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SaraLaughs
11-23-2016, 03:13 PM
Just a quick reminder to check the crooked client list before you accept a show. Ive had several people contact me about a show tonight and they were on the list. The holidays are going to bring out scammers with free time, so be careful.

I completely second this and with a clause- if a client ever asks to take payments offsite, even to a different cam platform or Amazon GC or something- double check. I had a guy legitimately buy a show on CMD and the next time he contacted me he asked if I had a different cam site he could pay on because his 'card wouldn't work on CMD.' Sometimes legitimate clients get flagged by their bank and the transaction won't go through so it's not always bullshit, but this guy gave me a bad feeling. I ran his name through Crooked Clients list again and it turns out that he creates different Skype names and pays through different bad credit cards through fraud or something and did a CB on our last show! So don't fuck around with double-checking ladies- it can always happen.



Actually, they do CB at least in certain situations. I had a guy that reeeeeeaaaaalllly drove me up a wall and made me wanna scream. He paid for a show when I was not doing shows and wanted the show like right then and there. Paid $75 and then blew UP my skype calling back to back...honestly so much that in my dreams I heard the sound of a skype call coming through. Even though I have it specific times listed when I do shows he kept calling when I wasn't working...he called so much that it was hard to get him to stop for a min to tell him that I'm not available for shows. Apparently he is/was a good regular on the site but he drove me crazy and I rather a CB than be pestered all day when I'm not even available for shows...

I think Mark will just refund the show if the client says/proves it never happened which is different from a chargeback. But if you report that the client harassed you first he's always been good about not taking it out of my pay.

So if you or any other ladies have any issues with harassment from clients who have already paid you, I'd recommend taking it to him straight away. If it was a small enough transaction he might not even dock you your pay, depending on the situation. I dunno if they have a policy for it, but he's always given me the impression that he's sympathetic to us having to put up with bullshit from assholes and he doesn't want to make it worse. He's also done a fair number of legitimate refunds where it was just bad timing or whatever, and THOSE he's taken off of my pay obviously. But when it's a case of a client making me uncomfortable, never.

laurielegs
11-27-2016, 02:14 AM
I am so pissed off at how this site works.

They should not be able to just go ahead and pay less than your listed price and demand you do the show anyway. I have had this happen ore than once. It's like they just figure out what they want to pay and send the payment through. It should NOT work like that.

Also I feel I should be able to go ahead and do a refund myself rather than wait for the site to do it. I've blocked the guy and emailed Mark but still, what a waste of time for everyone.

Susperia
11-28-2016, 09:10 PM
Actually, they do CB at least in certain situations. I had a guy that reeeeeeaaaaalllly drove me up a wall and made me wanna scream. He paid for a show when I was not doing shows and wanted the show like right then and there. Paid $75 and then blew UP my skype calling back to back...honestly so much that in my dreams I heard the sound of a skype call coming through. Even though I have it specific times listed when I do shows he kept calling when I wasn't working...he called so much that it was hard to get him to stop for a min to tell him that I'm not available for shows. Apparently he is/was a good regular on the site but he drove me crazy and I rather a CB than be pestered all day when I'm not even available for shows...

I had a guy prepay for a show when I wasn't on. He didn't do constantly call, but I feel bad because he paid 2 weeks ago and he's barely on and we still haven't caught up with each other yet. I tell him when I'm on and then he's not on....

THen I also had a guy who would like only want a show for 1 minute...begging to pay just $3 or just $5 and then expecting me to give him 5 mins for 5 dollars, and then calling me when he didn't even pay. I blocked him but he made a new skype and kept contacting me....fucking weirdo.....anyway, I was going to ask who this guy was that did this to you? THat is aweful....I can't even imagine.

CMD Leigh
01-31-2017, 06:36 PM
Hey all! Just a moment to introduce myself, I am Leigh :D Mark has hired me on to help out with Model Support and Admin. Look for the announcement in the next day or two. I am PROUD to be a part of the CMD team!

CMD has just grown so much that Mark decided to hire on help. He hasn't had time to have a presence in the forums. So I will try my best to be here a few times a week to answer questions and help when I can.

For TECH: I can TRY. :O:O:O:O BUT--that is NOT my area of expertise. You can ask always, though :)

Please be kind, LOL. I SUCK at forums and I am learning forums as I go :-\

Feel Free to shoot me a PM, friend me or whatever. I will do my best to friend all you CMD gals as I can--if you want.

IMPORTANT: Mark has created an awesome ANNOUNCEMENT feature on your dashboard. PLEASE READ THIS and check it OFTEN! He has updated it with things like the skype work around during this Skype SNAFU.


Look forward to hearing from you all. I am working on my profile. We are also creating a NEW SUPPORT Skype. He will announce the new skype ID on the dashboard. That way you should be able to get a hold of one of us quickly.

Thanks!
Leigh


PS. I subscribed to notifications on this thread so I can check often when you gals respond

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-31-2017, 07:02 PM
Hi Leigh welcome to Stripperweb! The main thread for Cammodel Directory is here https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?187026-The-CamModel-Directory-Thread&highlight=cammodel+directory. Its typically where people post when they have something they want to talk about.

CMD Leigh
01-31-2017, 08:08 PM
Thanks so much! Like I said I am new..I will post in there too. Hopefully girls get the message I am here to help, though I am so terrible with forums. I will try not to make any faux paus

Not new to the business but new to Forums SO SCARY Again thanks :)

CMD Leigh
01-31-2017, 08:09 PM
Hey all! Just a moment to introduce myself, I am Leigh! Mark has hired me on to help out with Model Support and Admin. Look for the announcement in the next day or two. I am PROUD to be a part of the CMD team!

CMD has just grown so much that Mark decided to hire on help. He hasn't had time to have a presence in the forums. So I will try my best to be here a few times a week to answer questions and help when I can.

For TECH: I can TRY. BUT--that is NOT my area of expertise. You can ask always, though

Please be kind, LOL. I SUCK at forums and I am learning forums as I go.

Feel Free to shoot me a PM, friend me or whatever. I will do my best to friend all you CMD gals as I can--if you want.

IMPORTANT: Mark has created an awesome ANNOUNCEMENT feature on your dashboard. PLEASE READ THIS and check it OFTEN! He has updated it with things like the skype work around during this Skype SNAFU.


Look forward to hearing from you all. I am working on my profile. We are also creating a NEW SUPPORT Skype. He will announce the new skype ID on the dashboard. That way you should be able to get a hold of one of us quickly.

Thanks!
Leigh


PS. I subscribed to notifications on this thread so I can check often when you gals respond

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-31-2017, 08:31 PM
Thanks so much! Like I said I am new..I will post in there too. Hopefully girls get the message I am here to help, though I am so terrible with forums. I will try not to make any faux paus

Not new to the business but new to Forums SO SCARY Again thanks :)

No worries. We dont bite everyday. I think its a good thing that companies make an effort to communicate on forums. It doesn't have to be an unpleasant experience. But currently most companies are owned by men and blue members are not allowed to post in some areas. Camming Connection being one of them. A lot of members don't like the idea of an infiltration or when new start ups show up to spam us. But CMD is a well respected service and it's about time someone showed up. More than likely I'm gonna move this to the other thread as soon as other people get a chance to see it. Again welcome to Stripperweb.

BlkSharpie
01-31-2017, 08:49 PM
I swear...i first read this as Child Support Here! Got me all excited for a moment there :D

Okay, dont mind me. Carry on...

MistressX
01-31-2017, 11:03 PM
I'm considering trying this site again. Like LCMS, I never really got any interest except timewasters or pedo's/weirdos... can anyone give me any tips? Do you HAVE to buy a featured spot to get shows?

seashell
02-01-2017, 01:14 AM
I'm considering trying this site again. Like LCMS, I never really got any interest except timewasters or pedo's/weirdos... can anyone give me any tips? Do you HAVE to buy a featured spot to get shows?

Are you advertisting anywhere else? I put my CMD link everywhere, and I get bites mostly from Twitter. But I also do Tumblr and Snapchat. I've made decent money from CMD without any bidding.

Do you have multiple listings?

laurielegs
02-01-2017, 02:02 AM
Really good to see someone representing CMD here! I don't do too well there myself but am trying my best to make indy camming work for me.

Honestly one reason I don't log in as much as I could and use other services instead is that I have this issue of guys paying less than the listed price and then expecting me to do the show anyway. I always ask that the money be refunded and am usually so angry about it I block them. Would really rather not deal with cheapskates.

I wish there were a way to make the Buy page read a certain amount for the number of minutes they were buying instead of them typing in the amount themselves.

laurielegs
02-01-2017, 02:06 AM
I had a guy prepay for a show when I wasn't on. He didn't do constantly call, but I feel bad because he paid 2 weeks ago and he's barely on and we still haven't caught up with each other yet. I tell him when I'm on and then he's not on....

THen I also had a guy who would like only want a show for 1 minute...begging to pay just $3 or just $5 and then expecting me to give him 5 mins for 5 dollars, and then calling me when he didn't even pay. I blocked him but he made a new skype and kept contacting me....fucking weirdo.....anyway, I was going to ask who this guy was that did this to you? THat is aweful....I can't even imagine.

Sorry, was awhile back and I don't remember which guy it was. It's happened several times though, more often when I first started but still, ugh!

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 08:42 AM
Really good to see someone representing CMD here! I don't do too well there myself but am trying my best to make indy camming work for me.

Honestly one reason I don't log in as much as I could and use other services instead is that I have this issue of guys paying less than the listed price and then expecting me to do the show anyway. I always ask that the money be refunded and am usually so angry about it I block them. Would really rather not deal with cheapskates.

I wish there were a way to make the Buy page read a certain amount for the number of minutes they were buying instead of them typing in the amount themselves.

I am sure you do, I just need to ask: Do you discuss the amount with them first? And when the do purchase less than is discussed/stated in profile, do you ask them to go and pay the remaining difference? Some models that have issues don't discuss beforehand with the client. You don't have to in great detail, but if a client says for e.g. "I want to see you deepthroat, BJ, and (penetration) for Xminutes" you can then say..."please purchase X amount with me."

Most guys DO NOT really even read the profiles. They look at pics, teaser vids, and gifs. Some guys DO read your profile. But remember they are horny men, wanting to get off right then. How many men IRL do you know that would be willing to read with their "little head" thinking? Men need to be told "Go pay Xamount here (your payment link).

One reason we don't have designated payment amounts is bc it allows you the Model more freedom in what you charge. Some girls have been known to charge "asshole tax" and more/less depending on the clients/request. The way CMD does it allows you more freedom in what you charge and offer.

I hope you do log in more. If I can be of any assistance, please feel free to ask

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 08:59 AM
Sorry, was awhile back and I don't remember which guy it was. It's happened several times though, more often when I first started but still, ugh!

If a guy purchases with you when you are not ON, or without discussing it with you first, please let Mark know. Often times Fraudsters do this--especially as Laurielegs said, when a model is new. I don't know if you were new when this happened or not.Guys like to then create pressure on the Model to do the show.

On the payment page. It does state BOLD AND UNDERLINED: Do not make the payment unless you have spoken with the model to discuss the service that you desire and have verified that she is available.

Please let Mark know (I do not have access to payment processing) of the purchase--that the client DID NOT discuss with you first. This happens frequently with 1. New girls (fraudsters or assholes-can I say assholes here) trying to create pressure on a New Model).

2. Because some models will not even discuss more than they are available with a client until he has paid, he may pay the wrong amount. Men think with the "little head" when they are horny. Models need to be able to tell the client "GO pay XAmount" Men do not read profiles. They look at pics, gifs, vids, and FAP.

I am not saying that any of these applied to you, but discuss them with Mark if they do happen. Frequently it is bc they paid with a stolen CC (or are going to do a CB)

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 09:19 AM
I'm considering trying this site again. Like LCMS, I never really got any interest except timewasters or pedo's/weirdos... can anyone give me any tips? Do you HAVE to buy a featured spot to get shows?

You will start near the bottom again as where you are on the page is based off of sales for the last 7 days. If you don't want to shell out for bidding on a featured spot.... here is something that MIGHT help:

Create a NEW LISTING. These show up in the WHAT'S NEW TAB. It is a bit of work, but may get you some notice with out having to bid on a featured spot. Guys do look at the "What's New" tab frequently. Make your pic stand out. :)

You CAN delete your OLD listings (e.g. Super Booty) and create a new one in order to appear under the "What's New" tab

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 02:30 PM
I want to add... of the current "Top Models" only 3 have bid on featured spots. The other seven have not ever, or have not in a very long time purchased Featured Listings

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 02:35 PM
Hi, I want to let yall know, Crazy Psycho Greg Seymour has made a reappearance on CMD and LCMS. He is not as aggressive as he used to be. He typically will reply with some comment like "You're one of Mark's little bitches (or worse) and leave. I don't think he has been active in the last couple of weeks.

One model has filed a Police report on him for internet stalking. If you want to report him as well (and you live in the US) Please contact CMD support and we will give you the Police Report number in the event that helps.

PLEASE if you think you have been contacted by Psycho Greg Seymour, report it immediately to [email protected] so Mark and I can put him on the CC list.

drearea
02-01-2017, 02:54 PM
I'm considering trying this site again. Like LCMS, I never really got any interest except timewasters or pedo's/weirdos... can anyone give me any tips? Do you HAVE to buy a featured spot to get shows?

I had the same experience and only recently tried this site out. I was taking time away from the paying customers I was getting on Skype through other methods to try and get even one of the dozens of CMD clients that added me to pay. Most were not on the crooked clients list. I had high traffic from CMD, but zero conversions. It was almost like being in free chat on glitchy slow days on SM for how much interaction I did with no paid for shows.

If I were simply using CMD as a way to bring my own customers and have a high cut, it would probably be okay? But even then your Skype ID is available to everyone regardless so I'd still have had those issues with lost time I imagine unless I just never responded to anyone who added me from there? Idk. I was blown away by the experience I had with the traffic, I didn't expect such high traffic, and I didn't expect a 0% conversion rate.

The combination of those two experiences made this experience a net loss for me rather than just a neutral "it didn't work out" experience.

DahliaSimone
02-01-2017, 03:00 PM
Yay!!! I LOVE CMD, glad to see more support aboard :)

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-01-2017, 03:11 PM
^^^Same here. Never made any sales. Guys were always trying to low ball me but I got lots of interest. I decided to focus on other options. BUT I am still happy to see a rep here in the forums. Hopefully this feedback will be shared with the rest of the team and they can work something out.

drearea
02-01-2017, 03:15 PM
Oh yeah, I'm super glad to see a rep here!

I have seen lots of girls on this forum say they love the site, so while the site isn't for me and I don't see myself going back despite potential changes (I currently have the amount and quality of skype traffic that I want since being removed from the site), I love to see any site use model feedback to make improvements. We are in this industry together and if a male site owner is willing to hiring a female to help him understand the needs of the models, I am beyond happy to see it and very ready to support it!

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 04:07 PM
^^^Same here. Never made any sales. Guys were always trying to low ball me but I got lots of interest. I decided to focus on other options. BUT I am still happy to see a rep here in the forums. Hopefully this feedback will be shared with the rest of the team and they can work something out.

I understand the frustration about how guys try to get free chat with Models. I will say that the way Mark set it up actually DOES prevent what is known as "automatic scraping" of your Skype ID. Some sites do not have a link that launches into skype and they POST your skype ID.

Mark and I have spoken about the issue with TimeWasters. He is firm in how he has the site set up to allow Models the most freedom to do business as they see fit.
Some girls have mentioned about how SP has a feature that you can have set up where ONLY members can contact you. But, back when I was on SP I had so many assholes that came in 2 mins after laying out exact instructions of what they wanted.

This is what I do suggest for Timewasters: If you are on LCMS look at that list as well. It isn't as big as CMD's but Models are allowed to add on that list. So you will see the all around dicks, assholes and timewasters that girls have posted.

I am sorry that CMD didn't work out for some gals. Mark has said CMD isn't right for every model and every model isn't right for CMD. Some girls have better luck in other formats on other site.

Teddy_Bear
02-01-2017, 04:48 PM
I love this site! No I am never going to pay my bills on it but the extra few hundred I earned on there last month definitely was not sneered at. It's a great side site and I leave it on all day even when I am not working my official shift to grab those stragglers now and again. Guaranteed money and show duration? Yes Please!

As soon as they say they found me on CMD, I give them the price/payment link and I get that confirmation email I'm like... come on in bb.

47291

N/B: I do no advertising of my own and simply fish out all the spenders already on the site, they are there and they are incredibly generous.

drearea
02-01-2017, 05:42 PM
I understand the frustration about how guys try to get free chat with Models. I will say that the way Mark set it up actually DOES prevent what is known as "automatic scraping" of your Skype ID. Some sites do not have a link that launches into skype and they POST your skype ID.

Mark and I have spoken about the issue with TimeWasters. He is firm in how he has the site set up to allow Models the most freedom to do business as they see fit.
Some girls have mentioned about how SP has a feature that you can have set up where ONLY members can contact you. But, back when I was on SP I had so many retards that came in 2 mins after laying out exact instructions of what they wanted.

This is what I do suggest for Timewasters: If you are on LCMS look at that list as well. It isn't as big as CMD's but Models are allowed to add on that list. So you will see the all around dicks, assholes and timewasters that girls have posted.

I am sorry that CMD didn't work out for some gals. Mark has said CMD isn't right for every model and every model isn't right for CMD. Some girls have better luck in other formats on other site.


The site I use does not "launch" my skype ID or otherwise grant access to my Skype to anyone who cannot pay for a show with me. I find that is the best way for me to ensure my time is valued by users. I have made half of my weekly goals across all sites for a full time income on the site that I am using, and I have had exactly 0 time wasters. One three minute show, but I would prefer short shows and no time wasters to no shows and lots of time wasters. *shrug*

The only "benefit" to your system is that we know the user has Skype your way, but what's the drawback if they don't? I'm actually confused as to how this benefits the model tbh



Also gonna note: This isn't about advertising one site over the site that this thread is for (which is why I didn't name the site), this is me giving my input as a model so your opinions about the "retards" on other sites is beyond unnecessary and I hope you will find more professional and productive ways to speak about CMD on this forum in the future.


CMD is a great site for some girls. It WASTES a LOT of time for others. But talking about "retards" on other sites is not a selling point for your site, it just makes it seem like your idea of competition is to cut down others rather than improve. I do not believe that is what CMD wants to project and based on your tone in previous posts, I do not believe this was your intention. But it certainly is how your comment impacted me.

Magical_Hoohah
02-01-2017, 06:15 PM
^I personally prefer that my Skype ID be available without much hassle. There's a segment of the population that will spend (and some of them spend a lot), but they don't want to jump through too many hoops before they're ready to buy. A guy might see me on Skyprivate and think I look like what he wants, and he'd like to know if I have an item he likes. If he has to sign up for the site and load funds just so that he can get my Skype ID and ask, he might skip over me and go spend money on someone who makes it easier for him.

There's no wrong way to do it. I get more time wasters by having my ID available, but I don't find them too bothersome, and I probably get shows with guys that pass over models that make it harder to get their ID. Each model should be able to handle it as she likes.

It would be cool if CMD gave models the option to hide their Skype ID. Depending on the model's choice, the button could be: 1) the current Skype chat button, 2) a "Buy My Skype ID" button, or 3) a "Message Me for My Skype ID" button.

laurielegs
02-01-2017, 07:45 PM
I am sure you do, I just need to ask: Do you discuss the amount with them first? And when the do purchase less than is discussed/stated in profile, do you ask them to go and pay the remaining difference? Some models that have issues don't discuss beforehand with the client. You don't have to in great detail, but if a client says for e.g. "I want to see you deepthroat, BJ, and (penetration) for Xminutes" you can then say..."please purchase X amount with me."

Most guys DO NOT really even read the profiles. They look at pics, teaser vids, and gifs. Some guys DO read your profile. But remember they are horny men, wanting to get off right then. How many men IRL do you know that would be willing to read with their "little head" thinking? Men need to be told "Go pay Xamount here (your payment link).

One reason we don't have designated payment amounts is bc it allows you the Model more freedom in what you charge. Some girls have been known to charge "asshole tax" and more/less depending on the clients/request. The way CMD does it allows you more freedom in what you charge and offer.

I hope you do log in more. If I can be of any assistance, please feel free to ask

Of course I spoke with them. I told them the price and they each sent less and then expected me either not to notice or go ahead and do the show anyway. I asked Mark to refund them. I guess some hosts must be going ahead and doing the shows anyway because they seemed to be surprised that I wouldn't take less than the posted price.

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 07:51 PM
Of course I spoke with them. I told them the price and they each sent less and then expected me either not to notice or go ahead and do the show anyway. I asked Mark to refund them. I guess some hosts must be going ahead and doing the shows anyway because they seemed to be surprised that I wouldn't take less than the posted price.

Guys can be silly. I will say that they often do this to pressure you into doing a show you don't want to do. Feel free to ALWAYS ask Mark to step in :)

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 07:52 PM
CURRENT SKYPE BULLSHIT! Some girls are reporting that if they log out of skype they are NOT able to log back in. The problem seems to be intermittent ATM. Wanted to give a heads up

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 07:59 PM
Thanks for the feedback gals!

FYI some girls are reporting a MAJOR issue with skype. If they sign out SOME (but not all) girls are not able to log back in. I would NOT recommend logging out atm. Also, right now, especially for support, use the SUPPORT CMD skype account and [email protected] goes to Mark and myself.

Tsepmet1
02-01-2017, 08:12 PM
I'll second the question about the "top model" tag.

What's that all about? Some I truly believe deserve it, others it looks like they just came out of nowhere and do not even have decent placement or plentiful reviews.

How does this work?

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 08:24 PM
I will begin by saying that I love cmd and think it's an awesome service. Mark is great for running it.

That being said, does anyone else feel like Mark isn't very personable? I don't know what it is about him. I just get this unfriendly vibe whenever I correspond with him. Like I don't expect him to be my best friend, and he's never very rude. I just always feel like he is annoyed or something. He's very short. Dude needs some people skills, or maybe a person to help with model admin idk.

Mark is SOOOO overwhelmed. I have been helping him for over 6 weeks. Today I took the only PARTIAL reigns and I needed 8 shots of fireball. I have no idea how he does it. I am STILL needing Clono after the day. OMG. WE HAVE NO IDEA what goes on behind the scenes. That man is AMAZING. He has NO time to be personal. SO please do not take it personally. He has over 1K models on his site and he runs it by himself. everything from support to payment.

He is a good person. Really. I would not work with him if I did not believe that he had a genuine soul and a good heart. He has more respect for models that work on his site than any other site I ever worked on (okay Jesse is pretty fantastic as well ;) )

CMD Leigh
02-01-2017, 09:01 PM
I'll second the question about the "top model" tag.

What's that all about? Some I truly believe deserve it, others it looks like they just came out of nowhere and do not even have decent placement or plentiful reviews.

How does this work?


Mark will never divulge another model's sales. BUT he will tell you were in stats--or at least a general picture. As we all know NEW status DOES attract more clients. Also some of those girls work there bums off for it. ALL GALS work HARD. But some actively bring clients to CMD, promote CMD and work CMD loyally.

He created the "TOP MODEL" category bc after one model was number ONE since August there was a LOT of drama. SO, to incentivize models for bringing clients to CMD and not refer off site, he created a "top model" category. This feature gives the 10 models with the most sales for the previous month a special "top model" badge.

I know that some models are upset by this. Trust me, Mark respects his models. DEEPLY! Mark does NOT play favorites when it comes to business--He is a savvy businessman at heart. He wanted to give an extra incentive to models who brought him the most sales. Symbiosis I suppose ;)

KLttyKat
02-02-2017, 01:52 AM
Thanks for coming on board Leigh. I will say I am not active here on SW but I always read it ;)

I want to say that I am spoiled to the professionalism of CMD (and LCMS). Mark has always been so helpful and professional. I feel like CMD is home to me.

I have had HORRIBLE experiences on other sites.
XXXCambabes: Owner was a complete skeeve. Held my money hostage for 4 months and wanting me to cam with him. Phone calls lasting over 2 hours. Skype messages and KIK messages: I am zoomed in on this pic of your ass jerking my cock. Wanted to fly me to Cali so he could be "burried in my ass" He begged for videos, wanted to "shoot videos" with me. 4 months of that

Another site owner took some pics with out my permission, posted them on her site, threatened, harassed, and blackmailed me when I left her site...and worse.

Needless to say all that came as a shock bc CMD was my first Indie site. I was used to Mark (and Jesse) treating us models with respect. I am LOYAL to what (and who) I believe in. That would be CMD/LCMS.

I am sorry I am rambling. I had a few beers. Thanks for coming on to SW Leigh. Thanks for helping Mark and the site out.

KLttyKat
02-02-2017, 02:04 AM
I completely second this and with a clause- if a client ever asks to take payments offsite, even to a different cam platform or Amazon GC or something- double check. I had a guy legitimately buy a show on CMD and the next time he contacted me he asked if I had a different cam site he could pay on because his 'card wouldn't work on CMD.' Sometimes legitimate clients get flagged by their bank and the transaction won't go through so it's not always bullshit, but this guy gave me a bad feeling. I ran his name through Crooked Clients list again and it turns out that he creates different Skype names and pays through different bad credit cards through fraud or something and did a CB on our last show! So don't fuck around with double-checking ladies- it can always happen.




I think Mark will just refund the show if the client says/proves it never happened which is different from a chargeback. But if you report that the client harassed you first he's always been good about not taking it out of my pay.

So if you or any other ladies have any issues with harassment from clients who have already paid you, I'd recommend taking it to him straight away. If it was a small enough transaction he might not even dock you your pay, depending on the situation. I dunno if they have a policy for it, but he's always given me the impression that he's sympathetic to us having to put up with bullshit from assholes and he doesn't want to make it worse. He's also done a fair number of legitimate refunds where it was just bad timing or whatever, and THOSE he's taken off of my pay obviously. But when it's a case of a client making me uncomfortable, never.

I will second this. I have had issues with clients harassing me. And for Mark has never refunded those assholes. I have hung up on guys mid show bc they were being such assholes, arguing DURING the show e.g. FUCK YOUR ASS BABY (mid show... no warning, not discussed before hand) and yelling at me BC i wouldn't do it. HUNG UP AND BLOCKED!

One guy did purchase a 30 min block with me. that is $90. He came in 3:20, hung up, lied and said his internet was fucked. (but could magically send an email to Mark and message me). I immediately reported it to Mark. He and I worked together, Mark refunded him half. Which was MORE than fair for me. 3:20 of work for $45---HELL YEAH!

I have had regulars book time with me with out my consent. BC they were my regulars I did ask Mark to refund to their CMD account--and referred the client to a friend. If they get refunded to their CMD account they are still going to spend on a model and they aren't going to get pissed at you for not getting a true refund.

My point. Mark will work with you. He is on our side--at least that is the feel I have always gotten. He has suggested when assholes want to bitch about having 7 unused minutes "Book another 10 mins and I will add on 5" Sometimes it works and appeases the client, and gets me another $30 in my pocket--But even in those cases, Mark hasn't refunded the guy.

KLttyKat
02-02-2017, 02:24 AM
I'm considering trying this site again. Like LCMS, I never really got any interest except timewasters or pedo's/weirdos... can anyone give me any tips? Do you HAVE to buy a featured spot to get shows?

I could HONESTLY get away with not paying for a featured spot... but I like the added exposure. I will say I have never ever noticed a difference in my sales based on if I was #1 or #10--Featured is Featured. (My preference is to be top 4 that is all ;) I don't like being all the way to the right of the line up :p

To get more notice... this is just IMO: guys like pics with some face and body. Those seem to have always gotten the best response. I change them up every couple of weeks or so. Maybe more often if things are slow. I am a nervous nellie. Put a GIF in your profile? there are free gif makers all over the web.

Another thing: All those really beautiful profiles girls do? The ones where they use Paint or another thing to create an "image" to upload? So beautiful. BUT the text in them is NOT searchable. As long as it is TEXT and not an uploaded image, EVERY WORD in your profile is searchable. E.G. I have ABDL in my profile. If a guy searches that my profile will come up.

Mark created the ability for us to have a gallery so we can upload images, gifs, etc and put them in our listings and profiles. I recomend using them. Also, if you have a youtube channel (for example) you can use the "link" tool and put it in your profile. The girls that are higher up in the page often (not always) have Gifs and images in their profile.

As far as LCMS, yes it is slower, but I have picked up some AWESOME regs there. I would say for LCMS stay logged in :) A lot of girls simply forget to log in (from the ones I talk to). I need to update my profile on there bc It is slagging. I just don't like that i can't update it myself :( BC i am always tweaking it.

Magical_Hoohah
02-02-2017, 10:59 AM
Another thing: All those really beautiful profiles girls do? The ones where they use Paint or another thing to create an "image" to upload? So beautiful. BUT the text in them is NOT searchable. As long as it is TEXT and not an uploaded image, EVERY WORD in your profile is searchable.
THANK YOU so much for saying that - I never even thought about it. Those pretty-text-over-photo ads are always gorgeous, and I often feel bad that I haven't really made many. I get frustrated because, once I save the image, I have to rewrite the entire thing if I want to tweak the wording at all. You've made me feel so much better about being "lazy" and just using the regular text functions!

chloemay
02-02-2017, 11:25 AM
Of course I spoke with them. I told them the price and they each sent less and then expected me either not to notice or go ahead and do the show anyway. I asked Mark to refund them. I guess some hosts must be going ahead and doing the shows anyway because they seemed to be surprised that I wouldn't take less than the posted price.

When a client sends less than the amount for a regular 10 minute show, I do the show for the amount of minutes his payment purchases. If what he sent was only good for 3 minutes, so be it. I tell them this after seeing the payment confirmation and before starting the show so it isn't a surprise. Some guys know they are going to bust a nut soon.

KLttyKat
02-04-2017, 02:15 AM
When a client sends less than the amount for a regular 10 minute show, I do the show for the amount of minutes his payment purchases. If what he sent was only good for 3 minutes, so be it. I tell them this after seeing the payment confirmation and before starting the show so it isn't a surprise. Some guys know they are going to bust a nut soon.

You are nicer than me. If a guy sends less than my minimum I tell him to go pay the rest. They usually do
If a client pays me with OUT talking to me first... I hate that "I sent you $12 let's do a show" I cut and paste from the "about page" and tell them that they did not confirm with me first. They have 2 options: 1. go pay the remaining amount or 2. Email the webmaster--in which case I will tell Mark what happened--so far no one has been refunded for their fuckery

DancesWithSloths
02-04-2017, 06:40 AM
Those pretty-text-over-photo ads are always gorgeous, and I often feel bad that I haven't really made many.

Don't feel bad! Bear in mind also that unless you have access to the site's back end, you can't make images in your profile respond to the dude's screen size. Open one of those image profiles on your phone and shudder.

Plain text in profiles all the way, bb.

KLttyKat
02-04-2017, 06:57 AM
Yes.... that is right. Over half of all transactions take place on a mobile device. Which means that they are looking on their tablet or phone. How many times you cam with a guy on his phone? so that means he is perusing/perving profiles on his phone. Look at the Top Girls. I **THINK** they all have plain text.

Those images that they use for their profile? not scaleable to the phone. Beautiful but so many drawbacks.

CMD Leigh
02-04-2017, 04:38 PM
I wanted to let everyone know, I did take one particular repeated inquiry back to Mark. The availability of Skype IDs.

1. Mark has set it up so that they way he does it, your skype ID is NOT public. It does prevent what is known as "automatic scraping" of your ID.
-HOWEVER, as well all know, a client does not have to pay to contact you. Yes, they chat for free.
2. Mark is firm in that this is HOW CMD runs and is set up. His position is that it allows models and clients greater freedom in running their business. This is one reason CMD is more popular than other sites.
-A client does not have to pay $$$ to a model to only find out that she does not offer what he was seeking in the first place.
3. In order to be listed on CMD, a model must make her skype ID available through the "chat with model" button that launches the skype application

4. This being said, CMD may not be right for every model. I don't like to think of it in terms like "this site sucks." It is just a personal preference and what works for the individual model. When I was a model, I didn't say MFC and CB sucked. I just said "those sites never worked for me." It doesn't mean I sucked as a model, or the sites sucked. Just meant I wasn't the right fit for them and they weren't the right fit for me.

--I will say that CMD has the one of the highest Alexa rankings of ANY indie site. Skyprivate is slightly higher. However they do not geoblock high fraud countries from purchasing like CMD does. Also, CMD does not pass on CB's to models. Yes we work with you on refunds. That is different than a CB.

drearea
02-04-2017, 05:05 PM
1.
-HOWEVER, as well all know, a client does not have to pay to contact you. Yes, they chat for free.


2. other sites.
-A client does not have to pay $$$ to a model to only find out that she does not offer what he was seeking in the first place.



--I will say that CMD has the one of the highest Alexa rankings of ANY indie site. Skyprivate is slightly higher. However they do not geoblock high fraud countries from purchasing like CMD does. Also, CMD does not pass on CB's to models. Yes we work with you on refunds. That is different than a CB.



1 and 2:

since we're comparing here still???

Skyprivate does not require a customer to pay before having access to a model's Skype. The customer must be ABLE to pay. Huge difference there. One would prevent curious customers from contacting a model. The other prevents freeloading time wasters who are not able to even purchase a show from contacting models (which, as I have mentioned before on this thread, were the ONLY "customers" that contacted me on CMD).



-- Skyprivate does not pass on chargebacks for pay per minute shows, which are the only shows I have personally even been asked to take there.











I don't see any issue with you choosing to compare CMD with other sites as a way to promote CMD but it's definitely good to know exactly what it is that you're comparing yourself to.

CMD Leigh
02-04-2017, 07:44 PM
1 and 2:

since we're comparing here still???

Skyprivate does not require a customer to pay before having access to a model's Skype. The customer must be ABLE to pay. Huge difference there. One would prevent curious customers from contacting a model. The other prevents freeloading time wasters who are not able to even purchase a show from contacting models (which, as I have mentioned before on this thread, were the ONLY "customers" that contacted me on CMD).



-- Skyprivate does not pass on chargebacks for pay per minute shows, which are the only shows I have personally even been asked to take there.











I don't see any issue with you choosing to compare CMD with other sites as a way to promote CMD but it's definitely good to know exactly what it is that you're comparing yourself to.


I hope you are happy with your Skyprivate Experience. I am not sure if you are an active model on CMD. If you are listed on CMD and there is a problem with clients contacting you still via CMD, please email [email protected], and your account can be deactivated if you wish. Perhaps CMD is not the best site for you? If that is how you feel. This is how CMD works. I was simply offering the feedback I had received from Mark. I am on the forums to listen to 1. genuine concerns 2. gather feedback 3. answer questions, and 4. Help those looking for more information.

Do not feel pressured into staying on a site that does not work for you. As I stated CMD is not the right fit for every model. Nor is every model the right fit for CMD.

I do wish you the best of luck in whatever sites you are on. I am happy to answer whatever questions I can.

drearea
02-04-2017, 08:52 PM
I am on this forum to help other models and to be helped by other models.

I am not listed on CMD any longer. I do admit I can feel pressured to stay on sites that I am not happy with if they make me some money, so I do appreciate that advice.

The comment I was replying to was comparing CMD to SkyPrivate with incorrect information. I was correcting that information for your benefit and for the benefit of the models who view this forum.

I certainly have no intention of commenting on this thread when I have no information to share, but it just so happens that I saw information that needed to be corrected.

KLttyKat
02-05-2017, 11:30 AM
I hope there are no audible groans to this... BUT I LOVE CMD. I wouldn't trade CMD for anything.

I do like everyone else get timewasters and assholes--but that is life. I have gotten better at dealing with them and not letting them be timesucks. Sometimes simply removing them from contacts gets the to pony up and pay. With a firm (but not bitchy) message as I remove them ;)

I think I love it because it was my first INDIE site. Found CMD from a client. I was hustling so hard on MFC selling skype shows. Client told me try CMD. OMG--Signed up that day--approved 2 days later. Took CMD on like a TANK :)

That being said. IT WORKS FOR ME. I have said I feel so spoiled to Mark's professionalism, his respect for models, and his business drive. He and I have chatted about why IMHO CMD is such a good site. Holy Trifecta/Grail of camming:
1. DON'T FUCK WITH MY MONEY!--He is NEVER EVER LATE. Always Early in fact. I could HUG him for that. I don't live Hand to mouth but so GOOD to know he is honest and reliable. He honestly believe in CMD's reputation and his as an honest business man.

2. Traffic. Look at his Alexa ranking :p Yes I pay for featured, but I like the added exposure (advertising business expense ;) ;) )

3. AWESOME COMMISSION! Better than almost every other site out there. I LOVE IT.

I think that is the HOLY GRAIL of a camsite. But again it works for me, some sites work for me, some don't--I am slowly learning on my own site. BUt I was so done with IB I linked to CMD for payment. Just easier.

I do treat my SkypeID like a password. It isn't anywhere public. Not on twitter, any image, anywhere. NO WHERE. Guys have to click CHAT with me on my site, or CMD, or NF. So when i get those trolls "I found you on the INTERNET" fuck off and almost immediately blocked.

I will say again: I am spoiled to Mark (and Jesse's) professionalism. They both have such high respect for the models that chose to work with them.

I **KNOW** every girl does not have the ability to invest.. I did take all my MFC skype show earnings and invested them. I went from shit pink dildo and a cheap couple of toys (all I could afford and ALL I KNEW TO DO when i started out) to awesome stuff. MFC. DID the best I could with pics on my webcam.

Took those earnings. Got professional boudoir photos. I think that was the BEST INVESTMENT I could have made. Joined CMD as soon as I had the files on USB for my photos ;) Then I reinvested in my professional video. OMG. BEST INVESTMENT EVER. I have had so many compliments that my pics make me stand out. I can't take my own photo very well. I look deranged and possessed.

My point: I treat camming like a business. EVERYTHING about it. I learn as I go. I know I lose sales bc I won't take off site payments, but 1. I don't want the hassle, 2. Too risky 3. I need an income history to do things like buy a car, house etc.

CMD Leigh
02-05-2017, 12:05 PM
I hope all CMD models will add The SUPPORT SKYPE. The skype ID can be found on your dashboard or in the monthly newsletter. The goal is to transition support off of Mark's personal skype account to SUPPORT. We are both logged into the SUPPORT SKYPE account. Though I will be triaging and fielding support requests, passing along some things. He needs to focus on more tech and finance stuff as the site has grown SO HUGE.

If you ever have an issue you feel more comfortable discussing wit a female, please feel free to use my personal email. It is on your dashboard announcements and monthly newsletter. (also listed on our SKYPE SUPPORT). the support email goes to both Mark and myself.

I know I am preaching to the choir on this one:
As a woman who has cammed in the past, I will be strongly suggesting to models to look to forums for advice. FORUMS ARE A CAMGIRL'S BEST FRIEND. I will still answer your questions, no problem on support.

There is so MUCH awesome information to be found on forums. If you are looking for advice on HOW TO GROW your business, tips, tricks, etc... I can only tell you what worked for me. And that isn't going to help you. Might not help you at all. That is why I push forums. SO MUCH valuable information.

I am a big believer in the "give a cammodel a fish, she eats for a day. Teach her to fish (research and rely on forums) she will eat for a lifetime.

THE MOST successful Camgirls on CMD, from as far as I can tell, are those that look to the forums for advice. Also there are various Skype groups out there that are great for support, getting to know each other, and quick help.

Again, if you have questions, feel FREE to post here (I subscribed to notifications) or email me, or skype support me IF YOU ARE A CMD MODEL.

sexysusie
02-05-2017, 08:24 PM
OMG how many fucking beggars does this site send nowadays???!!! I added a new advert in all american today and got an absolute ton of requests, NO SHOWS. Dick heads. PLEASE take off the ability for them to see our skype names untl they have paid!!!

Magical_Hoohah
02-05-2017, 09:26 PM
^It's karma for listing yourself in the American category, LOL!

I'm totally kidding, of course. There are plenty of people listing themselves in categories where they don't belong by any stretch of the imagination. Also, I don't really get what the "All American" category is, anyway. How does one qualify for it? I assumed it was for really Midwestern, white bread types and/or the classic porn girl look. I didn't list myself there because a lot of people think there's something vaguely European about my look and accent.

sexysusie
02-05-2017, 09:52 PM
All American is wholesome. The US equivalent of English Rose. As they don't have an English category I shall use the closest thing :p I've had ads in all sorts of categories before and the same story xx