View Full Version : The All About Non-Nude Cammodels Thread
DonaDiabla
09-06-2016, 11:21 PM
Sylvy,
Here are some off the top of my head:
Financial Domination
Money fetish
Financial control
Feeder
BBW domination
Ebony Domination
Latina Domination
Princess
Brat
Asian Princess
Ebony Princess
Arab Princess
Latina Princess
Food Porn
Feeder
Satin
Silk
Mind Control
Mind fuck
Mind games
Hypo-control
Magic control
Erotic Magic
Sissy training
Slut training
Maledom
Gay Humiliation
Homoerotic
Forced BI
Forced Imbrication
Pin Up
Rockabilly
Love addiction (I could never break into that fetish)
Forced intoxication
Vampires
Monsters/Aliens
Mukbang
girls, i need help with the fetish category. anyone??? ideas pls!!! im running out of ideas as i already added some myself.
SylvySinclair
09-07-2016, 06:58 AM
diabla, looking forward to have u there. and ty for the categories.
hyori
09-07-2016, 08:01 AM
This is a brilliant thread. I'm a jill of all trades and offer fetish, soft sensual dom, humiliation and switch/sub shows. I like to see them as roles and sometimes I will dress up as such on certain days to feel more creative and play out the scene. I appeal to guys who are just getting into the fetish scene. They usually go onto more hardcore BDSM after me and that's fine. That in itself is a big niche.
I guess what I'm saying is that don't be afraid to offer fetish as well as vanilla if you are OK with being more versatile. I guess the only negative would be that more seasoned fetish boys won't believe that you're a true dom/sub etc.
For vanilla non-nude shows, I wear a Japanese schoolgirl uniform. Always a win.
xxxluv
09-07-2016, 10:18 AM
Tell me to mind my own, but are you ladies happy with what you make with the hours you put in? This is probably my biggest worry about going non-nude that I won't make much....although tbh I'm not making a great deal now because of a number of factors (Time, crappy laptop, bad profile, working only 1/2 sites). Going to make some big changes this next week so hopefully I will be okay. :)
I am satisfied with what I make as I am doing what I usually enjoy. I absolutely love getting a reques from a new fetish I have not heard of.
I love my guys who just want to sit in private and chat. As well as my phone sex guys who just call to hear me burp sometimes.
I know I would make more money if I was doing more vanilla work. But I am building myself as a Sensual Domme, a Tease Queen and virtual dancer and in the long run it will pay off. I think it may take longer initially to build up regulars if your in the non nude / domme / less hardcore vanilla but once you do its just as lucrative if not more.
Yes increasing, time more sites, and the best computer /speed you can have. Just have a strategy / plan!
SylvySinclair
09-07-2016, 01:43 PM
i agree with u....its harder to get successfull but once u are, u hustle way less. so its worth it to hustle more right now, to then lean back and relax.
Kruna
09-13-2017, 11:01 AM
Hi I would like to learn from you something, so me with my mini-goal of 10€ daily (seriously ;P ) .. me non-nude one.. with only one site right now.. I am thinking if I could eventually hit 100$ daily? I would be the happiest one if i could do it, cause in my country 3000$ monthly from camwork equals about 4 months of regular full time office job. I would like to ask you girls for an advice cause I see many of you have long years of experience, you are all motivated, disciplined and strong so.. I am sorry for asking also here, but maybe you could have for me some advices how to organize it, to will be in able to make 100$ daily. I believe in me and I know that it is possible for me even if i am BBW , non-nude so far and almost 40yrs old ass. ;P and also.. no native english speaker but still .. I believe in me. Just need a sincere advice. What would you do on my place when I am relative new in camwork? Thank you for this forum!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-14-2017, 02:46 PM
I combined a ton of non-nude threads that you may find useful.
Also the game has changed quite a bit. Personally I think with all the advancements in technology and all the different ways one can live stream on the internet, I think a non-nude model may want to also look into going mainstream. Build a fanbase doing something you love and then do whatever yoy want with that following. The sky is the limit.
Kruna
09-15-2017, 01:51 AM
I combined a ton of non-nude threads that you may find useful.
Also the game has changed quite a bit. Personally I think with all the advancements in technology and all the different ways one can live stream on the internet, I think a non-nude model may want to also look into going mainstream. Build a fanbase doing something you love and then do whatever yoy want with that following. The sky is the limit.
Thank you! :) Yesterday and today I am sitting and reading everything in stripper web :) Awesome place :) Awesome people!
malika29
04-25-2018, 12:12 PM
Hey all,
Do you think its still worth doing non nude camming or is that pretty much a finished niche now? I know thete are a few dommes that do non nude but what about the vanilla or fetish side?
SylvySinclair
04-25-2018, 01:33 PM
Hi
Im a non nude femdom and i dont take vanilla shows at all, so for me it works, not sure it will for you if you offer vanilla shows as well.
Paradoxx
04-25-2018, 01:57 PM
I, too, am a non-nude Domme. I offer nudity (which is typically, if not always, just a flash) at my own discretion and for high tips/tributes. I've only been camming and doing PSO since January, but I've been making more and more each month, so I can definitely say it works well for me. But like Sylvy, I don't offer vanilla shows at all -- at least not without an insanely increased rate. I've heard of a few girls (that aren't femdoms IIRC) on MFC and CB doing non-nude shows, but they usually play an instrument or perform some sort of talent/other act. Really makes me wish I would've kept up with piano lessons when I was younger lmfao, but I love being a Pro-Domme so I'm content. :)
seashell
04-25-2018, 02:11 PM
There's a non-nude girl I watch on MFC, I think her name is Ashley Tea. She streams constantly on different sites, and is really big on keeping in touch with her fans. I think if you're super dedicated, you can do non-nude vanilla... but you have to really sell yourself. You can do non-nude clips, membership sites, etc.
I'm gradually becoming a non-nude domme, mostly because the customers are SO much better. I think it's absolutely worth trying out non-nude.
scarletl
04-25-2018, 04:17 PM
I certainly think there is still a big gap in the market for non-nude models. Thousands of naked girls online, these men have no shortage of pussy. Another pussy is another pussy to them. The reason most men stick within a girls room is because they enjoy hanging out with her.
Plenty of men online looking for "the girlfriend experience" and are willing to pay for that kind of attention.
This may only work on free chat sites (MFC/CB but I'd say more so MFC)
You gotta be good with your tease to lure the guys in
Be bubbly/share your personality
Be prepared to deal with needy men (more needy when looking for the GF experience)
DonaDiabla
04-25-2018, 08:57 PM
Well, I have been an non-nude domme for the past couple of years and works for me. That been said, you can have great success as vanilla non-nude cam if you have great talent or musical skills. However,it could work if you offer more of girlfriend experience. Or if you become an psychic cam model on Oranum and other psychic camming sites. But, you would need some sort of tarot card experience before you start there. Best of luck. :)
Teddy_Bear
04-29-2018, 06:44 PM
I make more money with my clothes on than off and always have although I offer nude shows so either they don't like to see me naked or they fall for our personality and not our physical appearance - the second one is much more likely not to toot my own horn or anything like that :)
malika29
05-01-2018, 11:21 AM
Thank you all for the inspiration on this. Seashell, i follow her on twitter but really need to sit and watch some shows. I have ideas on some of the things i want to implement which would work great in a gfe way. Btw u dont play an instrument or sing only badly haha.
Dona- i dont think you can do psychic type shows on adult platforms but i could be wrong.
I really like the idea of making my own outfits and doing a fairytale kinda theme with it. FL has some great ideas around the princess kinda role play.
kalikitten69
05-01-2018, 12:03 PM
Same here! Once I stopped going nude all the time my profit shot up! I always just get told how much they looooove my personality lol! It's just all about being bubbly! It's a lot more fun when you're involved and actually flirting than just sitting there all quiet or begging for tips.
whirlerz
05-01-2018, 06:20 PM
Great thread! I remember this one mfc model, I cant remember her name, but she seemed to have a huge following & did well. She always wore cute lingerie/outfits, & played classy older music
scarletl
05-02-2018, 04:48 AM
Great thread! I remember this one mfc model, I cant remember her name, but she seemed to have a huge following & did well. She always wore cute lingerie/outfits, & played classy older music
Austin white?
SylvySinclair
05-02-2018, 08:18 AM
Littleredbunny has the same characteristics.
ladyglittersparklessrsly
06-06-2018, 07:48 AM
a model who has had previous success doing everything, cumshows, masturbation, etc.. do you think it would be possible to still earn an income going "non nude" just teasing and sometimes going topless?
SylvySinclair
06-06-2018, 03:22 PM
If you change the character, change the name, change the looks a bit, im sure you can. I was a vanilla model back in 2000 up to 2005 and changed all about me, to go non nude. Expect to lose your former clients though, if they are vanilla, most likely they wont get a show from you, other than, you will make new ones. Make sure to change your pics as well.
Cutie101
06-06-2018, 09:20 PM
a model who has had previous success doing everything, cumshows, masturbation, etc.. do you think it would be possible to still earn an income going "non nude" just teasing and sometimes going topless?
Yes it's possible. It's gonna be a lot of hard work and maybe more time online, till you establish a customer base, but it's doable.
I am going non nude now and even my vanilla customers accepted this. Some vanished, some stayed and they actually stay more because now, they go to other models for a quick jerk and then come back to me to conversate in private :))).
I still offer topless sessions, but nothing more than that.
I was looking at camwithher and I thought it was a little odd that they asked for two forms of ID. I kinda don't want to give out my SS card to just anyone and I just think it's really weird they would ask that for a topless site when most full nude camsites only ask for one form of ID. Can anyone vouch for how much I can trust this site?
ladyglittersparklessrsly
06-07-2018, 12:21 AM
fully, I worked there many years. no need to worry!!
scarletl
06-22-2018, 10:52 AM
Hi Ladies,
So I've always been mostly domme and catering to fetishes of all kinds during my sex career. Even on MFC I was vanilla but I did not perform sex shows for anyone, I was your typical hang out, tease, have fun kinda girl.
I decided not to go back to MFC because I can't really be doing with that kinda BS anymore. I'm all about getting my money and not fucking about for it by getting to know people etc.
So I'm going more down the privates based camming now which is slightly a new world for me. I cam on adultwork and SM mainly. After a week or so of just broadening my horizons more and accepting the vanilla guys and doing sexy shows for them. I can't help but feel SO uneasy with these guys. I find them so rude and demanding and I feel like a dancing monkey for them.
Does anyone feel this way about these guys? Does anyone/is it possible to just cater to the femdom/fetish guys only for camming and still make $200-$300 a day?
I have no issue being naked or even doing sexual shows. Just not these demanding assholes who keep telling me how to perform a show for them.
seashell
06-22-2018, 11:26 AM
Hi Ladies,
So I've always been mostly domme and catering to fetishes of all kinds during my sex career. Even on MFC I was vanilla but I did not perform sex shows for anyone, I was your typical hang out, tease, have fun kinda girl.
I decided not to go back to MFC because I can't really be doing with that kinda BS anymore. I'm all about getting my money and not fucking about for it by getting to know people etc.
So I'm going more down the privates based camming now which is slightly a new world for me. I cam on adultwork and SM mainly. After a week or so of just broadening my horizons more and accepting the vanilla guys and doing sexy shows for them. I can't help but feel SO uneasy with these guys. I find them so rude and demanding and I feel like a dancing monkey for them.
Does anyone feel this way about these guys? Does anyone/is it possible to just cater to the femdom/fetish guys only for camming and still make $200-$300 a day?
I have no issue being naked or even doing sexual shows. Just not these demanding assholes who keep telling me how to perform a show for them.
When I do cam shows, it's almost exclusively femdom & fetish. You can definitely make $200+, especially if you're branching out with Skype/Discord shows. I haven't cammed on SM in a while, but I think you really need to make it clear that you're a fetish cammodel, and allow some time to build your customer base.
I still do shows with vanilla guys who are respectful. But overall, fetish customers are much better spenders, and tend to be more pleasant to work with.
Paradoxx
06-22-2018, 11:42 AM
I felt the same exact way when I started out in January. I don't use penetrative toys in my personal life, so I started out as a bubbly vanilla GFE type who did the teasing and such too; I started this way on SM and NF. Long story short, it was MISERABLE. I was getting good new-girl traffic, but I absolutely hated the way vanilla men treated me too, they were constantly demanding, constantly talking down to me, and just treating me like shit even when they'd pay. I felt awful no matter how much money I'd make and the negative experience is what partially inspired me to go from marketing as a kinky/nice switch to a full-time Dominatrix.
I can't tell you about long term earnings as I'm still new, but when I actually hustle + clock in long hours, $200 a day has been nearly guaranteed for me with indy camming, PSO, + SM combined. It's my low daily goal. I also advertise as a hardcore Domme and offer very little sensual services and I feel like when I do decide to get sensual or partially nude, this makes me attract men who are willing to respect me while I do that.
I've heard of vanilla girls having wonderful regulars and I'm sure over time they're developed, there were definitely nicer vanilla guys on NF for me personally. But I find it a hell of a lot easier to just be a Domme and aggressively lay down the law from the get go. As soon as I made the transition, my earnings skyrocketed, they didn't plummet, so hopefully that'll be your experience too.
scarletl
06-22-2018, 11:57 AM
Thanks ladies. After reading these I instantly hopped onto my AW profile and made it clear how I do my shows.
I've always done femdom but more so in making clips/NF calls. I never really have experienced doing it on camsites (only clients from video clip sales etc)
I have experiences nice vanilla guys on MFC who expected nothing in return at all for their huge tips and guys who really just appreciated the sexual shows I decided to do. But I find those guys to be SO rare.
I'm glad to hear there is money to be made on these camming sites for what I want to do.
What do you ladies do if someone comes into your room (hasn't read your profile) and is expecting vanilla stuff?
Paradoxx
06-22-2018, 12:20 PM
What do you ladies do if someone comes into your room (hasn't read your profile) and is expecting vanilla stuff?
I tell them to fuck off lmfao. No, but honestly since I expect guys on SM to be more accustomed to vanilla, I just tell them straight up that I'm a Domme and that I don't offer submissive services (including but not limited to masturbating for them). I fully expect them to leave after I tell them that 'cause I'm never in the mood to argue about it, but if they persist, my most recent trick to luring them into exclusive is offering one of the "softer" fetishes like JOI/JOE or body worship. I hold off on the humiliation/brutality for these guys unless they ask to try it and surprisingly, quite a few of them do out of curiosity alone.
Now when I get overtly "dominant" men, I usually have to insta-ban to get them to shut up, but sometimes they like the "challenge" and usually accept defeat by taking me to a chattier/ more hangout exclusive since femdom of any sort doesn't do it for them sexually, but they like my look. This has happened a few times now and it's always been pleasant, they've usually got lots of questions and can't believe guys pay for what I generally offer lmao.
Cutie101
04-30-2019, 06:27 PM
Alright, so... I am officially going non nude.
Lately I feel no desire to get naked anymore, nor performing any type of sexual shows, so... after some research, I've seen that there are non nude camgirls, who are actually earning a fortune.
With that being said, I realised there's no recent thread here, to share impressions with other non nude sw's!
I am aware the work is twice harder and the clients are twice less, but I'm in it. As time as there are girls who are succesful at this, I believe I can be too!
So, feel free to share here your experience, ups and downs, tips and tricks about non nude camming!!
Cheers!
sexysusie
04-30-2019, 06:47 PM
It's not twice as hard. I actually never set out to be non nude but as I'm moving into mainly a domme role i no longer even find guys have the expectation for nudity! I'm earning the same as i ever was, sometimes more. I always try to maintain the impression of this sensual but untouchable Goddess that they want but cant have, they're not good enough to see my naked body. I'm surprised how easy it is actually. If i wasn't chanelling the whole domme goddess thing and was still trying to be sexy girl next door i don't know how well this would work. But having said that i think if you have a 'thing' about you, something you are great at, you can really carry an entire show on it and the guys are just so happy they don't even feel like nudity is an issue. Like i use my voice A LOT. Now it's for hypnosis and asmr etc but before i just reamed off tons and tons of sexy sensual erotic storylines and filthy dirty talk, all while moving my body suggestively and asking them questions to keep them talking. I never really needed to get naked except when i wanted to.
So my tips are:
Have a speciality/specialisms
Lead the show yourself/always be leading
Use your voice to do a lot of the work
Be confident that they want YOU regardless of nudity
If you are not a domme use your best assets to do all the work ie your voice, your cleavage, your ass in panties etc
cyberstripper
04-30-2019, 11:03 PM
I have earned more money being a non nude fetish model/domme than I ever did offering vanilla shows. They look at you differently no doubt about it and treat you better and it sets you apart. You may get hated on a lot, but it is not you. Guys form expectations in their head and lump us all in the same bunch. When they are used to getting certain shows and they just hop into your room and make demands, and you tell them you are non nude they may react negatively to it.....but it is not your fault. I have this happen at least once a week. If they get upset, I tell them point blank that it is not my fault they did not familiarize myself with the services I provide and they usually become very understanding. I then usually do a tease and if they spend 15 mins or more in the pvt, then I will give them a pity titty or some pity pussy.
You may still have certain times you will go nude, but it is more in your control and that is why I went this route. I do go nude if I have a whale of a client...but I can be more selective. When I first made the transition my vanilla fans actually liked the fact that I was able to be more selective. Fans want you to be happy and if you are not doing toy and more extreme shows so be it. They will see that you are much happier just being "you" and if you lose some you will gain others.
Camming is not just about hardcore sessions and sex. Men cam because they are lonely and crave the intimacy and interaction they are lacking in their normal lives mostly. The sexual aspects are just an added benefit. They can see nudity anywhere online. If this was the only factor cam models would never exist due to the availability of porn in the past and currently. It would be the opposite, porn would be more prevalent but I feel camming has hurt the porn industry more than anything. As we all know, many porn stars cam to supplement their income and interact with their fans.
Other avenues of the industry, like escorting...many very successful escorts never sleep with their clients for money and never will. They often out earn escorts that do.
Cutie101
05-01-2019, 02:29 PM
Thanks a lot, girls, I am really scared about this and yeah, I guess I need to go fetish, rather than hot flirt/ non nude section of the sites :)))) I'll come up with updates in a while!
For more than sure, your inputs have helped me a whole lot!!!
Miss_ShaSha
05-02-2019, 06:41 AM
Good for you for wanting change. You can pull this off. I'm a Domme & 98% of my shows are non-nude. I am a foot model & specialize in foot play. I very rarely show my full nude body & do well.
I have to agree with voice being important to sales. Men compliment with how soothing my voice is. & it works well for hypnosis shows.
SoloDesire
05-02-2019, 07:08 AM
I'm not non-nude but I am a Domme. I rarely ever take off anything though. And when I do I make them ask, and they have to ask nicely lol. It really cuts down on guys expecting a hardcore show since I don't ever take clothing off until I feel they deserve to see more. If they are demanding or rude then I don't take anything off. Just because they are in paid chat doesn't mean you owe them anything that you didn't agree to before hand. It's a power trip I enjoy immensely lol.
izshadow
05-02-2019, 11:39 AM
I'm actually starting to go in this direction. I was going to actually update myself to be more non-nude or nude but only watching you jack off for me. I am non-penetration as it is though did offer it for block sessions since those are rare. I'm naturally not sexual and even though I'm good at faking, its exhausting.
Cutie101
05-02-2019, 12:07 PM
Good for you for wanting change. You can pull this off. I'm a Domme & 98% of my shows are non-nude. I am a foot model & specialize in foot play. I very rarely show my full nude body & do well.
I have to agree with voice being important to sales. Men compliment with how soothing my voice is. & it works well for hypnosis shows.
Haha, I hate my voice, but guys love it! I will definately buy a blue yeti mic for a better experience. I already talked to my photographer to shoot a full fetish session, so I can update all my accounts and start fresh! Thanks for your input!
Miss_ShaSha
05-02-2019, 12:21 PM
^^Yesssss! Sultry fetish images will attract what you want. My images are non-nude with my main image showcasing my feet. I draw many foot fetish men my way because of this.
Bet: you will attract your target audience.
So excited for you!
JackAlexander
05-02-2019, 02:57 PM
Other avenues of the industry, like escorting...many very successful escorts never sleep with their clients for money and never will. They often out earn escorts that do.
you know, come to think of it you are so right! I recall when I was not looking for sugar daddies they were coming out of the woodwork and I never did anything past kissing and was handed pretty close to everything I wanted. Hell I never had a want, they always asked me what would make me happy, I say a purple convertible or a credit card and POOF like magic.
That was when I was 19 and I am now 42, but you really have me thinking here.... a lot.... Thank you for this response.
Miss_ShaSha
05-02-2019, 04:43 PM
Cutie, case in point: made high goal clothed today. No nudity. You got this!
Cutie101
05-03-2019, 06:34 PM
Cutie, case in point: made high goal clothed today. No nudity. You got this!
Oh yes!!! I am so happy to hear that!!
Btw, what are your rates on SM?
Miss_ShaSha
05-04-2019, 09:47 AM
^^Low. I asked for a rate increase. Nothing yet. I took 6 years off. I hope in the next few months they'll grant higher options.
Premium: $6.99
Exclusive: $7.99
__SavingGrace
05-09-2019, 03:22 PM
Omg, YES YES YES! :P
Love that this is a thread. I'm so excited to exchange tips & tricks. I'm in :)
whirlerz
05-10-2019, 01:15 PM
I would like to give this a shot.
Anyone mind sharing what sites are good?
Thank you!:-*
Miss_ShaSha
05-10-2019, 01:51 PM
I'm exclusively on SM and although I'm not established as non-nude on the site, about 98% of my shows are non-nude. I am a Domme however, and make my money on footplay (toe spreads, toe clamps, toe curls, foot flexing, wrinkled soles, stinky socks, hypno, JOI, CEI, SPH, and cuckold plus taboo RP). I MIGHT show my pussy about 1 in 20 shows. And I never dildo myself to death. Actually, that 1 in 20 pussy play show is usually a JOI with my g-spot vibrator. I never shove it up my pussy.
Hope that helps.
whirlerz
05-10-2019, 03:13 PM
Wow, thanks
SylvySinclair
05-10-2019, 05:35 PM
I love this thread as I was non nude for a long long time and now more into the sexy femdom thing...Still, I also dont take my clothes off im 80% of my shows and I love it.
I had a thread about this same exact subject, but i think is lost somewhere in limbo....lol
whirlerz
05-10-2019, 05:47 PM
No, I was just reading it, on my laptop!
It's a GREAT thread, as this one is.
I'm going going to find it, & bump it up!
whirlerz
05-10-2019, 05:49 PM
Bumpy bump