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Discodolli
08-19-2018, 06:11 PM
Hey everyone, I'm thinking of joining NF soon but I have a couple questions I couldn't find answers to on their website. Are there any rules about how much you have to work / how many calls you have to take? Would I get kicked off if I wasn't taking enough calls or making enough money? I'm currently in a living situation that would make phone sex inconvenient, so I'm debating if I should get NF already to start selling goodies & take calls whenever I can, or wait until I can take them regularly?

Also, would you recommend joining NF straightaway as a phone sex newbie, or practice on another platform first?

scarletl
08-20-2018, 01:57 AM
Hey everyone, I'm thinking of joining NF soon but I have a couple questions I couldn't find answers to on their website. Are there any rules about how much you have to work / how many calls you have to take? Would I get kicked off if I wasn't taking enough calls or making enough money? I'm currently in a living situation that would make phone sex inconvenient, so I'm debating if I should get NF already to start selling goodies & take calls whenever I can, or wait until I can take them regularly?

Also, would you recommend joining NF straightaway as a phone sex newbie, or practice on another platform first?

There's no set rules of how many days/hours/calls you need to work. You're pretty much independent with NF. I'd say it's a good site to start with.

Classy_Katy
08-20-2018, 02:44 AM
Is there a rule about watermarks on photos and movies? I see that most girls don't have them but I'm wanting to use content that I already have, and it's all watermarked in my cam name, no urls.

I'mEveToo
08-20-2018, 08:28 AM
I've watermarked photos with my Niteflirt name and it was approved but I don't know if they would reject photos if name on them was slightly different. No harm in trying though.

scarletl
08-20-2018, 02:12 PM
Is there a rule about watermarks on photos and movies? I see that most girls don't have them but I'm wanting to use content that I already have, and it's all watermarked in my cam name, no urls.

Watermarks are fine as long as they don't have any link on them x

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-20-2018, 03:03 PM
I think watermarks with a .com visible is okay as long as the site is NF compliant. That means there will be no other competing services listed on that site. But even if your name is the same as your website that does have competing services its okay as long as you dont add the .com #silly

I know thats confusing. I once had an account suspended because my watermark was a hashtag. Zero mention of what social media platform I used it on, but it was enough to have my listings pulled. My social media accounts linked to my website that wasnt NF compliant. Oops! NF themselves don't really put in that much time to check. They mostly rely on other flirts to police the site.

grneyesnfl
08-21-2018, 02:37 AM
Is there a rule about watermarks on photos and movies? I see that most girls don't have them but I'm wanting to use content that I already have, and it's all watermarked in my cam name, no urls.

I know you said you weren't going to watermark with URL's, but I'm putting this out there so no one else does it and gets their listings suspended. You cannot watermark photos with a url.

"Flirts are not permitted to post links or URLs in Member Photos or Listing Titles."

That can be find here under PERSONAL WEBSITES:

https://www.niteflirt.com/help/niteflirt_rules#nrule3

I would write and ask them about watermarking your photos with a completely different name than the one you are using on NF, especially if it leads customers to Google your alternate name and find your cam sites where you may offer alternate payment options.

Classy_Katy
08-21-2018, 03:49 AM
Would I be able to use my cam name, since that's how my content is watermarked?

scarletl
08-21-2018, 04:09 AM
Would I be able to use my cam name, since that's how my content is watermarked?


Yeah that's absolutely fine

MsMeta
08-22-2018, 09:30 AM
I've been thinking about adding some games to one of my characters but I'm so confused about how to set one up and execute it. Maybe I'm just overthinking it lol. Am I correct in thinking it's like a choose your own adventure story? How does that even work? They buy one mail and you have to manually send the next or can it be automated? I know it was just mentioned that some of you add audio...like, just as a separate file in the same email?

For some reason I can't wrap my mind around games for some reason and there's not much info out there. Are there any tutorials or an example somewhere I could reference? I've seen them on other flirts listings so of course I understand the concept but I guess it's the execution that's tripping me up. I'm pretty creative so I *think* I have tons of ideas but I don't know if they are feasible or even a good idea; the character I want to make them for is the innocent schoolgirl type and usually I see games for dommes so I'm not even sure if that's the audience for games? I don't know what I'm doing, ugh.

Paradoxx
08-22-2018, 02:17 PM
I've been thinking about adding some games to one of my characters but I'm so confused about how to set one up and execute it. Maybe I'm just overthinking it lol. Am I correct in thinking it's like a choose your own adventure story? How does that even work? They buy one mail and you have to manually send the next or can it be automated? I know it was just mentioned that some of you add audio...like, just as a separate file in the same email?

For some reason I can't wrap my mind around games for some reason and there's not much info out there. Are there any tutorials or an example somewhere I could reference? I've seen them on other flirts listings so of course I understand the concept but I guess it's the execution that's tripping me up. I'm pretty creative so I *think* I have tons of ideas but I don't know if they are feasible or even a good idea; the character I want to make them for is the innocent schoolgirl type and usually I see games for dommes so I'm not even sure if that's the audience for games? I don't know what I'm doing, ugh.

Choose-your-own-adventure is a popular type of PTV game from what I've heard from other Flirts, so you're on the right track with thinking of something of that nature.

My games are automated and one message leads to another automatically. I attach the audio files in the "attachments" section of the mail rather than trying to embed it in the code or anything like that - it's especially beneficial since it entices the guys to purchase the messages even more since they know they're guaranteed to include an attachment of some sort rather than just plain text.

Also, while I've mostly seen femdom-oriented PTV's, I've definitely seen some very successful vanilla PTV games as well. And I say "successful," since I've seen the Flirts actually post about them selling well on Twitter and what not. So there certainly is a vanilla market for PTV games.

The girl I'd mentioned in another post has actually created a video tutorial, but she prefers to distribute it personally. So if you'd like to inquire, feel free to PM me and I can give you her info so you can reach out and request a link. :)

magicgembliss
08-23-2018, 09:43 AM
Straight up LOSERS. LOSERS.

Cuz free to brows, not free to call.

magicgembliss
08-23-2018, 06:09 PM
Is this just a summertime thing? Or a fluke? Nothing has changed--not my listings or my approach to callers, so I'm frustrated and confused. I don't understand why they even bother calling.

I'm noticing and hearing a lot of others notice the same kind of thing this month/ Nothing has changed except the customers. It's as if there's some testosterone-reducing chemical in the water supply or something, I swear.

foxirox
08-24-2018, 02:01 AM
Does NF cover chargebacks? I'm concerned about a caller I had the other day. He called me fine, but was having issues with my phone, so we both agreed he could tribute me for the rest of the call. I didn't think anything of it, but saw his name on CMD as somebody who did Chargebacks, but the skype name was completely different.

I'm still unsure about the policies of NF and tributes for calls and chargebacks. I think I read somewhere that they had changed their rules on it, but has anyone had any experience with a chargeback? Thanks

Spemily
08-24-2018, 11:28 AM
NF covers chargebacks and does not allow you to exchange anything for a tribute.

ravenskyy
08-24-2018, 11:45 AM
NF covers chargebacks and does not allow you to exchange anything for a tribute.

They don't always cover them. I had a Findom customer chat with me, then he sent a tribute for our chat session, then within minutes of sending it, he started to change his attitude and acted like he didn't send the tribute. I ended up blocking him because he was flipping out on me for no reason and acting crazy. A few days later I got an alert saying that the site took the tribute back because the customer claimed he didn't send it, even though he definitely did. I argued back with the site, but they sided with the customer. So he basically got a findom session for free. Then the asshole made another account and contacted me a month later. Be careful with tributes, these guys can be master scammers.

Staci
08-24-2018, 12:15 PM
They don't always cover them. I had a Findom customer chat with me, then he sent a tribute for our chat session, then within minutes of sending it, he started to change his attitude and acted like he didn't send the tribute. I ended up blocking him because he was flipping out on me for no reason and acting crazy. A few days later I got an alert saying that the site took the tribute back because the customer claimed he didn't send it, even though he definitely did. I argued back with the site, but they sided with the customer. So he basically got a findom session for free. Then the asshole made another account and contacted me a month later. Be careful with tributes, these guys can be master scammers.

Did NF take back your chat earnings too, or just the tribute he claimed he didn't make?

MsMeta
08-25-2018, 03:05 PM
Is anyone else getting a message on NF that they can't verify your SS#? I had a message at the top of my screen that said I needed to update my payout info and I checked it and everything was fine but when I submitted it I had a message saying that they couldn't verify my SS#.

JaneBurgess
08-25-2018, 03:12 PM
They don't always cover them. I had a Findom customer chat with me, then he sent a tribute for our chat session, then within minutes of sending it, he started to change his attitude and acted like he didn't send the tribute. I ended up blocking him because he was flipping out on me for no reason and acting crazy. A few days later I got an alert saying that the site took the tribute back because the customer claimed he didn't send it, even though he definitely did. I argued back with the site, but they sided with the customer. So he basically got a findom session for free. Then the asshole made another account and contacted me a month later. Be careful with tributes, these guys can be master scammers.

Make them do it over texting on the site and still have them send a tribute. That way NF can see the text chat and see he wanted to send a tribute

thisISbliss
08-25-2018, 03:31 PM
The first one was a guy who I spoke to for nearly an hour, he seemed to be really enjoying it (denial, ruined orgasm) and then he hung up on me and left feedback that said "Never again. Horrible." OMG I had a customer do that too....TWICE! He even used the exact same phrase in your post so I suspect he's a dick who gets off on making life difficult for women. Also, customers who call multiple times can leave feedback multiple times. That character never really recovered since that dickhead did that smh. Luckily, I have other characters but it sucks since I was using that account to bolster my savings egg.

This thread is a goldmine and helped me feel better about my situation. It's nice to know I'm not alone. :-\

ravenskyy
08-25-2018, 04:06 PM
Make them do it over texting on the site and still have them send a tribute. That way NF can see the text chat and see he wanted to send a tribute

I did. They still took it back. And no, they did not take back the money from the actual chat session.

scarletl
08-25-2018, 05:18 PM
I've been trying for a while to get my cost of bidding down and increase my LVS score but nothing seems to change. Now I wonder do I really know how LVS works.
I assumed that the more PTV mails you sell from people buying them from your listings, tribute and call you.

This is what I don't get. One one of my listings as an example. My click rate is 38th, Recent customer conversion is 17th, Customer conversions 74th and Customer retention 90th. So is it click rate that really counts most because customer retention is high as is customer conversions.

I don't get many calls at all but I do sell a fair amount of mails from my listings. Is it based on how many different people buy from your listings or how much they spent from mails on your listings.

What's the best and quickest way to rise this, cheaper call lines to get more calls?

scarletl
08-26-2018, 04:32 AM
Second question. Those of you who are US/CA, is it normal for these guys to hang up within 10 seconds of hearing you, like you say hello, you say your name and you ask them what their name is and boom phone down before you've even got anywhere. This happens to me on 90% of my calls yup, 9/10 calls will all hang up at that point.

UK girls, are there any UK girls on NF here? Does the hanging up happen to you?

Staci
08-26-2018, 04:53 AM
Second question. Those of you who are US/CA, is it normal for these guys to hang up within 10 seconds of hearing you, like you say hello, you say your name and you ask them what their name is and boom phone down before you've even got anywhere. This happens to me on 90% of my calls yup, 9/10 calls will all hang up at that point.

I would think that might be due to the fact that your voice (or accent) is not what they are expecting. I'm not suggesting that you don't have a nice voice - just saying it may not sound like they would expect from looking at your listing.

Does your voice suit your character? I think that is important. Some operators choose to portray characters that they feel will be popular with no thought whether they can convincingly play that character. For instance, don't choose a MILF character if you sound like a teen, and vice versa.

The other thing you might do is have a voice sample on your listings so callers already know how you sound before they call, and don't hang up at the sound of your voice.

caramelcraze
08-26-2018, 05:37 AM
Dude: I have an odd request. Could you ignore me on cam? like just sit there and text and occasionally flip me off or something.
Me:
https://media.giphy.com/media/LVNl92B8wj7pK/giphy.gif

I wish more men had ignore fetishes.

foxirox
08-26-2018, 06:39 AM
Second question. Those of you who are US/CA, is it normal for these guys to hang up within 10 seconds of hearing you, like you say hello, you say your name and you ask them what their name is and boom phone down before you've even got anywhere. This happens to me on 90% of my calls yup, 9/10 calls will all hang up at that point.

UK girls, are there any UK girls on NF here? Does the hanging up happen to you?

This happens to me a lot. (I'm from England). It doesn't bother me so much anymore. I always find that guys who have either travelled outside of the US/CA and who are more open-minded will enjoy speaking to me and do really like my accent. I always put a voice sample in my listing now though. So even if they don't call me, the cost of the voice sample will cover the cost of the click.

scarletl
08-26-2018, 06:42 AM
This happens to me a lot. (I'm from England). It doesn't bother me so much anymore. I always find that guys who have either travelled outside of the US/CA and who are more open-minded will enjoy speaking to me and do really like my accent. I always put a voice sample in my listing now though. So even if they don't call me, the cost of the voice sample will cover the cost of the click.

FINALLY LOL This has been driving me nuts for over a year now. I never had the chance to ask a fellow UK niteflirt.
I did consider doing the voice sample but then I have a ton of goody bags & pic sets I feel like if they hear my accent for cheap then they won't go on to buy my goody bags.

foxirox
08-26-2018, 07:12 AM
FINALLY LOL This has been driving me nuts for over a year now. I never had the chance to ask a fellow UK niteflirt.
I did consider doing the voice sample but then I have a ton of goody bags & pic sets I feel like if they hear my accent for cheap then they won't go on to buy my goody bags.

I understand what you're saying. It used to frustrate me...but I look at it like this - no flirt will please everyone. I bet for every member who has put the phone down, another member has complimented you. Use that to your advantage. And just remember, some men will love our accents, some men won't. Some men love the barbie look and some men prefer BBW. This is the beauty of our industry. There is a market for everyone. So don't take it personal. Just think someone could call you up and love your accent because they have been to Europe, or know of a neighbour, friend, sister, brother or whatever who is British. Make that connection, build that rapport and go from there. Having a British accent is quite a small part of it I find. It's more the connection and how I deliver to their fetish that is important.

Classy_Katy
08-26-2018, 07:26 AM
FINALLY LOL This has been driving me nuts for over a year now. I never had the chance to ask a fellow UK niteflirt.
I did consider doing the voice sample but then I have a ton of goody bags & pic sets I feel like if they hear my accent for cheap then they won't go on to buy my goody bags.

Voice really is important...I still haven't set myself up on NF but I have a free intro on AW so they can hear my voice. On C4S I say where I am from in my profile and I use a preview for my clips so they can hear my voice. Your voice can be one of your USPs. Some guys will be specifically looking for British girls, they do on C4S.

foxirox
08-26-2018, 11:41 AM
Voice really is important...I still haven't set myself up on NF but I have a free intro on AW so they can hear my voice. On C4S I say where I am from in my profile and I use a preview for my clips so they can hear my voice. Your voice can be one of your USPs. Some guys will be specifically looking for British girls, they do on C4S.

I agree it's important - I'm not denying that, but from my personal experience - it's less of a factor when I cam on NF, but definitely more of a factor when it's just phonesex (on NF) On AW - I only offer phonesex and it's never an issue. In fact, (without blowing my own trumpet), I get a ton of compliments both on AW and NF about my voice because I do loads of hypnosis, so I train it. I probably should state that I'm British on NF, because I do on AW, but if the guy is specifically looking for an American or Canadian sounding flirt, good for him. I'm definitely not going to beat myself up about it. In fact, just this very second I had a guy call me on NF, the brief conversation went like this : Hello Roxy, Oh, I see you're a British woman, errrmm, errr, that's nice. Take Care', puts the phone down. If he had read my feedback, he would have known this straight away.

But as I say, I'm not too fussed, I can't please everyone.

foxirox
08-28-2018, 04:50 AM
Is anyone else having issues with their connection lately? Mine is being a nightmare and the phone support from Niteflirt is terrible. My customers are telling me that they can hear my voice repeating itself over and over. It's happening on all my phone lines. So strange...

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-28-2018, 06:17 AM
I agree it's important - I'm not denying that, but from my personal experience - it's less of a factor when I cam on NF, but definitely more of a factor when it's just phonesex (on NF) On AW - I only offer phonesex and it's never an issue. In fact, (without blowing my own trumpet), I get a ton of compliments both on AW and NF about my voice because I do loads of hypnosis, so I train it. I probably should state that I'm British on NF, because I do on AW, but if the guy is specifically looking for an American or Canadian sounding flirt, good for him. I'm definitely not going to beat myself up about it. In fact, just this very second I had a guy call me on NF, the brief conversation went like this : Hello Roxy, Oh, I see you're a British woman, errrmm, errr, that's nice. Take Care', puts the phone down. If he had read my feedback, he would have known this straight away.

But as I say, I'm not too fussed, I can't please everyone.

Being British can be a selling tool. Try writing it into your listing a few times and add a Union Jack to your page. Also mention your British accent in your tagline. It may sound cheesy but it works. According to a study the top three most desired accents were 1. British 2. American and 3. Irish

Its funny because accents arent all the same when you enter a country.


Is anyone else having issues with their connection lately? Mine is being a nightmare and the phone support from Niteflirt is terrible. My customers are telling me that they can hear my voice repeating itself over and over. It's happening on all my phone lines. So strange...

My lines were clear. Sometimes phone connections happen to people regionally.

queenelayliah
08-28-2018, 08:47 AM
Hi, so I searched through this forum but I dont see anything so heres my question. How does one make a 'chat now button'. I want it too look just like the call now button. However i cant seem to find out how to make lately. I just hyperlink the desired text in my emails hoping this guys click on it.

BadBitch
08-30-2018, 06:52 AM
I've honestly had it with these fucking nutjob losers.

A guy just texts me. He's a new customer. He tells me that he likes roleplay where I can be a police woman. He then tells me that he's a "skanky white guy". I then ask him how old he is and where he is from (as this would help with the roleplay). He tells me his age and then I start getting into the roleplay in the chat. He says, "BRB" then fucking blocks me.

What the fuck??? I'm tired of these men with fucking issues being fucking babies and then I think that I'M doing something wrong!

Paradoxx
08-30-2018, 08:43 AM
I've honestly had it with these fucking nutjob losers.

A guy just texts me. He's a new customer. He tells me that he likes roleplay where I can be a police woman. He then tells me that he's a "skanky white guy". I then ask him how old he is and where he is from (as this would help with the roleplay). He tells me his age and then I start getting into the roleplay in the chat. He says, "BRB" then fucking blocks me.

What the fuck??? I'm tired of these men with fucking issues being fucking babies and then I think that I'M doing something wrong!

If it's worth any consolation, one reason he could've blocked you is because apparently guys have been doing this a lot via chat (according to the NF forum). They've just been blocking girls at random, presumably to avoid the per-volley fees since we only get paid when we respond, obviously. I had one guy block me after sending a "hey" via chat and I swore it was because I was available overnight and it took me a few hours to reply. However, I've never had an issue with guys waiting for me to respond to chats in the morning, sometimes even the next day. But it makes sense that he simply wanted to get off on saying hello and then block me before I could get his precious $0.69 for it lmao.

So that could definitely be a reason a guy just runs mid-convo - could simply be being cheap as hell. I highly doubt you're the problem and it sucks when these guys do shit like this and make us think that we are.

scarletl
08-30-2018, 05:39 PM
Being British can be a selling tool. Try writing it into your listing a few times and add a Union Jack to your page. Also mention your British accent in your tagline. It may sound cheesy but it works. According to a study the top three most desired accents were 1. British 2. American and 3. Irish

Its funny because accents arent all the same when you enter a country.



My lines were clear. Sometimes phone connections happen to people regionally.

That's true actually. My British accent is probably one that people will think of when you mention British which is that typical London accent. However, I do speak pretty fast and there may be a chance they just cannot understand what I'm saying.
I did once openly mention I am a Brit on my listings. May give that one more try and see the difference.

caramelcraze
08-31-2018, 01:00 AM
That's true actually. My British accent is probably one that people will think of when you mention British which is that typical London accent. However, I do speak pretty fast and there may be a chance they just cannot understand what I'm saying.
I did once openly mention I am a Brit on my listings. May give that one more try and see the difference.

Put it in your tagline so that's the first thing they see. it will attract people looking for that accent specifically. Had a "southern sweetheart" listing I used for a while and you'd better believe I got calls for that reason specifically. Guys do looks for specific things

scarletl
09-01-2018, 11:32 AM
I just did my monthly calculations (and this is pretty much around the same numbers each month) and it just doesn't seem right.

I made $xxx amount on NF and this is my 70% cut. I calculated that 33% of that goes back into bidding. (My LVS isn't good so it costs me normally $1.50+ to be in the first 12 of my category) and then because Niteflirt are so behind in the world and I am a UK girl, the cheque takes ten years to get to me so I go on dailypay and lose another 10% to them (which I don't begrudge as much as this was my choice)

So I am left with a measly 27% cut. This feels so disheartening, is this even worth it. Regardless of increasing my earnings on niteflirt, kinda no point when most of it isn't going to me anyway. I have attempted to spent less on bidding but then I don't get much clicks and then less sales.

This isn't right or normal though is it to be left with such little %?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-01-2018, 12:43 PM
I just did my monthly calculations (and this is pretty much around the same numbers each month) and it just doesn't seem right.

I made $xxx amount on NF and this is my 70% cut. I calculated that 33% of that goes back into bidding. (My LVS isn't good so it costs me normally $1.50+ to be in the first 12 of my category) and then because Niteflirt are so behind in the world and I am a UK girl, the cheque takes ten years to get to me so I go on dailypay and lose another 10% to them (which I don't begrudge as much as this was my choice)

So I am left with a measly 27% cut. This feels so disheartening, is this even worth it. Regardless of increasing my earnings on niteflirt, kinda no point when most of it isn't going to me anyway. I have attempted to spent less on bidding but then I don't get much clicks and then less sales.

This isn't right or normal though is it to be left with such little %?

Scarlet you should be able to cut down on the bidding. Spending that much regularily isnt good if you aren't making it back plus a profit. When I do bid, If it's more than .50 then I don't do it. Thats my personal limit. I try to look at my other listings to see what those bids are and what the competition looks like. Create a new listing in a less saturated category if you have to. Increase the camscore aka lvs for that listing and then try again with the one that's at $1.50 per bid. Maybe by then you'll have gained more exposure without bidding.

Im hearing from more and more people that marketing exclusively on NF is getting more complicated. I try to remind them that some offsite marketing is required. If you have a website with a page dedicated to niteflirt can help guys with accounts choose that option when they find your website. It also brings more customers to the site. Or you can send them through a different processor with a higher payout.

scarletl
09-01-2018, 12:57 PM
Scarlet you should be able to cut down on the bidding. Spending that much regularily isnt good if you aren't making it back plus a profit. When I do bid, If it's more than .50 then I don't do it. Thats my personal limit. I try to look at my other listings to see what those bids are and what the competition looks like. Create a new listing in a less saturated category if you have to. Increase the camscore aka lvs for that listing and then try again with the one that's at $1.50 per bid. Maybe by then you'll have gained more exposure without bidding.

Im hearing from more and more people that marketing exclusively on NF is getting more complicated. I try to remind them that some offsite marketing is required. If you have a website with a page dedicated to niteflirt can help guys with accounts choose that option when they find your website. It also brings more customers to the site. Or you can send them through a different processor with a higher payout.

Thank you so much for the advice, going to give this a try. What is the best way to increase the LVS score? Is it from most calls/most money spent on calls/people buying mails from listings or doesn't it matter what avenue it comes from?

sarahlove
09-01-2018, 05:59 PM
Thank you so much for the advice, going to give this a try. What is the best way to increase the LVS score? Is it from most calls/most money spent on calls/people buying mails from listings or doesn't it matter what avenue it comes from?

LVS focuses on conversion. If you have a PTV on your listing that they can click and buy then you converted them. If you have a $.69 voice sample and they click and buy it then you converted. If you send them an introduction email when they favorite you and it includes links to goodie bags then you can convert them. LVS is based on how many of those clicks you are buying convert. Don't just rely on calls. In fact I don't really take calls anymore. I made $140 in chat in 1.5 hours last night with 2 customers who were tributing (I do financial domination)

I do not know how chat is working with LVS. My guess is that it is not a factor because they can't leave feedback on it and the rotation of the chat cards is different than the profiles for the calls.

queenelayliah
09-02-2018, 03:08 AM
I have three questions for everyone
1) has niteflirt been dead for anyone else for the last week? All three profiles are barely getting calls and im in the top 20 or 60 depending on my listing.
2) how do you get to thr niteflirt forums?
3) How does you make a 'chat now button'. I want it too look just like the call now button. However i cant seem to find out how to do it.

caramelcraze
09-02-2018, 05:42 AM
I just did my monthly calculations (and this is pretty much around the same numbers each month) and it just doesn't seem right.

I made $xxx amount on NF and this is my 70% cut. I calculated that 33% of that goes back into bidding. (My LVS isn't good so it costs me normally $1.50+ to be in the first 12 of my category) and then because Niteflirt are so behind in the world and I am a UK girl, the cheque takes ten years to get to me so I go on dailypay and lose another 10% to them (which I don't begrudge as much as this was my choice)

So I am left with a measly 27% cut. This feels so disheartening, is this even worth it. Regardless of increasing my earnings on niteflirt, kinda no point when most of it isn't going to me anyway. I have attempted to spent less on bidding but then I don't get much clicks and then less sales.

This isn't right or normal though is it to be left with such little %?

Uffduh! that's a really high percentage. I have $10 to play around with every time i get on niteflirt. rarely do I use even a quarter of it. Become strategic with it: If you have one listing that tends to do really well, start bidding heavily with that listing. maybe consider lowering your prices for a week as well so you can wrack up some ranking. Are you in FinDom by any chance? I know i had one hell of a time trying to get a listing off the ground in that category... as in 50% of my bidding went towards it daily and it took a lot for me to convert people for some reason. spent close to $250 over a few months just in bidding on that specific listing. The second I took down the listing and put those funds towards other listings, BOOM! that extra bit of money that would've gone towards findom bidding ended up making my earnings go up by 30%.

caramelcraze
09-02-2018, 05:50 AM
I have three questions for everyone
1) has niteflirt been dead for anyone else for the last week? All three profiles are barely getting calls and im in the top 20 or 60 depending on my listing.
2) how do you get to thr niteflirt forums?
3) How does you make a 'chat now button'. I want it too look just like the call now button. However i cant seem to find out how to do it.

1) it was quiet for me until just before payday. It's been quite busy for me since.
2) https://forum.niteflirt.com/
3) I looked through the main article on chat and couldn't find anything. perhaps ask in their forum if you don't get an answer here. here's the link I was talking about https://support.niteflirt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115011018107-Chat-with-Your-Customers

scarletl
09-02-2018, 09:50 AM
Thank you Caramel and Sarah x

ravenskyy
09-02-2018, 10:55 AM
I finally recorded greetings for all of my listings! Now to make some recorded listings and get this passive income!

MaryElizabeth
09-02-2018, 12:08 PM
August is slower than other times of the year, there are sporting events, bbq's, people on vacation, more reasons to be outside. I'll make as much in one week in February as I will in 3 weeks in August. Its just a bit of seasonal fluxuation.

I know this is pervasive since my ranking compared to other flirts doesn't go down much but the income level does. If no one is calling or texting just feel free to log of and go for a bike ride.

Have a good holiday weekend.
MM

sarahlove
09-02-2018, 04:34 PM
I wanted to put out some chat thoughts since someone asked about them. Chat is where I am earning a ton of money.

1. I chat like I text my friends.
2. I send out hello chats for free (as in I start the conversation with guys I have already chatted with)
3. I sent out a list of things they could chat me about (to all my customers when chat first started)
4. I told them I do not respond to e-mails with anything but a link to chat.
5. I always respond to chats. Every time. Even if I miss the 24 hr thing
6. I am into financial domination. I demand tributes
7. I look at dick pics.. then I say "want to know what I think, it is $19.99 for a one min MP3" otherwise I give them ZERO reaction
8. I have several hundred goodie bags. When a guy chats with me I say "go buy some goodie bags so I know what you are into"
9. I am noticing I give a more GFE with chat because I can re read what we talked about and they feel like I care
10. I copy and paste messages to them all every day and treat it like we are "friends"
11. I never act like I don't want to chat. Every customer service industry that is successful makes the customer feel wanted

ravenskyy
09-03-2018, 08:16 AM
I seriously hate fetishes, especially Domme related fetishes. I just got my first bad review and it's brought down my entire mood. This guy said I was "Boring, Lacked Imagination and I took to long to make it hot". Seriously!? I was trying to get to know this asshole. I'm not a mind reader! How am I supposed to know what you like without getting to know you? And if he wanted me to get right into it, he should have specified. I'm removing myself from these types of categories. I don't like the customers and idk what these idiots want. 90% of these guys are just time wasters anyway, so it's not a loss.

Paradoxx
09-03-2018, 10:42 AM
I seriously hate fetishes, especially Domme related fetishes. I just got my first bad review and it's brought down my entire mood. This guy said I was "Boring, Lacked Imagination and I took to long to make it hot". Seriously!? I was trying to get to know this asshole. I'm not a mind reader! How am I supposed to know what you like without getting to know you? And if he wanted me to get right into it, he should have specified. I'm removing myself from these types of categories. I don't like the customers and idk what these idiots want. 90% of these guys are just time wasters anyway, so it's not a loss.

I'd like to think I'm pretty intuitive, but some of these idiots lack all ability to articulate their desires. Either that, or they get off on this bizarro idea that all Dominatrices are ice cold telepaths, so if you ask questions in an effort to placate them, they see that as you submitting or being too eager to please them which ruins their fantasy, and if you take a wild guess and completely miss the mark... it ruins their fantasy. They're so annoying.

The way I've dealt with callers like this in the past is by finding a way to get the information out of them while still maintaining a position of power.

For instance:
Instead of, "What do you like?" I always start with, "How do you intend to serve me?" Most follow-up with their fetish and then obviously, that gives me a starting point.

Alternatively, if they respond with something dumb and vague like, "I'm just a loser, Goddess." or anything else of that nature, I'll follow up with "And what makes you so pathetic?"
At that point, they're forced to give me SOMETHING specific to work with and typically in that answer, I'm able to pinpoint exactly what it is they want.

Other absurdly vague talking points:
Sub: "I want to be ruined, Goddess!"
Me: "Why should I ruin you?" (As opposed to "How?" which would imply to them that I don't know how to "ruin" them.)
For one reason or the other, they've always followed up with the method they're looking for whenever I've asked this.

Sub: "I want to worship you, Goddess!"
Me: "Why should I grant you that privilege?" (Once again, as opposed to "How?")
And once again, they typically, if not always, follow up with how they'd like to "worship" me at some point in their response.

Honestly, now that I'm focusing primarily on Findom, I've started responding to both of those with "Open your wallet." But when I was offering a wider array of fetishes, these methods were nearly foolproof for me when it came to understanding those impossible callers.

You've just gotta find a way to maintain the upper-hand while also dragging all of that need-to-know info out of them piece by piece. Submissives can be very lucrative customers, so long as you can figure out how to talk to them without "breaking the fantasy," so to say.