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kitte
03-25-2015, 07:20 AM
I don't know what happened to the sites traffic. I get shows here and there but not often anymore.

Bootsie
03-25-2015, 08:26 AM
I don't make much money on here anymore either. Never did really. And now with all of this bidding stuff I'm kinda pushing this site off to the side. I'm going to work more on promoting myself on social media and my website. I think I can do better for myself than CMD does for me ;)

It is an indy site, so I appreciate that we are supposed to drive our own traffic for the most part, and I think Mark could easily pull that card to anyone who complains. I literally keep a profile on CMD these days for one guy who can't be processed through LCMS for whatever reason, but he has dropped from regular shows to being a semi-regular whiny annoyance, and I am considering ditching CMD altogether. If I have to drive my own traffic, I would rather have the extra 5-10% I get from LCMS. If I'm doing the work, I want the money for it.

cherryblossomsinspring
03-25-2015, 09:13 AM
I've only gotten 1 show so far. Other than that I just do the 3 questions. Another thing I'm happy about is that now I can talk to people on skype without adding them yet each one of them sends over a request. I decline. I also got a few paypal request and just blocked them. One guy even asked if I do couple shows and then went into how he needs to find a girl off of craigslist. lol . It still beats freechat any day because I can bump them out instantly and not have to worry about them coming back again with the same id.

LaylaLovely
03-25-2015, 10:29 AM
Past 2 days have been slow... But I still have tonight.. Hopefully they come to play. I think since it's the first week of spring a lot of ppl are going out doing stuff, there's been so much traffic and people out I notice .

Anyone that wants to bid and actually get a spot.. Do not bid until the last hours of bidding.. Anyone that's putting in bids now will not win a spot..just how bidding works

Also speaking from owning my own ebay store auctions do best set at 99cents or lower drives traffic and competitiveness like gambling.. I see it everyday in my store things aren't even worth what there bidding sell for 3x the price

Bootsie
03-25-2015, 02:50 PM
Past 2 days have been slow... But I still have tonight.. Hopefully they come to play. I think since it's the first week of spring a lot of ppl are going out doing stuff, there's been so much traffic and people out I notice .

Anyone that wants to bid and actually get a spot.. Do not bid until the last hours of bidding.. Anyone that's putting in bids now will not win a spot..just how bidding works

Also speaking from owning my own ebay store auctions do best set at 99cents or lower drives traffic and competitiveness like gambling.. I see it everyday in my store things aren't even worth what there bidding sell for 3x the price

I think the issue (well, for me at least) and the resistance to bidding is not so much the strategy to win a spot, but the blatant cash grab from a site that originally set itself apart from the big box sites by NOT nickel and diming everyone, and by allowing all girls to compete on a fairly level field, as opposed to being ranked by camscore, earnings/hours, or whatever the big site algorithm of the day was.

bbwbrianna
03-25-2015, 04:38 PM
I get no shows, just freeloaders who call me over and OVER again until I block them. Then I get morons who ask if I can do XYZ within a minute. Just take your dollar sir and shove it if you can't afford time with me.

Issabelle
03-25-2015, 08:42 PM
Well, the bidding thing gets worse. CMD is now forcing it to be whole dollar amounts, which is really going to drive up cost. I put in a bid as a giggle fest. It's now a minimum bid of $5 and the next highest value I can bid is $6.

EllieGold
03-25-2015, 08:58 PM
Now its just feeling so big boxy kind of site... I won't bid on a spot. I am already in the top few rows. I don't get many shows to justify paying for paid placement at the moment IMO... I feel like I just can't compete with some other girls. I get told i am too expensive from about 50% of the guys who contact me. The last few days have been really quiet too...

sexysusie
03-25-2015, 10:18 PM
Seriously why is anyone bothering to bid? I decided against it and have still been in the top few rows of girls when showing as online. Not that it's gotten me any customers mind. Think CMD has died.

Bristol
03-25-2015, 11:14 PM
I don't know what happened to the sites traffic. I get shows here and there but not often anymore.

Just a theory...

I'm wondering if the new site changes have tanked the Google page ranking for the ads on the site. For just about any website, a lot of traffic comes from Google search so a drop in page rank translates to a drop in new traffic.

The new site places the ads under cammodeldirectory.com/listings whereas the old site placed them under cammodeldirectory.com/ads. Any link to an old ad or its images is now a broken link (meaning it returns a 404 error) even if the models recreated the ad with the same ad title. This will cause Google to begin de-indexing the old ads. When a page is de-indexed, Google stops returning that link in their search results. This would cause a drop in the site's page rank for a while until the new pages get indexed (which can take a long time).

The launch should have planned for this by avoiding 404 errors either by redirecting old traffic to the new pages (using a permanent 301 redirect) or by copying the old ads to the new site in order to maintain the same URL structure. It seems this was not done.

brownsugardoll
03-25-2015, 11:23 PM
I get no shows, just freeloaders who call me over and OVER again until I block them. Then I get morons who ask if I can do XYZ within a minute. Just take your dollar sir and shove it if you can't afford time with me.

Yeah, I know the feeling (well we all do). I'm sick of cheap guys requesting for 5 min cam shows and dumb to think the duration justify to only pay $4.00-8.00 dollars. This week, I decline 3 offers from guys asking me this low. I've dealt with guys that can only last for that short length of time but they are still stuck with paying minimum $25. These guys also irritate me on saying, "I cum very fast" and I just tell them not even worth pleasing them for just few bucks earning. Plus, never truly know if they will try to go over the time.

anoncamgirl
03-26-2015, 03:07 AM
To be honest the bidding system annoys me. I'm not annoyed about Mark trying to make money. I understand that he puts a lot of time and effort into the site, and I think it's reasonable of him to expect compensation for his hard work. I also understand that there's a lot of costs which will not pay for themselves. This would fall under the umbrella of 'business costs' like payment processing, advertising, site design, servers, etc. Running a webcam site is not easy, and I would expect him to get paid for his work fairly.

I am mainly annoyed because I know for a fact I bring a lot of traffic to CMD. I've worked at building that traffic for about two years. I've had to fight tooth and nail to get my gentlemen to trust CMD as a payment processor. I know I'm not the only camgirl who has gone out of their way to support the site like this. The bidding system is controversial to me because a lot of us have worked hard to bring that traffic in. It feels like instead of getting affiliate pay as we would on a normal big box site, Mark is allowing models to bid for the advantage of the traffic models have worked hard to bring in.

I use the term controversial because we do get the largest payout percentage of sales. CMD has the second highest payout percentage in the entire market. It's not the same as working on commission on Streamate. Instead, a model's income is directly impacted by their success in conversions. The game is a bit different. It would be nice to have an affiliate program, but I understand that CMD is still small so that would be a tough feat for them.

Sunnylexie
03-26-2015, 08:25 PM
I found out that none of the links to my ads work the way it's meant to be. Whenever a person clicks on the link, it takes them to the main page. Also, when I search for my name nothing comes up, even though I'm displayed as online.

xxtinamariexx
03-26-2015, 08:50 PM
Seriously why is anyone bothering to bid? I decided against it and have still been in the top few rows of girls when showing as online. Not that it's gotten me any customers mind. Think CMD has died.

I actually thought the same thing, I was on the first few rows... but now... I am all the way at the bottom and sometimes I even have to click on the loading button to be able to see me... and I USED to get in the first 4 top models ... haven't seen that in forever and honestly nothing in the last 2 weeks. and that's probably why I am at the bottom. If Its not a "repeat old" customer.. I haven't had anyone

Sunnylexie
03-26-2015, 09:42 PM
Well, I just found myself unable to direct customers to any of my ads or my profile. It just kicks them out to the homepage and when they search me by the name they find nothing even though I'm online. The only way for an user to pay me for a show was through some shenanigans with another model's payment link.

LaylaLovely
03-26-2015, 10:20 PM
I'm in the first few rows and get a good chunk of shows but...I've been sick this week ...I hope I don't vanish :/

kortneykay
03-26-2015, 11:25 PM
Finally, after a long drought someone bought a show and threw some water on my dried up thirsty ass ads. Unfortunately that goes back into what I paid for the ad, lol. I've had a few guys who seem legit hit me up before my ad but I kept denying them shows because I was being lazy on those days. :/

For those of you who get shows, consider yourselves lucky. I literally had 2 shows in the year 2015. TWO in spite of me buying ads. And I used to be able to make $200-500 a week on there but something definitely happened. It wasn't even the site switch over, my last good week was in like May of last year ><.'

Now the past 2 weeks I've been getting inquiries but I haven't been assed to do shows but to know that I've only gotten 2 shows this whole year (one being today) just makes me annoyed. I have to bid or I won't get shows. I can see the count going up when I place ads but very slowly, I think I only have around 80-100 views on each of my ads. But the sites been up for weeks now...

SoloDesire
03-27-2015, 05:17 AM
Finally, after a long drought someone bought a show and threw some water on my dried up thirsty ass ads. Unfortunately that goes back into what I paid for the ad, lol. I've had a few guys who seem legit hit me up before my ad but I kept denying them shows because I was being lazy on those days. :/

For those of you who get shows, consider yourselves lucky. I literally had 2 shows in the year 2015. TWO in spite of me buying ads. And I used to be able to make $200-500 a week on there but something definitely happened. It wasn't even the site switch over, my last good week was in like May of last year ><.'

Now the past 2 weeks I've been getting inquiries but I haven't been assed to do shows but to know that I've only gotten 2 shows this whole year (one being today) just makes me annoyed. I have to bid or I won't get shows. I can see the count going up when I place ads but very slowly, I think I only have around 80-100 views on each of my ads. But the sites been up for weeks now...

I realized the same about the views on my ad and profile. I had a LOT more on my ads on the old site in half the time. I'm not getting many views at all anymore. So that alone speaks volumes about any traffic to the site.

justanothercamgirl
03-27-2015, 05:36 AM
To be honest the bidding system annoys me. I'm not annoyed about Mark trying to make money. I understand that he puts a lot of time and effort into the site, and I think it's reasonable of him to expect compensation for his hard work. I also understand that there's a lot of costs which will not pay for themselves. This would fall under the umbrella of 'business costs' like payment processing, advertising, site design, servers, etc. Running a webcam site is not easy, and I would expect him to get paid for his work fairly.

I am mainly annoyed because I know for a fact I bring a lot of traffic to CMD. I've worked at building that traffic for about two years. I've had to fight tooth and nail to get my gentlemen to trust CMD as a payment processor. I know I'm not the only camgirl who has gone out of their way to support the site like this. The bidding system is controversial to me because a lot of us have worked hard to bring that traffic in. It feels like instead of getting affiliate pay as we would on a normal big box site, Mark is allowing models to bid for the advantage of the traffic models have worked hard to bring in.

I use the term controversial because we do get the largest payout percentage of sales. CMD has the second highest payout percentage in the entire market. It's not the same as working on commission on Streamate. Instead, a model's income is directly impacted by their success in conversions. The game is a bit different. It would be nice to have an affiliate program, but I understand that CMD is still small so that would be a tough feat for them.

Yep, this exact thing didn't sit well with me either. I was going to just use CMD as a payment processor in the future but I rather give loveshooks my money at this point. I just don't trust Mark to not come up with ways to nickle and dime his models again in the future.

cherryblossomsinspring
04-03-2015, 08:32 PM
I only have really one consistent member that spends but he spends about $100 each time. Other than that I'm trying to figure out how after blocking someone from skype they just show up again in a few days asking " are you available?"

EllieGold
04-03-2015, 08:35 PM
It feels so dead there as of late. :(

LaylaLovely
04-03-2015, 10:20 PM
I've been trying to post a crying gif... Can't figure it out lol

Ever since I got sick last week.... I've been drifting lower and lower on the page from the top :(

EllieGold
04-03-2015, 10:37 PM
im like on row 9 now after being in row 3 often... deader than dead on shows. I am not sure what happened. Maybe my new status is gone? Not literally but like I'm old news now. I am not getting any new people adding me since about a week ago.

Cam_Model_Jess
04-04-2015, 09:53 AM
I'm getting annoyed with this site as well. I'm not putting much energy into it, but I'm getting a lot of add requests & NONE of them ever follow through. Whether or not I add them as a contact, I get a notification on Skype each time I sign on. I have to click on a long list of people to get the notifications to go away. I have to eventually block them if I want to stop getting notifications. I had ONE show in Jan, and nothing since then. Just lots of add requests.

EllieGold
04-04-2015, 12:48 PM
From my experience about 95% of men who add me end up buying a show. I used to get about 10-20 requests a day. It has since slowed down a ton. Not sure what happened? I have made dilly squat since a few days ago and not sure what is going on. I don't get many profile views either.

CatBBW
04-06-2015, 12:41 PM
I've skimmed some of this thread, but was wondering if CMD is still recommended as an indy advertising site? A lot of their drop down links don't work or have no content, so am a bit concerned regrding professionalism, timely payout, the usual things.

Thanks ladies :)



ETA: one other question - do you have to be showing as "online" for guys to find and book/request a show?

chloemay
04-06-2015, 12:49 PM
I've skimmed some of this thread, but was wondering if CMD is still recommended as an indy advertising site? A lot of their drop down links don't work or have no content, so am a bit concerned regrding professionalism, timely payout, the usual things.

Thanks ladies :)



ETA: one other question - do you have to be showing as "online" for guys to find and book/request a show?

Well, i've always been paid on time from the site, I use Payoneer. Mark responds quickly to my questions via Skype. Those are the good things. Since the site change it has been slow for me- like one or two shows a week, and now unless you bid for one of the top ten spots there is no other way to be seen once dropped down on the page so that sucks. I don't know the answer to your other question below.

scarlettbelle
04-06-2015, 01:26 PM
I've skimmed some of this thread, but was wondering if CMD is still recommended as an indy advertising site? A lot of their drop down links don't work or have no content, so am a bit concerned regrding professionalism, timely payout, the usual things.

Thanks ladies :)



ETA: one other question - do you have to be showing as "online" for guys to find and book/request a show?

I think the missing info in some of the drop down links is just an oversight from the big switch over that happened a couple months ago. I've never had any issues with receiving payment. I love the new direct deposit option! There is WAY less traffic than usual right now though.

You don't have to be signed in/showing as online to be seen. Your profile will be down at the bottom when you're offline though, so it's less *likely* that your profile will be seen. They can still get your contact info and I'm 99% sure they can still purchase a show if you're offline (that happened to me a few times before the site change).

Procrasturbator
04-06-2015, 09:53 PM
Yes, they can still buy a show when you're offline. Last time I cammed I didn't even bother signing in until I was almost done for the night and I did fine, but I have a lot of regulars that see me online on Skype. Without them I honestly don't know if CMD would still do much for me. :/

scarlettbelle
04-27-2015, 09:41 PM
Has traffic been getting better for anyone? I noticed a sudden bump this week, but I'm not sure if it's just a fluke. Hopefully it will stay this way!

sexysusie
04-28-2015, 11:49 AM
Nope it's pants.

Bootsie
05-01-2015, 04:04 AM
The only guys I am getting from CMD these days are guys from the middle east who say they can't pay with CMD, want paypal, and want a free preview. I have 3 regs that pay me via CMD (including one from the middle east who can't use LCMS so I had to push him to CMD after he found me on Twitter) and that's it. 2 of them I could probably drag to another site so I could take my ads off CMD, but then I would lose that third guy. I just hate all the timewasters I get off CMD, it almost isn't worth it anymore. I have bid for a featured spot to see if maybe I can get enough traffic, but I think I might be done with CMD this time around.

hyori
05-01-2015, 05:48 AM
Every time I am about to delete my account here I get a good guy. Still have my sweet foot guy, then bam a really cute quiet guy who just wants me to talk dirty to him, and then a drop dead gorgeous Swede who tips me just because.

EllieGold
05-01-2015, 10:20 AM
I get timewasters that want to pay with PayPal too these days. It's all broke losers and time wasters, I am starting to loathe anytime I get on Skype and weed through all of them...

scarlettbelle
05-01-2015, 01:00 PM
I've started screening new contacts and it helped a lot. Usually the time wasters run away when they see my rates, so I make sure they've seen my profile before I start a conversation.

sexysusie
05-01-2015, 03:09 PM
Every time I log in to skype there's tons of new add requests. I have no idea where they're from as I'm on a few different indy listings sites. I got sick of having them all on my left hand menu so now i go through all of them copy/pasting 'hi babe, are you looking for a camshow? have a look at my page (link to LCMS) for rates and details then let's play :)'. If I don't hear back from them i just mass delete them all. Really annoying having to do this every frigging time I log in! I'd say about 3 out of every 20 adds actually results in a show.

scarlettbelle
05-01-2015, 03:39 PM
^^^ That's exactly what I do. It's annoying, but it has helped overall. I seem to get a lot of random people (maybe from Twitter?) who are from countries that can't even use CMD. :banghead:

Redcandy
05-01-2015, 04:03 PM
For the love of Dildos!! Just loser after loser after loser after loser after loser after loser after loser after loser after loser after loser after loser after loser after loser after LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Redcandy
05-02-2015, 05:58 AM
Woke up to get an early start to my day. And this is what he wanted to do!!

hi did you want a show today?
[8:34:27 AM] Ross : O yes
[8:35:01 AM] Ross : But I'm looking for something unusual
[8:35:25 AM] Ross : Would u do extreme messy food play?
[8:39:30 AM] Ross : ?
[8:46:19 AM] candy.: food play?
[8:47:14 AM] Ross Becker: Yes pouring foods all over body hair to toe but focusing on Ur hair
[8:51:00 AM] candy.: no
** Its not even 9am and this is in the minds of these crazy people**

Staples
05-02-2015, 02:52 PM
Woke up to get an early start to my day. And this is what he wanted to do!!

hi did you want a show today?
[8:34:27 AM] Ross : O yes
[8:35:01 AM] Ross : But I'm looking for something unusual
[8:35:25 AM] Ross : Would u do extreme messy food play?
[8:39:30 AM] Ross : ?
[8:46:19 AM] candy.: food play?
[8:47:14 AM] Ross Becker: Yes pouring foods all over body hair to toe but focusing on Ur hair
[8:51:00 AM] candy.: no
** Its not even 9am and this is in the minds of these crazy people**
I'm pretty sure this is the guy that hit me up asking me to put all kinds of really gross food in a blender (including a whole fish) and then dump it on my head.

LaylaLovely
05-02-2015, 03:40 PM
^^ yup me too fish in my hair lol

SimoneGray
05-02-2015, 06:42 PM
I'm pretty sure this is the guy that hit me up asking me to put all kinds of really gross food in a blender (including a whole fish) and then dump it on my head.

He hit me up on LCMS too, spent like an hour negotiating with him, he said he'd pay for a custom of messy food play, I never made it, I said I wanted the $250 upfront for it, said that he would get his credit card and I haven't heard from him since. I think his fetish is actually talking to girls about messy food play. I thin he gets off on the idea of it as opposed to someone doing it.

Staples
05-02-2015, 06:44 PM
He hit me up on LCMS too, spent like an hour negotiating with him, he said he'd pay for a custom of messy food play, I never made it, I said I wanted the $250 upfront for it, said that he would get his credit card and I haven't heard from him since. I think his fetish is actually talking to girls about messy food play. I thin he gets off on the idea of it as opposed to someone doing it.

Yeah I told him I would need at least $1,000 and he said ok I'll go pay right now and then never heard from him again lol!

SimoneGray
05-02-2015, 06:47 PM
^^ omg EXACT same line!! And he was also totally cool about the amount I was asking. Wow. He just got himself blocked from my radar forever LOL!

Magical_Hoohah
05-02-2015, 08:14 PM
He approached me a while back, too. I was pretty convinced that his actual fetish was to ruin my hair so badly that I'd have to cut it all off. Since my natural red hair is one of my biggest assets, I was not about to consider anything of the sort!

EllieGold
05-02-2015, 08:35 PM
This guy hit me up too!

He asked about:

Messy Food Play
Vomit/Shit Shampoo
Bathtub Full of Fish/Dog Food
Washing Hair with Food


I thought I caught a guy with a good fetish but as it turns out he wasted my time too. Then he hits me up a week ago and asks what he can get with just $50. Sure dude. I'm sure you really had all this money to spend. I just ignored him this time because I don't have time to waste.

Sonikku
05-03-2015, 11:11 AM
I'm just going to say I've been paid for those shows by Ross, but he up and removed me after he didn't make payment for the next video. Have no idea why.

I never put fish in my hair. I told him he'd have to pay way more, buy me new extensions and lot of expensive deep conditioner for it lol.

Bootsie
05-03-2015, 02:26 PM
So I got drunk one night and bid for featured model spot. Managed to win. Oops. So far I have had 11 contacts from CMD. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. has been from a middle eastern guy who wants a free show. I bid $25, which means I need to make $33.33 of shows in order to break even on the week. I will post my stats at the end of the week for interested peeps. Also, I am going to change my password on CMD so hopefully drunk me won't bid.

Staples
05-03-2015, 07:03 PM
So I got drunk one night and bid for featured model spot. Managed to win. Oops. So far I have had 11 contacts from CMD. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. has been from a middle eastern guy who wants a free show. I bid $25, which means I need to make $33.33 of shows in order to break even on the week. I will post my stats at the end of the week for interested peeps. Also, I am going to change my password on CMD so hopefully drunk me won't bid.
Back before the website change, I was doing decent on shows then, I bought one of the old featured spot ads. I got zero shows while I was a featured girl. I was so mad that I spent money and ended up doing worse than without the add. I hope you have better luck!

Magical_Hoohah
05-03-2015, 08:05 PM
So I got drunk one night and bid for featured model spot.
LOL! I know I shouldn't laugh at your post, but I've had a glass of wine, so I can't help myself. Our custies probably think that drunken cam girls run around having orgies and stuff (cause look how "horny" we are when we're not drunk). Instead, we get drunk and enact potentially unprofitable advertising schemes. :bored: I bet some of us do even sexier shit like build enormous, complicated spreadsheets to track the most mundane details of our business. Damn, do we get into some drunken shenanigans, LOL!