me on several occasions that leaving a written review causes problems with other flirts.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-18-2017, 01:50 PM
NF will unapprove ypur lisyings after som period of inactivity. Maybe its a year? I can't remember. They didnt use to do that at all. And regarding price points, keep in mind that person charging .99 cents or lower who may also have accounts charging 5.99 a minute or higher. And one more thing not all successful listings have a ton of feedback. Many of my best customers leave tips instead. :) They've said to me on several occasions that leaving a written review causes problems with other flirts.

Interesting point. I can totally see that. Hell my motivation is totally amped up now that Boleyn Models has added Niteflirt to daily pay! I can't wait to make NF my big egg next year and really spend time on it making audios, MP3s, PTVs, and use it to it's max potential. I have MILFs, subs, dommes, switches, brats... You name it I got it! I feel like if I had goodies, etc. it'd give the caller more insight on what type of girl I am and help them decide if they want to call me. I can see that eliminating preconceived notions, cut down on weird 2 min calls, and also put money in my pocket at the same time.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-18-2017, 04:10 PM
Exactly self-hosted blogs all the way. I SEO my blogs and I post things that guys who are into femdom would want to read. In the begining I posted almost daily now once a week. I also post when i have a new ptv or audio. It takes time to build a client base in PSO it's different from cam in that it's a slower start but I've found it well worth it. So post cintent related to your niche link your NF in every post and be consistent with it. In time you'll see calls and money increase. Blogging is particularly helpful if you have content chracters because you can't rely much on constantly posting pics. I have known some crazy succesful pso's who don't use pics at all. Hell I have one account with know face pics. it's never on the first page but my blog brings in guys and they talk for long amounts of time.

With SEO would it be good to use this as reference: ? If so do you have any other links that you'd recommend on helping a site get to it's potential? And since I have multiple girls I've been looking at HostGator and thinking about hosting multiple blogs for the girls from there. Along with my website I plan to open for my real Domme persona.