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Paradoxx
07-23-2018, 08:54 AM
Hello girls!
Looking to give it a try on NF. Just making sure, for your one account you can have 3 characters each with a different email addy -
1. Do you use your current cell phone? or get a seperate line?
2. The model pics that are discussed. It it just personal preference to use your own or model pics?
3. If your characters are very different types, do you make sure to use different pics that relate to the individual character? ie - if you use your own pics or models seems Ive read some guys may notice, some won't ever notice.
4. Do most of you find it is pro or con to have your NF name similar to any other names you use on cam sites?

Thanks in advance!

Welcome! I love NF, so I'm hoping you will too.

1. Cell phone. I've tried using my landline in the past, but it didn't make too much of a difference for me, so I just stick to my cell.

2. I prefer using my own only because I know I'll never run out of content to sell and I can use it as a marketing advantage by offering cam sessions as well.

3. I only use myself at the moment, but this is something that I've considered when thinking about making a new character. I personally would try to purchase content that was as different/distinct as possible so guys wouldn't put the pieces together.

4. CON. Major con for me. I had tried to maximize traffic by using the same name everywhere, but all it would do was get my well-paying NF customers to freeload on Streamate. I now have a name that's different on SM, but similar enough to my NF name so that the guys who find me on my camsite can find me on my indy sites and pay me more there, but not really vice versa. I even created a separate Twitter to promote SM because I was so tired of NF guys finding out about it from my social media.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-23-2018, 11:19 AM
Welcome! I love 4. CON. Major con for me. I had tried to maximize traffic by using the same name everywhere, but all it would do was get my well-paying NF customers to freeload on Streamate. I now have a name that's different on SM, but similar enough to my NF name so that the guys who find me on my camsite can find me on my indy sites and pay me more there, but not really vice versa. I even created a separate Twitter to promote SM because I was so tired of NF guys finding out about it from my social media.

Good tip. I ran into this issue on Streamate as well when I branched out from phonesex. It's one of the reasons why I started working under various names. But ultimately no matter what..the more you get out there, they'll be able to find you on any site.

Paradoxx
07-23-2018, 11:47 AM
Good tip. I ran into this issue on Streamate as well when I branched out from phonesex. It's one of the reasons why I started working under various names. But ultimately no matter what..the more you get out there, they'll be able to find you on any site.

I actually got the tip from you! :) As soon as I became more consistent on Streamate, I realized how important it was to keep the two separated. It's helped a lot, but you're right -- I still do get a few lurkers who wandered in from NF despite my efforts to separate my client bases. Thankfully, a lot of my NF/indy guys are very set in their ways and won't venture onto other sites (even other indy sites), but I still expect to see one or two pop up every once in a while.

Serena113
07-23-2018, 11:59 AM
Was this SM/NF thing a problem from the start? Or did it take a while?It's been good for me so far, but now I'm starting to worry I've shot myself in the foot.

KatDaniels
07-23-2018, 02:43 PM
Shot yourself in the foot how?

Do most of you use your actual credit card or get a prepaid one and use that?

I started to complete the registration for NF but used my SM name. Hmm maybe I should start over and register a totally different name.

When I complete the registration I add on the additional 3 to that one? or make all 3 seperate registrations? but am able to use same cell number and CC for all 3?

ugh sorry now I'm starting to confuse myself! In my early 50's so maybe blame it on my age?? lol

Thx xoxo

Staci
07-23-2018, 03:26 PM
Shot yourself in the foot how?

Do most of you use your actual credit card or get a prepaid one and use that?

I started to complete the registration for NF but used my SM name. Hmm maybe I should start over and register a totally different name.

When I complete the registration I add on the additional 3 to that one? or make all 3 seperate registrations? but am able to use same cell number and CC for all 3?

ugh sorry now I'm starting to confuse myself! In my early 50's so maybe blame it on my age?? lol

Thx xoxo

If you already used your phone number to create the one account, I wouldn't delete it and start over because that will count as one of the three accounts you can have with the same phone number, even though it's deleted. You can just change the name, if you like.

You will want to make a separate account for each character. You can use the same phone number on all three, but will need to use a different email address for each.

Whether you choose to use a prepaid card or regular credit/debit card to open the accounts is up to you. I've done both over the years. They will per-authorize a small account on the card (only a dollar or so - it's been so long, I don't recall), so it does have to be an active card with at least a few dollars available.

KatDaniels
07-23-2018, 04:22 PM
Haven't finished the registration. Want to get a prepaid credit card and will finish it with that.
I also have to get a few more emails set up, at least 2 more then will go back to finish all the registrations.

Classy_Katy
07-24-2018, 12:27 AM
Is it worthwhile, or even possible, to join NF just to do chat? I'm having less and less time home alone time.

Paradoxx
07-24-2018, 07:26 AM
Is it worthwhile, or even possible, to join NF just to do chat? I'm having less and less time home alone time.

I think it definitely is so long as you have goodies and/or PTV's to up-sell -- preferably both. After I raised my phone rate to $2.99/min., most of my business has come from chats, PTV's, and goodies. I still get calls at this rate (which I do like because calls add up so quickly, I'm not ready to let go of them just yet), but I've heard from other girls, if you raise it even higher, you can nearly guarantee the vast majority of your interactions will be chat-based. However, like I said, having something to up-sell is what makes it worthwhile, imo.

Paradoxx
07-24-2018, 07:33 AM
Was this SM/NF thing a problem from the start? Or did it take a while?It's been good for me so far, but now I'm starting to worry I've shot myself in the foot.

It wasn't a problem from the start, no, because I didn't have too much popularity (if any, lol). But like I said, it picked up and started becoming more of an apparent issue after becoming way more active on both sites.

I don't think you've shot yourself in the foot! If this really does concern you, just tweak your name a bit on one site or the other. My name isn't vastly different on each site, I just use a Domme title before my "first name" on SM and my "first name/surname" sans the title on NF because that's where I'd like most of my traffic to go, so I use a more specific name for that and all of my other high-payout indy sites. So it's really not difficult for guys to find me on either site, I'm not trying to hide, per se, just making it more difficult rather than literally directing them to a live-stream site they may have never even heard of where they can watch me for free.

Either way, I personally don't think you can ever really "shoot yourself in the foot with this." Like PGD said, they'll inevitably find you eventually as you garner more success. All you can do is not spoon-feed them the information -- that's the only real "mistake" I made by constantly marketing my cammodels link on my indy/main Twitter and getting guys who otherwise never would have known about that to inquire about it and then proceed to lurk and never pay.

ravenskyy
07-24-2018, 10:54 AM
Dear customers who add me to their favorites, but never call or purchase anything. Why???

Marina Starr
07-24-2018, 10:58 AM
Straight up LOSERS. LOSERS.

Dear customers who add me to their favorites, but never call or purchase anything. Why???

MsMeta
07-24-2018, 11:19 AM
Dear customers who add me to their favorites, but never call or purchase anything. Why???

Fishing for free minutes? At least once a week I'll have someone add me to their favorites and a few days later I get a message asking for free minutes because "other girls send me free minutes all the time." I don't send freebies unless a call drops or it's their birthday or something.

That said, I've been seriously considering doing it lately just because it's sooooo dead. But then I know from my experience that a lot of free minutes guys either don't go much past them and/or they'll spend the rest of eternity begging for more. I actually kinda hate that the free minutes exist lol.

ravenskyy
07-24-2018, 11:56 AM
I've given out free minutes a few times so far, just hoping that it would get me some calls. It's worked twice but only 1 customer each time. :beat:

I've had someone bug me for free minutes once, I blocked him. Cheap. Losers.

Staci
07-24-2018, 12:05 PM
Fishing for free minutes?
I think this is true in many cases. There are girls who say they automatically send free minutes to everyone who favorites them, so some guys favorite everyone fishing for them.

I don't think it's true in every case. Some guys will see your profile when your not available, and will favorite you so that you will show up in their favorite list and they will see when you are taking calls again. At least I think that was probably the intended purpose of the feature.

Classy_Katy
07-24-2018, 12:17 PM
Dear customers who add me to their favorites, but never call or purchase anything. Why???

Leaving their scent like a dog peeing against a lamp post? Sorry for the analogy, it's just what sprung to mind!

BadBitch
07-24-2018, 09:12 PM
I'm guessing that the the guys who favorite women are just perusing at the moment. They may be at work. Their wife may be home. So, the favorite you to call you when they can.

BadBitch
07-24-2018, 09:13 PM
I think I scared off a guy tonight. I asked where he was from. He said my city and without thinking, said, "Interesting". He asks, "Why's that?" I say, "It's cool you live there. Where at?" He told me then hung up.

Fuck me.

sarahlove
07-24-2018, 11:59 PM
One thing that I do is I bid for second page not first page. The majority of customers will look at several pages before they make a decision. With my bidding, I am on page 2 of my categories when it is peak time and on page 1 when it is slow. Also with every Express Pay, I leave the amount that I plan on using to bid the next day in my account.

YES! This is also a great way to kind of manipulate the system. (IN a great way!)

If I am able to bid $.50 and get a caller who converts I am going to have to pay less to be closer to the front. If I notice my conversion rate start to dip I spend less time at the front because normally if they have to dig a little deeper (say page 8 or 9) I am more apt to convert someone who is not all turned on and ready to burst lol

sarahlove
07-25-2018, 12:03 AM
I think it definitely is so long as you have goodies and/or PTV's to up-sell -- preferably both. After I raised my phone rate to $2.99/min., most of my business has come from chats, PTV's, and goodies. I still get calls at this rate (which I do like because calls add up so quickly, I'm not ready to let go of them just yet), but I've heard from other girls, if you raise it even higher, you can nearly guarantee the vast majority of your interactions will be chat-based. However, like I said, having something to up-sell is what makes it worthwhile, imo.

THIS IS AWESOME!!! This is exactly how I run my business. I have had such a wonderful time I have not taken ONE phone call in THREE months!! It has been heaven. I have 5 accounts with several hundred Goody bags. I also have PTVs that I send out daily. (I send out an e-mail every 3 months to ask guys if they want to continue on the mailing list and most say yes

sarahlove
07-25-2018, 12:10 AM
Dear customers who add me to their favorites, but never call or purchase anything. Why???

DO you have a welcome e-mail that you send out?

Mine says:

I see you added me as a favorite. Seems like a really bad idea... I am pretty addicting. If I am not around check out my goodie bags. I get a little chime sent to my phone (it sounds like a cash register.... so it ALWAYS gets my attention) When I hear that noise I always look.. sometimes I laugh.. sometimes I show my friends and sometimes I might even send you a chat (if you connect with me first) and tell you how I reacted (want to hear my geniune reaction? I do custom MP3s for $20 for 5 mins- they must follow NF TOU! Can't find a girl to look at that cock? I do penis evals for $20 for 5 mins... I am not nice though. I am never nice keep in mind this is entry level fun!

( This is not word for word what I send (I put a lot more personality into it and have all the PTV buttons and links in mine) but the feedback that I get is they LOVE the interaction. I view it as a poke on facebook. You got my attention... BTW... this is the ONLY thing I EVER do for free.

Serena113
07-25-2018, 04:30 AM
I think I scared off a guy tonight. I asked where he was from. He said my city and without thinking, said, "Interesting". He asks, "Why's that?" I say, "It's cool you live there. Where at?" He told me then hung up.

Fuck me.

Some of these guys are afraid of their own shadows. I wouldn't read too much into it. Unless you live in a small town, I'd guess he was probably super nervous and would have found something else to freak out and hang up over no matter what you talked about.

HelenaVixen
07-25-2018, 10:04 AM
Dear customers who add me to their favorites, but never call or purchase anything. Why???

I always send out a email just saying thank you and I add a 10 second voice sample with it. I’ve had guys say that they appreciate the thank you email and end up either calling or buying something (whether it be a PTV or goodie) Some chat me right away. I stopped giving out free minutes bc of the same thing mentioned. They’ll get the damn free minute and will really favorite me again like I won’t remember and think I’ll just send them a minute. If they do that I block them. I don’t have time for that dumb shit. I mean the least you could do is pay for a goody or so *rolls eyes*
Sorry, had to randomly vent lol

Paradoxx
07-26-2018, 07:04 AM
DO you have a welcome e-mail that you send out?

Mine says:

I see you added me as a favorite. Seems like a really bad idea... I am pretty addicting. If I am not around check out my goodie bags. I get a little chime sent to my phone (it sounds like a cash register.... so it ALWAYS gets my attention) When I hear that noise I always look.. sometimes I laugh.. sometimes I show my friends and sometimes I might even send you a chat (if you connect with me first) and tell you how I reacted (want to hear my geniune reaction? I do custom MP3s for $20 for 5 mins- they must follow NF TOU! Can't find a girl to look at that cock? I do penis evals for $20 for 5 mins... I am not nice though. I am never nice keep in mind this is entry level fun!

( This is not word for word what I send (I put a lot more personality into it and have all the PTV buttons and links in mine) but the feedback that I get is they LOVE the interaction. I view it as a poke on facebook. You got my attention... BTW... this is the ONLY thing I EVER do for free.

I do almost exactly everything mentioned here, sending fave messages really is an awesome way to convert favorite-freeloaders into actual spenders.

To add onto this, I've also taken to making my favorite-response message a $.99 PTV of and within itself. It's a little risky since you aren't guaranteeing they'll see the information (which for me is a lot like Sarah's, just links to my PTV's and goodies, urging them to chat or call, and quoting custom prices -- all with an attached voice sample), but the vast majority of guys have bought them thus far and it gives you a little money for bidding, if anything. I also think it might (don't quote me on this lol) help with LVS since I believe that's determined less by clicks -- which could potentially make it worse if they just favorite and do nothing else -- and more by genuine conversions. So I'd imagine turning that click into a paid conversion from the start would be beneficial to bidding less -- assuming it was a FL customer. But once again, I'm not 100% on whether or not that's true, LVS is such a mystery sometimes.

MissGD
07-26-2018, 12:29 PM
The rule that I have is I only give out free minutes and by minutes I mean 1 minute lmao to customers whom have purchased or called before and actually deserve it. Other than that I do not do free minutes :P. I took a break from NF but I've been doing my research and really putting the time into it, its always rewarding when you make a goal or double what you invested in.

BadBitch
07-28-2018, 05:09 PM
I had a guy call me this week and it fucking fucked me up.

He went on and on about his mother. He would compare how his mother would treat him compared to his father.

He basically was fishing for me to tell him that his mother loved him more than his father. He basically is in love with his mother.

In the 30-45 minutes that we spoke, he just repeated the same 2 stories over and over. Then kept asking me the same questions repeatedly.

I'll be happy if I never hear from that guy again.

caramelcraze
07-29-2018, 03:01 AM
oddly i've only ever had one guy straight up ask for free minutes after fav'ing me. I do get dudes who favorite me and never call ALL THE TIME though.
totally agree with everyone
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xxxGothBarbie
07-29-2018, 09:55 PM
So just to clarify.... I can have 3 more characters if I use a different prepaid card to add more listings under my name?

caramelcraze
07-30-2018, 01:52 AM
So just to clarify.... I can have 3 more characters if I use a different prepaid card to add more listings under my name?

Someone stop me if I'm wrong, but it's 3 characters per phone number, not per card. if you were to get a prepaid cell phone, you could add three more characters.

Isabo
07-30-2018, 06:48 AM
I'm frustrated about one guy on Niteflirt. He chats with me for free in email, but I answer very minimally, I answer when I am available to be on Niteflirt otherwise I tell him I am busy. He is very clingy and asks me a ton of questions all the time, especially like "where are you, busy doing what, why dont you answer". Then he goes "if you dont answer this wont work between us". Which is fine by me, because I dont get money from us chatting only when we talk on the phone and he's barely done that. Anyways, I know he could be a potential customer, but dont know how to handle it. Should I just tell him to give me money if he wants me to answer him (hes demanding a lot of attention) or fuck off, or just tell him to fuck off? I guess I'm just also venting lol.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-30-2018, 07:26 AM
I'm frustrated about one guy on Niteflirt. He chats with me for free in email, but I answer very minimally, I answer when I am available to be on Niteflirt otherwise I tell him I am busy. He is very clingy and asks me a ton of questions all the time, especially like "where are you, busy doing what, why dont you answer". Then he goes "if you dont answer this wont work between us". Which is fine by me, because I dont get money from us chatting only when we talk on the phone and he's barely done that. Anyways, I know he could be a potential customer, but dont know how to handle it. Should I just tell him to give me money if he wants me to answer him (hes demanding a lot of attention) or fuck off, or just tell him to fuck off? I guess I'm just also venting lol.

"If you don't respond this wont work"

Girl block him! He's a luser. Thats a loser and a user combined. If they suspect even for a second that they can take up your time for free, then that's what they'll do. Go back and read the last few pages of this thread where people give examples on how to send ptv responses. I guarantee that guy is jerking off to every response you give him. Its the attention that gets these types off. Make them pay for that.

foxirox
07-30-2018, 08:21 AM
DO you have a welcome e-mail that you send out?

Mine says:

I see you added me as a favorite. Seems like a really bad idea... I am pretty addicting. If I am not around check out my goodie bags. I get a little chime sent to my phone (it sounds like a cash register.... so it ALWAYS gets my attention) When I hear that noise I always look.. sometimes I laugh.. sometimes I show my friends and sometimes I might even send you a chat (if you connect with me first) and tell you how I reacted (want to hear my geniune reaction? I do custom MP3s for $20 for 5 mins- they must follow NF TOU! Can't find a girl to look at that cock? I do penis evals for $20 for 5 mins... I am not nice though. I am never nice keep in mind this is entry level fun!

( This is not word for word what I send (I put a lot more personality into it and have all the PTV buttons and links in mine) but the feedback that I get is they LOVE the interaction. I view it as a poke on facebook. You got my attention... BTW... this is the ONLY thing I EVER do for free.

Sarah - you really do inspire me! I want to get to a place now where clips are my sole income. I know it won't be easy will take a lot of time to build up - but since raising my phone rate has led to a lot more sales, and I only have a handful of clips in my goodbags.

Can I ask you a few questions. You say you have 5 listings on NF. Are they all different characters? And how many goody bags would you say you have?

Do you send out a mass email to everyone or on your list with the same PTV's? I'm just intrigued as I don't want to annoy people lol

xxxGothBarbie
07-30-2018, 11:02 AM
I'm hoping someone can answer my question regarding the amount of characters per credit card or is that per phone number? Will I need to get a burner phone for this? I dove in yesterday FINALLY figured this site out & wanna make at least 3 more characters with it for now. I'm noticing that most goody bags I see are kinda cheap imo ($1 per min vids/clips) and lower for pic sets. Is that the going rate these days on here? That's a bit low & I cringe at pricing my stuff that low bc f how much time I've spent on my content I'm posting.

Another thing I'm seeing is how some of you will raise your phone rates so they might just purchase your goody bags instead, fr those of you that can't phone or don't want to?

Mia_
07-30-2018, 11:32 AM
Hi! I made a listing on niteflirt and had it approved I also bid a little to be up closer to the first page or two. I haven’t received not one call or chat and it’s been about 5 days!

xxxGothBarbie
07-30-2018, 11:36 AM
How do you add a thumbnail pic to a goody to increase exposure?

ravenskyy
07-30-2018, 11:45 AM
I'm going to get started on those welcome emails, that's an awesome idea! Has anyone had issues adding goodie bags? I have tried to upload 4 new clips, and the site keeps saying my files are corrupted, which isn't true. I am not only using the same type of files that I have before (and those uploaded successfully), but the clips worked fine for the other 4 sites I put them on.

Spemily
07-30-2018, 05:07 PM
It's three accounts per telephone number AND three accounts per credit card. So if you want to have four, five or six accounts you will need two telephone numbers and two credit card numbers.

xxxGothBarbie
07-30-2018, 06:12 PM
It's three accounts per telephone number AND three accounts per credit card. So if you want to have four, five or six accounts you will need two telephone numbers and two credit card numbers.

Thank you! So do you just get a burner phone for that then?

Miss-Trust
07-31-2018, 11:29 AM
I'm frustrated about one guy on Niteflirt. He chats with me for free in email, but I answer very minimally, I answer when I am available to be on Niteflirt otherwise I tell him I am busy. He is very clingy and asks me a ton of questions all the time, especially like "where are you, busy doing what, why dont you answer". Then he goes "if you dont answer this wont work between us". Which is fine by me, because I dont get money from us chatting only when we talk on the phone and he's barely done that. Anyways, I know he could be a potential customer, but dont know how to handle it. Should I just tell him to give me money if he wants me to answer him (hes demanding a lot of attention) or fuck off, or just tell him to fuck off? I guess I'm just also venting lol.

This guy is a time leech! He basically thinks that because he has spent something on that you now owe him free time. He is trying to get as much as possible, for as little as possible. The best way to deal with this guy is to tell him that you are in demand and so only have time for paying customers then offer him to swap over to paid chat. At this point he'll either start paying for your time, stop messaging you or whine. If he whines then just block him.

Remember that the more time you give him for free, the more he will expect. So make sure you set those boundaries and stick to them.

X

laurielegs
07-31-2018, 07:48 PM
I'm frustrated about one guy on Niteflirt. He chats with me for free in email, but I answer very minimally, I answer when I am available to be on Niteflirt otherwise I tell him I am busy. He is very clingy and asks me a ton of questions all the time, especially like "where are you, busy doing what, why dont you answer". Then he goes "if you dont answer this wont work between us". Which is fine by me, because I dont get money from us chatting only when we talk on the phone and he's barely done that. Anyways, I know he could be a potential customer, but dont know how to handle it. Should I just tell him to give me money if he wants me to answer him (hes demanding a lot of attention) or fuck off, or just tell him to fuck off? I guess I'm just also venting lol.

Always respond with a Pay to View email.

If he doesn't pay block or ignore. Problem solved ;)

I wish all sites had pay to view email! Hell I wish real life had it, hahah.

xxxGothBarbie
07-31-2018, 11:32 PM
ugh how loooong does it take to start ding good on here? I've bid, made goodies (which still say ID pending?) and maybe made $4 total in 3 days of this hardwork. I realize I'm new & need regs but dam :(

Also how long does it usually take for them to approve a video in a goody? I've wasted $5 bidding in 3 days , I'm at my wits end here.

foxirox
08-01-2018, 04:43 AM
ugh how loooong does it take to start ding good on here? I've bid, made goodies (which still say ID pending?) and maybe made $4 total in 3 days of this hardwork. I realize I'm new & need regs but dam :(

Also how long does it usually take for them to approve a video in a goody? I've wasted $5 bidding in 3 days , I'm at my wits end here.

NF has been dead AF for me recently. I've been watching the top girls on there and they haven't been receiving much calls either. I made new goody bags and send out PTV's last night but nothing. You've started at a bad time, but hang on in there as it's only 4 and a bit weeks left till Sept, and that's when a lot of kids go back to school in the UK (not sure about US).

I'm actually really looking forward to Sept. I'm saving up and will be taking August off next year. It messes with your mind when everyone is being a broke ass fuck and you start to believe it's you.

My advice is, push on and make at least 3 characters on there. You will eventually get calls. I remember it did take me a while to get them but once you do - you'll be on a role. x

ravenskyy
08-01-2018, 04:44 AM
ugh how loooong does it take to start ding good on here? I've bid, made goodies (which still say ID pending?) and maybe made $4 total in 3 days of this hardwork. I realize I'm new & need regs but dam :(

Also how long does it usually take for them to approve a video in a goody? I've wasted $5 bidding in 3 days , I'm at my wits end here.

I've done all that and more, and I still don't make anything. I haven't had 1 call in a week!

MsMeta
08-01-2018, 07:12 AM
I'm so glad it's not just me! I thought I had pissed off someone at NF and they were hiding my listings lol. I was doing really well in the spring, like $200+ a day well in 6 hours - and that was without goodies or PTVs and just bidding to be in the top 20. And I made most of that with just 1 character! Now I'm lucky if I make $100 in a day with 3 characters logged in for 12 hours or more. It's frustrating af, but I do have plenty of time to make all kinds of goodies for customers I don't currently have lol.

I have (had?) a bunch of regulars but they seem to have vanished. And my listings aren't even getting clicked on much - although once a week or so I do have a day where I lose a good chunk of my profit by getting clicked to death. When things were good I didn't mind the featuring fees because at the very least the clickers bought my voice sample or one of the pics in my profile (as recommended by the ladies here - that really works!) but now I get nothing. I send out emails every day, make new goodies, I even started getting active on social media and nothing lol. I know summer is bad but this is sooooo bad.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-01-2018, 07:30 AM
Have you ladies tried changing your bio pic and tagline every once and awhile? Every time I do that I get a few new customers. Those are the two things that get them to click through in the first place. Also changing your listing can help to keep them on the page once they're there. A few simple tweaks can make a major difference.

1. If you have p2v buttons at the bottom then revese that and put them at the top.
2. If your tribute buttons are the first thing they see, drop them lower to the middle of the page.
3. Change your background color.
4. Add a call button in the body of your listing.
5. Add a link to your goodies or a listing with more content for sale etc.

You don't have to do all of those things at once. Try doing it gradually so that you can see what's actually working.

BadBitch
08-01-2018, 12:07 PM
I'm frustrated about one guy on Niteflirt. He chats with me for free in email, but I answer very minimally, I answer when I am available to be on Niteflirt otherwise I tell him I am busy. He is very clingy and asks me a ton of questions all the time, especially like "where are you, busy doing what, why dont you answer". Then he goes "if you dont answer this wont work between us". Which is fine by me, because I dont get money from us chatting only when we talk on the phone and he's barely done that. Anyways, I know he could be a potential customer, but dont know how to handle it. Should I just tell him to give me money if he wants me to answer him (hes demanding a lot of attention) or fuck off, or just tell him to fuck off? I guess I'm just also venting lol.

Respond with a PTV response or tell him to call or text you.

I did that last night (told the guy to call or text me). The guy went right into role-play in an email. I told him that I do not engage in rp via email. He then got all kindsa butthurt and called me sensitive. He claimed that he was setting up the scenerio.

Right. Lol!

BadBitch
08-01-2018, 12:09 PM
NF has been dead AF for me recently. I've been watching the top girls on there and they haven't been receiving much calls either. I made new goody bags and send out PTV's last night but nothing. You've started at a bad time, but hang on in there as it's only 4 and a bit weeks left till Sept, and that's when a lot of kids go back to school in the UK (not sure about US).

I'm actually really looking forward to Sept. I'm saving up and will be taking August off next year. It messes with your mind when everyone is being a broke ass fuck and you start to believe it's you.

My advice is, push on and make at least 3 characters on there. You will eventually get calls. I remember it did take me a while to get them but once you do - you'll be on a role. x

How can you tell if it's dead for other girls?

I'm REALLY looking forward to Sept as well!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-01-2018, 12:59 PM
How can you tell if it's dead for other girls?

I'm REALLY looking forward to Sept as well!

Unless a person tells you its been dead for them, you really have no idea. You'd have to watch their listing like a hawk and assume thats the only account they have. Even if you notice that their call button is never busy that doesnt mean they're not on another call with a different account. I currently have three different phone numbers that I use on NF. Sometimes a money making account might go stale for a bit while others prosper.

This next part is for everyone. Keep in mind that if everyone is bidding instead of offsite marketing the customer pool will never be large enough to sustain the growing number of flirts available. Niteflirt does very little marketing and mostly relies on the flirts to bring in the traffic.

There are ways to make money on this platform all year-round but you have to be flexible and know when to change it up. And customer retention is very important. Most algorithms favor new sign ups that lead to sales but at the end of the day your bank account will mostly rely on regulars. I posted this before and decided to elaborate a bit with this article Summer Time Hustle Tips (https://admin.boleynmodels.com/ref?page=blog/summer_hustle_tips_cammodels/&campaign=12&affToken=NTc2). You can do this all year round to be honest. For some people the summer is banging?!? Mine has been steady. Some people say Wednesdays are the worst days. When it comes to indy sales they are the highlight off the week! You really need to pay attention to the days and times where you make the most money. Take notes. Take notes. Take notes on ALL of your customers and then follow up with them. Make it personal and avoid generic messaging.

LOL I could go on but I think I'll stop here.

xxxGothBarbie
08-01-2018, 02:04 PM
NF has been dead AF for me recently. I've been watching the top girls on there and they haven't been receiving much calls either. I made new goody bags and send out PTV's last night but nothing. You've started at a bad time, but hang on in there as it's only 4 and a bit weeks left till Sept, and that's when a lot of kids go back to school in the UK (not sure about US).

I'm actually really looking forward to Sept. I'm saving up and will be taking August off next year. It messes with your mind when everyone is being a broke ass fuck and you start to believe it's you.

My advice is, push on and make at least 3 characters on there. You will eventually get calls. I remember it did take me a while to get them but once you do - you'll be on a role. x

Thank you :) that def inspires me to hang in there bc I do believe this site to have full potential. Summer slum ain't no joke either haha.

xxxGothBarbie
08-01-2018, 02:09 PM
Have you ladies tried changing your bio pic and tagline every once and awhile? Every time I do that I get a few new customers. Those are the two things that get them to click through in the first place. Also changing your listing can help to keep them on the page once they're there. A few simple tweaks can make a major difference.

1. If you have p2v buttons at the bottom then revese that and put them at the top.
2. If your tribute buttons are the first thing they see, drop them lower to the middle of the page.
3. Change your background color.
4. Add a call button in the body of your listing.
5. Add a link to your goodies or a listing with more content for sale etc.

You don't have to do all of those things at once. Try doing it gradually so that you can see what's actually working.

I don't have an HTML type profile just yet, is that how I'd be able to do these things you listed? I tweak what I have so far by changing up the wording & what not, I'm getting clicks here & there.