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PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-18-2017, 04:48 PM
I am having a lot of trouble running skype right now.

What alternatives are there to skype for the "phone with cam" category speakers?

Im having some issues with skype as well and two other people I know. Lately Ive been using discord more and more. An article for you Cammodels Use Discord Instead Of Skype (https://admin.boleynmodels.com/ref?page=blog/discord-the-new-skype-alternative-for-cammodels&affToken=NTc2)

PSOcodemonkey
11-18-2017, 05:06 PM
And one more thing not all successful listings have a ton of feedback.

Yep. Same with profiles. Many profiles have tons of private listings, thus listings that show are not the whole story of the popularity of profile.

JaneBurgess
11-18-2017, 07:59 PM
On my cam profiles I make guys either buy my ID or call for it. Im sick of guys that search for me on Skype and expect me to talk with them for free. If you cant pay for an ID or call me, you dont need to be contacting me on Skype

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-18-2017, 08:14 PM
What do y'all usually charge for y'all ID? Just whatever seems fit?

laurielegs
11-18-2017, 11:35 PM
What do y'all usually charge for y'all ID? Just whatever seems fit?

I've stopped charging for mine because I often would get guys wasting my time trying to chat for free, thinking because they paid a few dollars that means I am obligated to chat.

I give it to them free if they message me and ask what theirs is, make a note of it in customer notes, then inform them I will add them as soon as they make a call. If they don't get it before calling I just tell them verbally on the call.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-19-2017, 12:48 AM
Here's the survey for chat. It says only 45 people took it. That's kinda low. Not many people bother to check the forums so in case you couldn't find the link (took me 10 mins) here it is https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZFXMVGQ

PSOcodemonkey
11-19-2017, 07:06 AM
Here's the survey for chat. It says only 45 people took it. That's kinda low. Not many people bother to check the forums so in case you couldn't find the link (took me 10 mins) here it is https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZFXMVGQ

Sadly, the first question does not have the option for "I don't currently use chat". I don't use chat on NF, and would love to participate in the survey so as they get why I don't. They will only hear from people who think that how chat is currently set up was worth signing up for (since they did). It needs some changes before I would sign up, but I will not be able to fill out the survey. Oh well.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-19-2017, 10:07 AM
I just sent the links to a few Flirt friends of mine to spread the word!

Destinylonghair
11-19-2017, 01:40 PM
I have yet to receive a message call chat or anything on nf. Idk what I’m doing wrong.

seashell
11-19-2017, 01:48 PM
I have yet to receive a message call chat or anything on nf. Idk what I’m doing wrong.

Have you read through this thread? That is a common problem a lot of have when we start out, since NF pretty much requires you to bring your own traffic and/or bid, to get those first calls and reviews. I'd suggest doing some research on how to make your profile/listings stand out, how to market yourself, and how bidding works.

Destinylonghair
11-19-2017, 02:44 PM
Are there any pso jobs that do t require girls to bring their own traffic?

sexysusie
11-19-2017, 04:33 PM
Sadly, the first question does not have the option for "I don't currently use chat". I don't use chat on NF, and would love to participate in the survey so as they get why I don't. They will only hear from people who think that how chat is currently set up was worth signing up for (since they did). It needs some changes before I would sign up, but I will not be able to fill out the survey. Oh well.

I can't use it properly either as we are not meant to be able to sign up with UK numbers. However I did manage to sign up and have been using it but I never really get many messages, presumably because they don't show non us models on the chat page (??) Anyways I filled out the survey and just used the comment boxes to tell them this and my other thoughts. So it's worth doing just so they get your feedback.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-19-2017, 04:41 PM
Are there any pso jobs that do t require girls to bring their own traffic?

You can use USLove They're currently hiring, they're a dispatch company I'm not sure what their rates are. A lot of girls work with Niteflirt because even though they have to bring their own traffic that's why they're getting paid 70% instead of like 35%. Some people aren't into making the character, setting up their listings, setting a price per line, bidding, and making goody bags and thats fine. But even most dispatch companies have the girls do something like write a blog of some sort. But of course there are pro's and con's to working Indie or through a company.

DonaDiabla
11-19-2017, 04:51 PM
USLove pays 4 dollars per 15 min block for new customers and 5 dollars per 15 min block for repeat customers. Uslove has their own blogs and allows for you to advertise outside of them to gain more clientele. However, many dispatch psos still advertise their characters outside of their companies if it is allowed in order to gain the advantage. Personally, I have no problem with marketing and advertising my characters with dispatch, platforms, nor my direct-dial business :)



You can use USLove They're currently hiring, they're a dispatch company I'm not sure what their rates are. A lot of girls work with Niteflirt because even though they have to bring their own traffic that's why they're getting paid 70% instead of like 35%. Some people aren't into making the character, setting up their listings, setting a price per line, bidding, and making goody bags and thats fine. But even most dispatch companies have the girls do something like write a blog of some sort. But of course there are pro's and con's to working Indie or through a company.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-20-2017, 04:05 PM
Still kinda ticked off that Boleyn Models isn't opening Niteflirt up to those who make more than 50% of their income from it... I'm tired of waiting 3-5 days playing the guessing game of when my money is going to come. I make fair amount of money when I do hop on, but it's a shame Talk to me has a more dependable deposit schedule than NF... Smh I planed on Using them for NF first thing next year but she Said it won't be available to all for a while... Unless you use them more for camming and Phone sex on the side. :( FYI I hate camming lol so this was supposed to be my momentum to get my ass to work on my PSO skills lol, but I still will anyway.
P.S. I'm an impatient ass Aries ;)

DonaDiabla
11-20-2017, 04:22 PM
Is anyone marketing their Niteflirt profiles via Instagram? :)

caramelcraze
11-20-2017, 10:23 PM
Anyone having a bunch of calls drop anytime they try to pick up? my calls keep disconnecting before I can pick up or when I do, i get a loud screeching feedback noise. never had this happen before...

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-20-2017, 10:30 PM
I heard that's been a problem going on for a lot of flirts on the forums they've been talking about that happening. Me personally haven't had that happen :beady:

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-21-2017, 02:29 AM
Anyone having a bunch of calls drop anytime they try to pick up? my calls keep disconnecting before I can pick up or when I do, i get a loud screeching feedback noise. never had this happen before...

Ive been getting the dead air issue. They can hear me but I can't hear them No screeching.

caramelcraze
11-21-2017, 03:47 AM
hmm ok

MsMeta
11-22-2017, 12:40 PM
Is NF busy over the holidays? In the past my day jobs were busy during Nov-Dec so I usually took a hiatus from NF during that time. Now I have the time but not sure what the traffic will be like.

missxxxsabrina
11-22-2017, 03:07 PM
has niteflirt been super slow the last couple days for anyone else? I was doing so good at the start of the month but now it seems the traffic is so slow. I don't know if it's maybe cause Thanksgiving is approaching? I am in the transsexual section and it's usually busy.

MaryElizabeth
11-23-2017, 02:12 AM
Question if anyone knows, thank you.

So I set up a second profile on NF with 3 listings, same banking info, same phone number, same email, same password - everything. For the first I sign in with Google Chrome browser for the second the Opera browser. I can sign out of one and the other stays available.

Do they compress at some point? Is there a way do to this? Do I have to get another browser going when I set up a third character? I am planning on more characters and trying to figure out the logistics of it. Things are a bit of information management at this point anyway (NF, TTM, occasionally USL) but I envision things getting overly hectic if I add half a dozen browsers for NF characters.

Thank you / Appreciated.
mm

seashell
11-23-2017, 02:31 AM
Question if anyone knows, thank you.

So I set up a second profile on NF with 3 listings, same banking info, same phone number, same email, same password - everything. For the first I sign in with Google Chrome browser for the second the Opera browser. I can sign out of one and the other stays available.

Do they compress at some point? Is there a way do to this? Do I have to get another browser going when I set up a third character? I am planning on more characters and trying to figure out the logistics of it. Things are a bit of information management at this point anyway (NF, TTM, occasionally USL) but I envision things getting overly hectic if I add half a dozen browsers for NF characters.

Thank you / Appreciated.
mm
Someone recommended the SessionBox extension earlier, for logging into multiple logins. I downloaded it for Chrome, but haven’t tried it yet.

MaryElizabeth
11-23-2017, 09:06 AM
That's close enough, I use chrome for all the calls/services. Thank you very much.

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It's odd that for a job that is mostly talking how much time I spend doing digital stuff.

- Audacity for recording and making audios (editing and a little background music sometimes that I mix in)

- HTML , there is always this for the listings pages,

- Photoshop / illustrator for making letterings / banners / glossing up images. Thankfully there are online services to make gif's

- then there is all the assorted stuff like storing images I use in gdrive, google hangouts, browsers log ins, the customer lists in NF,
emails, chats, password management, text expander...

If a gal can't do digital (let alone have the 'gift of gab' and entertain a guy for a hour) I don't know how people could make this work.

Have a safe and happy holiday
mm

LaurenAus
11-23-2017, 01:42 PM
That's close enough, I use chrome for all the calls/services. Thank you very much.

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It's odd that for a job that is mostly talking how much time I spend doing digital stuff.

- Audacity for recording and making audios (editing and a little background music sometimes that I mix in)

- HTML , there is always this for the listings pages,

- Photoshop / illustrator for making letterings / banners / glossing up images. Thankfully there are online services to make gif's

- then there is all the assorted stuff like storing images I use in gdrive, google hangouts, browsers log ins, the customer lists in NF,
emails, chats, password management.

If a gal can't do digital (let alone have the 'gift of gab' and entertain a guy for a hour) I don't know how people could make this work.

Have a safe and happy holiday
mm


Is the money worth it??? Lol

seashell
11-23-2017, 02:10 PM
Is the money worth it??? Lol

I think it is. NF has high earning potential, you just have to invest a lot of time in setting up your profiles, goody bags, and coming up with a marketing strategy. But after that, you get to reap the benefits.

MaryElizabeth
11-23-2017, 03:05 PM
>Is the money worth it??? Lol

Fuck yes, last week: $825

One profile, starting others
49162

TTM
49163

USL about a hundred a week
49164

sexysusie
11-23-2017, 09:19 PM
I've been on here years on and off and love it re calls. But I';ve never made the most of the content potential. I have a few clips and pic sets up that sell ok. Is there a good guide anywhere as to how to really maximise on your profiles? I am looking into findom and humiliation games atm and trying to work out if pay to views would work. Seashell would love to know how you come up with a marketing strategy for nf? I'm clueless haha. On AW i just chucked a load of vids and galleries up and update them occasionally and they sell. NF seems a bit more overwhelming.

foxirox
11-23-2017, 11:07 PM
I've been on here years on and off and love it re calls. But I';ve never made the most of the content potential. I have a few clips and pic sets up that sell ok. Is there a good guide anywhere as to how to really maximise on your profiles? I am looking into findom and humiliation games atm and trying to work out if pay to views would work. Seashell would love to know how you come up with a marketing strategy for nf? I'm clueless haha. On AW i just chucked a load of vids and galleries up and update them occasionally and they sell. NF seems a bit more overwhelming.


I'm probably not the best person to answer this as I haven't been on NF long, but I'm having some success since I started to make MP3's last week for my findom listing. I think what is working okay for me is finding that niche within a category. I offer a ' Findom cure' via Hypnosis and make MP3's to sell. I don't know of any flirts doing that so I just experimented with it. I also make a cheap voice sample and send it out to everyone who adds me to their favourites list. 9 times out of 10 they buy that, then I just send them more and more of my MP3's.

I'm going to start making more videos and market them out also. I'm still pretty new, so would love to know how to attract the a real whale lol. (Seem to be a lot of fake findom guys out there!)

coco789
11-23-2017, 11:08 PM
>Is the money worth it??? Lol

Fuck yes, last week: $825

One profile, starting others
49162

TTM
49163

USL about a hundred a week
49164
Hi what's USL?

sexysusie
11-23-2017, 11:45 PM
I'm probably not the best person to answer this as I haven't been on NF long, but I'm having some success since I started to make MP3's last week for my findom listing. I think what is working okay for me is finding that niche within a category. I offer a ' Findom cure' via Hypnosis and make MP3's to sell. I don't know of any flirts doing that so I just experimented with it. I also make a cheap voice sample and send it out to everyone who adds me to their favourites list. 9 times out of 10 they buy that, then I just send them more and more of my MP3's.

I'm going to start making more videos and market them out also. I'm still pretty new, so would love to know how to attract the a real whale lol. (Seem to be a lot of fake findom guys out there!)

Thanks sweetie. Your idea for mp3's sounds like it is working for you. So you send them your voice sample as a ptv and then if they buy it you send them more? I just made a load of findom 'game of chance' ptv's so i might try doing similar with those x

sexysusie
11-24-2017, 12:25 AM
How do we see who have favourited us?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-24-2017, 12:43 AM
How do we see who have favourited us?

I'm surprised that you haven't noticed this before. Its shown right there in your dashboard as soon as you select "My Account" up top.

http://www.camhustlers.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/nf_favorited.jpg

And Niteflirt doesn't separate people based on location. If you aren't getting chat request it's because of something else. All flirts are mixed in together. I have a customer account and can see who's available for chat and there are hundreds of people offering chat services. But the listing sort is a mess. Doesn't make sense because I went through pages before I saw flirts that were listed as available? Also ladies if you're getting alot of text pics from customers you might not want to take it out on them. NF kinda encouraged it.

Like all communications on NiteFlirt, we never reveal your personal information to others, and this includes Chat! We even remove all personally identifying information (Exif data) from photos, so it's safe to exchange photos via Chat.

foxirox
11-24-2017, 01:19 AM
Thanks sweetie. Your idea for mp3's sounds like it is working for you. So you send them your voice sample as a ptv and then if they buy it you send them more? I just made a load of findom 'game of chance' ptv's so i might try doing similar with those x

Yeah...so basically, I send them a sample voice Hypnosis for 0.99 then if they buy that, I'll send them the next one, upping the price each time. I also have the MP3's on my listing, and guys have purchased straight from there. Just a tip if you haven't already, use as many relevant tags as you can for your content so guys can find it.

You should also get a message each time someone adds you to their favourites in your inbox.

MaryElizabeth
11-24-2017, 11:23 AM
Hi what's USL?

USL is USLove, they are a great site to get started on. The rates are bad though, 4$ for 15 minutes for a new customer 5$ for a returning caller which makes for 27-33 cents a minute. That's near to what you can earn on a party line at TTM. A chat session on NF pays better than USL. Some guys do tip which makes ALL the difference. It hurts when a new caller buys 3 tickets and you end up talking for 45 minutes for 12 bucks and you could make the same on NF in less than 1/3 the time.

The gals 'operators' who work there are mostly pretty great. The site has a 1980's feel, never gets updated, is often down, they never advertise. I think one of the owners designed the site like 15 years ago and doesn't want to change or update it. They mostly have older callers who are polite and given the fee system there are almost never those short 1-2 minute calls. The part where they say you get a % of all future calls from referrals is a very questionable.

If you have no idea where to start they are fine, the "new girl" money is pretty great where all the callers try out the fresh meat. Its one of those companies that is more afraid of losing the callers they have than changing to get new ones. They will have a place in my heart but I'm pretty sure at some point I'll outgrow them entirely.

Lastly, this is just my PERSONAL OPINION but the service that I EXCEEDINGLY STRONGLY suggest AVOIDING is: TMSN Solutions a division of Tomsin Consulting. Trust me just don't.

Have good holidays, stay safe.

DancesWithSloths
11-24-2017, 11:31 AM
Also ladies if you're getting alot of text pics from customers you might not want to take it out on them. NF kinda encouraged it.

I don't know what to do with the avalanche of cock, tbh. I've set up my Chrome so that it doesn't load images automatically, so at least I don't get carpet-bombed with peen, but it's still annoying as hell.

I tell them to call me if they want a dick rating, but lots of them get snippy.

ravenskyy
11-24-2017, 11:48 AM
I applied for USL. How do I get hired? I'm hoping to find a good dispatch company to work for while I'm trying to make indy pso and camming work for me. I'm great on the phone, however, I'm not getting any traffic.

xCamLovex
11-24-2017, 12:26 PM
Niteflirt is starting to remind me of SM circa 2014-2015 when traffic and money was on the up, then they fell off on customer service and let their system get glitchy.

The cut off at 16 mind has been never ending for me for over a month. The responses I get from customer help are copy and paste responses that usually have nothing to do with my question or report. Like the responses you get on the phone from call centers in the Philippines or India.

MsMeta
11-24-2017, 02:33 PM
By "cut off at 16 min" do you mean your calls are dropping after 16 minutes? This has happened to me several times in the past two weeks! Three times in a row with the same customer (who luckily loves me and kept calling back). I thought it was my phone because they just installed a new tower near me and sometimes AT&T sucks, but now that I think about it none of my non-NF calls dropped so it must be them.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-24-2017, 02:40 PM
USL is USLove, they are a great site to get started on. The rates are bad though, 4$ for 15 minutes for a new customer 5$ for a returning caller which makes for 27-33 cents a minute. That's near to what you can earn on a party line at TTM. A chat session on NF pays better than USL. Some guys do tip which makes ALL the difference. It hurts when a new caller buys 3 tickets and you end up talking for 45 minutes for 12 bucks and you could make the same on NF in less than 1/3 the time.

Wanna talk about bad? I know chicks that worked on Telemania for .15-.25 a min and had to work at least 150-1200 minuets before they could move up a "tier." I'm not sure the exact amount of minuets or PPM but I know it's lower than USL. I'd def use TTM and USL as backups for when Niteflirt is fucking up or slow.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-24-2017, 02:42 PM
Does niteflirt have a new girl period as such? Just wondering if it'd be worth me starting over on there so i get some exposure.

I know they have a new girl period for like awards. But I'm not sure of the time frame, but I know they're not like other sites who give you exposure for being a new girl. It's indie either way just have to beef up on the marketing and updating goody bags frequently to reel customers in.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-24-2017, 02:44 PM
Is anyone marketing their Niteflirt profiles via Instagram? :)

I haven't tried or though of it since a lot of the profiles that follow me on my IG and Twitter are mostly bots sadly :-[ idk why they're so drawn to me I need bot repellant! :P

MaryElizabeth
11-24-2017, 02:51 PM
https://www.sexyjobs.com/jobs/phone-sex/E30578

Be nice, the operators at USL that you will talk to deal with all the BS guys so be really nice to the operators, will make a huge difference.

again: TMSN Solutions (Tomsin Consulting), on my own PERSONAL experience, NOT RECOMMENDED

PSOcodemonkey
11-24-2017, 03:54 PM
Ive worked with several other companies and they aren't all bad. But I realized I could make more money by having multiple phone lines at different pricepoints and only answer to myself. This is also how I feel about camming. Its good to have a go to site but I believe its best to put most of your energy into independent ventures.

Could not agree more. For anyone who wants to do this long term full time vs just a few years, independent ventures (your own indie phone lines, indie cam site, etc) make all the difference. The rewards are not as instantaneous as dispatch or platform, but in the long term bring in so much more. One reason I never promote my NF or TTM profiles outside of those sites. If I take time promoting on the web, social media, etc, that time goes to promoting my indie ventures.

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-24-2017, 04:38 PM
For advertising your Niteflirt besides having self hosted blogs, and using twitter... Have any of y'all used adult ad services? Or use Traffic generation (SEO) for your NF profile or blog site?

MaryElizabeth
11-24-2017, 06:55 PM
Ms RavenSkyy

I tried to send you some messages but I don't see them in my sent box, not sure what the issue is. Check your settings??

ThornyAndHot
11-25-2017, 11:03 AM
I've been looking everywhere. What is a PTV?

Goldenx.Chiquis
11-25-2017, 11:08 AM
I've been looking everywhere. What is a PTV?

A PTV = Pay To View. It's a type of mail where clients pay to see the content inside of it.

ThornyAndHot
11-25-2017, 11:11 AM
Thank you!!