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SexyAleks
03-10-2014, 08:29 PM
They all seem very low to me apart from the 1.2 eur/min but you need 6 members watching at the same time I guess (private x 6)? Anything else looks very low, and that's Switzerland where they have one of the highest wages in the world. Not cool.
AliceFun
03-10-2014, 08:46 PM
I wait on them to approve me, i will report back, believe me i prefer some traffic and nice income if it's adding up even prices are lower but it's euros, much more valuable in my country compared to US dollars. I dont wanna screw up my 'reputation' on SM by lowering my prices (it's hard to get them back up if u do so) but try different hrs on xmodels if they approve me. I am nervous cause i got rejected by another camsite for no apparent reason, u never know with these sites. Let's wait & see.
JenniferNorth
03-11-2014, 11:10 PM
I've signed up with Visit-X and X-Models, I'll let everyone know how it goes. No high hopes or anything, just trying to add to my bottom line here.
Fitandpretty
03-12-2014, 11:12 AM
I've signed up with Visit-X and X-Models, I'll let everyone know how it goes. No high hopes or anything, just trying to add to my bottom line here.
I am already with Xmodels and have been for a while now. I put in for Visit X too just to add more eggs to my basket :) The one thing that I dont like about Visit X is that they have chargebacks. I wonder if they have a lot of them..
JenniferNorth
03-12-2014, 11:20 AM
^, Girl I am ALL about the eggs here! Just been feeling stressed because BF is out of a job, we need to move...every little penny helps. If I can split these two with IML and have regular shows on MFC as well as Indy shows, I'm hoping it helps. Yeah its low pay, but you can have these going while doing cam girl admin stuff!
Fitandpretty
03-12-2014, 11:57 AM
Jennifer xcams is pretty busy, I do pretty well on there. Plus you can record and sell your private shows. I have people that view mine everyday. I have had low and high paying days there but I always make my payout within a day or so. It's pretty high for us in the US. Almost 140 dollars but like I said its easy to make on there
laurielegs
03-12-2014, 12:06 PM
any updates on this?
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169532-Do-not-work-for-xmodels&p=2292031#post2292031
Pretty disturbing but since now you are recommending the site I assume they paid you?
Fitandpretty
03-12-2014, 12:24 PM
I saw those posts too when researching cam sites. I assume she was paid or it was rectified in some way, otherwise I'm sure she wouldn't recommend it. They have not done me wrong, I can't wait to throw Visit -x in the mix or cam mansion since it's similar
JenniferNorth
03-12-2014, 12:30 PM
So X cams is different than X model? Dumb question I know haha
AliceFun
03-12-2014, 12:34 PM
Well i got approved on xmodels but i find the site pretty dead, i had no people in my room, maybe 5 guys in total hit my room within 2 hrs on and off? I tried free chat and group, one swiss guy entered group for a few mins, we were chatting a little then i asked him what he is into and he left and another one took me into group chat for few secs, did not talk to me and left, from these two guys i made 1.58 euros, how pathetic that is!
I dont know man, i was clothed as i always am, wearing sexy dress & looking put together like always, hair done, make up, room nice, good lighting, etc, i saw girls being nude in their rooms there masturbating with toys or fingering themselves, open legs with genitalia open, etc, if this is the norm & the way to attract people in paid then that site is not my cup of tea.
Also, i installed their xmodels HD streamer (without the streamer u stream from browser with 320x240 resolution & get a poor score they say), after installation the software simply fails to load, i get an error i dont know what it means, i uninstall & install 3 times, still the same bloody error, i emailed their support, no answer yet, if i cant get the hd software to work then it's not worth for me to be on that site.
Adobe HD encoder is a 'small baby' compared with their xmodels software, it took a while to install the thing & a huge folder was created in my system with alot of subfolders & files, still the damn thing is not working. WTF?
Not going to stream in ancient old resolution & have nobody in my room, i have an i5 desktop pc, great HD wide cam & good wired connection, on any other site i am able to stream in true HD but their software is a crazy piece of thing! WHOA! Must be my bad luck again!
ETA: so i just figured out, people sitting in nude chat doing shows or just waiting for customers CAN BE SEEN for a few seconds by everyone by just hoovering with mouse over their picture in models list, WHAT THE F***K!!! I assume only when in true private u get privacy actually! No way i am signing in there again!
Fitandpretty
03-12-2014, 01:10 PM
I can't use their steamer because I have a MAC and it's brand new lol.
JuliaX
03-12-2014, 04:06 PM
I am camming part time only, so take it with a grain of salt. The numbers are based on 5 months experience with visit-x, but they can vary I guess. Appr. 85 % of my money comes from visit itself, the rest is from parnersites and phone access where you do not have chargebacks (but get 42 cents/min only... therefore I choose to move much slower). I had appr. 1,3 % chargeback (well... actually 2,7 %, but they got 1,4 % back and you see which customer is involved), that means if you make 1000 € your cut, you can expect around 13 € chargeback, after it balances itself out. I actually have a customer who usually spends 15 € (my cut), then it is pending 4-5 days, then i get a chargeback and in a further week the money arrives :-). Some weeks are just tough (like the first week on January when I had around 40 € chargeback and got 25 back a bit later), but I have not had any since then. Knocks on wood. For me it is annoying but still worth, but it is up to you.
I am already with Xmodels and have been for a while now. I put in for Visit X too just to add more eggs to my basket :) The one thing that I dont like about Visit X is that they have chargebacks. I wonder if they have a lot of them..
Fitandpretty
03-12-2014, 04:10 PM
I am camming part time only, so take it with a grain of salt. The numbers are based on 5 months experience with visit-x, but they can vary I guess. Appr. 85 % of my money comes from visit itself, the rest is from parnersites and phone access where you do not have chargebacks (but get 42 cents/min only... therefore I choose to move much slower). I had appr. 1,3 % chargeback (well... actually 2,7 %, but they got 1,4 % back and you see which customer is involved), that means if you make 1000 € your cut, you can expect around 13 € chargeback, after it balances itself out. I actually have a customer who usually spends 15 € (my cut), then it is pending 4-5 days, then i get a chargeback and in a further week the money arrives :-). Some weeks are just tough (like the first week on January when I had around 40 € chargeback and got 25 back a bit later), but I have not had any since then. Knocks on wood. For me it is annoying but still worth, but it is up to you.
Oh I am gonna give it a try! I am already signed up :) thank you for the info!!!
AliceFun
03-12-2014, 04:52 PM
Why do i see xmodels girls masturbating when i hoover the mouse over their pics in models list pls? Fitandpretty, can u give me some more insight pls? Or if u dont wanna type here let me know & i PM you. I just want to figure out how things work, u guys working the site are ok with how things are there? Maybe that's how u hustle ur rooms while in nude chat so u attract members in? Or what i see is part of a paid chat, u offer shows to paying members actually? You guys say u have business there but why i dont get members in my room even i am in freechat for example? Cant be that i look soo bad that nobody is interested in me considering i am new there? Must be the way u hustle ur rooms, this is very new thing to me cause they say no sex play in freechat but then i see glimpse of sex play while girls are in nude chat & dont know why i see this, pls enlighten me.
I think others could benefit from the informations we share here, Ty!
Fitandpretty
03-12-2014, 05:00 PM
Alice I will p.m. you hun :)
Milaa
03-12-2014, 05:20 PM
Sorry for my late reply, I havent been on SW since my last post here.
After A LOT of work I finally got paid from x-modelling yeah.
Then about 6 months later they got taken over by someone else. Since x-modelling has a new owner a lot has changed for the best.
more traffic - more options to make money (videos pictures etc).
There is a simple solution to get traffic on x-modelling.com and that is set Dutch as your language along with other languages you speak.
It is a Dutch owned website so this is where you will get booming traffic from in your room.
Dutch guys are used to paid chat only and know that they have to do chit chat before there will be some skin on show.
The rude ones who want you to fuck yourself with your deskchair are usually 18 year old boys, just ignore them. The more mature guys really dont mind the chit chat and dirty talk before you show skin. Long chit chat with several group visitors before you do a cum show is how you can rake in lots of money. Make sure you take your time replying because then they will take you private.
laurielegs
03-12-2014, 05:25 PM
ahhh ok I guess this expains why some have such good traffic. I don't speak Dutch at all.
Thanks for the info about the new owners!
Fitandpretty
03-12-2014, 05:25 PM
Sorry for my late reply, I havent been on SW since my last post here.
After A LOT of work I finally got paid from x-modelling yeah.
Then about 6 months later they got taken over by someone else. Since x-modelling has a new owner a lot has changed for the best.
more traffic - more options to make money (videos pictures etc).
There is a simple solution to get traffic on x-modelling.com and that is set Dutch as your language along with other languages you speak.
It is a Dutch owned website so this is where you will get booming traffic from in your room.
Dutch guys are used to paid chat only and know that they have to do chit chat before there will be some skin on show.
The rude ones who want you to fuck yourself with your deskchair are usually 18 year old boys, just ignore them. The more mature guys really dont mind the chit chat and dirty talk before you show skin. Long chit chat with several group visitors before you do a cum show is how you can rake in lots of money. Make sure you take your time replying because then they will take you private.
You are right! A lot of them love to talk. I have done more chatting there than any site I have worked for. I talked to one guy about music for an hour last week :)
AliceFun
03-12-2014, 06:00 PM
So u girls speak dutch? That's the language u use with the dutch guys? cause i see most girls have dutch language ticked/ available but i bet many of them dont even speak dutch, i know my nationals dont, i see many studio girls working the site & the language is difficult to learn, i only speak english and ticked just english option therefore no traffic in my room, this explains it all. Ty for giving this piece of valuable info. So the dutch guys speak english too or just dutch? Is it worth it to opt in for dutch language even i dont speak it? I know, sounds silly but i wish that site to work for me as an alternative to slow times on SM.
Fitandpretty
03-12-2014, 06:34 PM
No I speak English only :)
JGB2009
03-13-2014, 12:45 AM
On xmodels....what is the syspay card and can people in the USA get it?
Also for the ones in the usa who work on the site....do u type or do u verbally talk to the clients?
Thanks....
Milaa
03-13-2014, 01:41 AM
Before x-modelling.com changed it was dutch traffic only. Then the new owner made it more Europe based but of course a lot of the dutch regulars from back then still come to the website and they LOVE to just talk and talk and talk.
X-modelling has adverts on Dutch tv at night which also brings lots of traffic.
Tick the Dutch flag even if you dont speak Dutch. Every adult Dutch person speaks English very well and it will bring you loads of extra traffic.
If you want to be extra cute and make extra minutes just be cutsie and say "maybe you can teach me some dutch then ;) "
I did that on a Spanish based website and that would give me lots of extra minutes per person because they think youre genuinly interested in them as a person which works good on Dutch traffic. Dutch guys want the GF experience.
I work on an other Dutch website (dutch girls only) and I have a lot of regulars that just want to talk about life and some dirty talk. Never take my clothes off there.
AliceFun
03-13-2014, 01:48 AM
Hey Milla, thank u for input sweetheart, how do i select another language other than english on site? I feel lost, cant figure out where i need to go and change settings, the site is complex. Ty love!
Milaa
03-13-2014, 05:51 AM
I'm not sure to be honest. I choose those settings with my registration (tick ALL the flags lol).
But it should be one of the options on your profile settings, if not email them and say you forgot to tick it.
I don't really know if there is any thread like this and if that's the case, please, erase this one!
I just wanted to know the girls who work in Europe, since most of you are from the US (and I envy youuu!). European gals, show up! What site do you think is the best for EU performers? Do yo try to do a US schedule? I don't really know what's the best time, yet... Do you have problems with your language? Do you think it's harder? Or guys usually look for US girls? Do you pay your taxes? I'm just asking... Converting the dollar to euro sucks a lot, ugh -_-
Well, I would love to hear from you! ;D
Renton
03-25-2014, 03:59 PM
Well I started on Streamate and usually I love it (not today though, yesterday I didn't either haha -_-). Token sites are not my thing, YET.
I tried a lot of different times, right now I work in the late afternoon and at night because I'm a nightowl anyway and worthless in the morning. I get waaaay more productive at night!
I've been fluent in English for... I don't even remember how long, so that wasn't a problem, no :) I do often get the feeling many guys don't enter my room because of the country code, but I have no proof this is actually true.
I pay my taxes like a good girl and I hate it haha. But yes, the conversion rate SUCKS. BALLS. :(
CurvyWinona
03-25-2014, 04:13 PM
I am an American and I live in the states, BUT I do travel and stay in the Netherlands for months from time to time. I stay at my hubby's home. So, I have two whole different sets of guys. Having auto-change to NL on my profile on SM affects a lot. More Dutch custies come see me and expect me to be very fluent in Dutch which I am really not. for American guys, they still come see me but seems like I had more guys see me when I have NL tag than when I have US tag. I guess they want to hear the different accent. I bagged up few SPENDY custies who are in Holland... one of them is a Brit living in the NL. BIGGEST SPENDER. haha.
I think you will do fine on SM from wherever you are, as long as you can speak or type in English, fluently.
yay, i'm an night owl as well, I usually work from 12 to 4, but i found one day i got more traffic in late afternoon than midnight. where you from if I can ask, renton? (btw, I've jus seen your photos and your hot as hell o_O damn!!)
yeah, I guess, but it's like you're saying... in the netherlands dutch guys come often... so there is a difference. I wish I could say I'm from the US lol
Renton
03-25-2014, 04:16 PM
yay, i'm an night owl as well, I usually work from 12 to 4, but i found one day i got more traffic in late afternoon than midnight. where you from if I can ask, renton? (btw, I've jus seen your photos and your hot as hell o_O damn!!)
aww thanks ^_^ I pm'd you!
CurvyWinona
03-25-2014, 04:16 PM
Wherever you are, you can change your location tag to other countries nearby in your profile... if you did not know. It may help you to get better group of guys. It won't hurt to try. :)
I know, the options I have are small countries and I have my country blocked, so... I don't really know.
wabisophie
03-28-2014, 10:12 AM
I would like to know how do you pay taxes actually?
I mean, to pay them you first have to justify your income. For now I only have Payoneer that doesnt do wire transfer (Im trying to see with them now if there is a chance to upgrade my account for that). I've just signed up with KinkLive who does transfers, but its the only site so far. And I just can't go on with all that cash I can get from Payoneer via ATM without raising tons of questions from my bank.
I was thinking about setting up an individual contractor kind of biz (like translator), so I can have official papers and official business name etc.
And how do you, girls, do?
I would like to know how do you pay taxes actually?
I mean, to pay them you first have to justify your income. For now I only have Payoneer that doesnt do wire transfer (Im trying to see with them now if there is a chance to upgrade my account for that). I've just signed up with KinkLive who does transfers, but its the only site so far. And I just can't go on with all that cash I can get from Payoneer via ATM without raising tons of questions from my bank.
I was thinking about setting up an individual contractor kind of biz (like translator), so I can have official papers and official business name etc.
And how do you, girls, do?
I've just done that yesterday. I used the chat they have and they changed my method from debit card to bank transfer. They even told me i could have one option for some sites and the other options for the other sites which is good for receiving money from just one person (if you're doing indy shows, for instance) and it helps if you don't want a big amount of money in just one account.
For the taxes... It depends where you from. Where I from it doesn't pay off if you don't earn big amounts. What's an individual contractor?
wabisophie
03-28-2014, 11:33 AM
Well, I guess it would be hard to talk about it as every country has its own taxes policy, business forms etc.
Im actually not sure what individual contractor exactly is, for me its the basic form of individual biz set-up. When you are alone and work for yourself (no employees), like most of freelancers. Taxes are usually less heavy in that form of business, but it also has its own limits (like you can make only XXXX per year, otherwise you have to change status and will pay more, you cant deduct anything (rent, equipement etc). So I guess its very individual.
Im in France.
Payoneer CS told me that it depends on the "partners" that send you funds, that some enable wire options and others dont. From 3 sites I work right now only one does, so I will switch to transfer at least with this one so far.
France's not a bad place to be self-employed. Mine is :(
leiaswift
03-29-2014, 01:51 AM
XCams.com Taps Douglas Richter
http://www.xbiz.com/news/177125
By Rhett Pardon
Friday, Mar 28, 2014
TEMPE, Ariz. — Longtime online marketer Douglas Richter has officially announced that he has joined XCams.com’s parent company as its web cam unit manager.
Richter, who spoke on several panels at The Phoenix Forum today and yesterday, said that after considering all of his career options XCams emerged as the obvious choice.
“As the web cam unit manager for DNXNetwork, I would be able to draw on my 16-plus years of experience in the adult industry,” Richter told XBIZ. “Plus, since most of my career was in the live vertical, it was a natural fit.
“I look forward to continuing to work with the many great partners and models I have provided service for in the past, as well, sharing with them the valuable insights I have gained. I look forward to speaking with anyone and everyone who is looking to make more money with live webcams or simply optimize their existing live offer.
Previously, for the past seven years, Richter provided strategic consulting to Adult Webmaster Empire’s affiliate programs LiveJasmin.com and CameraBoys.com. Richter also is president of web development and consulting firm Bright Guys Inc.
Richter got his start in the biz in 1997 when he went to work for adult modeling Portfolio Studios in Minneapolis, which provided photo layouts for magazines such as Men, Freshmen and Unzipped and supplied Midwest gay bars with go-go boys and headliners.
“It turned out to be more than a modeling agency because they were also one of the early live cam studios and operated a small stable of models broadcasting feeds from their digs in the warehouse district,” Richter told XBIZ in an interview in 2012. “As an early adopter to chat boards and bulletin board forums, I found the webcams beyond interesting; you could literally connect live to beautiful people from your home or office. It brought real interactivity to web chatting; people could no longer hide behind fake profile pictures.”
Richter said that the new position at XCams means a personal change as well.
“It is an exciting opportunity to relocate to Europe,” he said.
minniesoporno
03-29-2014, 01:55 AM
I know of adultwork and 121webcams
apryll11
03-30-2014, 05:54 PM
I know of adultwork and 121webcams
121webcams is a live jasmin studio, better off signup with them direct
AliceFun
03-30-2014, 11:29 PM
Hi, i posted in this thread about how i am going to work on xmodels site, i gave it a try expecting multiple users in pvt at a time at that ridiculously small fee per minute, i end up with doing 45 minutes paid time with ONE member in pvt at a time and not even a true private show. Guess how much i got for this? 9.28 euros! If i do the calculation it results i was working for approx. 0.19 eurocent per minute my share, they say the fee per minute on their site is 80 eurocent and another model in here said that is our share. Wrong, our share is a percentage off that. Pls correct me if i calculate wrong, so i have 9.28 euros and 45 min private time. I even got their card to be paid on but not going to stay on that site making peanuts when i can work for a lot more on SM or other site(s). Just a heads up to u girls, not sure what it takes to bank on that site, i know i am older, looking average and speaking english, dutch or dutch speaking girls might do better there. Maybe some of u have some tips to give, Ty!
ETA:
HA! Now is getting worse, i actually earned 4.94 euros after they deducted VAT! I see the fees they pay me, 0.20 & 0.18 eurocents/min depending where the member is from. Ha!! WTF! Speechless here!
Sunnylexie
03-31-2014, 02:37 AM
^^I used to work on there like 4 years ago when they had no freechat and it was all good until they decided they need one. Now it's just the same as Livejasmin but 20 times cheaper.
laurielegs
03-31-2014, 03:46 PM
Hi, i posted in this thread about how i am going to work on xmodels site, i gave it a try expecting multiple users in pvt at a time at that ridiculously small fee per minute, i end up with doing 45 minutes paid time with ONE member in pvt at a time and not even a true private show. Guess how much i got for this? 9.28 euros! If i do the calculation it results i was working for approx. 0.19 eurocent per minute my share, they say the fee per minute on their site is 80 eurocent and another model in here said that is our share. Wrong, our share is a percentage off that. Pls correct me if i calculate wrong, so i have 9.28 euros and 45 min private time. I even got their card to be paid on but not going to stay on that site making peanuts when i can work for a lot more on SM or other site(s). Just a heads up to u girls, not sure what it takes to bank on that site, i know i am older, looking average and speaking english, dutch or dutch speaking girls might do better there. Maybe some of u have some tips to give, Ty!
ETA:
HA! Now is getting worse, i actually earned 4.94 euros after they deducted VAT! I see the fees they pay me, 0.20 & 0.18 eurocents/min depending where the member is from. Ha!! WTF! Speechless here!
Yes, exactly what happens to me there. Performing long long shows for 1 and maybe 2 guys for .18 euros a minute.
I can't understand why anyone would bother to work there.
JenniferNorth
03-31-2014, 09:42 PM
Alice, was this even after you checked the Dutch flag (showing you speak Dutch) to get more visitors? I'm just trying to figure out how worth my time it would (or would not) be. I wonder if traffic has taken a hit, even with the Dutch members?
AliceFun
03-31-2014, 11:07 PM
Was the same even when i set the dutch flag, i gave that site few tries here & there, mostly splitcamming, the dutch guys came in talking dutch & i asked "can we talk in english pls?", they either left or talked in english, i tried both free chat & nude (paid), i had more 'success' sitting in nude but the point is when i asked them to take me private (at higher price) all they did was messaging me privately lol, i met a national comrade there (camgirl) who i am talking to & she says most guys dont even know what 'true private' session is, most use the regular nude option and request hardcore shows for that price! HA! I think i'll delete my account there. I think dutch members want native dutch girls talking the language properly same like native english guys prefer native english speakers; But who knows, maybe u girls will have more luck, u never know, my experience is just very unique so give it a try, see if it's working for you & report back, i am curious to know know how u do there :). Hugs!
JenniferNorth
04-01-2014, 05:19 AM
Hmmm...interesting and dissappointing! I'm sorry girl! :-( I know they don't want you splitcamming there, but I'll try it (yeah I'm not devoting all my time to one site that doesn't pay super!)
Has anyone seen how they payout? I believe they transfer funds to our Americans accounts via a Swiss bank-yowza I'm sure those prices are not cheap to convert funds!
AliceFun
04-01-2014, 08:19 AM
Another thing, at xmodels if u splitcam and use manycam U NEED to set manycam at a HD resolution of 640x480 and up in order to have a HD stream at xmodels. What i did here was: keep manycam at 'No forced size' & worked SM with the encoder setting the chosen resolution for SM in encoder, worked imlive using their HD streamer so it pulled out of manycam the right resolution to stream in hd too (got the HD logo on imlive) & at xmodels, guess what? I got 320x240 crap small resolution with this setup.
When i tried to set manycam at high resolution (800x600) my pc did not like it, i mean it was working but at over 75% CPU usage which i dont like, dont wanna push my pc that high. Plus i lost imlive HD logo. So then i tried just xmodels w.o splitter and i got HD like resolution (their HD streamer is very buggy & was not working on my PC, with that streamer u get HD logo on xmodels but it's their own software not adobe encoder, which would be better by the way) but i am not going to stay on that site only just to make less than peanuts. So in case u wanna splitcam be aware of these fact. Hugs!
Ebonyprincess88
04-09-2014, 06:30 PM
Hi,
I'm from Europe too and I work on AW. I'm trying to figure out if and how I'm supposed to pay taxes. (I'm from belgium) I'm completely clueless! If there's anyone from Belgium... I doubt it though
mia_noxx
04-09-2014, 07:31 PM
yeah, i'm from a shitty eastern-european country.. not too proud of that, but at least i'm doing fine...
i don't pay taxes, because the webcamming regulations aren't completely set up to code (and hopefully, it won't happen anytime soon, hah)
if you know french, two awesome moneymaking camsites are xlove and eurolive (they pay in euros).
I only work on English-speaking websites because i'm pretty fluent (and the guys love my ''whooty'' erm.. that's what they called it)... my time is 7-8 hours ahead of US time, so i would log in anywhere between my midnight and cam until noon the very next day... this totally fucks up my health but my regulars are on during that time.
mia_noxx
04-09-2014, 07:34 PM
oh and, i've had my fair share of interaction with french customers back when i was working at a studio... they are very picky and kind of jerks.
they'll ask you for 'nue hors' or 'hors cam' , which means they'd want you to strip bare naked outside the cam angle and they'd pop in private when you show them your panties in the cam taken off.
ans the top three things they'll ask you are anal, ''fontaine'' ( jet squirting ) , and mega-bush / armpit hair.
not my cup of tea... thoug converting euros in my currency would have been awesome.. *sigh*
yeah, i'm from a shitty eastern-european country.. not too proud of that, but at least i'm doing fine...
i don't pay taxes, because the webcamming regulations aren't completely set up to code (and hopefully, it won't happen anytime soon, hah)
if you know french, two awesome moneymaking camsites are xlove and eurolive (they pay in euros).
I only work on English-speaking websites because i'm pretty fluent (and the guys love my ''whooty'' erm.. that's what they called it)... my time is 7-8 hours ahead of US time, so i would log in anywhere between my midnight and cam until noon the very next day... this totally fucks up my health but my regulars are on during that time.
AW pays in euros too, but I wonder if the traffic on those sites are good too .