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Julie77
06-02-2017, 03:34 PM
after your opinions , girls, I changed my opinion too. thank you, I need to respect myself more, and probably I will not be so kind with my cleints....
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-02-2017, 03:41 PM
after your opinions , girls, I changed my opinion too. thank you, I need to respect myself more, and probably I will not be so kind with my cleints....
No you don't have to be mean to make money. My motto is sweet and assertive. Just don't let them walk all over you. It's good that you try to be accommodating but make sure you are being compensated in return. Decide what it is you do well and then expand on that. Build your brand around what makes you unique and then work from there. I'm happy to see that you've taken all this advice in stride, it shows that you have the potential to grow in your business.
seashell
06-02-2017, 07:47 PM
I've noticed far fewer timewasters coming from this site... it's nice. Anyone else experiencing this?
Or maybe I've just already blocked everyone on the Crooked Clients list lol
Julie77
06-03-2017, 01:30 AM
PhatGirlDynomite!!! - I am not going to be mean with my clients of course, I will just be less kind ( I mean I will not agree on any free shows and discounts) . Thanks for your advice , now I have a vision how to improve myself as a model.
Julie77
06-06-2017, 02:33 PM
Girls, that use First choice pay and Standard load option, and who are not from the US, - did you receive your money??
AuroraJade
06-07-2017, 10:36 AM
I did! I usually receive it on Monday, sometimes Tuesday.
DahliaSimone
06-07-2017, 04:27 PM
Fuck.....with CMD down....that's %50 of my income. Fuck fuck fuck.
Juliette25
06-07-2017, 04:33 PM
What the heck is going on? Anyone know why the merchant account was suspended?
KarinaGiselle
06-07-2017, 05:08 PM
I'm in the same boat, waiting for a response from them.
sweetandnaughty
06-07-2017, 05:32 PM
Here's an email CMD just sent out to models. I've put up a notice on my CMD ads for clients to contact me for alternative payment options. I'm going to use my indiebill for payment until this is fixed. ugh!
Payment Processing Halted on CMD
Hello. As you are probably already aware, CMD is unable to accept payments at this time. Our merchant account has been suspended and we are working with our current payment processor to try and rectify the issue. At this time we do not know when or if the merchant account will be reactivated. We are also contacting other companies to try and establish another account that allow us to resume accepting payments.
We recognize the inconvenience this is causing you and understand that you will have to find alternative means of payment for your clients until this issue is resolved. You can rest assured that you will be paid for all your sales up to this point. Payouts will be sent according to our normal payout schedule.
We will update you once we have more definitive information.
Sincerely,
The CamModelDirectory Team
Procrasturbator
06-07-2017, 05:48 PM
Thank god they okayed taking alternative payment methods temporarily, I wasn't looking forward to having to ask. That's not SO bad then... honestly, more than the lost income (which would be major, CMD is probably at least half of my income most days and almost all of it other days) I was dreading having to explain to 3842573047 guys why we couldn't play. But having to take them to LCMS for a while isn't the end of the world.
seashell
06-07-2017, 06:32 PM
Yeah, that's not too bad. I hope guys are OK with using a different payment processor for now. I panicked for a moment when I first saw the email. D:
RosieRedAss
06-07-2017, 06:53 PM
Ugh huge worry for me as well.... Thank you to @sweetandnaughty for mentioning indiebill, I signed up for that through Boleyn Models to get my daily pay.... but never used it.... phew!!! Thank god there's something as after using Arousr my Paypal got shut down!!
sweetandnaughty
06-07-2017, 07:35 PM
Ugh huge worry for me as well.... Thank you to @sweetandnaughty for mentioning indiebill, I signed up for that through Boleyn Models to get my daily pay.... but never used it.... phew!!! Thank god there's something as after using Arousr my Paypal got shut down!!
its good to use as a plan b. i set up payment pages for 5-60 min shows in 5 min blocks. guys can pick what they want. it is about the same cut as cmd.
chloemay
06-08-2017, 07:15 AM
What about the models who already bid for placement this week? It doesn't say anything about being reimbursed.
AuroraJade
06-08-2017, 07:27 AM
Wow. Woke up to this email today. Very shitty. Lots of girls relying on this site for a great part of their income. Imagine a site like SM or MFC saying all of a sudden ' hey we can't process payments any more. girls who invested in the site for a good placement? well fuck you. you got regulars that only want to pay using our site? well fuck you, fuck your money and fuck them'.
I edited my profile and made it say that custies can also use ManyVids, MFC or amazon for payment. Not going to miss out on $ because of this although I know it will be the case.
I understand the CMD peeps are super nice and I feel for them but this is business and it sucks. We all are so fast to burn down a site like SM or Onlyfans for things that are way less serious. Meanwhile cmd gets away with a lot more.
seashell
06-08-2017, 08:23 AM
^Please don't advertise Amazon on your CMD profile... it drives me insane when customers ask to use Amazon/Paypal/anything non-adult friendly on CMD. There are some great threads here in Camming Connection about why Amazon is not a good payment option. <3
I did okay last night despite the processor issue. Less traffic than usual, but the guys who wanted a show were OK with using IndieBill (all except for one customer who said he'd come back when it's resolved). I honestly looove IndieBill and am glad to have it as a backup... the payout is always 85% with no chargebacks, which is higher than CMD. The only thing is, they don't drive their own traffic like CMD.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-08-2017, 08:31 AM
Did Mark okay taking other payments for now? Someone up top mentioned that he had but I didn't see an email about that.
KatyBoleyn
06-08-2017, 08:38 AM
Did Mark okay taking other payments for now? Someone up top mentioned that he had but I didn't see an email about that.
It was kinda sorta implied in the middle of his email.
Payment Processing Halted on CMD
Hello. As you are probably already aware, CMD is unable to accept payments at this time. Our merchant account has been suspended and we are working with our current payment processor to try and rectify the issue. At this time we do not know when or if the merchant account will be reactivated. We are also contacting other companies to try and establish another account that allow us to resume accepting payments.
We recognize the inconvenience this is causing you and understand that you will have to find alternative means of payment for your clients until this issue is resolved. You can rest assured that you will be paid for all your sales up to this point. Payouts will be sent according to our normal payout schedule.
We will update you once we have more definitive information.
Sincerely,
The CamModelDirectory Team
For BoleynModels, it would be IndieBill or SkyPrivate, though the hold on SkyPrivate funds may be in effect for pre-paid shows depending on situation.
Girly_Girl
06-08-2017, 08:55 AM
Yeah, that's not too bad. I hope guys are OK with using a different payment processor for now. I panicked for a moment when I first saw the email. D:
^^^^^^ This........I have a few regulars with CMD and I'm afraid they won't want to pay thru indiebill:( Which would be better tho, CMD or Model centro? I'm on daily pay, so both of those would still work with daily pay but I can't remember what the pay out is for Model Centro? If the pay out is the same, which would the guys be more likely to trust?
I'm finishing the set up for Indiebill now tho. I started the sign up process but hadnt uploaded my license yet cause I was waiting for my new one to come in the mail ;(
KatyBoleyn
06-08-2017, 09:35 AM
^^^^^^ This........I have a few regulars with CMD and I'm afraid they won't want to pay thru indiebill:( Which would be better tho, CMD or Model centro? I'm on daily pay, so both of those would still work with daily pay but I can't remember what the pay out is for Model Centro? If the pay out is the same, which would the guys be more likely to trust?
I'm finishing the set up for Indiebill now tho. I started the sign up process but hadnt uploaded my license yet cause I was waiting for my new one to come in the mail ;(
For daily pay, ModelCentro is a little lower, effectively it comes to 63%. Indiebill is higher, coming to 80%, but some payments can be delayed for a full day because of the way your earnings are reported to us there. SkyPrivate is the same rate as CMD, but there can be issues with pre-paid shows (try to stick to the plugin there).
That being said, we are very much looking forward to CMD getting back to normal. In a given month, they make up the #2 or #3 spot for our models' earnings and a key egg in a lot of baskets.
laurielegs
06-08-2017, 10:18 AM
Thank god they okayed taking alternative payment methods temporarily, I wasn't looking forward to having to ask. That's not SO bad then... honestly, more than the lost income (which would be major, CMD is probably at least half of my income most days and almost all of it other days) I was dreading having to explain to 3842573047 guys why we couldn't play. But having to take them to LCMS for a while isn't the end of the world.
Oh wow, I'm glad you mentioned that! I didn't realize they were allowing us to take shows with payment elsewhere.
Honestly I wish they would just partner with SkyPrivate. I read that they offered and were turned down. Pay per minute on CMD would be a dream come true for me.
chloemay
06-08-2017, 10:27 AM
Oh wow, I'm glad you mentioned that! I didn't realize they were allowing us to take shows with payment elsewhere.
Honestly I wish they would just partner with SkyPrivate. I read that they offered and were turned down. Pay per minute on CMD would be a dream come true for me.
I disagree. Many guys finish before their paid session time is over.
laurielegs
06-08-2017, 10:28 AM
I disagree. Many guys finish before their paid session time is over.
They have prepaid options too.
Procrasturbator
06-08-2017, 10:58 AM
I'd hate pay per min on CMD personally. We already have that with Skyprivate, and they have PLENTY of traffic. Pay per min + cheap indy prices = lots and lots of very cheap guys. Prepaid is a massive chargeback risk on Skyprivate, if CMD did pay per min they'd likely set it up the same. I like prepaid shows, I like knowing how many minutes it'll be, I like being able to map out the show in my head. I like getting paid in chunks and being able to do what I want the rest of the time. I like indy camming, and not just for the higher cut. There's a whole different vibe to it that will be destroyed if they try to make it like the big box pay per min sites. I mean, with that and the on-site chat, why not add a cam on the site to see what we're up to and show them a preview right? We could call it... free chat! No thank you.
laurielegs
06-08-2017, 11:09 AM
I'd hate pay per min on CMD personally. We already have that with Skyprivate, and they have PLENTY of traffic. Pay per min + cheap indy prices = lots and lots of very cheap guys. Prepaid is a massive chargeback risk on Skyprivate, if CMD did pay per min they'd likely set it up the same. I like prepaid shows, I like knowing how many minutes it'll be, I like being able to map out the show in my head. I like getting paid in chunks and being able to do what I want the rest of the time. I like indy camming, and not just for the higher cut. There's a whole different vibe to it that will be destroyed if they try to make it like the big box pay per min sites. I mean, with that and the on-site chat, why not add a cam on the site to see what we're up to and show them a preview right? We could call it... free chat! No thank you.
Interesting points there. I haven't ever used the on site chat, not sure how it works.
It does make me wonder though - why haven't chargebacks been an issue on CMD before? It does piss me off that SkyPrivate has them and wondering how cmd avoided them for so long. (but of course maybe they didn't and maybe that's the reason they have no processor now).
It sucks though, was really getting going on CMD and now they have this issue. :(
DahliaSimone
06-08-2017, 12:59 PM
Well, so far, for me, the guys contacting me via CMD are not even wanting to join other sites when I try to redirect them....so...Im losing a huge chunk of my income. Exactly what I needed when I had to take off most of this week due to a toothache....funny, cause last week was the best week I have ever had camming, and this week is the worst...back to back. Fuck me.
sweetandnaughty
06-08-2017, 01:37 PM
I had an custie mention no payments option on my CMD ad so I just sent him my indiebill Skype shows. I honored my CMD rates and threw in an extra 5 mins (which is usually just chitchat) as an extra. They didn't mind it. Works as a plan b OK so far. Hope this gets fixed soon. Mark is a good guy.
anoncamgirl
06-08-2017, 04:15 PM
48230
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
IT'S BEEN AN ENTIRE DAY AND IT'S STILL NOT BACK UP, WHAT AM I GONNA DO
But in all seriousness, I wish CMD wasn't down. I'm really grateful I have LiveCamModelShows, NiteFlirt, bitcoin, and so on as a backup, but damn this really sucks. Who knows how long it will take Mark to fix this. He's a great guy, and doesn't deserve this. :( :( :( The timing is pretty bad, too. It's right before the summer slowdown season begins.
Thanks for the suggestions about IndieBill. I'm going to try that out. I'm also going to sign up for TTM soon because I was mostly indie and this is going to kill my sales.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-08-2017, 06:19 PM
48230
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
IT'S BEEN AN ENTIRE DAY AND IT'S STILL NOT BACK UP, WHAT AM I GONNA DO
But in all seriousness, I wish CMD wasn't down. I'm really grateful I have LiveCamModelShows, NiteFlirt, bitcoin, and so on as a backup, but damn this really sucks. Who knows how long it will take Mark to fix this. He's a great guy, and doesn't deserve this. :( :( :( The timing is pretty bad, too. It's right before the summer slowdown season begins.
Thanks for the suggestions about IndieBill. I'm going to try that out. I'm also going to sign up for TTM soon because I was mostly indie and this is going to kill my sales.
Do you get a lot of bitcoin customers?
laurielegs
06-08-2017, 06:39 PM
Who knows how long it will take Mark to fix this. He's a great guy, and doesn't deserve this. :( :( :( The timing is pretty bad, too. It's right before the summer slowdown season begins.
I see a new notice on the site - looks like he found a processor already and it will be 5 business days till they can use it.
anoncamgirl
06-08-2017, 07:12 PM
I see a new notice on the site - looks like he found a processor already and it will be 5 business days till they can use it.
YESSSSSSSSSSS <3 thank you girlie, I just saw this as well.
Girly_Girl
06-08-2017, 08:54 PM
Did y'all notice that there is a banner at the top of the site that says this :
" Please be aware that CMD is unable to accept any payments at this time. We are working with our payment processor to resolve the issue and will update this announcement once the issue has been resolved. We apologize for the problem and appreciate your patience."
That was before I ever logged into MY account, so that's what the guys will see!!! How are we suppose to ever redirect them if they see that first? THAT message will probably turn a lot of them away!
Procrasturbator
06-08-2017, 09:27 PM
For real... I literally just had a good regular (the kind where if he comes online, you know he'll be getting a show) tell me he'll wait til CMD payments are back. I did NOT expect that.
Procrasturbator
06-08-2017, 09:49 PM
Interesting points there. I haven't ever used the on site chat, not sure how it works.
It does make me wonder though - why haven't chargebacks been an issue on CMD before? It does piss me off that SkyPrivate has them and wondering how cmd avoided them for so long. (but of course maybe they didn't and maybe that's the reason they have no processor now).
It sucks though, was really getting going on CMD and now they have this issue. :(
The site chat isn't up yet as far as I can see, I'm just being very Chicken Little about the whole thing. That's a very good question... I assume that CMD has a better screening system, as pretty much everything about CMD is more professional. For instance I once saw a top girl on Skyprivate openly advertising bestiality shows... yikes. That would never fly on CMD. CMD's customer base and number of models is also small enough that they can maintain the Crooked Clients list and warn models off of scammers. That would never work for Skyprivate, there's just way too many people on both sides. Skyprivate is definitely more "anything goes" so it'd make sense that they have more chargebacks. Then again you're right, CMD's account very well could have been suspended due to chargebacks so who knows. As it stands I'm very happy with CMD's chargeback policy so I hope they don't change anything.
seashell
06-08-2017, 09:51 PM
Yeah... my traffic was OK yesterday, but today it significantly decreased :(
I'm advertising everywhere else. If anything, this is an interesting experiment for converting our own traffic... ugh lol
bigbootyjudy1
06-09-2017, 01:44 AM
FUCK!! CMD going down took a big hit on my income and my dumb ass didnt have a back up plan like indie bill.With sites like streamate being dead for the summer slump i cant afford to take a $500 plus lost a week cuz cmd is down.A lot of customers are loyal to cmd and they refuse to use other sites like niteflirt or skyprivate.It sucks to watch guaranteed money leave .PLease MARK fix it fast!!!! I was so loyal to cmd i forgot to register for a back up plan.I also wont register for indie sites that doesn't cover chargeback. I messaged indiebill on twitter .Hopefully they dont take forever to approve me.Not a good way to start off summer.I'm gonna wait patiently for cmd but my bills won't wait sadly.LOL.Poor Mark ! Im worrying about my measly $500+ poor Mark is probably losing hundreds of thousands a week !
Mistress Anika
06-11-2017, 03:56 PM
SuperPookie I dont think that girls who just watching a client must be paid, only I will work in such case, not other models, I also can help others for free. You can do what u want, for example watch a tv , and sometimes just to look at my client and laugh a bit, I dont think that its difficult .
I'm amazed as a model, you would think it would be acceptable to ask another model to spend her valuable time entertaining your client & not getting paid.
Jupiter77
06-11-2017, 04:32 PM
I'm amazed as a model, you would think it would be acceptable to ask another model to spend her valuable time entertaining your client & not getting paid.
Hahaha. Love it.
melanielive
06-12-2017, 03:38 AM
I did pretty well on CMD the other week after a long break....
This past week mother nature came AND the payment processor is down...
I get a bunch of guys asking for shows even when I m not logged in on CMD, I m losing good $$.....
Hope it gets fixed this week, I need the $$ dudeeee! lol
48230
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
IT'S BEEN AN ENTIRE DAY AND IT'S STILL NOT BACK UP, WHAT AM I GONNA DO
But in all seriousness, I wish CMD wasn't down. I'm really grateful I have LiveCamModelShows, NiteFlirt, bitcoin, and so on as a backup, but damn this really sucks. Who knows how long it will take Mark to fix this. He's a great guy, and doesn't deserve this. :( :( :( The timing is pretty bad, too. It's right before the summer slowdown season begins.
Thanks for the suggestions about IndieBill. I'm going to try that out. I'm also going to sign up for TTM soon because I was mostly indie and this is going to kill my sales.
What is this LiveCamModelShows? I looked on there and they had skype options but I'm already on the bottom of their page under more models while I'm on sm. Sm allows skype now?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-13-2017, 12:44 PM
What is this LiveCamModelShows? I looked on there and they had skype options but I'm already on the bottom of their page under more models while I'm on sm. Sm allows skype now?
LCMS is a Indy Camsite owned by Loveshooks. The streamate module is for affiliates. Here's her thread right here. https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?192874-My-Site-For-Independent-Camgirls
ep2002
06-13-2017, 01:54 PM
I offered to help him get a merchant account as I'm a merchant services agent & he never got back to me. I thought he had a solution, but then I see today there are delays.
I know the industry, you have to work with agents who are experienced & if you've just been rejected then your odds of getting one is harder.
I did e-mail him again, so let's hope he gets back to me.
I already lost one guy. :(
foxirox
06-13-2017, 02:10 PM
This seems to be the latest message from CMD.
June 13 2017 - The process of getting approved by another payment processor is taking longer than we had hoped. At this point it is highly unlikely that we will be able to accept payments before the end of next week. The reason we are in this position is because an allegation was made to Visa that one of the models on CMD engaged in illegal activity during a show. We do not know if this allegation is true or not as we have not been provided with enough information to investigate the claim. We are doing everything we can to address the matter as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, it is a time consuming process. We appreciate your patience.
Don't want to speculate too much, but that sounds to be like a crooked 'customer' went to visa for a chargeback and made an allegation against a model as the reason.
seashell
06-13-2017, 02:17 PM
:( Well... that sucks.
seashell
06-13-2017, 02:19 PM
Just curious, is a backup payment processor something that a cam site should be expected to have?
KatyBoleyn
06-13-2017, 02:28 PM
Just curious, is a backup payment processor something that a cam site should be expected to have?
If the complaint is made directly to the card company (ie VISA or MC) then it makes no difference how many gateways you have - you get yoinked from all of them. Then you need to find another high-risk processor willing to re-certify you. The certification process can take weeks sometimes, even if fast-tracked. We're pulling for them...this is effecting all of us.
ep2002
06-13-2017, 02:31 PM
I'm amazed as a model, you would think it would be acceptable to ask another model to spend her valuable time entertaining your client & not getting paid.
They ruin the industry for the rest of us who BELIEVE our TIME is what they are paying for, NOT sex acts!
<sigh>
foxirox
06-13-2017, 02:52 PM
:( Well... that sucks.
Indeed. We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed and stay positive. Don't want to be disloyal to CMD or Mark, but wonder if we could update our profiles to tell customers we have a 'sister' payment processor to take payments. Then we could direct customers to Indiebill. That way we are not directing customers to other camsites, and customers will still know that CMD is our main camsite of choice.
Not sure how Mark would feel about that, but sounds reasonable to me. Better than turning customers away, or them going elsewhere.
sweetandnaughty
06-13-2017, 04:12 PM
Indeed. We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed and stay positive. Don't want to be disloyal to CMD or Mark, but wonder if we could update our profiles to tell customers we have a 'sister' payment processor to take payments. Then we could direct customers to Indiebill. That way we are not directing customers to other camsites, and customers will still know that CMD is our main camsite of choice.
Not sure how Mark would feel about that, but sounds reasonable to me. Better than turning customers away, or them going elsewhere.
I've done this on all my listing ads on CMD. I say the site isn't taking payments and until it does to contact me for alternative payment options. I use my indiebill and honor the CMD rates. Works so far.